Valve announced a while back intentions to add video streaming services to steam. It would probably be wise to launch it alongside the steam machine. A media center feature would be much welcomed.
Its time for valve to put up or shut up, everything they do takes too long. I'm more interested in UE4, phanta rhei, and luminous engine.
Valve just sent out 300 Steam Machines to commoners like you and I, and then did the same thing again for all the developers attending Steam Dev Days. What the actual fack do you mean?
I read a lot of tweets yesterday and this one item in the article is not correct
- Valve reportedly has been showing off their own VR solution that is even superior to Oculus Rift.
They said they do not have plans right now to created their own but that might change
Even if you are right, it makes sense for Valve to do so. Literally every device besides Windows PCs and Xbox consoles use OpenGL, and Microsoft does annoying operating system lock in with DirectX, preventing people from using the latest version without forking over another $100. If Valve does push for OpenGL over DirectX, we're going to see DirectX basically eliminated. In addition, with all the support that Valve has been throwing behind SteamOS and Linux as a whole, why wouldn't the company take this logical step?
This comes as no surprise since their attitude with steam and with SteamOS has been focused on open source.
And to add to that Gaben's disappointment in Windows 8. I hope MS shapes up with next windows release
Gabe didn't just dislike Windows 8, however. He disliked the direction Microsoft was going witth Windows 8, fearing that future Windows operating systems would be even more of a walled garden.
I read a lot of tweets yesterday and this one item in the article is not correct
- Valve reportedly has been showing off their own VR solution that is even superior to Oculus Rift.
They said they do not have plans right now to created their own but that might change
Even if you are right, it makes sense for Valve to do so. Literally every device besides Windows PCs and Xbox consoles use OpenGL, and Microsoft does annoying operating system lock in with DirectX, preventing people from using the latest version without forking over another $100. If Valve does push for OpenGL over DirectX, we're going to see DirectX basically eliminated. In addition, with all the support that Valve has been throwing behind SteamOS and Linux as a whole, why wouldn't the company take this logical step?
misunderstood me. I am totally on board with OpenGL. I was saying what that article says about the VR is incorrect.They are not making their own VR headset at this time.
Oh, my apologies. It did read kind of odd to me, but I thought the first line was referring to the topic at hand, and third was discussing the second line, a quote. The virtual reality information seems to be correct, though.
It would be very gutsy to make HL3 a linux exclsuive but if anything can get people to shift over it would be that. HL2 was the spark for steam irself. before that it was just a tool to update counter strike.
This comes as no surprise since their attitude with steam and with SteamOS has been focused on open source.
And to add to that Gaben's disappointment in Windows 8. I hope MS shapes up with next windows release
Gabe didn't just dislike Windows 8, however. He disliked the direction Microsoft was going witth Windows 8, fearing that future Windows operating systems would be even more of a walled garden.
No, its more that Gabe found the Microsoft store to be a threat / competition. Not a walled garden. Windows is the same as its been.
This comes as no surprise since their attitude with steam and with SteamOS has been focused on open source.
And to add to that Gaben's disappointment in Windows 8. I hope MS shapes up with next windows release
Gabe didn't just dislike Windows 8, however. He disliked the direction Microsoft was going witth Windows 8, fearing that future Windows operating systems would be even more of a walled garden.
No, its more that Gabe found the Microsoft store to be a threat / competition. Not a walled garden. Windows is the same as its been.
Funny thing is at least on windows, people will still have to use aspects of DirectX, like XInput or the window api, because OpenGL gives you paint, but no paint brush(inputs) and no canvas. And don't tell me things like glut, because how do you think gluts canvas is implemented.
@SEANMCAD: yet they made HL2 steam exclusive. they could have made it like HL1...install from disc as a standalone application. it caused uproar when HL2 launched yet it was the catalyst for the steam we see today.
Gabe Newells comments just mean that valve themselves are not throwing money at 3rd parties to make exclusive games and the fact steam OS is an open platform has nothing to do with whether valve decide to make HL3 a linux exclusive or not. all that means, in this context (because open platform can mean a few things), is that developers are free to make games for it without paying some sort of licence fee (compared to consoles where you do need to pay a licence fee). developers can still choose to make a linux exclusive game.
in fairness i do think its highly unlikely HL3 or future valve games will be linux exclusive. but it would be the most effect way to get people to shift over just like HL2 was the most effective way to get more people to use steam in the first place.
@SEANMCAD: yet they made HL2 steam exclusive. they could have made it like HL1...install from disc as a standalone application. it caused uproar when HL2 launched yet it was the catalyst for the steam we see today.
A game requiring you to install some application is not the same as a game that wants you to completely change your operating system.
@SEANMCAD: yet they made HL2 steam exclusive. they could have made it like HL1...install from disc as a standalone application. it caused uproar when HL2 launched yet it was the catalyst for the steam we see today.
A game requiring you to install some application is not the same as a game that wants you to completely change your operating system.
You can always dual boot, and SteamOS as well as other Linux distributions are all free in every sense of the word. There are plenty of advantages, plus a few disadvantages such as there being no Photoshop yet.
Valve is really letting microsoft sit on it and spin.
I like it,
Really? I doubt this changes anything. if it runs well on openGL, it will run well on DX ... they would be foolish not to considering a few of their platforms require it.
Valve is really letting microsoft sit on it and spin.
I like it,
Really? I doubt this changes anything. if it runs well on openGL, it will run well on DX ... they would be foolish not to considering a few of their platforms require it.
Maybe not at first, but it's clear where their commitment in all this lies. Open source software, valves the only one in this industry pushing the tech envelope in a meaningful way anymore, ridiculous steam-boxes aside.
Unless MS adapts they will be left behind, which is fine with me. DX has been stagnant for a while now with it's minuscule improvements.
currently there is only one game I am watching that would depend on windows and that is Star Citizen
The developers of Star Citizen have expressed keen interest in bringing the game to Linux, plus Crytek was hiring people who could port the CryEngine to Linux a few months back. Things are looking good.
Valve is really letting microsoft sit on it and spin.
I like it,
Really? I doubt this changes anything. if it runs well on openGL, it will run well on DX ... they would be foolish not to considering a few of their platforms require it.
@SEANMCAD: yet they made HL2 steam exclusive. they could have made it like HL1...install from disc as a standalone application. it caused uproar when HL2 launched yet it was the catalyst for the steam we see today.
Gabe Newells comments just mean that valve themselves are not throwing money at 3rd parties to make exclusive games and the fact steam OS is an open platform has nothing to do with whether valve decide to make HL3 a linux exclusive or not. all that means, in this context (because open platform can mean a few things), is that developers are free to make games for it without paying some sort of licence fee (compared to consoles where you do need to pay a licence fee). developers can still choose to make a linux exclusive game.
in fairness i do think its highly unlikely HL3 or future valve games will be linux exclusive. but it would be the most effect way to get people to shift over just like HL2 was the most effective way to get more people to use steam in the first place.
What matters is that all future Valve games will likely run via OpenGL instead of DirectX. Linux and Mac OS use OpenGL exclusively, and Windows can run OpenGL just fine too. With Valve putting so much support behind OpenGL, it will be fairly easy to bring future games to Linux if they run on Windows using OpenGL anyway. Publishers and developers would be daft not to go fore those additional 2% of the market, and that percentage is likely to increase, not decrease.
You can always dual boot, and SteamOS as well as other Linux distributions are all free in every sense of the word.
Yeah right. I get pissed off when EA asks me to install origin and that takes me only 10 min of my time. You can tell the average joe to install steam, is pretty easy. Have fun telling him to dual boot.
I have no idea nor do I care what Valve is trying to do here. I like Valve and their games but that doesn't mean I'll follow them blindly. They're just one part of PC gaming, not everything. I don't plan on changing my OS, plenty of reasons why I use what I use one of which is games but not only. I prefer Valve not involving me in this whatever OS war is trying to start, not interested in it.
You can always dual boot, and SteamOS as well as other Linux distributions are all free in every sense of the word.
Yeah right. I get pissed off when EA asks me to install origin and that takes me only 10 min of my time. You can tell the average joe to install steam, is pretty easy. Have fun telling him to dual boot.
I have no idea nor do I care what Valve is trying to do here. I like Valve and their games but that doesn't mean I'll follow them blindly. They're just one part of PC gaming, not everything. I don't plan on changing my OS, plenty of reasons why I use what I use one of which is games but not only. I prefer Valve not involving me in this whatever OS war is trying to start, not interested in it.
That's fine, nobody is forcing you. I am completely for what Valve is doing here for a plethora of reasons and do hope it succeeds. :)
microsoft has done nothing but poison every facet of the digital industry,
so for them to be forced out,
I will dance that day
agreed.
For the longest time I supported Microsoft and that day ended on the Xbox One reveal. I started to see the fabric of problems I hadnt been willing to admit previously.
Are you a console gamer? You must be considering how you opened your eyes once you yourself were affected as a gamer! Here's more crap on Microsoft.
microsoft has done nothing but poison every facet of the digital industry,
so for them to be forced out,
I will dance that day
agreed.
For the longest time I supported Microsoft and that day ended on the Xbox One reveal. I started to see the fabric of problems I hadnt been willing to admit previously.
Are you a console gamer? You must be considering how you opened your eyes once you yourself were affected as a gamer! Here's more crap on Microsoft.
Great news for PS4 if they make a console port of it for games that use it in the future. It'll be reaping many performance benefits.
I was more hoping since the PS4 uses OpenGL, a BSD based operating system, and has hardware similar to that of a PC, we would see more games on Linux thanks to all that. No sign of that yet at all, though.
Great news for PS4 if they make a console port of it for games that use it in the future. It'll be reaping many performance benefits.
I was more hoping since the PS4 uses OpenGL, a BSD based operating system, and has hardware similar to that of a PC, we would see more games on Linux thanks to all that. No sign of that yet at all, though.
You mean Sony games specifically or games in general?
Great news for PS4 if they make a console port of it for games that use it in the future. It'll be reaping many performance benefits.
I was more hoping since the PS4 uses OpenGL, a BSD based operating system, and has hardware similar to that of a PC, we would see more games on Linux thanks to all that. No sign of that yet at all, though.
You mean Sony games specifically or games in general?
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