PS5 beaten to dust: 15GB/s SSD!

PS5 already obsolete?

But does it have fairy dust?

8 TB? That thing has to cost thousands of dollars.

Now, I like nice things, I have no problem paying more for quality. This is why I game on PC.

But there is a limit.

But damn that thing is pretty slick. That dude is so lucky, manufacturers just throw hardware at him and he makes videos. Good for him. His whole self-deprecating PS5 fake fued is pretty funny as well.

Lol hillarious if true, consoles are once again obsolete before release!

Oh yeah in before, but but everyone can’t afford this, average pc gamer doesn’t have this etc etc. and then in a thread about Xbox, nice looking forward to play this on my super powerful pc that run circles around Xbox!!

HaH

$5,000-$10,000 worth of tech to beat a console SSD? Sounds legit.

Disclaimer: Yes I realize this is a one off and not a direct comparison at lower levels and other SSD's that are more comparable.

Guy is loaded, even his camera costs a grand i believe. 3k is nothing for him. He doesn't even need them. He buys 3000 buck gpu's to drill holes in it to make a video about it for example.

Tech is far superior then what sony has. Not even in the same league.

SSD wars

HaH

@bluestars: last gen was resolution wars. This gen will be ssd wars.

It's like people have forgotten how the PS5 SSD actually works. You really should get yourself up to speed on the subject.

@Gatygun: He gets stuff for free from sponsors.

There are alternatives on PC that can already reach 15 - 28 GB/sec the latter being a really expensive option but the other is a $50 pcie card that you put your nvmes in. PC had PS4 beat before it was even announced.

Someone once said PCs were holding back SSDs. 😂

any pc with 16 gb or more beats ps5 and xbox SX.

ps5/xbox sx=16 gb shared memory plus os takes up memory even less.

No ssd can replace physical main or video memory.

Any pc with the below

Any half decent cpu.

Amd rdna2 or Nvidia Geforce 3000 card releasing this fall.

16gb of ram or more.

sata ssd or nvme ssd.

Will still wipe the floor with ps5/xbox series x.

This is all very impressive but not surprising. Now let's just get everyone on Steam to move onto fast SSD's and we may see games taking advantage of it. But good luck with that. That will take years.

@Martin_G_N: most people opt out of the survery it doesnt show the whole picture plus alot of people dont even use steam also.

I don't expect or need big changes. Just want things to keep moving as they always do.

@ps5rulez: still, I think it's accurate. 1060 GPU is the most popular, which means they probably don't use more money on a fast SSD. They may have SSD, but that's a standard one with 500MB/s.

And a lot of people also use mediocre laptops with similar spec.

@Martin_G_N: There's something called diminishing returns once you start to get faster than 500 MB/s, plus most pc gamers have ssd's these days js.

@Martin_G_N: 1060 is still better than ps4 pro and comparable to xbox one x performance with the option to use higher res textures than xbox one x in most games.

@ps5rulez: still, far away from next gen. And most of these people won't have a comparable PC to next gen consoles until the end of the gen.

At what cost?

@Martin_G_N: most people wont have next gen consoles untill the end of the generation.

Yet 13.5 million according to Steam hardware stats have RTX 2060 Super and above... TODAY!

Seems like this is already upsetting the faction. 😂 Time to damage control.

@Grey_Eyed_Elf: those numbers sounds wrong. 11% of users have 1060, the next one is the 1050. At 2% we have the 2060, which will also struggle as the new consoles gets optimized games for them.

Does that mean that in the new Ratchet game, even more worlds can pop up at the same time? Makes the PS5 version look kinda outdated, don't you think?

@ps5rulez: And most people will never own a pc that out performs a ps5 or xsx.

I pray that ms has a good show this month because the type of ammo their fans have had all gen is weak.

I miss actually thinking lems and herms have a good point sometimes.

While Linus knows his sh*t when it comes to hardware components he doesn't have any idea about the software side. You don't need 15GB/s SSD or magical PS5 I/O architecture to beat PS5 I/O. PC's even with 5.5 GB/s SSDs can perform in the same ballpark of PS5 I/O throughput if the developer knows what he's doing. The overhead attributed to PC's I/O is overblown and for obvious reasons. You can by pass it and you don't need special 'chips' for it either.

More like too much ignorant folks commenting on the topic.

@sealionact: that's a stupid way to frame it. Yes, most people in the world who own PCs don't have computers that powerful.

However, the amount of people who own PCs that are more powerful than the PS5/XBXS will be more than the owners of those respective consoles.

@tormentos

Building the CELL in 2005 would have cost everything as well. In the end it meant nothing, it performed worse in 90% of usage cases and remains a dated. That SSD Linus is using is for enterprise applications, not gaming.

Sony would have received a far better benefit by investing into a better GPU, but like ASYNC and the CELL they through more money at R&D for a gimmick rather than engineering a better cooling system and paying a higher upfront hardware cost.

@wizard: Games like killzone 2/3 put cell to decent use, but it will be the same case with ps5's ssd multiplatform games wont really take advantage of it only 1st party sony games.

@wizard: It was an intentionally stupid point which mocked someone's even stupider point...i didn't think someone else would be that stupid to get triggered by it though....

@ps5rulez: It's even less useful.

An SSD doesn't render anything. I don't see a usage scenario where 15/gbps of transfer speed over PCIE is useful. At that speed, you're past last generation video memory. You might be able to pool with the SSD for low priority video memory but the PS5 doesn't have the render capability to get past 8-12gb of VRAM. I've hit that amount of VRAM in a game before, and it was using uncompressed 4K normal maps with 8K specular.

This seems to be the latest gimmick in Sony's consoles, designed more for marketing.

The only situation where this would be useful to my knowledge is streaming uncompressed data through the PCIE lane to the graphics card without needing extensive CPU compression. This is to alleviate a possible CPU bottleneck though, and it won't make your games look better even if you can hold a more consistent framerate.

lol ps5/xbox series X wont touch any half decent pc i can tell u that now.

@Livecommander: Meanwhile Sony's "ammo" has been to reveal the largest console in history which looks like it was designed by an Acid influenced Homer Simpson, and the only one that can't stand by itself on either axis without a stand....as well as a half Spiderman game using ps4 assets that doesn't feature Spiderman, and had Sony execs scrambling to silence the devs who called it an expansion.

Did I mention that they managed to reveal a console with 175gb less storage than the last one...and that they have no clue who will make the SSD expansion cards, nor when?

Oh and they're hoping you'll send a photo of your ear so that you can get the best out of their innovative 3d sound tech which has been around since 1998.

Never mind. At least they were clear about BC.....

Ammo? Sounds like blanks to me...

@sealionact: I think you're covering your lack of foresight with projection. Unless you're 15 or trolling, I'd avoid the word triggered.

It was a stupid point, and commonly repeated.

@wizard: Hey, here's the guy who called my point stupid and true in the same sentence...

If I do actually post something innacurate, then by all means have a go. If not just shrug...don't take it too seriously and move on.

It's nothing personal.

@wizard:

That is not even remotely the same,we are talking here about a CONSUMER having to pay thousands of dollars for that Raid card vs Cell which was not sold to the public nor cost sony thousands to make per unit,by the way cell was ahead of its time in fact cell was basically an early day apu,and had great compute power by the way.

IT was a CPU that could handle GPU task when amd and Intel CPU could not with much success.

But what does all that crap has to do with using a ultra expensive ssd that would probably alone cost more than a súper powerful rig vs the PS5?

@sealionact: True, accurate, and stupid aren't mutually exclusive.

@tormentos:

I'm making a comparison between cost, availability, and usefulness. Why Sony continues to implement less useful hardware decisions at moderate costs offset by total production is beyond me. Their engineering team is Apple levels of stupid (intentional as it maybe).

The PS5's SSD is not very useful but high availability to lower its cost. The CELLs function is the same. The Linus SSD up there isn't mass produced and with very little usability for most consumers so the cost is much, much higher.

Again, maybe they're using this as some workaround to offset CPU bottle necking but I don't trust Sony that this is going to work out like the marketing team may claim.

Lmao, yes, 10-20 years down the road, computers won't just automatically be more powerful because they'll never get more powerful. You do realize that what you said is pretty stupid, right?

@wizard: As long as what I said was the truth and accurate, the third is simply your opinion.....A stupid one, but then anyone who feels like they need to White Knight a tongue in cheek comment must be exclusively stupid....

@DragonfireXZ95: "computers won't just automatically be more powerful because they'll never get more powerful."

Lol....and what I said was stupid? Wanna try again in English?

Here, hermits are admitting defeat. Its over, console peasants are dethroning the king. Game over for the master race.

@hardwenzen: Lol umm it's the same every generation omg console features hyped and pc pisses all over it every generation nothing will ever change, the pc industry is always changing more rapidly than consoles are getting updated get over it.Consoles cost less for a reason because they offer less hardware and features.You get what you pay for, you dont get what you dont pay for.

@ps5rulez: Consoles cost less because manufacturers make bulk deals, and they don't need to make a massive profit on each console sold....games are where the profit is. Thats why you can't match a pc with a console recently on price, components and performance simultaneously when they launch.