PS+ not required for Elder Scrolls online, XBL gold is

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#1 Posted by NoodleFighter (6945 posts) -

I bet cows will boast about how they don't need PS+ for a handful of online games

There’s some good news for Elder Scrolls fans looking forward to the series’ first MMO on PlayStation 4. Bethesda has confirmed that PlayStation Plus memberships will not be required for the subscription-based Elder Scrolls Online.

A Q&A on the EU PlayStation Blog answers the question definitively. “PS4 players will only be required to pay the same monthly subscription associated with The Elder Scrolls Online that PC and Mac users will pay — nothing more,” writes Zenimax Online Studios game director Matt Firor. The Elder Scrolls Online will cost $60 with a recurring $15 monthly subscription.

Because this news came out on the PlayStation Blog, we reached out to Bethesda for clarification. "Xbox One users will need an Xbox Gold subscription," a representative told us via email.

For more on the Elder Scrolls Online, check out recent trailers featuring group gameplay and the impressive voice cast. We’ve also got a journal covering the two hours we spent with the title at Gamescom and our cover story from June 2012.

The Elder Scrolls Online will be available on April 4 for PC and Mac. Xbox One and PlayStation 4 versions will come later this year.

#2 Posted by Dreams-Visions (26569 posts) -

Good for PlayStation 4 owners. Not that anyone is going to play ESOnline, but yea...this is how it should be. Too many things are locked behind the XBone paywall.

#3 Posted by R3FURBISHED (10067 posts) -

Our Take

For those that are only interested in online gaming for The Elder Scrolls Online, one platform is clearly less expensive. However, for those that are already members, the pricing is likely not a significant motivator. What is notable here is that Microsoft is setting firm guidelines around multiplayer. Microsoft will likely tell you that it is protecting value for paying Gold members. Whether you agree with that likely depends on if you are currently a member and interested in The Elder Scrolls Online.

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I like that ^^^^ that's on point.

#4 Posted by _Matt_ (8797 posts) -

waaaaait wait wait wait wait.

They are expecting $15 a month?! For every single month?! AND charging $60 up front?!

WHAAAA?

Wonder how long it will be before it goes free to play.

#5 Posted by Chutebox (36224 posts) -

Ya, there is no chance in hell I would ever pay for a MMO from this dev. They can't make a "regular" game without a shit load of bugs. Pass.

#6 Posted by CrownKingArthur (3808 posts) -

A Q&A on the EU PlayStation Blog answers the question definitively. “PS4 players will only be required to pay the same monthly subscription associated with The Elder Scrolls Online that PC and Mac users will pay — nothing more,” writes Zenimax Online Studios game director Matt Firor. The Elder Scrolls Online will cost $60 with a recurring $15 monthly subscription.

Because this news came out on the PlayStation Blog, we reached out to Bethesda for clarification. "Xbox One users will need an Xbox Gold subscription," a representative told us via email.

i need some clarification. do xbox live users pay the gold fee, and the $15/month subscription on top of it? because their phrasing is ambiguous. it sounds like xbox live gold users get in from the gold fee alone.

#7 Posted by silversix_ (13664 posts) -

If gold is required for IE you know their shit is messed up and will obviously be required for mmo's

#8 Posted by fueled-system (6229 posts) -

That is good I guess for those that will buy it but 60 dollars PLUS a 15 dollar monthly fee for this is ridiculous

#9 Posted by k2theswiss (16598 posts) -

who cares. anyone who cares about playing online in the slightest bit is already going to own psn or xbl.

not combineing the servers I think the consoles are going to die way to fast

#10 Edited by StormyJoe (4602 posts) -

@NoodleFighter:

That is kind of BS. But, at least MS is consistent when they say you need XBL Gold to play online.

Kudos to Sony for not doing that to its users. Although, I doubt anyone who gets ESO will *not* have PS+

#11 Posted by I_can_haz (6485 posts) -

Xboned experience. Paying more to get less.

#12 Edited by V3rciS (2207 posts) -

If true, that's fucking stupid... it's a goddamn MMORPG how can you ask people to have gold accounts on top for a game that already requires subscription.

#13 Posted by Draign (526 posts) -

I rather play DC Universe for free, sorry.

#14 Posted by k2theswiss (16598 posts) -

@Chutebox: the game isn't being made by beth like other elder scrolls. its being made by zenimax or something and they opened 07 and this will be their first game

#15 Posted by Chutebox (36224 posts) -

@Chutebox: the game isn't being made by beth like other elder scrolls. its being made by zenimax or something and they opened 07 and this will be their first game

Not sure if that's good or bad lol. We'll see. But glad Beth not touching it.

#16 Posted by Zophar87 (4337 posts) -

@V3rciS said:

If true, that's fucking stupid... it's a goddamn MMORPG how can you ask people to have gold accounts on top for a game that already requires subscription.

Microsoft and Sony both can dictate what is played on their own respective networks, it's as simple as that. This shouldn't surprise anybody since applications like Netflix have been behind Microsoft's pay wall for years now.

#17 Edited by starwolf474 (423 posts) -

I have no problem with the XBL Gold or PS+ fees; those fees are less than $5 a month and let you play many games online so they are well worth it.

The fee that I have a problem with is the ridiculous $15 a month fee just for this one single game; there is no way I'm paying that.

#18 Posted by NFJSupreme (5033 posts) -

Are cows really acting like they aren't forced into paying for online this Gen? You guys are in the exact same boat as lems in this regard. So elder scrolls online doesn't require ps+ but kill zone multiplayer does so what's your point?

#19 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (8171 posts) -

Why is Microsoft so adamant and anal about locking everything within a paywall? Even a free BBC player??? This pisses me off to no end. So many indie games weren't released on Xbox 360, including VERY OWN MICROSOFT EXCLUSIVES ONCE - 2 Oddworld games because of their MONEY-HUNGRY POLICIES!!!

#20 Posted by lhughey (4221 posts) -

Who cares? Every PS4 or Xbone owner plays mp games so you have to pay for online either way.

#21 Edited by NFJSupreme (5033 posts) -

@Salt_The_Fries: you act as if you have to pay for each of those games. It's a one time monthly fee that covers everything. Again why act like cows aren't forced into paying for online? Fact is this: if you want to be able to use your ps4 or xbone fully YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR Online. If not you have a gimped device with no online multiplayer for any if the games that you want online multiplayer on. This is fact for both devices not fanboy spin.

#22 Edited by Doom_HellKnight (12187 posts) -

Why is Microsoft so adamant and anal about locking everything within a paywall? Even a free BBC player??? This pisses me off to no end. So many indie games weren't released on Xbox 360, including VERY OWN MICROSOFT EXCLUSIVES ONCE - 2 Oddworld games because of their MONEY-HUNGRY POLICIES!!!

BBC iplayer is available to both Gold and Free users on XBL. They can't charge users for it, because of how the BBC operates. But yeah. Microsoft's forcing just about everything behind a paywall is ridiculous.

#23 Posted by Krelian-co (10091 posts) -

Already tired of copy pasting this but: TLHBO

#24 Posted by mems_1224 (45818 posts) -

lol subscription mmos lol

#25 Posted by The_Last_Ride (69146 posts) -

what the hell is this crap? Now there is a double paywall for something like this on X1? That is bs right there

#26 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (12848 posts) -

Free to play with cash shop within a year, I guarantee it.

#27 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (42539 posts) -

That's good. Although, I wouldn't buy it on a Playstation system. :p

#28 Edited by SolidTy (41589 posts) -

If I get this game, it would be PC...but I have no interest in this game at all. It really has to be something my friends like to even get my attention, and right now they don't care. I am not a big MMO person, but I will dabble from time to time. The problem is they are time sinks, and I would rather play a ton of games across genres that stick to a time sink MMO. Last one I played was Star Wars. These MMOs require $10-$15 to keep playing a month, what a rip off...in ESO case, $15 a month and YOU KNOW it's going to be buggy. I just don't have any desire to play it.

It's funny because the thing I liked about the Elder Scrolls series in the days of Everquest and Later World of Warcraft was that ES offered the MMO experience solo without the online fuss and muss and no extra fees. Now they want those monthly fees? C-ya.

@CrownKingArthur said:

A Q&A on the EU PlayStation Blog answers the question definitively. “PS4 players will only be required to pay the same monthly subscription associated with The Elder Scrolls Online that PC and Mac users will pay — nothing more,” writes Zenimax Online Studios game director Matt Firor. The Elder Scrolls Online will cost $60 with a recurring $15 monthly subscription.

Because this news came out on the PlayStation Blog, we reached out to Bethesda for clarification. "Xbox One users will need an Xbox Gold subscription," a representative told us via email.

i need some clarification. do xbox live users pay the gold fee, and the $15/month subscription on top of it? because their phrasing is ambiguous. it sounds like xbox live gold users get in from the gold fee alone.

MMOs in the past did not work like that on Xbox and this game should be no different. It's like Netflix, you pay Netflix their monies, and then you pay Xbox Live Gold on the side.

No matter what, Bethesda is going to want their money from the consumers (PC, PS4, Xbone) to maintain and upgrade their online game. Whether or not, Xbox Live Gold is on top of that fee is up to M$. PC and PS4 players apparently don't have an extra fee on top.

#29 Edited by Maddie_Larkin (6185 posts) -

Kind of outlines the lesser of those evils.

Maybe it is because Sony is in a posision where they NEED as many people to buy their system, that they aperrently allows for some games NOT to have to be behind a paywall (consumers allready paying ofcourse likely the cause) Aswell as the value afforded by PS+ in comparison.

From an objective point of view this is ofcourse good, that the Game dev would not have to be hit by a paywall, making them less interrested in releasing the game, no PS+ would be required, so it is a good thing all around.

Maybe Sony is scared of the same failure that was the PS3 launch. Maybe they have a different kind of breed behind decicion making then MS, which in turn is somewhat more connected to the consumers way of thinking, and relations between them and devs.

Either Case They are both two evils (XBL, PS+) it is rather interresting that one is making sure that it is tolerable, while the other has a very clear stern guideline.

#30 Posted by Locutus_Picard (3976 posts) -

Elder Scrolls Online confirmed $135 for 1 month of gameplay on XB1.

If it goes F2P, it will suddenly not be allowed on XB1 anymore?

#31 Posted by CrownKingArthur (3808 posts) -

@SolidTy: jeez. that's ghastly if they operate it like that.

hope your training is going well.

#32 Posted by jsmoke03 (12516 posts) -

everything online except for patching & trophies need xbl gold

#33 Posted by Heil68 (42720 posts) -

VALUE-->A hallmark of SONY.

#34 Posted by TwistedShade (3127 posts) -

I'll be shocked if this game retains a console player for a month, I hated the PC Beta certainly can't see it doing well on consoles.

#35 Edited by SolidTy (41589 posts) -

@SolidTy: jeez. that's ghastly if they operate it like that.

hope your training is going well.

I agree it is ghastly...and

Thank you, so far so good. :)

#36 Edited by betamaxx83 (351 posts) -

Why would anybody be surprised, it's MilkingSoft. They lock everything behind their paywall, they are the worst at milking their fan base.

#37 Posted by BlessedChill (676 posts) -
#38 Edited by sailor232 (4277 posts) -

Yeah who doesn't pay for a psn or live subscription that owns either system? must be in the low 2% or something. Only time I see this benefiting Ps4 owners is when the subscription ends after a year and you are waiting for pay day to get another, and can keep playing the game.

#39 Edited by PurpleMan5000 (6625 posts) -

Both of those consoles are very poor values if you aren't paying the online fees, anyway. If I were going to play the game, it would be on PC. I don't really like MMOs, though, and the idea of paying full price for a game + $15 per month has always been a huge turnoff for me.

#40 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (8611 posts) -

I though you needed PS+ to play any game online.

Doesn't matter though, $60 plus $15 subscription is a rip off anyway. Bethesda is getting ballsy and they have every right to be, since 20 million people forked over cash for that god awful Skyrim. So why wouldn't they push their luck ?

#41 Edited by Lulu_Lulu (8611 posts) -

Whoa Whoa Whoa ! Its 15 per month ? I thought it was annual. Thats a $180 a year, thats 3 games 4 if you include the initial 60.

#42 Posted by ShadowMoses900 (17081 posts) -

Suck... But the game doesn't look that good anyway.

#43 Posted by treedoor (7478 posts) -

I'd like to see the stats for console players who want to play this game, and have no intention of already subscribing to XBL or PS+

#44 Edited by The_Last_Ride (69146 posts) -

So this means that Elder Scrolls will cost 90 bucks the first month on X1 and 75 on PS4

#45 Edited by Lulu_Lulu (8611 posts) -

I think its strange that its actually Bethesda whos trying to suck you dry but yall are squabling over PS+ and XBL.

Bethesda must be in stitches !

#46 Edited by donalbane (16147 posts) -

May people will act surprised by this, though it's news to exactly nobody.

#47 Edited by Shielder7 (4738 posts) -

Good for PlayStation 4 owners. Not that anyone is going to play ESOnline, but yea...this is how it should be. Too many things are locked behind the XBone paywall.

Pretty much this. Subscription MMOs are going the way of the dinosaur, I can see it selling like hot cakes like TOR did and as soon as everyones month is up it will die down and either go FTP or just die. No Elder scrolls fan wanted an MMO, Co-Op maybe but not an MMO so I don't see many Elder Scrolls fans jumping on board for very long.

#48 Posted by Jankarcop (8827 posts) -

This is going to be terrible on consoles, the PC version supports full LUA modding and the player count won't cause as many problems.

Best on PC - the multiplat motto.

#49 Posted by tormentos (16542 posts) -

Are cows really acting like they aren't forced into paying for online this Gen? You guys are in the exact same boat as lems in this regard. So elder scrolls online doesn't require ps+ but kill zone multiplayer does so what's your point?

No one is acting like that but your are a moron who took it that way,putting this game under live gold scheme is stupid,but this is MS who has make lemming pay for netflix and even Internet Explorer,there is no justification for this and hiding on PSN+ been need it to play online is a joke.

At least with PSN+ you get your money back and them some.

Also free to play games don't require PSN+ either,this thread is not about Killzone is about skyrim nice DC dude.

#50 Posted by NFJSupreme (5033 posts) -

@NFJSupreme said:

Are cows really acting like they aren't forced into paying for online this Gen? You guys are in the exact same boat as lems in this regard. So elder scrolls online doesn't require ps+ but kill zone multiplayer does so what's your point?

No one is acting like that but your are a moron who took it that way,putting this game under live gold scheme is stupid,but this is MS who has make lemming pay for netflix and even Internet Explorer,there is no justification for this and hiding on PSN+ been need it to play online is a joke.

At least with PSN+ you get your money back and them some.

Also free to play games don't require PSN+ either,this thread is not about Killzone is about skyrim nice DC dude.

why do you even bother replying to me? It's like you are desperate to win just one argument with me. You keep quoting me when I'm not even talking to you. I'm sure this forum has an ignore feature. It's time i use it.