i like all the playstations, but besides the $599 no dualshock 3 launch, and bunch of dissapointments like haze and lair, the worst mistake they ever did was not give the PS3 backward compatability. If they did, then I think Sony still mightve been in 1st place. just bad marketing, I could've made saved sony millions if I was a marketing manager
i like all the playstations, but besides the $599 no dualshock 3 launch, and bunch of dissapointments like haze and lair, the worst mistake they ever did was not give the PS3 backward compatability. If they did, then I think Sony still mightve been in 1st place. just bad marketing, I could've made saved sony millions if I was a marketing managerlikeabrick
BC, BC, BC. If Sony did give you BC, then you and many others would still complain about the price. BC or $300 price tag. Choose. You can't have both.
doesnt bother me too much...happy with whats on offer this gen even tho i do sometimes like to have a quick shot of old games they tend to be games from the PS1 and the megadrive tho.
And PS3 has PS1 backwards compatability btw :P which imo had more games i loved.
It's funny that these forums contain both the notion that 2007 games are really old hat and that B/C is probably the single most important feature of any console ever.
So as stated above my post:
BC BC BC BC blablaarglebargle. You would'nt get past the graphics anyway.
Edit: I suppose it's worthy of mention that the ps3 did in fact have it. Turned out people would rather have cheaper, B/C'less treys.
i disagree. sony hasnt made a mistake all gen this gen, well actually they had one mistake and thats not having enough ps3s for everyone its still in high demand. if you want to play ps2 games buy a ps2. hd remakes of ps2 games with trophies is better anyways. i hope they do the same thing for the ps4 and not have ps3 bc so they can remake it and make it better and ever with more trophies
Because they still have the PS2 out. It's 99 dollars. Think about it in Sonys eyes. We put bc on the PS3 and jack up the price.... or keep the price the same? Or we can just have the PS2 still out on the market for $99. Hmmm tough decision. "Lets put it into the PS3!"
i disagree. sony hasnt made a mistake all gen this gen, well actually they had one mistake and thats not having enough ps3s for everyone its still in high demand. if you want to play ps2 games buy a ps2. hd remakes of ps2 games with trophies is better anyways. i hope they do the same thing for the ps4 and not have ps3 bc so they can remake it and make it better and ever with more trophies
i disagree. sony hasnt made a mistake all gen this gen, well actually they had one mistake and thats not having enough ps3s for everyone its still in high demand. if you want to play ps2 games buy a ps2. hd remakes of ps2 games with trophies is better anyways. i hope they do the same thing for the ps4 and not have ps3 bc so they can remake it and make it better and ever with more trophies
i disagree. sony hasnt made a mistake all gen this gen, well actually they had one mistake and thats not having enough ps3s for everyone its still in high demand. if you want to play ps2 games buy a ps2. hd remakes of ps2 games with trophies is better anyways. i hope they do the same thing for the ps4 and not have ps3 bc so they can remake it and make it better and ever with more trophies
_SWAG_
You don't think launching a console at $599 with barely any games is a mistake? Probably one of the main reasons it's in last place in sales right now.
the fact that u couldn't play ure ps2 games on the ps3, when 250 million people owned a ps2 is rediculous.
im speaking from a marketing standpoint here, whoever was in charge should be fired.
sony knew their launch was bad, and if i remmeber correctly, only the 60gb ps3 was BC
likeabrick
the PS2 is still a money spinner it makes sense to pull the plug till its totally dead then reinstate it when they have made all the cash they can out it.PS2 still sells in a lot of territories like S.America and even here its a pretty solid choice for a lot of folks including parents with younger kids that dont have the money to fork out for a wii you can find a ps2 for bout £40-50 new here basically the same as a current gen game.
i got the 80gb launch...i went and bought some classics PSonei wanted when i got back from the army(FF7,Legends of Dragoon,MGS,and the Resident Evils) then i realized most of the best playstation games are in the Playstation Store so i didnt even need to get the actual disc and have to have BC....
The PS3 had BC, and for quite a while. It was removed to drive down the costs of the console.
Where have you been?
lundy86_4
That's bs. It was dropped to make more money another way. With BC in the PS3 kind of makes the PS2 obsolete. They will put BC back into the PS3 after they drop the PS2. It only makes the most sense.
i have to admit though it is nice seeing sony making ps2 remakes for ps3, gow and i hear shadow of the collossus.
but yeah they stripped down the ps3 quite a bit after launch... minus two usb ports, no more compact flash and other card readers, see ya BC....sometimes i wish i still had my 60gb launcher
BC is no big deal with how cheap ps2's are nowdays. the only problem song had was the insane price tags of ps3 at start but now they are getting cheaper to make sony has lowered it to a good price tag
The PS3 had BC, and for quite a while. It was removed to drive down the costs of the console.
Where have you been?
LOXO7
That's bs. It was dropped to make more money another way. With BC in the PS3 kind of makes the PS2 obsolete. They will put BC back into the PS3 after they drop the PS2. It only makes the most sense.
Actually, the B/C (the well functioning one) had a physical chip inside it for it. As such, it's reasonable to assume they dumped it as a way to help drive down manufacturing costs.
That's bs. It was dropped to make more money another way. With BC in the PS3 kind of makes the PS2 obsolete. They will put BC back into the PS3 after they drop the PS2. It only makes the most sense.LOXO7
That's certainly a valid hypothesis, but do you have anything to actually back up your points before you shout "bs?"
Actually, the B/C (the well functioning one) had a physical chip inside it for it. As such, it's reasonable to assume they dumped it as a way to help drive down manufacturing costs.
Filthybastrd
My point exactly. Having a physical chip involved means another step in the manufacturing cycle and more parts to buy.
BC is no big deal with how cheap ps2's are nowdays. the only problem song had was the insane price tags of ps3 at start but now they are getting cheaper to make sony has lowered it to a good price tagelbert_b_23
sony dropped the ball with $599 and no dualshock 3 at launch, that is what didn't sell me back in 2006.
i was sold when the slim $299 came out with a free Dualshock 3 in the box. this is what they should've done in the first place
[QUOTE="LOXO7"] That's bs. It was dropped to make more money another way. With BC in the PS3 kind of makes the PS2 obsolete. They will put BC back into the PS3 after they drop the PS2. It only makes the most sense.lundy86_4
That's certainly a valid hypothesis, but do you have anything to actually back up your points before you shout "bs?"
Yeah. Let us both talk to Sony and ask them their business strategies.
Yeah. Let us both talk to Sony and ask them their business strategies.LOXO7
My point was based on the fact that hardware BC was a further expense in the manufacturing process. Your's seemed to be based entirely upon your speculation :?
the launch price of the ps3 is not a mistake. the only reason a small sum of people couldnt afford it because of the economic meltdown at the time. i went out and got two jobs so i can get a ps3. anyway sony are innovators, who needs bc when you can get hd remakes with trophies. i hope sony doesnt put ps3 bc on the ps4 because bc is so last gen
[QUOTE="likeabrick"]i like all the playstations, but besides the $599 no dualshock 3 launch, and bunch of dissapointments like haze and lair, the worst mistake they ever did was not give the PS3 backward compatability. If they did, then I think Sony still mightve been in 1st place. just bad marketing, I could've made saved sony millions if I was a marketing manager The BC was removed to lower the price so many were complaining about.
wow another BC BC BC thread. seriously? how is that sonys biggest mistake when ps2 are still on the market? I dont complain why my stove cant be used as a BBQ or why mmy house doesnt double as a space ship. you buy a product for what it is, if you got time to come here and cry about the PS then you got time to research PS and decide what is the best model for you. No one force you to buy a non BC model. I blame consumer ignorance
[QUOTE="LOXO7"] Yeah. Let us both talk to Sony and ask them their business strategies.lundy86_4
My point was based on the fact that hardware BC was a further expense in the manufacturing process. Your's seemed to be based entirely upon your speculation :?
So you think having the PS2 and PS3 run the same games would make more money?
the launch price of the ps3 is not a mistake. the only reason a small sum of people couldnt afford it because of the economic meltdown at the time. i went out and got two jobs so i can get a ps3. anyway sony are innovators, who needs bc when you can get hd remakes with trophies. i hope sony doesnt put ps3 bc on the ps4 because bc is so last gen
So you think having the PS2 and PS3 run the same games would make more money?LOXO7
I'm saying it's not possible to know whether or not keeping the PS2 on the market with a lack of BC for the PS3 makes more or less money for Sony. Hence why I called it a hypothesis.
I'm failing to understand the confusion, nor why we are still debating this point.
After seeing all the excitement about a GOW collection HD remix,Earth Worm Jim HD remix, SFII HD remix,Sly cooper HD remix and ICO/SOTC HD remix I think it's safe to assume that there is more money and interest in PS2-PS1-NES-SNES-Genesis, etc gamesgetting updated and upgraded for the next gen consoles with HD graphics and nicer sprites then the ability to play old games on a new system. The PS3 can play PS1 games, all of them have this BC, but nobody cares or even knows half the time.
People buy a new system to play new games, not old games. It's a great feature and I have a 20GB PS3 that plays PS2 games and I upgraded the HDD to 80GB but I still ended up trading the few PS2 games I kept for the HD upgraded version. My GOW's and ICO/SOTC PS2 games were traded so I can make room for the better PS3 version.
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