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#1  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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https://twitter.com/AndreaPessino/status/571137039753564161

Ok, i had to post this just because of how sad Andrea Pessino is getting over the scores of his game. It was like this before embargo, but yesterday, Pessino linked this "clearly well made" review of The Order 1886 that he calls the "final" one.

Watch the whole thing, really.

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#3 freedomfreak
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Yeah, as if he's gonna refer to the Gamespot review, for example.

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#4  Edited By Heil68
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Still going to play it and enjoy it.

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#5  Edited By pelvist
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@Heil68 said:

Still going to play it and enjoy it.

i thought it was a day1 for you how come you havent played it yet then?

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#6 Planeforger
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@pelvist: Heil has been too busy playing all of those other great PS4 and Vita exclusives released over the last few months. Clearly.

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lol dat damage control.

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#8  Edited By tormentos
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@deadline-zero0 said:

https://twitter.com/AndreaPessino/status/571137039753564161

Ok, i had to post this just because of how sad Andrea Pessino is getting over the scores of his game. It was like this before embargo, but yesterday, Pessino linked this "clearly well made" review of The Order 1886 that he calls the "final" one.

Watch the whole thing, really.

Is hard not to agree with him reviewers were expecting Skyrim out of this game when since day 1 it has been tag as a cinematic experience the game even ditched the whole 1080p crap in order to have a 2.40.1 ratio like movies.

Is sad because the game is not a 5 or even lower i saw score of 1 and 2 which is completely stupid and moronic.

As you can see he did a great job on that review to the point were he even avoided comparing it to games like Gears or games that are on xbox,he when and compare it with TLOU and Uncharted,then he bring Flower nothing but PS games to show how reviewers were skew.

I don't think this game is a 9 or 10 but a 5 it certainly wasn't and the game isn't even broken like DC or other games.

What he say is true the developer of this game didn't sell you a GTA,a COD or Skyrim type of game they have been pretty vocal about what it was,a cinematic experience don't like those what the fu** are you doing playing the game it should be as simple as that and should apply to reviewers as well,unless that reviewer can review a game without letting his personal feeling for a genre or certain type of game in..

Was Ryse sold as a cinematic experience.? It was sold as a hack and slash with pretty graphics it even has online and still scored low.

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#9 Snugenz
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@tormentos said:

@deadline-zero0 said:

https://twitter.com/AndreaPessino/status/571137039753564161

Ok, i had to post this just because of how sad Andrea Pessino is getting over the scores of his game. It was like this before embargo, but yesterday, Pessino linked this "clearly well made" review of The Order 1886 that he calls the "final" one.

Watch the whole thing, really.

Is hard not to agree with him reviewers were expecting Skyrim out of this game when since day 1 it has been tag as a cinematic experience the game even ditched the whole 1080p crap in order to have a 2.40.1 ratio like movies.

Is sad because the game is not a 5 or even lower i saw score of 1 and 2 which is completely stupid and moronic.

As you can see he did a great job on that review to the point were he even avoided comparing it to games like Gears or games that are on xbox,he when and compare it with TLOU and Uncharted,then he bring Flower nothing but PS games to show how reviewers were skew.

I don't think this game is a 9 or 10 but a 5 it certainly wasn't and the game isn't even broken like DC or other games.

What he say is true the developer of this game didn't sell you a GTA,a COD or Skyrim type of game they have been pretty vocal about what it was,a cinematic experience don't like those what the fu** are you doing playing the game it should be as simple as that and should apply to reviewers as well,unless that reviewer can review a game without letting his personal feeling for a genre or certain type of game in..

Was Ryse sold as a cinematic experience.? It was sold as a hack and slash with pretty graphics it even has online and still scored low.

YOU would agree with that shill review.

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The salt is real.

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#11  Edited By uninspiredcup
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This man is a misunderstood genius ahead of his time.

Everyone is wrong. So called "people".

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#12 Roler42
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Game got the scores it deserved, dev has to deal with it and make sure they make a game next time instead of a stupid movie

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#13 R4gn4r0k
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A review about review scores ? What the hell ?! :/

Clearly they should've made a review embargo where reviews above a certain score could be published first, while other reviews had to wait if they care that much about what their bloody 5 hour rollercoaster scored.

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#14 GrenadeLauncher
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So when do lemmings stop whining about The Order? Before or after Bloodborne is released?

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#15 SpinoRaptor24
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Haha I always thought this kind of DC was exclusive to fanboys, but nope.

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#16 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Great reviewer. Explains himself very well and gives a criteria for the review.

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#17 slaves
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I actually agree with this guy for the most part. I'd say the game is a high 7 almost an 8. I don't agree with the whole people should be fired for their opinion but whatever.

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#18 tormentos
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@Snugenz said:

YOU would agree with that shill review.

Sadly what he say apply to any game including PC or xbox,rating a game low because it broken like DC is fine,but the order isn't and wasn't sold to people as anything other than what it is.

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#19  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@tormentos said:

@Snugenz said:

YOU would agree with that shill review.

Sadly what he say apply to any game including PC or xbox,rating a game low because it broken like DC is fine,but the order isn't and wasn't sold to people as anything other than what it is.

A pile of shit? Which is what it is? And subsequently, how how was viewed?

Homeworld is a story driven cinematic game; why are they tearing that apart like the order?

Reason: Because it isn't shit

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Dude needs to get over it

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#21  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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@tormentos said:

@Snugenz said:

YOU would agree with that shill review.

Sadly what he say apply to any game including PC or xbox,rating a game low because it broken like DC is fine,but the order isn't and wasn't sold to people as anything other than what it is.

hahaha, you really don't know what you're talking about when it's something besides sales and tech face offs.

Driveclub was functioning fine for reviewers. The connectivity issues only happened for normal players.

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Still going to play it and enjoy it.

I know Heil. That's why i like you. :)

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#23 freedomfreak
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The Order being functional doesn't exclude it from criticism. That's a shitty argument.

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#24 Heil68
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@pelvist said:

@Heil68 said:

Still going to play it and enjoy it.

i thought it was a day1 for you how come you havent played it yet then?

I thought I was going to, then i found out the length of the game and that's not worth $60 to me. I have a huge backlog to..

DA Inquisition

Dying light

Both of those for PS4 which I haven't played

Splinter Cell Black List

Batman Origins

Both for PS3 i haven't played

Still need to finish GTA V and mop up FC4 for PS4

I'm not hurting for games to play :P

I want Helldivers next week too...

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#25  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@tormentos said:

@Snugenz said:

YOU would agree with that shill review.

Sadly what he say apply to any game including PC or xbox,rating a game low because it broken like DC is fine,but the order isn't and wasn't sold to people as anything other than what it is.

But the reviews said it had no gameplay and was dull.

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The guy from this review is a complete DICK. So according to him, anyone who accepts reviews is an "imbecile"... Fine then if it turns out to be shit game, this prick can pay me back the £40 - £50 I wasted on it.

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#26 FoxbatAlpha
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The dev is clearly upset. He obviously felt the hard work put in warrants a better pool of reviews. Whether the game sucks or not, he still has sales to look forward to.

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#27  Edited By SpinoRaptor24
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@freedomfreak said:

The Order being functional doesn't exclude it from criticism. That's a shitty argument.

It is. So is the whole "high production value" argument. It doesn't matter how shiny or realistic your graphics are if the gameplay itself is bland.

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#28  Edited By Snugenz
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@sts106mat said:

@tormentos said:

@Snugenz said:

YOU would agree with that shill review.

Sadly what he say apply to any game including PC or xbox,rating a game low because it broken like DC is fine,but the order isn't and wasn't sold to people as anything other than what it is.

QFT

See below.

@freedomfreak said:

The Order being functional doesn't exclude it from criticism. That's a shitty argument.

Exactly and it deserves every criticism thrown at it's gameplay or lack thereof, something this shill review completely avoids doing.

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#29 tormentos
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A pile of shit? Which is what it is? And subsequently, how how was viewed?

Homeworld is a story driven cinematic game; why are they tearing that apart like the order?

Reason: Because it isn't shit

To a sad butthurt hermit like your self probably.

Any reviewer who slammed this game for been cinematic is a god damn moron.

The game wasn't sold as an fast paced action shooter or anything of that sort.

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hahaha, you really don't know what you're talking about when it's something besides sales and tech face offs.

Driveclub was functioning fine for reviewers. The connectivity issues only happened for normal players.

I know Heil. That's why i like you. :)

Oh really lets see what excuse you use on this one....

http://www.gamespot.com/the-master-chief-collection/

Again rating a game low because it is broken is ok,but you don't complain about a game been to cinematic when it was sold to you as a damn cinematic experience beyond other done before,even down right to the reaking camera filters and screen ratio.

@Snugenz said:

See below.

@freedomfreak said:

The Order being functional doesn't exclude it from criticism. That's a shitty argument.

Exactly and it deserves every criticism thrown at it's gameplay or lack thereof, something this shill review completely avoids doing.

Considering you are a blind biased fanboy your opinion means 100 times less than him,at least he wasn't even fanboy enough to bring Gears into the video and show the many ass things both games have in common which fanboy loved gears for years for.

Including movies.

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#30 darkangel115
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@Heil68 said:

Still going to play it and enjoy it.

I just beat it yesterday, a huge disappointment and waste of 60 bucks

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#31 DEadliNE-Zero0
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@tormentos: It got a 6. What's the issue?

The positive reviews for Halo MCC where from sites that only played the press CD single player campaigns. Those work.

However, because press didn't have access to servers for multiplayer games, like with DC, some sites like GS had to wait for the official release and play the mp along with everyone else. That's why it got a 6 here and Polygon even had to chnage the score. Except IGN, i believe. I guess they didn't run into a problem.

If DC had been judged based on broken multiplayer, aswell has the low car selection, european only brands, no tuning, no car/tire damage, generic carrer tour and stupid penalty system, it would have gotten even lower scores.

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#32 Snugenz
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@tormentos said:

@Snugenz said:

See below.

@freedomfreak said:

The Order being functional doesn't exclude it from criticism. That's a shitty argument.

Exactly and it deserves every criticism thrown at it's gameplay or lack thereof, something this shill review completely avoids doing.

Considering you are a blind biased fanboy your opinion means 100 times less than him,at least he wasn't even fanboy enough to bring Gears into the video and show the many ass things both games have in common which fanboy loved gears for years for.

Including movies.

How exactly am i a blind biased fanboy?, do i post like you, no, do i make shilly video reviews like the one in the OP, no.

Just typical el tomatoes, when you can't fight the argument you resort to ad hominem attacks. Grow up.

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@tormentos said:

@Snugenz said:

YOU would agree with that shill review.

Sadly what he say apply to any game including PC or xbox,rating a game low because it broken like DC is fine,but the order isn't and wasn't sold to people as anything other than what it is.

It was sold as a mediocre game with little value. Has gaming really gotten that bad that games deserve high scores just for working on release?

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#34  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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If games should be rated for what they're trying to be, than every game would be perfect.

Crytek:"Our goal with Ryse: Son of Rome is to make a game with amazing graphical technology, to push the Cryengine even further and deliver a gimpse into what real time graphics can look like in the future. Gameplay and story..............well............it's a game, but it's not something we're focused on. Aslong has you can swing a sword, block attacks and there's cutscenes, it's perfect."

Gamespot: 9. Best graphics i've ever seen.

IGN:Crytek delivers on their vision. Superb fidelity. 10

Eurogamer:The love the studio has put into the graphics is outstanding. Simply amazing. Essential.

Kotaku:YES. Ryse set a new bar for real time graphics. I enjoyed my time watching every blade of grass. Best grass i've seen

Ryse. Son of Rome- 200+ GOTY Awards

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#35 Snugenz
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@deadline-zero0 said:

If games should be rated for what they're trying to be, than every game would be perfect.

Crytek:"Our goal with Ryse: Son of Rome is to make a game with amazing graphical technology, to push the Cryengine even further and deliver a gimpse into what real time graphics can look like in the future. Gameplay and story..............well............it's a game, but it's not something we're focused on. Aslong has you can swing a sword, block attacks and there's cutscenes, it's perfect."

Gamespot: 9. Best graphics i've ever seen.

IGN:Crytek delivers on their vision. Superb fidelity. 10

Eurogamer:The love the studio has put into the graphics is outstanding. Simply amazing. Essential.

Kotaku:YES. Ryse set a new bar for real time graphics. I enjoyed my time watching every blade of grass. Best grass i've seen

Ryse. Son of Rome- 200+ GOTY Awards

Well put.

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@deadline-zero0 said:

If games should be rated for what they're trying to be, than every game would be perfect.

Crytek:"Our goal with Ryse: Son of Rome is to make a game with amazing graphical technology, to push the Cryengine even further and deliver a gimpse into what real time graphics can look like in the future. Gameplay and story..............well............it's a game, but it's not something we're focused on. Aslong has you can swing a sword, block attacks and there's cutscenes, it's perfect."

Gamespot: 9. Best graphics i've ever seen.

IGN:Crytek delivers on their vision. Superb fidelity. 10

Eurogamer:The love the studio has put into the graphics is outstanding. Simply amazing. Essential.

Kotaku:YES. Ryse set a new bar for real time graphics. I enjoyed my time watching every blade of grass. Best grass i've seen

Ryse. Son of Rome- 200+ GOTY Awards

Well done

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#37 silversix_
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i agree with him but the price of this game isn't right. if your game is this linear, offers zero replayablity AND is this short, why the f8ck was this priced at $69.99 here in Cananda? Game deserves the low scores because it offered nothing for the price you've payed.

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#38 chikenfriedrice
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@Heil68 said:

Still going to play it and enjoy it.

I am playing it and it looks nice but the game play is bad unfortunately. Not enjoyable.

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@deadline-zero0:

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#40  Edited By Heil68
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@darkangel115 said:

@Heil68 said:

Still going to play it and enjoy it.

I just beat it yesterday, a huge disappointment and waste of 60 bucks

I'll rent it then :D

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#41 dommeus
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"...8/10, a solid, respectable score..."

This is the problem. 8/10 Shouldn't be considered a solid score. it should be considered a great score. 80% is a first class honours at university. I don't think you would call any student who achieves a first a 'solid, respectable' student. They're a fucking great student.

Anyway the whole review is lols and the way he calls out other reviewers as "dude bro gamers" makes him sound like a petulant child.

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#42  Edited By Snugenz
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@dommeus said:

"...8/10, a solid, respectable score..."

This is the problem. 8/10 Shouldn't be considered a solid score. it should be considered a great score. 80% is a first class honours at university. I don't think you would call any student who achieves a first a 'solid, respectable' student. They're a fucking great student.

Anyway the whole review is lols and the way he calls out other reviewers as "dude bro gamers" makes him sound like a petulant child.

What's a little funnier about him calling out "dudebro gamers" is that his channel is filled with CoD videos... lol

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#43 darkangel115
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@Heil68 said:

@darkangel115 said:

@Heil68 said:

Still going to play it and enjoy it.

I just beat it yesterday, a huge disappointment and waste of 60 bucks

I'll rent it then :D

yeah if you can redbox it for a few bucks, you might enjoy it. Its really a short and sometimes polished turd. huge disappointment. It felt like the game is half done and sony was like nah we delayed it enough, just release it as is.

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#45 Zlurodirom
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So from what I gathered from the CTO is that the product they spent years working on, in his eyes, was a "solid respectable game" and an 8/10, he has no confidence it is a better game than that!? Considering RAD's history, that's kind of sad how they are "settling" for an 80%, when none of their previous games have gone below 84 on Metacritic.

That review was pretty bad too.

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Well... An 8/10 to me is like... Great... Whereas a 6/10 is a good game. So if you're going by reviews it's like... The Order is still a good game, just with flaws. So worth picking up probably down the line.

But man... That video drove me nuts. "Let me put my arbitrary scoring calculator into effect, even though it's not what other reviewers are using, just to prove how wrong they are cause theyre a bunch of flupping idiots!" Seriously.

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#47  Edited By Zethrickk382
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I agree with the review and enjoyed the game immensely. It's hip to hate and has been before the review when it comes to this game.

The combat is very satisfying and the story is solid and well paced.

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#48 Wild_man_22
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I'm glad the game creator found a review that gives an accurate representation of how they feel about the game.

But really? To the people saying reviewers can't critique a game for "what being what was sold to them" is pretty laughable. The idea that you have to review a product as a single entity without comparing it to other games within its genre or media is absurd.

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#49 heretrix
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Unfortunately for the developer, you don't get to pick and choose which reviews are relevant or not.

Get over it.

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#50 SolidGame_basic  Online
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I guess nothing going on in the PC world if TC is resorting to Playstation posts.