So is VGChartz accurate?

"lol vgchartz"

Yes, they make questionable predictions, but considering that they have Xbone total sales at 2.9 million by the end of December 28th and that Microsoft has just announced they sold slightly more than 3 million by the end of 2013, I'd say VGChartz's numbers have very low margins of error.

No they're not accurate.

Stop creating threads and go away

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They guess.

They're not a means of determining accurately, and they do get laughed at, but they are generally fairly close with their estimates.

Not really.

They were awfully close to the official numbers released by microsoft.

Microsoft announced over 3 million, meaning it was less than 3.1 million, else they would have said greater than or equal to 3.1 million (See sales data released 18 days after Xbone release).

Going by Vgchartz's estimates, 3 million would have been possible with 3 more days of sales.

Estimates...still not accurate

Accurate enough to be put on Halo's 4 box.

I don't expect them to have the exact number of units sold, but a margin of error of only .1 million is great in my opinion.

LOL they don't care about accuracy

They can not account for Digital Copies. How many Digital Xbox Ones were sold? ROFL........LOL no.

Vg had them at 2.5 and have the PS3 ahead of what sony announced shipped so it could be ahead of the 360. it also is off by more than 60% with most games sales, and not, they usually do not fix them after announcements.

They basically estimate stuff. That's their limit.

Yes, they are very accurate, all things considered.

You're basing this off of a singular occurrence? Their software tracking is horrendous. AFAIK, they were also botching the WiiU sales.

About as accurate as trying to aim in the toilet after you've had sex.

yip

this is an isolated incident. i agree with lundi.

wut?

He meant digital games, I think. VGChartz are known not to track digital, at least for the PC.

VGCHARTZ is not as inaccurate as all of you are claiming. There is a video somewhere from an financial firm that demonstrates how VGCHARTZ collects their tracking data. It's done through retailers. It's a very big operation that requires a lot of time and research by VGCHARTZ (which is why their updates are slow). Sometimes retailers will provide inaccurate numbers which lead to over/under tracking. They do get identified and fixed, but it's usually done late.

Even with their occasional tracking discrepancies, VGCHARTZ is widely used by many financial analysts and advisers in our industry; including Michael Pachter.

Could you find that video? I don't think anybody is denying the work they put in... It's just that the work is known to be rather inaccurate.

No bud, no.

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Watch this get completely ignored by the Lems.

I'm looking for it now. I have it somewhere, but the title of it pertained to something else entirely, so I'm having to go through all of them. As soon as I come across it, I'll link it. I'm leaving for work in 20 minutes so I may not have it up until tonight.

Now that I'm thinking about it, it might have been on one of Micheal Pachter's "Pach Attack" shows.

Thanks. It would be interesting to see.

that actually hurt halo 4 than give validity to vgchartz

Here it is! I was right, it was one of the Pach Attack shows.

Anyway, it starts about 1:50 into the video (the first two minutes he discusses how much money programmers make).

VGCHARTZ doesn't include 80% of PC sales since they are digital.

Very accurate.

Cool! So, essentially, they are great if you are tracking historical figures, rather than current... Which makes sense. Still, AFAIK, their software tracking is off... Especially for the PC.

They're pretty close, but Lems would like to think otherwise. They're the ones with the biggest issue with VG Chartz.

"Best selling Halo franchise in America" -source, sales data from Microsoft Studios information center.

Maybe the old Halo 4 boxes.

Evidence? Actual evidence, and not just bullshit.

Depends what you're looking for. If all you're looking for is estimates to give you a rough idea of how much a product may have sold, then VGChartz is fine, since their margin of error rarely goes beyond 10%. If you're looking for accurate figures of how much has actually been sold though, then VGChartz is indeed unreliable in that regard.

They aren't close at all for PC. Missing 80% which is all digital.

They're pretty close, but cows would like to think otherwise. They're the ones with the biggest issue with VGChartz.

See I can do it as well. VGChartz becomes important when it favors the cow/lem/sheep at that point in time. All factions have used it in an argument one time or another. It's lame of you to just single out 1 faction.

I think a big part of the issue with VGChartz comes from their handling of PC Game Sales. As others have mentioned, VGChartz doesn't track digital sales, since they account for the clear majority of sales on the PC (In some cases all sales), it lead to VGChatz sometimes being not just off or inaccurate but bizarrely inaccurate (situations like 'guessing' that a game sold 100k while it turns out that it sold millions).

I'd imagine that they are reasonably accurate when it comes to console games sold through retailers. Because that also where they have the most data to work with it's also where they are likely to be best at guessing. The problem is that while they are probably a good guess much of the time in some areas, other times they are way way off the mark. This means that everything they do becomes somewhat dubious.

Exactly! ..but cows would say otherwise.. since Vgchartz always seem to inflate sony numbers.. hmmm

If it helps my argument.

I don't follow them enough to comment on this personally, but from what I have read others say they are definitely not very reliable in terms of accuracy of numbers, however it seems that in most cases they simply "under track" , so usually when I look at their numbers I just use that as a point of reference and tell myself we know the actual figure must be higher(? but who knows by how much).

Also, digital sales will increase this generation, and as far as I know they don't have the digital sales numbers.

People love to hate on VGC, but what they don't love to do is provide a better source.

No.

No need. If the original source is in question, then it isn't necessary. We aren't talking a peer-reviewed source...

Very close in deed 2.9 by the 28th is real close i wonder how close is for the PS4.

stormtroopers are more accurate

And without a source to back up your claim that it is in question, all I can say is

lol...pretty much this.