Seriously can we have the old TOU back on SW?

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#51 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Yep. The trolls from back then were far more classy :P

lundy86_4

but it wasn't so annoying

I'm just amused by it. You should just relax and have some fun.

amused? you can't have a decent convo around here anymore though :(

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#52 ispeakfact
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

[QUOTE="Eponique"]

You can ignore them. You can't ignore 7-day suspensions that last 9 days.

deangallop

What would you have to do with the old TOU to get that kind of suspension?

I don't know.. look at somebody wrong.

say something snarky and end it with an emoticon.

Tis is true. Suspensions were handed out left and right. If you're gonna have a thread called System Wars, shouldn't you expect warring, of all kinds? Otherwise, it's sort of baiting.
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#53 waltefmoney
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I'm just amused by it. You should just relax and have some fun.

lundy86_4

For realz. Maybe even try trolling yourselves. It's a great way to relieve stress from getting trolled.

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#54 waltefmoney
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Tis is true. Suspensions were handed out left and right. If you're gonna have a thread called System Wars, shouldn't you expect warring, of all kinds? Otherwise, it's sort of baiting.ispeakfact

I remember you being a relatively civilized poster back then.

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#55 Another48hours
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Not to mention the amount of trolling was pretty much the same.

waltefmoney
Everyone had like 80 alts each during the OToU I got modded for so many things that were nt even SEEN by anyone else I left for awhile and came back later. Pming a mod without permission? Suspension Reporting a Sig where to guys where naked kissing eahother and the mod was gay Suspension Liking Chris Tucker over Katt Williams? Suspension Making a thread abut how OBJECTIVELY Halo was not great using links and asking for opinions? Banned Creating a thread with 6 screenshots? Banned Calling someone an idiot when he said that Saints Row was made for brainless gangbangers? Banned Using aLink to prove a mod wrong on a simple point like MP numbers of players online? Banned. How aboutwe stay far away fro the already abusive powers mods/Ads have?
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#56 lundy86_4  Online
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Not to mention the amount of trolling was pretty much the same.

shinrabanshou

Yep. The trolls from back then were far more classy :P

I can admire the more classy subtle trolling and rapier wit.

But the blatant annoying trolls nowadays have no class and all the subtlety of a sledgehammer.

I get far less moderations now, none that I can remember actually. But then I post here far less because it's far more of a sh*t hole.

Yeah. We had some bad trolls before, but they seem to have multiplied under the new ToU.

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#57 Jonwh18
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even a topic limit per day would help protsx and 48 hours had like +5 topics each today within 2 hrs

I'm fine with name calling just no trolling topics

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#58 verbtex  Moderator
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so what do we define it as?

posting content to deliberately enrage/annoy other users?

Jonwh18

posting content to annoy other users? I could say that people with different styled text is annoying, or that calling someone an xbot is trolling by that definition. It needs to be more exact before they take it.

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#59 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

so what do we define it as?

posting content to deliberately enrage/annoy other users?

verbtex

posting content to annoy other users? I could say that people with different styled text is annoying, or that calling someone an xbot is trolling by that definition. It needs to be more exact before they take it.

okay

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#60 ebrezzy1
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No

stop getting butthurt over

LuLz

System Warrior

not

System Warrior's B!tch

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#61 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="Another48hours"] Everyone had like 80 alts each during the OToU I got modded for so many things that were nt even SEEN by anyone else I left for awhile and came back later. Pming a mod without permission? Suspension Reporting a Sig where to guys where naked kissing eahother and the mod was gay Suspension Liking Chris Tucker over Katt Williams? Suspension Making a thread abut how OBJECTIVELY Halo was not great using links and asking for opinions? Banned Creating a thread with 6 screenshots? Banned Calling someone an idiot when he said that Saints Row was made for brainless gangbangers? Banned Using aLink to prove a mod wrong on a simple point like MP numbers of players online? Banned. How aboutwe stay far away fro the already abusive powers mods/Ads have?

A guy once called me a fool and I replied with the same(pages later), I got suspended and he didn't :x
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[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Tis is true. Suspensions were handed out left and right. If you're gonna have a thread called System Wars, shouldn't you expect warring, of all kinds? Otherwise, it's sort of baiting.waltefmoney

I remember you being a relatively civilized poster back then.

I'm not civilized now? :(
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#63 verbtex  Moderator
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even a topic limit per day would help protsx and 48 hours had like +5 topics each today within 2 hrs

I'm fine with name calling just no trolling topics

Jonwh18

The "implied" limit is about 2-3 per day. But we don't always catch them as they are reported seperately and mods act on different reports.

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#64 lundy86_4  Online
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Jonwh18"] but it wasn't so annoying

Jonwh18

I'm just amused by it. You should just relax and have some fun.

amused? you can't have a decent convo around here anymore though :(

I have plenty.

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#65 waltefmoney
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I'm not civilized now? :(ispeakfact

Well you are, I was just wondering why you got banned back then.

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#66 shinrabanshou
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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

even a topic limit per day would help protsx and 48 hours had like +5 topics each today within 2 hrs

I'm fine with name calling just no trolling topics

verbtex

The "implied" limit is about 2-3 per day. But we don't always catch them as they are reported seperately and mods act on different reports.

That's actually a good suggestion for a new explicit rule.

I don't think anyone needs to be making more than 3 threads in a day.

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#67 Diviniuz
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Put a new rule. System Wars get to vote on what users should not be able to make threads. Problem solved.

Or put in a downvote system. If a topic gets enough votes to hit a threshold, it will be empty or something like that.

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#68 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="verbtex"]

[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

even a topic limit per day would help protsx and 48 hours had like +5 topics each today within 2 hrs

I'm fine with name calling just no trolling topics

shinrabanshou

The "implied" limit is about 2-3 per day. But we don't always catch them as they are reported seperately and mods act on different reports.

That's actually a good suggestion for a new explicit rule.

I don't think anyone needs to be making more than 3 threads in a day.

agreed I would even go so far as to say 2

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#69 Bigboi500
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The old TOU was just terrible, you could get suspended just for making light-hearted jokes with pals. It's like the mods had zero sense of humor back then.

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#70 Master_ShakeXXX
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It sucks either way.

New TOU = get trolled constantly

Old TOU = walking on egg shells

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#71 Jonwh18
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what was the old deffinition of trolling?

I'm fine with getting called a dumbass, I just don't like seeing 9 topics along the lines of PS3 F*CKING SHREADS GAMES when its obviously not true.

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#72 Bigboi500
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Put a new rule. System Wars get to vote on what users should not be able to make threads. Problem solved. Diviniuz
I think a who's who mob rule is a terrible idea. We already have enough brown-nosing of some popular users.

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#73 waltefmoney
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what was the old deffinition of trolling?

Jonwh18

Saying something someone doesn't like.

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#74 Another48hours
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even a topic limit per day would help protsx and 48 hours had like +5 topics each today within 2 hrs

I'm fine with name calling just no trolling topics

Jonwh18
Wow, 5 threads. Also, define troll topic.
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#75 UnrealLegend
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I'd prefer the old TOU, but on the other hand, it's great being able to call people like LoosingEnds the words they deserve to be called.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Not to mention the amount of trolling was pretty much the same.

Another48hours

Everyone had like 80 alts each during the OToU I got modded for so many things that were nt even SEEN by anyone else I left for awhile and came back later. Pming a mod without permission? Suspension Reporting a Sig where to guys where naked kissing eahother and the mod was gay Suspension Liking Chris Tucker over Katt Williams? Suspension Making a thread abut how OBJECTIVELY Halo was not great using links and asking for opinions? Banned Creating a thread with 6 screenshots? Banned Calling someone an idiot when he said that Saints Row was made for brainless gangbangers? Banned Using aLink to prove a mod wrong on a simple point like MP numbers of players online? Banned. How aboutwe stay far away fro the already abusive powers mods/Ads have?

This is just flat-out not true. Most of these things you listed were perfectly fine with the old TOU.

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#76 MonsieurX
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Using "jelly" as the only argument should be a ban *cough*ispeakfact*cough*
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#77 Another48hours
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Put a new rule. System Wars get to vote on what users should not be able to make threads. Problem solved.

Or put in a downvote system. If a topic gets enough votes to hit a threshold, it will be empty or something like that.

Diviniuz
Yes, so all brofitst has to do is make 50 alt accounts.
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#78 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

even a topic limit per day would help protsx and 48 hours had like +5 topics each today within 2 hrs

I'm fine with name calling just no trolling topics

Another48hours

Wow, 5 threads. Also, define troll topic.

dude someone besides me even brought it up to you and you just kept going

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#79 ironcreed
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Giving more leeway and freedom is great, as long as there is a line drawn somewhere. When there is obvious baiting going on by trolls non-stop, it does nothing but make the forum a cesspool and drowns out good discussions. This is why I spend most of my time on GAF. There is freedom and fun, but they still do not put up with nonsense. It makes for a great forum as a result.

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#80 waltefmoney
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Using "jelly" as the only argument should be a ban *cough*ispeakfact*cough*MonsieurX

So much jelly in this post.

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#81 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Using "jelly" as the only argument should be a ban *cough*ispeakfact*cough*waltefmoney

So much jelly in this post.

Argh.
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#82 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]Put a new rule. System Wars get to vote on what users should not be able to make threads. Problem solved. Bigboi500

I think a who's who mob rule is a terrible idea. We already have enough brown-nosing of some popular users.

I am not talking about a large amount of users not being able to post just the obviously terrible posters. Or an alternative---maybe a voting system like upvote/downvote we have in the comments gamespot has in many pages. If it gets enough downvotes (large amount), then it gets cleared. It would only be in place for the first post (TC topic) and would need a large amount of negative votes to get it passed or something.
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#83 BPoole96
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I like being able to cuss without having to worry about censor bypassing moderations and being about to call certain users idiots/morons

I was suspended at once for calling someone a moron, even though they were blatantly being moronic

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#84 gamefan67
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I guess im indifferent this new tou makes everything to lax, while the old tou made everything way too boring (and i got moderated for the silliest things).
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#85 Master_ShakeXXX
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This is just flat-out not true. Most of these things you listed were perfectly fine with the old TOU.

UnrealLegend

The old TOU was ridiculous. I was once heavily moderated for calling another user "ignorant". That's pretty f*ckin stupid.

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#86 shinrabanshou
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I like being able to cuss without having to worry about censor bypassing moderations and being about to call certain users idiots/morons

I was suspended at once for calling someone a moron, even though they were blatantly being moronic

BPoole96

Still can't say f***.

It's weird that commonly used profanity is disallowed, while people on here use the word rape as if it's a funny term.

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#87 Jonwh18
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Lke I said I'm fine with anme calling but troll threads need to go. Trolling: blatently putting down a game or system to anger other users. how about that?

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#89 Another48hours
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[QUOTE="Another48hours"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

even a topic limit per day would help protsx and 48 hours had like +5 topics each today within 2 hrs

I'm fine with name calling just no trolling topics

Jonwh18

Wow, 5 threads. Also, define troll topic.

dude someone besides me even brought it up to you and you just kept going

They brought it up to me after 5 threads. Made no more after, o point is invalid. Also none were troll threads, so if they were all made by differentpeople, you would have said jack. Shush with the hating.
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Get the f*ck out, dumbass.
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#91 verbtex  Moderator
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What? I don't think this happened.

[QUOTE="Another 48hours"]Creating a thread with 6 screenshots? BannedAnother48hours

People were never banned for that, as far as I recall. They may have been banned for invading. Or bandodging. The most you coul get for posting two many pictures was a warning for not putting a 56k warning.

Calling someone an idiot when he said that Saints Row was made for brainless gangbangers? BannedAnother48hours

Flaming used to be a 7 day suspension, then it was 3 days before the new TOU.

Using aLink to prove a mod wrong on a simple point like MP numbers of players online? Banned.Another48hours

I don't think that happened. We don't moderate for disagreeing with us.

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Don't like it then ignore it. Nobody forces you to click on a topic and nobody forces you read a message. For anyone who doesn't like it you willingly click here under your own free will. Your King has spoken

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#93 Diviniuz
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Lke I said I'm fine with anme calling but troll threads need to go. Trolling: blatently putting down a game or system to anger other users. how about that?

Jonwh18
I would be good with something along those lines. Threads made to promote no real discussion really need to be locked down
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#94 Another48hours
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]Put a new rule. System Wars get to vote on what users should not be able to make threads. Problem solved. Diviniuz

I think a who's who mob rule is a terrible idea. We already have enough brown-nosing of some popular users.

I am not talking about a large amount of users not being able to post just the obviously terrible posters. Or an alternative---maybe a voting system like upvote/downvote we have in the comments gamespot has in many pages. If it gets enough downvotes (large amount), then it gets cleared. It would only be in place for the first post (TC topic) and would need a large amount of negative votes to get it passed or something.

What part of alternate accounts are you not getting? Voting system is flawed.
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#95 ebrezzy1
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Lke I said I'm fine with anme calling but troll threads need to go. Trolling: blatently putting down a game or system to anger other users. how about that?

Jonwh18

no

let the LuLz ride

if you getting butthurt that much then maybe you need a day or 2 away

maybe a bit longer seeing as you gotta wait on the DL to finish everytime you buy a PS3 game

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#96 waltefmoney
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Still can't say f***.

It's weird that commonly used profanity is disallowed, while people on here use the word rape as if it's a funny term.

shinrabanshou

Fuсk :cool:

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#97 ispeakfact
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Using "jelly" as the only argument should be a ban *cough*ispeakfact*cough*

Now now. You don't mean that.
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#98 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

Still can't say f***.

It's weird that commonly used profanity is disallowed, while people on here use the word rape as if it's a funny term.

waltefmoney

Fuсk :cool:

:o

How did you do that?

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#99 Eponique
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Lke I said I'm fine with anme calling but troll threads need to go. Trolling: blatently putting down a game or system to anger other users. how about that?

Jonwh18

That's way too broad. You don't have to define it really. Everyone knows who the bad trolls are. Posters with community-wide contempt and repeat low quality posts.

Even that's too broad. Download adblock and use it as your personal banhammer. Done.

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#100 waltefmoney
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:o

How did you do that?

BPoole96

Fuсking magic