So pc gamers are too busy wearing 17th century clothing and sailing across the ocean on their ships?
Why didn't anyone tell me about this.
...I know right.
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Most multiplats in the US are either same price as consoles or $10 cheaper.
Oh boy. Gonna pull out the ol' ebay card again? And will you be restricting "shady" cd key sites to give yourself an "advantage."
I'll be here to help you achieve at least 5 pages.
Most multiplats in the US are either same price as consoles or $10 cheaper.
Oh boy. Gonna pull out the ol' ebay card again? And will you be restricting "shady" cd key sites to give yourself an "advantage."
I'll be here to help you achieve at least 5 pages.
I'm speaking of msrp obviously. The thread starter made no mention of sale prices.
Every upcoming pc multiplat with the exception of Alien and Shadows of Mordor is same price as console.
Most multiplats in the US are either same price as consoles or $10 cheaper.
Oh boy. Gonna pull out the ol' ebay card again? And will you be restricting "shady" cd key sites to give yourself an "advantage."
I'll be here to help you achieve at least 5 pages.
Oh yeah
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sniper-elite-3-steam-keys-bought-in-good-faith-revoked-as-result-of-scam/1100-6420803/
Most multiplats in the US are either same price as consoles or $10 cheaper.
Oh boy. Gonna pull out the ol' ebay card again? And will you be restricting "shady" cd key sites to give yourself an "advantage."
I'll be here to help you achieve at least 5 pages.
Oh yeah
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sniper-elite-3-steam-keys-bought-in-good-faith-revoked-as-result-of-scam/1100-6420803/
“The resellers are NOT the problem,” Rebellion said on Facebook. “Those stores affected are NOT shady…"
Most multiplats in the US are either same price as consoles or $10 cheaper.
Oh boy. Gonna pull out the ol' ebay card again? And will you be restricting "shady" cd key sites to give yourself an "advantage."
I'll be here to help you achieve at least 5 pages.
Oh yeah
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sniper-elite-3-steam-keys-bought-in-good-faith-revoked-as-result-of-scam/1100-6420803/
“The resellers are NOT the problem,” Rebellion said on Facebook. “Those stores affected are NOT shady…"
But they bought keys from shady suppliers. I would be hesitant to buy from a reseller that purchases keys from shady suppliers.
it is because the pc ecosystem does not have to support used games
But mostly it's because developers have to pay Sony, Nintendo and MS in order to develop a game for their console (= buy a dev kit) and when they sell games they have to pay a certain amount of money per sold game (= royaltee fees)
On PC you can just start developing and release a game without having to pay anything. That is also why MS dropped PC gaming and moved to console gaming. They wanted to be paid when people release something on their platform.
yeah its multi factorial. i only wanted to write a few words.
it is because the pc ecosystem does not have to support used games
But mostly it's because developers have to pay Sony, Nintendo and MS in order to develop a game for their console (= buy a dev kit) and when they sell games they have to pay a certain amount of money per sold game (= royaltee fees)
On PC you can just start developing and release a game without having to pay anything. That is also why MS dropped PC gaming and moved to console gaming. They wanted to be paid when people release something on their platform.
yeah its multi factorial. i only wanted to write a few words.
Why are you keeping your posts so short ?! >:(
it is because the pc ecosystem does not have to support used games
But mostly it's because developers have to pay Sony, Nintendo and MS in order to develop a game for their console (= buy a dev kit) and when they sell games they have to pay a certain amount of money per sold game (= royaltee fees)
On PC you can just start developing and release a game without having to pay anything. That is also why MS dropped PC gaming and moved to console gaming. They wanted to be paid when people release something on their platform.
yeah its multi factorial. i only wanted to write a few words.
Why are you keeping your posts so short ?! >:(
a few reasons. quicker for others to read, quicker to write. i feel there's a greater chance of it being read.
with longer posts, sometimes people only quote and respond to the bit they're interested in (despite it usually being part of a cohesive argument). and also in this place i feel it's a good idea to try and write as few words as possible, there's a few folk here who will try to waste everybody's time by baiting them into writing novels. and I think that's poppycock (or pappe kak, soft dung).
a few reasons. quicker for others to read, quicker to write. i feel there's a greater chance of it being read.
with longer posts, sometimes people only quote and respond to the bit they're interested in (despite it usually being part of a cohesive argument). and also in this place i feel it's a good idea to try and write as few words as possible, there's a few folk here who will try to waste everybody's time by baiting them into writing novels. and I think that's poppycock (or pappe kak, soft dung).
Man ! That post is way too long ! I'm not going to respond to that
poppycock
teeheehee ^^
Platform holder's royalties, development costs, marketing costs, pakaging, fuel, etc.
All of those are lower with PC, and there are no royalty fees
This. Which also leads to more competition between sellers, both between DD services and between those and physical retailers.
If it wasn't for consoles PC would ONLY have F2P crap, MMO's, and RTS games.
1. FPS, WRPG, CRPG, SIM, Adventure, TBS, MOBA. You missed a few genres.
2. Whats wrong with AAA-AA (Amazing-Great) scoring f2p, mmo, and rts games?
3. I'm glad 99% of multiplat titles are better on PC, yet cheaper. The ultimate gaming system :)
The real question should by why are most multiplats the same msrp on pc as console? PC has no licensing fees and is mostly digital yet most multiplats are $60 msrp at launch on pc.
You left a neat bait. Sadly, it's not impressive and I can't absorb too much BS in one thread so, i'll leave it here for someone else to take.
If it wasn't for consoles PC would ONLY have F2P crap, MMO's, and RTS games.
1. FPS, WRPG, CRPG, SIM, Adventure, TBS, MOBA. You missed a few genres.
2. Whats wrong with AAA-AA (Amazing-Great) scoring f2p, mmo, and rts games?
3. I'm glad 99% of multiplat titles are better on PC, yet cheaper. The ultimate gaming system :)
fps? name some quality fps exclusives from the last 9 years?
The real question should by why are most multiplats the same msrp on pc as console? PC has no licensing fees and is mostly digital yet most multiplats are $60 msrp at launch on pc.
You left a neat bait. Sadly, it's not impressive and I can't absorb too much BS in one thread so, i'll leave it here for someone else to take.
What bs? What did i say that wasn't true?
@ps4hasnogames: what a suprise, looked at the name, knew the crappy reason before entering the thread.
Your bad. 1/10.
If it wasn't for consoles PC would ONLY have F2P crap, MMO's, and RTS games.
1. FPS, WRPG, CRPG, SIM, Adventure, TBS, MOBA. You missed a few genres.
2. Whats wrong with AAA-AA (Amazing-Great) scoring f2p, mmo, and rts games?
3. I'm glad 99% of multiplat titles are better on PC, yet cheaper. The ultimate gaming system :)
fps? name some quality fps exclusives from the last 9 years?
So are we just forgetting Counter Strike?
If it wasn't for consoles PC would ONLY have F2P crap, MMO's, and RTS games.
1. FPS, WRPG, CRPG, SIM, Adventure, TBS, MOBA. You missed a few genres.
2. Whats wrong with AAA-AA (Amazing-Great) scoring f2p, mmo, and rts games?
3. I'm glad 99% of multiplat titles are better on PC, yet cheaper. The ultimate gaming system :)
fps? name some quality fps exclusives from the last 9 years?
He didn't say exclusive. He said wouldn't be on PC at all if not for consoles, learn to read before you bait because now you're about to get stomped:
These were on PC regardless of console (As in consoles factually had no involvement in their development):
I don't think 1 console has that many fps made for only that system before it was ported outwards as an afterthought.
If it wasn't for consoles PC would ONLY have F2P crap, MMO's, and RTS games.
1. FPS, WRPG, CRPG, SIM, Adventure, TBS, MOBA. You missed a few genres.
2. Whats wrong with AAA-AA (Amazing-Great) scoring f2p, mmo, and rts games?
3. I'm glad 99% of multiplat titles are better on PC, yet cheaper. The ultimate gaming system :)
fps? name some quality fps exclusives from the last 9 years?
He didn't say exclusive. He said wouldn't be on PC at all if not for consoles, learn to read before you bait because now you're about to get stomped:
These were on PC regardless of console:
Gotta add DayZ and Rust in there as well.
If it wasn't for consoles PC would ONLY have F2P crap, MMO's, and RTS games.
1. FPS, WRPG, CRPG, SIM, Adventure, TBS, MOBA. You missed a few genres.
2. Whats wrong with AAA-AA (Amazing-Great) scoring f2p, mmo, and rts games?
3. I'm glad 99% of multiplat titles are better on PC, yet cheaper. The ultimate gaming system :)
fps? name some quality fps exclusives from the last 9 years?
stalker
rise of the triad
fear
painkiller
operation flashpoint
SiN Episodes: Emergence
shadow warrior
arma 3
SWAT 4
Tribes/Tribes Ascend
Planetside 2
Day of Defeat
left 4 dead (dual plat)
titanfall (dual plat)
etc etc
And it goes without saying that all multi-plat FPS are way better on PC.
If it wasn't for consoles PC would ONLY have F2P crap, MMO's, and RTS games.
1. FPS, WRPG, CRPG, SIM, Adventure, TBS, MOBA. You missed a few genres.
2. Whats wrong with AAA-AA (Amazing-Great) scoring f2p, mmo, and rts games?
3. I'm glad 99% of multiplat titles are better on PC, yet cheaper. The ultimate gaming system :)
fps? name some quality fps exclusives from the last 9 years?
So are we just forgetting Counter Strike?
CS Go isn't exclusive.
If it wasn't for consolesPC would ONLY have F2P crap, MMO's, and RTS games.
1. FPS, WRPG, CRPG, SIM, Adventure, TBS, MOBA. You missed a few genres.
2. Whats wrong with AAA-AA (Amazing-Great) scoring f2p, mmo, and rts games?
3. I'm glad 99% of multiplat titles are better on PC, yet cheaper. The ultimate gaming system :)
fps? name some quality fps exclusives from the last 9 years?
So are we just forgetting Counter Strike?
CS Go isn't exclusive.
The quoted post said nothing about exclusives.
CS:GO would have been made on PC irregardless of consoles. Please read next time cranler.
because PC gamers dont bend over and take whatever price publishers throw at them up the butt like console babies.
Actually they take the most bending over out of anyone or else publishers wouldn't be selling a digital copy of AAA games at $60 with a few $49 games every so often.
fps? name some quality fps exclusives from the last 9 years?
So are we just forgetting Counter Strike?
CS Go isn't exclusive.
The quoted post said nothing about exclusives.
CS:GO would have been made on PC irregardless of consoles. Please read next time cranler.
That'll be the day.
Anyways isn't cs:go on consoles completely gimped?
fps? name some quality fps exclusives from the last 9 years?
So are we just forgetting Counter Strike?
CS Go isn't exclusive.
The quoted post said nothing about exclusives.
CS:GO would have been made on PC irregardless of consoles. Please read next time cranler.
That'll be the day.
Anyways isn't cs:go on consoles completely gimped?
CS:GO and TF2 on consoles are complete jokes.
They were made for PC, the consoles ports were to milk as much as cash as they can while supporting the real version on PC.
fps? name some quality fps exclusives from the last 9 years?
stalker
rise of the triad
fear
painkiller
operation flashpoint
SiN Episodes: Emergence
shadow warrior
arma 3
SWAT 4
Tribes/Tribes Ascend
Planetside 2
Day of Defeat
left 4 dead (dual plat)
titanfall (dual plat)
etc etc
And it goes without saying that all multi-plat FPS are way better on PC.
wow you managed to find a few titles that barely meet the 9 year criteria, a bunch of non exclusive games, and arma 3. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. so yeah basically without consoles pc is just f2p and indy crap
edit - wait some of those titles dont even fit the 9 year criteria. lol try harder fail hermit
fps? name some quality fps exclusives from the last 9 years?
stalker
rise of the triad
fear
painkiller
operation flashpoint
SiN Episodes: Emergence
shadow warrior
arma 3
SWAT 4
Tribes/Tribes Ascend
Planetside 2
Day of Defeat
left 4 dead (dual plat)
titanfall (dual plat)
etc etc
And it goes without saying that all multi-plat FPS are way better on PC.
wow you managed to find a few titles that barely meet the 9 year criteria, a bunch of non exclusive games, and arma 3. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. so yeah basically without consoles pc is just f2p and indy crap
You really have issues.
If it wasn't for consolesPC would ONLY have F2P crap, MMO's, and RTS games.
1. FPS, WRPG, CRPG, SIM, Adventure, TBS, MOBA. You missed a few genres.
2. Whats wrong with AAA-AA (Amazing-Great) scoring f2p, mmo, and rts games?
3. I'm glad 99% of multiplat titles are better on PC, yet cheaper. The ultimate gaming system :)
fps? name some quality fps exclusives from the last 9 years?
So are we just forgetting Counter Strike?
CS Go isn't exclusive.
The quoted post said nothing about exclusives.
CS:GO would have been made on PC irregardless of consoles. Please read next time cranler.
Bldg responded to someone asking about fps exclusives with Counterstrike.
Your irregrardless comment can go the other way too. Just about every upcoming multiplat would exist even if pc gaming were dead.
@ps4hasnogames said:
If it wasn't for consoles PC would ONLY have F2P crap, MMO's, and RTS games.
Why do they always do this moving goalpost bullshit. He never said anything about exclusives or 9/10 criteria..
You really want to go offtopic too? You really want me to fucking crush consoles? Say the word trolls.
Most multiplats in the US are either same price as consoles or $10 cheaper.
Oh boy. Gonna pull out the ol' ebay card again? And will you be restricting "shady" cd key sites to give yourself an "advantage."
I'll be here to help you achieve at least 5 pages.
Oh yeah
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sniper-elite-3-steam-keys-bought-in-good-faith-revoked-as-result-of-scam/1100-6420803/
“The resellers are NOT the problem,” Rebellion said on Facebook. “Those stores affected are NOT shady…"
But they bought keys from shady suppliers. I would be hesitant to buy from a reseller that purchases keys from shady suppliers.
Exactly! Most of those keys are ones that are stolen from the back of cases in transit.
fps? name some quality fps exclusives from the last 9 years?
So are we just forgetting Counter Strike?
CS Go isn't exclusive.
The quoted post said nothing about exclusives.
CS:GO would have been made on PC irregardless of consoles. Please read next time cranler.
That'll be the day.
Anyways isn't cs:go on consoles completely gimped?
Why would it be gimped? CS GO doesn't do anything technically advanced.
So are we just forgetting Counter Strike?
CS Go isn't exclusive.
The quoted post said nothing about exclusives.
CS:GO would have been made on PC irregardless of consoles. Please read next time cranler.
Bldg responded to someone asking about fps exclusives with Counterstrike.
Considering the topic was about multiplatforms and we SHOULD be discussing about the main topic. My reply makes sense.
If it wasn't for consolesPC would ONLY have F2P crap, MMO's, and RTS games.
1. FPS, WRPG, CRPG, SIM, Adventure, TBS, MOBA. You missed a few genres.
2. Whats wrong with AAA-AA (Amazing-Great) scoring f2p, mmo, and rts games?
3. I'm glad 99% of multiplat titles are better on PC, yet cheaper. The ultimate gaming system :)
fps? name some quality fps exclusives from the last 9 years?
So are we just forgetting Counter Strike?
CS Go isn't exclusive.
The quoted post said nothing about exclusives.
CS:GO would have been made on PC irregardless of consoles. Please read next time cranler.
Bldg responded to someone asking about fps exclusives with Counterstrike.
Cranler, look at who that person quoted first. Me, he was trying to prove me wrong by using exclusives even though we weren't talking about exclusives.
Please stop trolling for once. @ps4hasnogames stated if it wasn't for consoles PC wouldn't have any FPS: CS:GO would still be on PC if not for consoles though.
The quoted post said nothing about exclusives.
CS:GO would have been made on PC irregardless of consoles. Please read next time cranler.
That'll be the day.
Anyways isn't cs:go on consoles completely gimped?
Why would it be gimped? CS GO doesn't do anything technically advanced.
For a supposed manticore you are severely clueless.
fps? name some quality fps exclusives from the last 9 years?
So are we just forgetting Counter Strike?
CS Go isn't exclusive.
The quoted post said nothing about exclusives.
CS:GO would have been made on PC irregardless of consoles. Please read next time cranler.
That'll be the day.
Anyways isn't cs:go on consoles completely gimped?
Why would it be gimped? CS GO doesn't do anything technically advanced.
Are you kidding? TF2 and CSGO lost all support...
because PC gamers dont bend over and take whatever price publishers throw at them up the butt like console babies.
Actually they take the most bending over out of anyone or else publishers wouldn't be selling a digital copy of AAA games at $60 with a few $49 games every so often.
not to mention the games are typically barely even functional lmao.
because PC gamers dont bend over and take whatever price publishers throw at them up the butt like console babies.
Actually they take the most bending over out of anyone or else publishers wouldn't be selling a digital copy of AAA games at $60 with a few $49 games every so often.
not to mention the games are typically barely even functional lmao.
You mean games that are nearly all better on PC according to digital foundry? lmao.
Gaming: Better on PC :)
If it wasn't for consolesPC would ONLY have F2P crap, MMO's, and RTS games.
1. FPS, WRPG, CRPG, SIM, Adventure, TBS, MOBA. You missed a few genres.
2. Whats wrong with AAA-AA (Amazing-Great) scoring f2p, mmo, and rts games?
3. I'm glad 99% of multiplat titles are better on PC, yet cheaper. The ultimate gaming system :)
fps? name some quality fps exclusives from the last 9 years?
So are we just forgetting Counter Strike?
CS Go isn't exclusive.
The quoted post said nothing about exclusives.
CS:GO would have been made on PC irregardless of consoles. Please read next time cranler.
Bldg responded to someone asking about fps exclusives with Counterstrike.
Cranler, look at who that person quoted first. Me, he was trying to prove me wrong by using exclusives even though we weren't talking about exclusives.
Please stop trolling for once.
M3 said name me some quality fps exclusives and bldrg replies with CS. Stop being so biased and hateful that you fight me even when you know I'm right.
If it wasn't for consolesPC would ONLY have F2P crap, MMO's, and RTS games.
1. FPS, WRPG, CRPG, SIM, Adventure, TBS, MOBA. You missed a few genres.
2. Whats wrong with AAA-AA (Amazing-Great) scoring f2p, mmo, and rts games?
3. I'm glad 99% of multiplat titles are better on PC, yet cheaper. The ultimate gaming system :)
fps? name some quality fps exclusives from the last 9 years?
So are we just forgetting Counter Strike?
CS Go isn't exclusive.
The quoted post said nothing about exclusives.
CS:GO would have been made on PC irregardless of consoles. Please read next time cranler.
Bldg responded to someone asking about fps exclusives with Counterstrike.
Cranler, look at who that person quoted first. Me, he was trying to prove me wrong by using exclusives even though we weren't talking about exclusives.
Please stop trolling for once.
M3 said name me some quality fps exclusives and bldrg replies with CS. Stop being so biased and hateful that you fight me even when you know I'm right.
Loook at who M3 was quoting.......CSGO actually is a correct response to @ps4hasnogames: aka the original quote.
CSGO TF2 Battlefield, Crysis, arma, etc. are all correct answers to the quote chain's topic.
M3 said name me some quality fps exclusives and bldrg replies with CS. Stop being so biased and hateful that you fight me even when you know I'm right.
Reading isn't your strong suit. I am very aware of that, but if you could for once try to actually read. You'll notice the first quote in your horrendous pyramid says "If it wasn't for consolesPC would ONLY have F2P crap, MMO's, and RTS games." Changing the goal posts one at a time cranler.
They have to change and bend the goal post so much for PC only to barely lose against 3 consoles combined.
Christ what a system.
The quoted post said nothing about exclusives.
CS:GO would have been made on PC irregardless of consoles. Please read next time cranler.
That'll be the day.
Anyways isn't cs:go on consoles completely gimped?
Why would it be gimped? CS GO doesn't do anything technically advanced.
For a supposed manticore you are severely clueless.
So you claim I'm clueless but don't point out why.
fps? name some quality fps exclusives from the last 9 years?
So are we just forgetting Counter Strike?
CS Go isn't exclusive.
The quoted post said nothing about exclusives.
CS:GO would have been made on PC irregardless of consoles. Please read next time cranler.
That'll be the day.
Anyways isn't cs:go on consoles completely gimped?
Why would it be gimped? CS GO doesn't do anything technically advanced.
Are you kidding? TF2 and CSGO lost all support...
Gimped and unsupported are two different things. BF 4 is gimped on 360/ps3. It has smaller maps and less players. CS Go isnt gimped and the lack of support is because no one on console played them from the beginning.
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