Power difference between Wii U and Xbox One same as PS4 n Xbox (56K NOOOO)

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#1 Posted by xboxiphoneps3 (2290 posts) -

does anyone else find it a little dissapointing and sad as a gamer/tech enthuiast that the power difference between the Wii U and Xbox None is the same as the difference between PS4 and Xbox None? the Xbox one is a generational leap from the Wii U itself, and the PS4 is another "generational" leap over the Xbox one


Xbox One OS uses 10% GPU power, so 90% of GPU power is used for gaming, so 1.23 teraflops down to 1.1 teraflops for gaming 

1.84 teraflops vs 1.1 teraflops (for gaming)= 740 gigaflop difference (PS4 vs Xbone)

1.1 teraflops vs 360 gigaflops for Wii U GPU= 745 gigaflop difference


doesnt feel like a next generation leap with the new Xbox coming out...man im just dissapointed as as a gamer because the One doesnt even have any games really coming out for it....really like Project Sparks and Killer Instinct are like going to be basically your best launch lineup games? LOL... i actually remember watching E3 with my brother and seeing these games like Project Sparks and KI being showed and we were both laughing our asses off saying "is this a joke?"



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its sad, because im a huge Halo fan, and i actually liked some of the games Microsoft had put out.... and i actually liked the 360 alot and what Microsoft had provided for it,i think 360 is a little better then PS3... but its just kind of sad seeing Microsoft being like this and doing what their doing.... defitnetly not the same company they were back in late 2005... sigh..... its a shame they had to go this way... Everyone was such in a rush for the next gen consoles coming out and everyone being so impatient and see what happens when you rush Microsoft?!?!? 

#2 Posted by Demonjoe93 (9523 posts) -

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#3 Posted by clyde46 (44827 posts) -
He mad yo.
#4 Posted by xboxiphoneps3 (2290 posts) -
He mad yo.clyde46
im cool as a cucumber bro, just stating facts thats all
#5 Posted by clyde46 (44827 posts) -
[QUOTE="clyde46"]He mad yo.xboxiphoneps3
im cool as a cucumber bro, just stating facts thats all

Facts? I see no facts in this thread. Well, apart from the fact that is TC sucks.
#7 Posted by Indicud (739 posts) -

does anyone else find it a little dissapointing and sad as a gamer/tech enthuiast that the power difference between the Wii U and Xbox None is smaller then the difference between PS4 and Xbox None? 


doesnt feel like a next generation leap with the new Xbox coming out...man im just dissapointed as as a gamer because the One doesnt even have any games really coming out for it....really like Project Sparks and Killer Instinct are like going to be basically your best launch lineup games? LOL... i actually remember watching E3 with my brother and seeing these games like Project Sparks and KI being showed and we were both laughing our asses off saying "is this a joke?"



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its sad, because im a huge Halo fan, and i actually liked some of the games Microsoft had put out.... and i actually liked the 360 alot and what Microsoft had provided for it,i think 360 is a little better then PS3... but its just kind of sad seeing Microsoft being like this and doing what their doing.... defitnetly not the same company they were back in late 2005... sigh..... its a shame they had to go this way... Everyone was such in a rush for the next gen consoles coming out and everyone being so impatient and see what happens when you rush Microsoft?!?!? 

xboxiphoneps3
QFT
#8 Posted by xboxiphoneps3 (2290 posts) -
[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="clyde46"]He mad yo.clyde46
im cool as a cucumber bro, just stating facts thats all

Facts? I see no facts in this thread. Well, apart from the fact that is TC sucks.

1.84 teraflops vs 1.1 teraflops= 740 gigaflop difference (PS4 vs Xbone) 1.1 teraflops vs 480 gigaflops for Wii U GPU= 620 gigaflop difference
#9 Posted by Indicud (739 posts) -
[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] im cool as a cucumber bro, just stating facts thats all

Facts? I see no facts in this thread. Well, apart from the fact that is TC sucks.

1.84 teraflops vs 1.1 teraflops= 740 gigaflop difference (PS4 vs Xbone) 1.1 teraflops vs 480 gigaflops for Wii U GPU= 620 gigaflop difference

:cool: owned.
#10 Posted by clyde46 (44827 posts) -
[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] im cool as a cucumber bro, just stating facts thats all

Facts? I see no facts in this thread. Well, apart from the fact that is TC sucks.

1.84 teraflops vs 1.1 teraflops= 740 gigaflop difference (PS4 vs Xbone) 1.1 teraflops vs 480 gigaflops for Wii U GPU= 620 gigaflop difference

Flops mean everything right guys?
#11 Posted by psymon100 (6138 posts) -

does anyone else find it a little dissapointing and sad as a gamer/tech enthuiast that the power difference between the Wii U and Xbox None is smaller then the difference between PS4 and Xbox None? 

xboxiphoneps3

Where did you learn this?

#12 Posted by xboxiphoneps3 (2290 posts) -
[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="clyde46"]He mad yo.clyde46
im cool as a cucumber bro, just stating facts thats all

Facts? I see no facts in this thread. Well, apart from the fact that is TC sucks.

theres your facts buddy
#14 Posted by Indicud (739 posts) -
[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Facts? I see no facts in this thread. Well, apart from the fact that is TC sucks.

1.84 teraflops vs 1.1 teraflops= 740 gigaflop difference (PS4 vs Xbone) 1.1 teraflops vs 480 gigaflops for Wii U GPU= 620 gigaflop difference

Flops mean everything right guys?

nice cop out
#15 Posted by xboxiphoneps3 (2290 posts) -

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]

does anyone else find it a little dissapointing and sad as a gamer/tech enthuiast that the power difference between the Wii U and Xbox None is smaller then the difference between PS4 and Xbox None? 

psymon100

Where did you learn this?

1.84 teraflop vs 1.1 teraflop - 740 gigaflop difference in GPU power (ps4 vs xbone) 1.1 teraflop vs 480 gigaflops=620 gigaflop difference (xbone vs Wii U)
#16 Posted by rjdofu (9170 posts) -

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Demonjoe93
#17 Posted by razgriz_101 (16871 posts) -
power doesnt mean everything, history should have taught us this.Were we born yesterday people.
#18 Posted by clyde46 (44827 posts) -
[QUOTE="Indicud"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] 1.84 teraflops vs 1.1 teraflops= 740 gigaflop difference (PS4 vs Xbone) 1.1 teraflops vs 480 gigaflops for Wii U GPU= 620 gigaflop difference

Flops mean everything right guys?

nice cop out

Cop out? On paper he is correct however we have yet to seen actual evidence of this. There is too many bullshots and bullvids being put out by all 3 companies to make a valid and unbiased view.
#19 Posted by bbkkristian (14940 posts) -
Tooooooooo loooooooonnnnnggggg....... ... .... ..... ... . I did read.
#20 Posted by Indicud (739 posts) -
[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Indicud"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Flops mean everything right guys?

nice cop out

Cop out? On paper he is correct however we have yet to seen actual evidence of this. There is too many bullshots and bullvids being put out by all 3 companies to make a valid and unbiased view.

QFT
#21 Posted by xboxiphoneps3 (2290 posts) -
power doesnt mean everything, history should have taught us this.Were we born yesterday people.razgriz_101
Sony's development enviroment is months ahead of Xbones, Sony has more games in active development then Microsoft Sony's first parties are much better then Microsoft's tons of developers praise the PS4 while very little praised the Xbox One.. yep, i can totally see where the PS4 is going and where the One is going.. choice is obvious... PS4
#22 Posted by nyzma23 (916 posts) -

LOL you try so hard tc believe me just let it go

#23 Posted by psymon100 (6138 posts) -

[QUOTE="psymon100"]

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]

does anyone else find it a little dissapointing and sad as a gamer/tech enthuiast that the power difference between the Wii U and Xbox None is smaller then the difference between PS4 and Xbox None? 

xboxiphoneps3

Where did you learn this?

1.84 teraflop vs 1.1 teraflop - 740 gigaflop difference in GPU power (ps4 vs xbone) 1.1 teraflop vs 480 gigaflops=620 gigaflop difference (xbone vs Wii U)

Would be interesting at the end of the gen to compare the visuals of the 'best' PS4 game with the 'best' Wii U game. 1.84 / 0.48 = 3.83x more flops. I suppose this means if Watch_dogs (for example) were in 720p30 on Wii U, PS4 should have the capacity for 1080p60. Twice the frames, 2.25x the pixels. Firepower lines up fairly evenly I guess. 

#24 Posted by xboxiphoneps3 (2290 posts) -
[QUOTE="Indicud"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Indicud"] nice cop out

Cop out? On paper he is correct however we have yet to seen actual evidence of this. There is too many bullshots and bullvids being put out by all 3 companies to make a valid and unbiased view.

QFT

man they both have the same APU.. its not like were comparing a nvidia vs ati with cell vs xenos, both these consoles have basically same hardware its just that PS4 is noticeably stronger, SO YOU CAN look at paper specs and get a great idea of what youll get in the real world GCN vs GCN Jaguar vs Jaguar more cpu cores and ram available for PS4 on board ARM chip to handle OS and Background load 740 gigaflops more GPU power of the same architecture (GCN)
#25 Posted by Indicud (739 posts) -

[QUOTE="Indicud"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Cop out? On paper he is correct however we have yet to seen actual evidence of this. There is too many bullshots and bullvids being put out by all 3 companies to make a valid and unbiased view.xboxiphoneps3
QFT

QFT man they both have the same APU.. its not like were comparing a nvidia vs ati with cell vs xenos, both these consoles have basically same hardware its just that PS4 is noticeably stronger, SO YOU CAN look at paper specs and get a great idea of what youll get in the real world GCN vs GCN Jaguar vs Jaguar more cpu cores and ram available for PS4 on board ARM chip to handle OS and Background load 740 gigaflops more GPU power of the same architecture (GCN)

QFT

#26 Posted by xboxiphoneps3 (2290 posts) -

LOL you try so hard tc believe me just let it go

nyzma23
its not hard at all when your stating facts, lying is a different story ... THATS HARD, but i simply am just stating facts.. no consolite should get offended (lemmings and sheeps)
#28 Posted by psymon100 (6138 posts) -

[QUOTE="Indicud"]:lol:^999

22Toothpicks

Damn, looking at that hurts. >_

Well, if it's any consolation, it was probably one of their last posts. After all, they have quite recently uploaded some family photos. Unfortunately mods will probably consider them a porn suicide thread. 

#29 Posted by razgriz_101 (16871 posts) -
[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]power doesnt mean everything, history should have taught us this.Were we born yesterday people.xboxiphoneps3
Sony's development enviroment is months ahead of Xbones, Sony has more games in active development then Microsoft Sony's first parties are much better then Microsoft's tons of developers praise the PS4 while very little praised the Xbox One.. yep, i can totally see where the PS4 is going and where the One is going.. choice is obvious... PS4

those are beneficial factors but i wouldnt count all my chickens yet, we've seen it before and no doubt see it again someone or something always upsets the balance.
#30 Posted by SonySoldier-_- (717 posts) -

I expected screen shot comparisons between Wii U and XB1 exclusives in this thread.

#31 Posted by masterninja9 (140 posts) -

The Wii U is around 600Gflops

Wii U - 600

X1- 1.2Tflops

PS4- 1.84Tflops

#32 Posted by xboxiphoneps3 (2290 posts) -
[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]power doesnt mean everything, history should have taught us this.Were we born yesterday people.razgriz_101
Sony's development enviroment is months ahead of Xbones, Sony has more games in active development then Microsoft Sony's first parties are much better then Microsoft's tons of developers praise the PS4 while very little praised the Xbox One.. yep, i can totally see where the PS4 is going and where the One is going.. choice is obvious... PS4

those are beneficial factors but i wouldnt count all my chickens yet, we've seen it before and no doubt see it again someone or something always upsets the balance.

i just love Sony's approach on this upcoming generation, their train of thought and approach to everything on the upcoming generation appeals to me so much, theyre all about the gamers and they are doing whatever it takes, a drastic difference from the PS3 era
#33 Posted by Kaz_Son (797 posts) -
TLHBO.
#34 Posted by xboxiphoneps3 (2290 posts) -

The Wii U is around 600Gflops

Wii U - 600

X1- 1.2Tflops

PS4- 1.84Tflops

masterninja9

not true at all, Wii U gpu comparable to HD 4650/4670 which has around what i said, actually Wii U gpu is clocked lower then those

 

Wii u is about 400-500 gigaflops

 

320 Steam processors clocked at 500 mhz for the Wii U

#35 Posted by Ribnarak (2293 posts) -

have the mods banned this indicud loser yet?

#36 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (13375 posts) -

Aw c'mon internet explorer isn't that bad.

#37 Posted by kingtito (4853 posts) -
[QUOTE="razgriz_101"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] Sony's development enviroment is months ahead of Xbones, Sony has more games in active development then Microsoft Sony's first parties are much better then Microsoft's tons of developers praise the PS4 while very little praised the Xbox One.. yep, i can totally see where the PS4 is going and where the One is going.. choice is obvious... PS4xboxiphoneps3
those are beneficial factors but i wouldnt count all my chickens yet, we've seen it before and no doubt see it again someone or something always upsets the balance.

i just love Sony's approach on this upcoming generation, their train of thought and approach to everything on the upcoming generation appeals to me so much, theyre all about the gamers and they are doing whatever it takes, a drastic difference from the PS3 era

You idiot, there train of thought is the same with the PS3 minus the high launch price. The only other notable is the charging for online now. The PS4 did nothing but add more powerful hardware, that's it. They didn't add anything except now you ge to p2p online. You ought to try being objective for once
#38 Posted by ronvalencia (15109 posts) -

8790M has 652.8 to 691 GFLOPS (via GCN 6 CU, 384 stream prcoessors).

7670M has 576 GFLOPS (via VLIW5 6 CU, 480 stream prcoessors).

Both GPUs has 128bit GDDR5 memory.

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Wii U's GPU uses the Radeon HD with VLIW5 designs.

8790M about 2.3X faster than 7670M

#39 Posted by xboxiphoneps3 (2290 posts) -
[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"] those are beneficial factors but i wouldnt count all my chickens yet, we've seen it before and no doubt see it again someone or something always upsets the balance.kingtito
i just love Sony's approach on this upcoming generation, their train of thought and approach to everything on the upcoming generation appeals to me so much, theyre all about the gamers and they are doing whatever it takes, a drastic difference from the PS3 era

You idiot, there train of thought is the same with the PS3 minus the high launch price. The only other notable is the charging for online now. The PS4 did nothing but add more powerful hardware, that's it. They didn't add anything except now you ge to p2p online. You ought to try being objective for once

or the fact that the PS4 is now the complete opposite of PS3, thounsands of times easier to develop for, sony development environment months ahead of Microsofts, Sony going to the developers them self and getting all their opinions on what they should do and really taking their opinions into consideration, its acutally a different Sony this time around compared to PS3 launch era... have you been hiding under a rock past few months bro?
#40 Posted by super600 (30277 posts) -

What a terrible troll thread. And the power difference between the xbox one and wiiu is larger than the power difference between the xbox one and ps4.Also the wiiu gpu gflops is not 480gflops.

#41 Posted by xboxiphoneps3 (2290 posts) -

8790M has 652.8 to 691 GFLOPS (via GCN 6 CU, 384 stream prcoessors).

7670M has 576 GFLOPS (via VLIW5 6 CU, 480 stream prcoessors).

bf3ultra.png

Wii U's GPU uses the Radeon HD with VLIW5 designs.

ronvalencia
yep, 320 stream processors clocked at 500 mhz for Wii U, roughly about 400-500 gigaflops of GPU power
#42 Posted by super600 (30277 posts) -

The Wii U is around 600Gflops

Wii U - 600

X1- 1.2Tflops

PS4- 1.84Tflops

masterninja9

The WiiU's gpu is between 160gflops and 352gflops.No one knows the exact number, but most theories point to 352gflops.

#43 Posted by TheWalkingGhost (5117 posts) -
[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] im cool as a cucumber bro, just stating facts thats all

Facts? I see no facts in this thread. Well, apart from the fact that is TC sucks.

1.84 teraflops vs 1.1 teraflops= 740 gigaflop difference (PS4 vs Xbone) 1.1 teraflops vs 480 gigaflops for Wii U GPU= 620 gigaflop difference

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/game/3452022/ps4-vs-xbox-one-comparison-review/ The Xbox One is 1.23 TFlops not 1.1. Finding the WiiU's power is a bit more difficult. But 352 GFlops seems like a valid number, not 480. http://asia.cnet.com/ps4-vs-xbox-360-vs-wii-u-62220533.htm http://www.buzzle.com/articles/battle-of-the-consoles-ps4-vs-wii-u-vs-xbox360.html
#44 Posted by xboxiphoneps3 (2290 posts) -
[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Facts? I see no facts in this thread. Well, apart from the fact that is TC sucks.

1.84 teraflops vs 1.1 teraflops= 740 gigaflop difference (PS4 vs Xbone) 1.1 teraflops vs 480 gigaflops for Wii U GPU= 620 gigaflop difference

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/game/3452022/ps4-vs-xbox-one-comparison-review/ The Xbox One is 1.23 TFlops not 1.1. Finding the WiiU's power is a bit more difficult. But 352 GFlops seems like a valid number, not 480. http://asia.cnet.com/ps4-vs-xbox-360-vs-wii-u-62220533.htm http://www.buzzle.com/articles/battle-of-the-consoles-ps4-vs-wii-u-vs-xbox360.html

10% of GPU power for Xbone is reserved for OS, so 1.1 teraflops for Xbone GPU
#45 Posted by TheWalkingGhost (5117 posts) -
[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Facts? I see no facts in this thread. Well, apart from the fact that is TC sucks.

1.84 teraflops vs 1.1 teraflops= 740 gigaflop difference (PS4 vs Xbone) 1.1 teraflops vs 480 gigaflops for Wii U GPU= 620 gigaflop difference

Flops mean everything right guys?

In all fairness his numbers are wrong and this is a troll thread. (You're still an a$$)
#46 Posted by Gargus (2147 posts) -

bring_me_another_smurf_meme.jpg.

#47 Posted by xboxiphoneps3 (2290 posts) -
[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] 1.84 teraflops vs 1.1 teraflops= 740 gigaflop difference (PS4 vs Xbone) 1.1 teraflops vs 480 gigaflops for Wii U GPU= 620 gigaflop difference

Flops mean everything right guys?

In all fairness his numbers are wrong and this is a troll thread. (You're still an a$$)

ok so prove me wrong? how are my numbers wrong? NeoGAF and others have said Wii U gpu power ranges from 4-500 gigaflops
#48 Posted by xboxiphoneps3 (2290 posts) -
[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] 1.84 teraflops vs 1.1 teraflops= 740 gigaflop difference (PS4 vs Xbone) 1.1 teraflops vs 480 gigaflops for Wii U GPU= 620 gigaflop difference

Flops mean everything right guys?

In all fairness his numbers are wrong and this is a troll thread. (You're still an a$$)

why is it a troll thread? am i not presenting facts? thats all im doing, dont take this thread or plastic boxes that play games too seriously....
#49 Posted by Tessellation (8797 posts) -
He mad yo.clyde46
#50 Posted by TheWalkingGhost (5117 posts) -
[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] 1.84 teraflops vs 1.1 teraflops= 740 gigaflop difference (PS4 vs Xbone) 1.1 teraflops vs 480 gigaflops for Wii U GPU= 620 gigaflop difference

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/game/3452022/ps4-vs-xbox-one-comparison-review/ The Xbox One is 1.23 TFlops not 1.1. Finding the WiiU's power is a bit more difficult. But 352 GFlops seems like a valid number, not 480. http://asia.cnet.com/ps4-vs-xbox-360-vs-wii-u-62220533.htm http://www.buzzle.com/articles/battle-of-the-consoles-ps4-vs-wii-u-vs-xbox360.html

10% of GPU power for Xbone is reserved for OS, so 1.1 teraflops for Xbone GPU

You're cute. I love how you ignore the same could be applied to the other systems. But nobody believes you, as you have yet to provide one single source for your logic. And regardless if it's reserved for the OS or not, that is still the power of the GPU.