PS3's Aging Hardware is Limiting Call of Duty Says Sledgehammer CEO

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[QUOTE="super600"]

I can't tell how good rage looks compared to the other great looking console games, but it does look incredible. The best looking PC game is crysis until BF3 comes out.

mitu123

No it isn't. It doesn't even have hard or soft shadows and is full of pop up and inconsistent texture work.

Oh yeah, it still looks great. :P

It just isn't the top dog anymore, not by a long shot.

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[QUOTE="super600"]

I can't tell how good rage looks compared to the other great looking console games, but it does look incredible. The best looking PC game is crysis until BF3 comes out.

mitu123

BF3 looking better than Crysis. :lol: Good one.

I don't deny BF3 being a better game than Crysis, but looking better, as in BF3 being the new graphics king that everyone will agree on? Nope, not going to happen. Crysis will still remain King.

PS. I hate Crysis and find it boring to play, but we need to give credit where credits due.

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[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

BF3 looking better than Crysis. :lol: Good one.

DangerousLiquid

I don't deny BF3 being a better game than Crysis, but looking better, as in BF3 being the new graphics king that everyone will agree on? Nope, not going to happen. Crysis will still remain King.

PS. I hate Crysis and find it boring to play, but we need to give credit where credits due.

Lol! The textures in BF3 and the lighting system look way better then Crysis. The animations are also really good.

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[QUOTE="mitu123"] Maybe not on consoles, but PC isn't far off, plus it does outdo Crysis in areas.

super600

I don't deny BF3 being a better game than Crysis, but looking better, as in BF3 being the new graphics king that everyone will agree on? Nope, not going to happen. Crysis will still remain King.

PS. I hate Crysis and find it boring to play, but we need to give credit where credits due.

Lol! The textures in BF3 and the lighting system look way better then Crysis. The animations are also really good.

Nah, not even close... Be realistic.

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[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

I don't deny BF3 being a better game than Crysis, but looking better, as in BF3 being the new graphics king that everyone will agree on? Nope, not going to happen. Crysis will still remain King.

PS. I hate Crysis and find it boring to play, but we need to give credit where credits due.

DangerousLiquid

Lol! The textures in BF3 and the lighting system look way better then Crysis. The animations are also really good.

Nah, not even close... Be realistic.

Crysis doesn't look as good as BF3 as the other guys already proved to you. BF3 is made to run on insanely powerful future PC tech while Crysis was made for tech about 3-4 years old.

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[QUOTE="super600"]

Lol! The textures in BF3 and the lighting system look way better then Crysis. The animations are also really good.

super600

Nah, not even close... Be realistic.

Crysis doesn't look as good as BF3 as the other guys already proved to you. BF3 is made to run on insanely powerful future PC tech while Crysis was made for tech about 3-4 years old.

Lolz... Look at the pics one page back... Obliterates anything Dice can put forward.

The PS3 only has 256 Mb of main memory. That is a problem for the newest games.

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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

No it isn't. It doesn't even have hard or soft shadows and is full of pop up and inconsistent texture work.

theuncharted34

Oh yeah, it still looks great. :P

It just isn't the top dog anymore, not by a long shot.

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[QUOTE="mitu123"] I even posted pics earlier pointing Crysis's flaws in graphics, great looking game still though.:P

carljohnson3456

Oh yeah, it still looks great. :P

It just isn't the top dog anymore, not by a long shot.

It's by far the best album they've put out. There's not a single bad song on Gold Cobra. :)

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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]The first post on the first page which contains an exert - "the 256mb of system memory on the PS3". That's pretty specific if you ask me. If everyone else can get similar results on both systems why not CoD devs? Multiplats these days have tiny differences.WilliamRLBaker

You want to know what's limiting Call of Duty?

A two year development cycle, yearly releases, and an engine that is twelve years old.

DarkLink77

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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

No it isn't. It doesn't even have hard or soft shadows and is full of pop up and inconsistent texture work.

theuncharted34

Oh yeah, it still looks great. :P

It just isn't the top dog anymore, not by a long shot.

Ehh, I don't see that many contenders......

r_texturesstreaming=0 and pop-in is gone by the way.

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[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Nah, not even close... Be realistic.

DangerousLiquid

Crysis doesn't look as good as BF3 as the other guys already proved to you. BF3 is made to run on insanely powerful future PC tech while Crysis was made for tech about 3-4 years old.

Lolz... Look at the pics one page back... Obliterates anything Dice can put forward.

You want to know what's limiting Call of Duty?

A two year development cycle, yearly releases, and an engine that is twelve years old.

DarkLink77

so it's not the 360 but the PS3? We know Activision has a contract with MS, why would he mention MS in this case? He is right on one part, the consoles are aging, but the problem is, OTHER GAMES ARE EVOLVING, even on these "outdated" machines. If they really wanted to prove this statement correct they would make a PC only CoD game that needs to be played on a mid-high range pc. This guy is full of bull feces.

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[QUOTE="super600"]

Crysis doesn't look as good as BF3 as the other guys already proved to you. BF3 is made to run on insanely powerful future PC tech while Crysis was made for tech about 3-4 years old.

lightleggy

Lolz... Look at the pics one page back... Obliterates anything Dice can put forward.

Yeah, I'm done here. If you were trying to be funny with this BF3 looks better than Crysis, you failed. Bye.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

You want to know what's limiting Call of Duty?

A two year development cycle, yearly releases, and an engine that is twelve years old.

the_ChEeSe_mAn2

Yet, Call of Duty is evolving far faster than any other FPS on the planet. Hmm, strange... :o

Actually,this is not funny at all.Just geometry processing in BF3 takes 6-10ms of RSX time(33ms budget for 30fps).MW3 runs at twice frame rate thus having a budget of 16 ms.So if you waste more than half of your resources on solely geometry,how much is there left for everything else?(note that geometry processing is easier on performance than pixel processing,post processing and all other stuff engine has to do.

Its pretty valid actually...

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The PS3 is holding back Call of Duty, I mean the PS3 has hit it's peak, Uncharted 3 is as good as it's going to get, but the 360 keeps improving, Forza 4, Gears 3 and The Witcher 2 which is only possible on 360

They should make Call of Duty 360 exclusive

Deevoshun

After Forza 4 and Witcher 2, I am believing it as well. I guess after all, the only reason PS3 "looked" better was because they have had more exclusives sooner. Now that Xbox is grabbing some exclusives (by console) its starting to show its true power, power beyond what PS3 could handle.

The Witcher 2

Gears of War 3

Forza 4

Very impressive graphics wise.

Not sure if it could or could not handle those games but no doubt that 360 have been very underrated in the past 5 years when it came to it´s capabilities. Those games you listed (plus RDR and Crysis 2) proved 360 could easly handle anything shown so far on PS3.

I still keep thinking that both consoles are equally powerfull, 360 having the advantage of being easier to develop for.

LMAO @ COD developers spewing crap about "aging hardware" and "limited".

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Lolz... Look at the pics one page back... Obliterates anything Dice can put forward.

DangerousLiquid

Yeah, I'm done here. If you were trying to be funny with this BF3 looks better than Crysis, you failed. Bye.

lol now that's a statement that makes you look stupid. Well done Mr CEO.

Go play God of War 3, CEO of sledgehammer.

i've seen first generation XBOX 360 and PS3 games that looks better than recent COD games.

well they always have PCs, if they don't like the outdated consoles they could take advantage of em

New engine already, you would think he would be smart enough to relize this. Look at Heavy Rain, God Of War on PS3? Pretty impressive imo

Still this comment was funny as alot of console fanboys think consoles are not that far behind pcs atm "Some things are just too big for the consoles that we have right now"

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

You want to know what's limiting Call of Duty?

A two year development cycle, yearly releases, and an engine that is twelve years old.

DangerousLiquid

Yet, Call of Duty is evolving far faster than any other FPS on the planet. Hmm, strange... :o

....Wut? I didn't know using the same engine as a 4 year old game, not changing gameplay at all, and adding in features that make the game unbalanced means it's evolving.

PS3 can run greatly more technically powerful shooters Rage, Battlefield 3, and Crysis 2 but it's limiting a game that's running on like an eight year old egine?

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[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"] Excellent answer, couldn't have said it better myself. AvatarMan96

Yet, Call of Duty is evolving far faster than any other FPS on the planet. Hmm, strange... :o

....Wut? I didn't know using the same engine as a 4 year old game, not changing gameplay at all, and adding in features that make the game unbalanced means it's evolving.

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[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

Yet, Call of Duty is evolving far faster than any other FPS on the planet. Hmm, strange... :o

lightleggy

....Wut? I didn't know using the same engine as a 4 year old game, not changing gameplay at all, and adding in features that make the game unbalanced means it's evolving.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="AvatarMan96"]

....Wut? I didn't know using the same engine as a 4 year old game, not changing gameplay at all, and adding in features that make the game unbalanced means it's evolving.

AvatarMan96

Well a lot of people could think that of yours. Just dont pay attention to him...he has reduced his activity drastically since most of the users stopped paying him attention...so he should be gone in a few days if he realizes no one is biting the bait anymore

I agree ps3 is weaker than the xbox 360.

What's with this Crysis vs BF3 argument? Both are at the top for best looking games. . . . BTW if you are going to post Crysis 1 screenshots then do it right. . ]RyviusARC

but thats not vanilla crysis.

still vanilla BF3 will look better than modded crysis

If the PS3 is limiting CoD games then so is the 360 since it isn't any better.

Where did he single out the PS3?

GD1551

Maybe because its the weaker of the two HD consoles?

*i disagree and think theyre wrong. just look at games like uncharted, killzone, resistance, godofwar and the list goes on. they're amazing. sledgebammer are not good theyre just lazy devs...*

we need to remember CoD is one of few console games that run at 60fps so there is not much devs can do with console hardware while mantaining that frame rate.

Harisemo

Maybe, but there's no reason for the game to run at 60 fps, especially when it isn't even locked at that anyway. The online is laggy as hell, so 60 fps doesn't make the game feel smoother when playing online.

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we need to remember CoD is one of few console games that run at 60fps so there is not much devs can do with console hardware while mantaining that frame rate.

Pug-Nasty

Maybe, but there's no reason for the game to run at 60 fps, especially when it isn't even locked at that anyway. The online is laggy as hell, so 60 fps doesn't make the game feel smoother when playing online.

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

You want to know what's limiting Call of Duty?

A two year development cycle, yearly releases, and an engine that is twelve years old.

DangerousLiquid

Yet, Call of Duty is evolving far faster than any other FPS on the planet. Hmm, strange... :o

Then how do they explain Crysis 2, a FPS that looks infinitely better graphically, has way more gameplay options, and has 20x bigger environments? No, I think the devs are just lazy.

Whether it be the HD DVD format of the Xbox 360, or the 256mb of system memory on the PS3, current consoles are becoming more of a challenge as time goes on and development teams have larger visions for their product.

Source is Playstationlifest.yle

Blazerdt47

Um...

Blazerdt47

This is why i play pc games....( and steam and mods and freedom ect ect ect)

Ace Combat Assault Horizon proves to me that both the 360 and PS3 can continue to push graphics.

] RyviusARC

How do i get sharks in Crysis? That looks awesome.

[QUOTE="RyviusARC"]What's with this Crysis vs BF3 argument? Both are at the top for best looking games. . . . BTW if you are going to post Crysis 1 screenshots then do it right. . ]lightleggy

but thats not vanilla crysis.

still vanilla BF3 will look better than modded crysis

Post pictures with in-game graphics.

Ancient console hardware holding back developers? Thank you captain obvious.