I no I went off on one when the news came out but instead of buying a £1500 PC I might go for this instead and give my PS4 now to my brother. With the spare cash I could buy all games instead.
I figure I can probably sell my PS4 for a decent amount near the end of summer, go a few months without it and just use that money to pay for at least half of a PS4 Neo so it doesn't seem too expensive. I'm guessing this will be the more expensive console around $500.
From http://vrworld.com/2016/05/11/amd-confirms-sony-playstation-neo-based-zen-polaris/
The new 14nm FinFET APU consists out of eight x86 ‘Zen Lite’ LP cores at 2.1 GHz (they’re not Jaguar cores, as previously rumored) and a Polaris GPU, operating on 15-20% faster clock than the original PS4.
"ZEN Lite" reminds me of K7 Duron vs K7 Athlon i.e. perhaps L2 cache is reduced and L3 cache is reduced/removed.
AMD ZEN CPU core has SMT,.... perhaps PS4 NEO's "ZEN Lite" has SMT disabled.
With 20 percent clock speed increase for GPU i.e. 960 Mhz and 36 CU yields 4.4 TFLOPS.
So I was right when I said the PS4 would perform similar to an AMD 280x.
Nice to see that. It's around the ballpark of a 7970.
@Syn_Valence: Yeah for example AC Unity had a huge issues which large crowds which were heavily dependent on the CPU. As a result the console versions had major dips in the frame rate and the PS4 even with its faster GPU had trouble because the source of the performance drop was the CPU.
If they had a faster CPU, it could have operated to be up to par with the GPU and gave a higher and smoother performance.
It wasn't the CPU the problem,stated by Ubisoft them self,the game was freaking screw up even on PC.
In fact Ubisoft claimed that it lower the number of units on screen and the problem was still there,and then the game was 900p which will not give you faster frames if the issue is really CPU oriented.
The same crap was say about the witcher 3 and people like you here claimed it was the CPU and claim the xbox one version was faster because it had a faster CPU which ended being a lie.
ACU was a screw up game hold back by the 3rd party it self to avoid arguments and stuff by their own words,reality is i am sure MS payed for the game to be faster on xbox one,after all MS bough from Ubisof like 4 million copies of ACU and ACBF as well,which were bundle free on holiday 2014.
In fact the xbox one version at times was more than 6 frames ahead of the PS4,when there is no fu**ing way that you will win 6 FPS or more on a 150mhz CPU difference even less using that shitty jaguar.
If you used FXAA instead of MSAA Unity ran well on PC.
I played it when it first came out and at max settings at 2560x1440 I was getting over 60fps and into the 70s and 80s.
If you used FXAA instead of MSAA Unity ran well on PC.
I played it when it first came out and at max settings at 2560x1440 I was getting over 60fps and into the 70s and 80s.
You can check the date on my video.
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Yes and you were running 970 in SLI,which in nothing represent what most people on PC have you are basically brute forcing your way into good performance.
So I was right when I said the PS4 would perform similar to an AMD 280x.
Nice to see that. It's around the ballpark of a 7970.
How the fu** you will get that from what he is posting.?
So basically if this is true the PS4 will have 8 cores 16 threads at 2.1ghz,now it has 8 cores 8 thread 1.6ghz, while not all 8 are use for games,7 of those are now in this moment being use for games,so that mean the PS4 Neo getting 7 core 14 threads at 2.1ghz which will be enough to not loose performance using that polaris GPU which at 1440p can run hitman at 60FPS.
Basically if this CPU holds up the whole issue about CPU would not even be a thing to question any more,consoles are more efficient on CPU usage than PC,which most developer tend to brute force things rather than optimize them.
From http://vrworld.com/2016/05/11/amd-confirms-sony-playstation-neo-based-zen-polaris/
The new 14nm FinFET APU consists out of eight x86 ‘Zen Lite’ LP cores at 2.1 GHz (they’re not Jaguar cores, as previously rumored) and a Polaris GPU, operating on 15-20% faster clock than the original PS4.
"ZEN Lite" reminds me of K7 Duron vs K7 Athlon i.e. perhaps L2 cache is reduced and L3 cache is reduced/removed.
AMD ZEN CPU core has SMT,.... perhaps PS4 NEO's "ZEN Lite" has SMT disabled.
With 20 percent clock speed increase for GPU i.e. 960 Mhz and 36 CU yields 4.4 TFLOPS.
So I was right when I said the PS4 would perform similar to an AMD 280x.
Nice to see that. It's around the ballpark of a 7970.
Polaris has another 30 percent performance increase from architectural improvements.
Staff from the Radeon Technology Group did admit that the bulk of the efficiency improvements that we will see with AMD's newest GPUs will come from the so-called "FinFET Advantage", with PCPER stating that is is "on the order of a 70/30 split".
R9-380X at 1020 Mhz(4.177 TFLOPS) has beaten R9-280X(7979 GE) IceQ (base 1000Mhz/4.096 TFLOPS, boost 1050Mhz/4.3 TFLOPS).
Polaris 10 36 at 960 Mhz is the faster GCN over R9-380X 1020Mhz OC and R9-280X OC.
R9-290 has 947 Mhz with 40 CU yields 4.848 TFLOPS.
PC's Polaris 10 36 CU at 1050 Mhz yields 4.838 TFLOPS.
Now your just trollin. At least its a fact and not some fanboy hyping and in denial.
Well, clock speed isn't the only factor here. The cell will suck compare to Jaguar at pretty much everything, I doubt it will even be able to feed the GPU properly with everything involve.
So what? its probably just a slim with gpu boost to help with 4k video or mainly the PSVR. It's really no different to when the slim psp models had twice the ram when compared to old fat models. It's becoming more telling since the ram & cpu are the same but with speed/bandwidth boosts.
No we have sources like DF confirming it does exist and now AMD,from what i get here a die shrink would have being very expensive,so in other words what sony did knowing it would pay probably as much for a die shrink than for a new soc,well they went with a new soc with more powerful components that but doesn't disrupt compatibility between both models,is actually a great idea.
But this probably mean that PS4 neo will replace the older PS4 in store shelves after some time,because die shrink and reduce component is vital in consoles so that prices can go down.
Now your just trollin. At least its a fact and not some fanboy hyping and in denial.
Well, clock speed isn't the only factor here. The cell will suck compare to Jaguar at pretty much everything, I doubt it will even be able to feed the GPU properly with everything involve.
lol really? Zen in general is suppose to be around 40% faster than Vishera and Jaguar is more than 25% slower clock per clock than Vishera. So even with Zen Lite it will be at least slightly faster than Vishera. Cell was joke for normal cpu usage, with its single core PPE that was weaker than a Pentium 3, but its SPE cores were designed for parallel work loads ie gpu type jobs.
Zen Lite at 2.1 ghz will be able to feed the gpu just fine with proper multithreaded coding.
Now your just trollin. At least its a fact and not some fanboy hyping and in denial.
Well, clock speed isn't the only factor here. The cell will suck compare to Jaguar at pretty much everything, I doubt it will even be able to feed the GPU properly with everything involve.
lol really? Zen in general is suppose to be around 40% faster than Vishera and Jaguar is more than 25% slower clock per clock than Vishera. So even with Zen Lite it will be at least slightly faster than Vishera. Cell was joke for normal cpu usage, with its single core PPE that was weaker than a Pentium 3, but its SPE cores were designed for parallel work loads ie gpu type jobs.
Zen Lite at 2.1 ghz will be able to feed the gpu just fine with proper multithreaded coding.
I thought we were discussing cell and not Zen. When did I ever say Jaguar is powerful than Zen? I said cell was shit compared to Jaguar in pretty much every way.
And I know what SPE does. Comapre to SPEs' any DirectX 10 or 11 GPU perform tasks probably a million times better.
Now your just trollin. At least its a fact and not some fanboy hyping and in denial.
Well, clock speed isn't the only factor here. The cell will suck compare to Jaguar at pretty much everything, I doubt it will even be able to feed the GPU properly with everything involve.
lol really? Zen in general is suppose to be around 40% faster than Vishera and Jaguar is more than 25% slower clock per clock than Vishera. So even with Zen Lite it will be at least slightly faster than Vishera. Cell was joke for normal cpu usage, with its single core PPE that was weaker than a Pentium 3, but its SPE cores were designed for parallel work loads ie gpu type jobs.
Zen Lite at 2.1 ghz will be able to feed the gpu just fine with proper multithreaded coding.
Now your just trollin. At least its a fact and not some fanboy hyping and in denial.
Well, clock speed isn't the only factor here. The cell will suck compare to Jaguar at pretty much everything, I doubt it will even be able to feed the GPU properly with everything involve.
lol really? Zen in general is suppose to be around 40% faster than Vishera and Jaguar is more than 25% slower clock per clock than Vishera. So even with Zen Lite it will be at least slightly faster than Vishera. Cell was joke for normal cpu usage, with its single core PPE that was weaker than a Pentium 3, but its SPE cores were designed for parallel work loads ie gpu type jobs.
Zen Lite at 2.1 ghz will be able to feed the gpu just fine with proper multithreaded coding.
There's less need for "proper multi-threaded coding" .
AMD's DX11 driver doesn't have any fancy NVidia's DX11 driver async task and MT performance extraction tricks. .
DX11 only has a single immediate render thread.
PS3 BC might be possible on 8 core ZEN Lite 2.1 Ghz.
@StrongBlackVine: Are you actually gonna raise a point or carry being a butthurt douche?. So what it like you ignore the many times they've been wrong & this could be either be info on the very early stages of a PS5 or a slim model that has VR support built in. Not my fault me and other only believe when sony say's something not just random sites desperate for clicks.
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