Wall St. Journal: 'Playing the FOOL' How Sony helped pay for 360 development.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] Yea, but I don't know if I'd call it "shady". this was the contract the 3 companies worked out. I'm sure Sony is smart enough to know that their agreement would mean competitors being able to buy parts of the technology from IBM. I just think they never expected in their wildest dreams that this generation could have played out the way it did.SpruceCaboose

Hopefully they recognize that its the games and not the systems that are important to most gamers, and they can make the PS4 as amazing, affordable, and as developer friendly as they can.

amen too that I hope Sony gets it right next gen if they don't I probally would still buy a ps4 just for the heck of it.

Wwhat you said is wrong I would say more but my html is not well formed

Afro_Samurai1

bottom line: if you think I'm wrong, than don't waste either of our time with conjecture. go find the links. Summarize. **** the excuses. and again, if you prefer only nice things be discussed, the Playstation 3 forum is for you. It's really cool over there. No controversy at all.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Afro_Samurai1"]

number 1 that is too much work for me to being doing

number 2 I am no kid

number 3 the only person making a big deal out of it is you[posting this up knowing people are going to argue over it I think this called flamebait but that is sw]

Afro_Samurai1

1.) then don't presume to conclude where my allegiences lie. the reality is you won't do the work because you already know they don't exist right now. Nobody is saying anything bad about the Wii because it's making stupid money and selling at a legenary pace. Their DS is a cash cow. Nobody is writing articles critical of MS right now because they're selling more than they did last year at this time and their exclusives are cleaning up. Not true for Sony right now. You know it. Whether you accept the reality so that you can discuss the future from a proper perspective or not is something I have no control over. But your lack of acceptance of current circumstances won't change the circumstances. Bury your head in the sand all you like. I'll continue thinking about what Sony can do better to improve their products and offerings.

2.) Then act like it. Accept that your opinion isn't the only opinion and that not everyone who doesn't walk the party line hates the party.

3.) I post it here becuase this is where we talk about industry news in the context of how it affects its userbase and gaming in general. If you want to hear only pleasantries, go to the Playstation 2/3 forum. The link won't be hard for you to find. Hermits don't complain when the quarterly "PC gaming is dying" article is written. Lemmings don't ask for the RROD articles to stop flowing. When the spiget that is causing these articles to stop flowing is closed, the articles will subside. As has already been said, don't blame the messenger. And for a change...try posting something related to the topic. Because not doing so is what we call "trolling" here. I know you're new. Thought I'd inform you.

Wwhat you said is wrong I would say more but my html is not well formed

Also, while I am ranting at Sony....I would love some more software for my PSP, maybe? Please? I asked Santa, and he just laughed at me....SpruceCaboose

Also, while I am ranting at Sony....I would love some more software for my PSP, maybe? Please? I asked Santa, and he just laughed at me....SpruceCaboose

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Also, while I am ranting at Sony....I would love some more software for my PSP, maybe? Please? I asked Santa, and he just laughed at me....no_handlebars

[QUOTE="Afro_Samurai1"]

Wwhat you said is wrong I would say more but my html is not well formed

Dreams-Visions

bottom line: if you think I'm wrong, than don't waste either of our time with conjecture. go find the links. Summarize. **** the excuses. and again, if you prefer only nice things be discussed, the Playstation 3 forum is for you. It's really cool over there. No controversy at all.

I think your very wrong I even wrote 2 paragrahs with links but every time I try post it says html not well formed error

bottomline I got a headache and don't feel like discussing this any further good day

[QUOTE="no_handlebars"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Also, while I am ranting at Sony....I would love some more software for my PSP, maybe? Please? I asked Santa, and he just laughed at me....SpruceCaboose

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Afro_Samurai1"]

Wwhat you said is wrong I would say more but my html is not well formed

Afro_Samurai1

bottom line: if you think I'm wrong, than don't waste either of our time with conjecture. go find the links. Summarize. **** the excuses. and again, if you prefer only nice things be discussed, the Playstation 3 forum is for you. It's really cool over there. No controversy at all.

I think your very wrong I even wrote 2 paragrahs with links but every time I try post it says html not well formed error

bottomline I got a headache and don't feel like discussing this any further good day

[QUOTE="Afro_Samurai1"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]yea, this site is glitchy to an extreme and it's very frustrating.

bottom line: if you think I'm wrong, than don't waste either of our time with conjecture. go find the links. Summarize. **** the excuses. and again, if you prefer only nice things be discussed, the Playstation 3 forum is for you. It's really cool over there. No controversy at all.

Dreams-Visions

I think your very wrong I even wrote 2 paragrahs with links but every time I try post it says html not well formed error

bottomline I got a headache and don't feel like discussing this any further good day

I said good day.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Afro_Samurai1"]

sure he would (sarcasm)

Afro_Samurai1

number 1 that is too much work for me to being doing

number 2 I am no kid

number 3 the only person making a big deal out of it is you[posting this up knowing people are going to argue over it I think this called flamebait but that is sw]

Please don't whine about the news. Would you rather Dreamsvisions post it or Cole Protocol?

I mean seriously if you want to get mad then get mad at Sony. Oh wait you don't work for them. So don't let it agitate you at all.

[QUOTE="Afro_Samurai1"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] lol @ attacking the messanger. not only would I, but I have and do on a regular basis. you're new here, so I'll give you a pass. I tell ya what: point out all the negative press articles that Microsoft's Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii/DS have gotten in the last 30 days. Don't worry; I'll wait. When you find them, connect me to the links. Find the days they were posted and see if I was posting that day. The reality is there probably are none. You kids want to make an issue where there is none. You'll see that more the longer you stay here. Right now all the negative news is being directed towards Sony. If I hadn't posted this, someone else would have within the hour. Don't be mad at me that people are writing articles critical of Sony. Blame Sony for putting themselves in the position to be critiqued constantly.Blackbond

number 1 that is too much work for me to being doing

number 2 I am no kid

number 3 the only person making a big deal out of it is you[posting this up knowing people are going to argue over it I think this called flamebait but that is sw]

Please don't whine about the news. Would you rather Dreamsvisions post it or Cole Protocol?

I mean seriously if you want to get mad then get mad at Sony. Oh wait you don't work for them. So don't let it agitate you at all.

I'am not mad or frustrated at this thread,I find it amusing that dreamsvsion has been the the one posting the Sony threads the past couple of days.

I'am not mad or frustrated at this thread,I find it amusing that dreamsvsion has been the the one posting the Sony threads the past couple of days.

Afro_Samurai1

I also find it amusing that CNC has been the one posting the sales thread for the past year.....

You obviously don't find it amusing because you're reaction isn't one of amusement, "Good day" correct?

[QUOTE="Afro_Samurai1"]

I'am not mad or frustrated at this thread,I find it amusing that dreamsvsion has been the the one posting the Sony threads the past couple of days.

Blackbond

I also find it amusing that CNC has been the one posting the sales thread for the past year.....

You obviously don't find it amusing because you're reaction isn't one of amusement, "Good day" correct?

don't let my posting fool you I know how sw goes

good day could be my catchphrase

you'd be surprised to know which he thought was the best console)

Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Afro_Samurai1"]

I'am not mad or frustrated at this thread,I find it amusing that dreamsvsion has been the the one posting the Sony threads the past couple of days.

Afro_Samurai1

I also find it amusing that CNC has been the one posting the sales thread for the past year.....

You obviously don't find it amusing because you're reaction isn't one of amusement, "Good day" correct?

don't let my posting fool you I know how sw goes

good day could be my catchphrase

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

you'd be surprised to know which he thought was the best console)

Jandurin

[QUOTE="Afro_Samurai1"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

I also find it amusing that CNC has been the one posting the sales thread for the past year.....

You obviously don't find it amusing because you're reaction isn't one of amusement, "Good day" correct?

Dreams-Visions

don't let my posting fool you I know how sw goes

good day could be my catchphrase

I, read your your thread twice and your first post I find it messup that Sony helped microsoft but that is my 2 cents on the matter.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

you'd be surprised to know which he thought was the best console)

Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Afro_Samurai1"]

don't let my posting fool you I know how sw goes

good day could be my catchphrase

Afro_Samurai1

I, read your your thread twice and your first post I find it messup that Sony helped microsoft but that is my 2 cents on the matter.

Then ignore the news.

[QUOTE="Afro_Samurai1"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] No. "I like to post on topic" should be your catch phrase. Just know that I asked. More than once.Blackbond

I, read your your thread twice and your first post I find it messup that Sony helped microsoft but that is my 2 cents on the matter.

Then ignore the news.

Now why would I do that.

Sony is like that kid on the playground who everyone uses because he's rich. It's kind of funny Sony unintentionally helped Microsoft. CleanPlayer

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Afro_Samurai1"]

I, read your your thread twice and your first post I find it messup that Sony helped microsoft but that is my 2 cents on the matter.

Afro_Samurai1

Then ignore the news.

Now why would I do that.

Because you said in I quote, "I shall not tolerate such rubbish."

You must be like me with that split personality thing.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] Yea, but I don't know if I'd call it "shady". this was the contract the 3 companies worked out. I'm sure Sony is smart enough to know that their agreement would mean competitors being able to buy parts of the technology from IBM. I just think they never expected in their wildest dreams that this generation could have played out the way it did.MarloStanfield

"Shady" on whose behalf? MS or IBM?

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Afro_Samurai1"]

don't let my posting fool you I know how sw goes

good day could be my catchphrase

Afro_Samurai1

I, read your your thread twice and your first post I find it messup that Sony helped microsoft but that is my 2 cents on the matter.

You know, for someone who said "good day" a few posts back, you seem to be posting an awful lot.

If you don't like what was said in this thread, you don't have to, but don't attack the bearer of bad news simply because you don't like to hear it.

LOL, so Sony helped make the Xbox 360, EPIC

yes, but this was in 2005! before any console launched.Dreams-Visions

How did Sony fall for this? Im gonna call the authorities for this one, where is Jack thompson?

Seriously, I just want to know what is the real reason behind all these articles? media sabotage FTL, I mean NPD bad numbers were released over 15 days ago, the media is blowing this news out of proportion.

Three things :

1- The media is becoming aware of the PS3 fans and they know how to tick them off to gain traffic which is pathetic and getting old.

2- it was/is the end of the year and there are no big news to report so they relate to point number 1 which is very sad.

3- Just don't believe everything you read in the news, 80% is not true and if it is true they describe it the worst possible way just to stay on top of teh competition, thats all.

Anybody who takes it seriously and believes 100% should go outside and breath a little bit.

It's just bad news after bad news for Sony isn't it?

Sony has been on top for so long this happens to companies that been number one for a long time.

How did Sony fall for this? Im gonna call the authorities for this one, where is Jack thompson?

Seriously, I just want to know what is the real reason behind all these articles? media sabotage FTL, I mean NPD bad numbers were released over 15 days ago, the media is blowing this news out of proportion.

Three things :

1- The media is becoming aware of the PS3 fans and they know how to tick them off to gain traffic which is pathetic and getting old.

2- it was/is the end of the year and there are no big news to report so they relate to point number 1 which is very sad.

3- Just don't believe everything you read in the news, 80% is not true and if it is true they describe it the worst possible way just to stay on top of teh competition, thats all.

Anybody who takes it seriously and believes 100% should go outside and breath a little bit.

lol cows cant catch a break

a little payback from the PS2 days, just returnign the "love" you gave the lems and sheep.

How did Sony fall for this? Im gonna call the authorities for this one, where is Jack thompson?

Seriously, I just want to know what is the real reason behind all these articles? media sabotage FTL, I mean NPD bad numbers were released over 15 days ago, the media is blowing this news out of proportion.

Three things :

1- The media is becoming aware of the PS3 fans and they know how to tick them off to gain traffic which is pathetic and getting old.

2- it was/is the end of the year and there are no big news to report so they relate to point number 1 which is very sad.

3- Just don't believe everything you read in the news, 80% is not true and if it is true they describe it the worst possible way just to stay on top of teh competition, thats all.

Anybody who takes it seriously and believes 100% should go outside and breath a little bit.

HAZE-Unit

Yes, blame the media for all of your problems. Let me guess you are a Sarah Palin fan aswell?

It's like a guy driving down his street on the way home stopping to help another guy fix his flat tire, when the guy who got a flat just came from the other guys house after he ****** his wife. bez2083

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

How did Sony fall for this? Im gonna call the authorities for this one, where is Jack thompson?

Seriously, I just want to know what is the real reason behind all these articles? media sabotage FTL, I mean NPD bad numbers were released over 15 days ago, the media is blowing this news out of proportion.

Three things :

1- The media is becoming aware of the PS3 fans and they know how to tick them off to gain traffic which is pathetic and getting old.

2- it was/is the end of the year and there are no big news to report so they relate to point number 1 which is very sad.

3- Just don't believe everything you read in the news, 80% is not true and if it is true they describe it the worst possible way just to stay on top of teh competition, thats all.

Anybody who takes it seriously and believes 100% should go outside and breath a little bit.

blue_hazy_basic

"bu teh media is teh biased against teh PeeEzz3 :cry:"
"sony is doing just fine :cry:"