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#1  Edited By FPSfan1985
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No wonder Nvidia passed on the consoles.

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#2 kraken2109
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Nice

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#3 PannicAtack
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More League of Legends viewers than the Stanley Cup? Damn...

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#4 TheEroica  Moderator
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Thats because not only is it more powerful by quite a margin, but it's also becoming very accessible... I'm a believer.

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#5 freedomfreak
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Stronk. That's like a pronunciation thingk.

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#6  Edited By Jankarcop
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I've been saying this for years.

There are more steam concurrent than xbl and psn peak concurrent COMBINED!.

There are more LOL or WoW than xbl and psn concurrent. ONE GAME more than all console online.

Its insane.

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#7  Edited By glez13
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What the hell is this?

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#8  Edited By SteXmaN
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o7

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It's time for a sacrifice, my brothers

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#10  Edited By GarGx1
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Nah! PC gaming died 5 years ago, it's only people playing Facebook browser games and MMO's don't count. What does that leave it with? crappy RTS's!

It's a pity sarcasm doesn't really work in text ;)

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#11 lawlessx
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@PannicAtack said:

More League of Legends viewers than the Stanley Cup? Damn...

yeah that's something to think about..E-sports have come a long way

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#12  Edited By LordOfPoms
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@PannicAtack said:

More League of Legends viewers than the Stanley Cup? Damn...

Yeah, that stat is total bull because Nielsen ratings are infamous for being under representative of their audiences, as well as it doesn't capture international data. It also doesn't take into account that a LoL tourney runs across 3 days where the Stanley Cup Finals runs across 2 weeks and potentially 7 games, while maintaining that high audience. That's not to put down LoL though -- it has a great draw and no game comes close to meeting it outside of DOTA 2 --, but when they compare viewership to traditional sports, it's always laughable.

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#13 psymon100
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Very good thread. Short. Sharp. To the point.

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#14  Edited By lawlessx
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@LordOfPoms said:

@PannicAtack said:

More League of Legends viewers than the Stanley Cup? Damn...

Yeah, that stat is total bull because Nielsen ratings are infamous for being under representative of their audiences, as well as it doesn't capture international data. It also doesn't take into account that a LoL tourney runs across 3 days where the Stanley Cup Finals runs across 2 weeks and potentially 7 games, while maintaining that high audience. That's not to put down LoL though -- it has a great draw and no game comes close to meeting it outside of DOTA 2 --, but when they compare viewership to traditional sports, it's always laughable.

But it says it was the stanley Final...wouldn't that mean they're referring to the last game in the finals?

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#15  Edited By deactivated-5afcc99c5544f
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Apparently the Raiders are as well, why should anyone take your word?

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#16 lightleggy
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@freedomfreak said:

Stronk. That's like a pronunciation thingk.

It's a play on a League of Legends' character quotes.

"Mundo too stronk for you!".

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#17  Edited By LordOfPoms
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@lawlessx said:

@LordOfPoms said:

@PannicAtack said:

More League of Legends viewers than the Stanley Cup? Damn...

Yeah, that stat is total bull because Nielsen ratings are infamous for being under representative of their audiences, as well as it doesn't capture international data. It also doesn't take into account that a LoL tourney runs across 3 days where the Stanley Cup Finals runs across 2 weeks and potentially 7 games, while maintaining that high audience. That's not to put down LoL though -- it has a great draw and no game comes close to meeting it outside of DOTA 2 --, but when they compare viewership to traditional sports, it's always laughable.

But it says it was the stanley Final...wouldn't that mean they're referring to the last game in the finals?

We don't know, the graphic is ambiguous for a reason, the same reason they don't mention that a typical weekly NHL game on NBC Sunday's draws 1-2 million while League only draws that for major tournaments. That's not to say it's impossible for LOL to get a traditional sports audience. It certainly can for things like Worlds, but remember that even a non-finals playoff game can draw massive audiences in Round 1 (such as Penguins versus Boston, or Montreal versus New York, etc), audiences larger than LOL does for it's finals.

Concerning just the Cup Finals, if you combined the Canadian, US and European audiences for the Cup Finals (yes, Russia watches), it would be pretty massive, although US-wise LOL could potentially beat it. Hockey doesn't always go over well in the US if the teams aren't from hockey hotbeds such as Boston, Minnesota, New York or the Atlantic. Unfortunately, gathering TV-watching data is archaic and rarely gives you a picture of total viewers whereas stream viewers is much easier.

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#18 clyde46
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PC gaming is becoming more and more accessible to everyone. Given that the latest APU's and intergrated graphics chips in the new Intel chips are capable of running most 7th gens at medium settings, more and more people are able to game on their PC's.

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#19  Edited By treedoor
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It's the most accessible platform to game on, so these numbers are not surprising.

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#20 psymon100
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@clyde46 said:

PC gaming is becoming more and more accessible to everyone. Given that the latest APU's and intergrated graphics chips in the new Intel chips are capable of running most 7th gens at medium settings, more and more people are able to game on their PC's.

God. It's amazing what graphics can be included integrated onto the same bit of silicon as the CPU. Also, Intel - their graphics have come a long way. Pretty much entry level, but I'm still suitably impressed.

Clyde, I got a question for you man. On this forum I find you impartial / neutral, but lately I've noticed a lot of people calling you a lemming. Why? Why would people get an idea like that in their head?

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#21  Edited By clyde46
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@psymon100 said:

@clyde46 said:

PC gaming is becoming more and more accessible to everyone. Given that the latest APU's and intergrated graphics chips in the new Intel chips are capable of running most 7th gens at medium settings, more and more people are able to game on their PC's.

God. It's amazing what graphics can be included integrated onto the same bit of silicon as the CPU. Also, Intel - their graphics have come a long way. Pretty much entry level, but I'm still suitably impressed.

Clyde, I got a question for you man. On this forum I find you impartial / neutral, but lately I've noticed a lot of people calling you a lemming. Why? Why would people get an idea like that in their head?

Because I call Cows out on their BS. It seems they don't like that :P

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#22  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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PC gaming seems to be getting stronger each year. I believe as gamers get older they want a more mature platform that they have a greater degree of control over and a larger library to choose from.

The PC is the only logical platform for a long-time gamer. Consoles can be bought and played but they can never replace the gaming experience one gets from a gaming PC.

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#23  Edited By psymon100
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@clyde46 said:

Because I call Cows out on their BS. It seems they don't like that :P

I wondered if that was all it took :p

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#24  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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I've the feeling most of those million PC "gamers" are included on the flash games/MMO only players

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#25 Gue1
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good to see the RTS and F2P games are even more popular than ever on the PC environment. ;)

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#26  Edited By danjammer69
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@clyde46 said:

@psymon100 said:

@clyde46 said:

PC gaming is becoming more and more accessible to everyone. Given that the latest APU's and intergrated graphics chips in the new Intel chips are capable of running most 7th gens at medium settings, more and more people are able to game on their PC's.

God. It's amazing what graphics can be included integrated onto the same bit of silicon as the CPU. Also, Intel - their graphics have come a long way. Pretty much entry level, but I'm still suitably impressed.

Clyde, I got a question for you man. On this forum I find you impartial / neutral, but lately I've noticed a lot of people calling you a lemming. Why? Why would people get an idea like that in their head?

Because I call Cows out on their BS. It seems they don't like that :P

Do you also call out Lems on their BS as well?

Not trying to be a smartass, as you are one the better posters on GS. Just wondering if you keep things on an even level.

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#27 clyde46
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I've the feeling most of those million PC "gamers" are included on the flash games/MMO only players

People who play MMO's aren't consider gamers now? I guess going by that logic that people who bought a PS3 for its Blu-Ray player aren't allowed to be counted in console sales....

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#28  Edited By treedoor
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@clyde46 said:

@Vatusus said:

I've the feeling most of those million PC "gamers" are included on the flash games/MMO only players

People who play MMO's aren't consider gamers now? I guess going by that logic that people who bought a PS3 for its Blu-Ray player aren't allowed to be counted in console sales....

Nor should the 20+ million Kinect owners, or the 20 million people who only play CoD.

And don't even get me started on the Nintendo Wii. Wii Sports gamers are not REAL gamers like us >:(

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#29  Edited By Jankarcop
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Ahh, the old "MMO" dont count.

Even though they

1. Have more gameplay and content than most console genres.

2. Higher skillcap than 99% of console genres. Resulting in real competitive scenes, something consoles do not have.

3. More difficult content. Period. (not including PVP, see #2)

Well then most Wii and other motion games, CoD type games, Kinect games, and Movie-Games don't count either. Oops there goes 50% of console sales.

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#30 lawlessx
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@Vatusus said:

I've the feeling most of those million PC "gamers" are included on the flash games/MMO only players

people that play MMOs aren't gamers? really?

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#31 Ribnarak
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just built a gaming pc. its so easy to build. and its A LOT more convenient than what people actually believe.

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#32  Edited By Sushiglutton
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Interesting to see how much more aggresively Nvidia will market PC-gaming this gen as they have no stake at all in the consoles. Wonder what they can achieve together with Valve.

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#33 clyde46
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@Jankarcop said:

Ahh, the old "MMO" dont count.

Even though they

1. Have more gameplay and content than most console genres.

2. Higher skillcap than 99% of console genres. Resulting in real competitive scenes, something consoles do not have.

3. More difficult content. Period. (not including PVP, see #2)

Well then most Wii and other motion games, CoD type games, Kinect games, and Movie-Games don't count either. Oops there goes 50% of console sales.

MMO's are considered difficult now? Lawl.

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#34 lostrib
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I wonder where they got these numbers from. Also, CoD BLOPS 2 is a terrible example

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#35  Edited By lx_theo
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Forever the stronkiest

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#36 NameIess_One
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@Vatusus said:

I've the feeling most of those million PC "gamers" are included on the flash games/MMO only players

That may be the case, but they still contribute to the overall PC market. And MMO... well, expect for it to be a pretty major genre on next gen consoles... just take a look at the PS4 launch line-up...

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Oh, and I accidentally clicked "Flag" on your post, is this the new kind of reporting?

If any mod sees this, it was a mistake... and reporting shouldn't involve only one click, especially with the option so close to "Quote".

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#37  Edited By Jankarcop
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@Gue1 said:

good to see the RTS and F2P games are even more popular than ever on the PC environment. ;)

Count the genres: Get destroyed.

  1. Watch Dogs
  2. AC4
  3. BF4
  4. CoD: Ghosts
  5. Cyberpunk 2077 (no specific release for next-gen consoles)
  6. FFXIV: ARR (catching up with PC version)
  7. Thief 4
  8. The Division
  9. The Witcher 3
  10. Doom4
  11. TESO
  12. TitanFall
  13. Dragon Age 3
  14. Mass Effect 4
  15. EQ:Next
  16. Planetside 2
  17. Deus Ex World
  18. Dark Souls 2
  19. The Evil Within
  20. Wolfenstein
  21. The Witness
  22. Tom Clancy's Rainbow 6 - Patriots
  23. Star Citizen
  24. Diablo3 Expansion
  25. SC2 Expansion
  26. Galactic Civ 3
  27. Project Eternity
  28. Divinity Original Sin
  29. WasteLand 2
  30. Sims4
  31. CNC3
  32. Path of Exile
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#38 Cyberdot
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Not surprising.

The PC is a very convenient platform that opens the door to superior gaming experience, so people are turning their backs on consoles.

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#39 lawlessx
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@Jankarcop said:

@Gue1 said:

good to see the RTS and F2P games are even more popular than ever on the PC environment. ;)

Count the genres: Get destroyed.

  1. Watch Dogs
  2. AC4
  3. BF4
  4. CoD: Ghosts
  5. Cyberpunk 2077 (no specific release for next-gen consoles)
  6. FFXIV: ARR (catching up with PC version)
  7. Thief 4
  8. The Division
  9. The Witcher 3
  10. Doom4
  11. TESO
  12. TitanFall
  13. Dragon Age 3
  14. Mass Effect 4
  15. EQ:Next
  16. Planetside 2
  17. Deus Ex World
  18. Dark Souls 2
  19. The Evil Within
  20. Wolfenstein
  21. The Witness
  22. Tom Clancy's Rainbow 6 - Patriots
  23. Star Citizen
  24. Diablo3 Expansion
  25. SC2 Expansion
  26. Galactic Civ 3
  27. Project Eternity
  28. Divinity Original Sin
  29. WasteLand 2
  30. Sims4
  31. CNC3
  32. Path of Exile

do you just assume every post about PC is negative?

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#40 Jankarcop
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Not going to read unless you can refute me.

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#41  Edited By NameIess_One
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@lawlessx said:

do you just assume every post about PC is negative?

Well, it was a negative in this case, he's a cow, and cows aren't really known for the PC love (aside from when they're hiding behind it)! :P

They'll change their tune as F2P becomes more and more prevalent on consoles, though.

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#42  Edited By Dequan1233
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Woot pc gaming FTW!

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I wanna frame that goddamn thing.

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#44 GhoX
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@LordOfPoms said:

@PannicAtack said:

More League of Legends viewers than the Stanley Cup? Damn...

Yeah, that stat is total bull because Nielsen ratings are infamous for being under representative of their audiences, as well as it doesn't capture international data. It also doesn't take into account that a LoL tourney runs across 3 days where the Stanley Cup Finals runs across 2 weeks and potentially 7 games, while maintaining that high audience. That's not to put down LoL though -- it has a great draw and no game comes close to meeting it outside of DOTA 2 --, but when they compare viewership to traditional sports, it's always laughable.

One is a heavily localised sport, while the other is a completely international e-sport. Personally I've never heard of Stanley Cup until this thread, but then again a lot of people don't really pay attention to ice hockey, or have even seen ice hockey before. More widespread sports like soccer will of course attract more viewers.

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@Vatusus: So people who play MMO aren't gamers nice logic there but honestly someone like kinda lacked it in the first place

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#46  Edited By millerlight89
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Too bad most of those PC gamers in China and India are pirates.

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#47 cain006
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Wow, Call of duty has made more than the Bond films? That's crazy.

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#48 clyde46
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@millerlight89 said:

Too bad most of those PC gamers in China and India are pirates.

As are the console gamers in the same region?

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#49 Tqricardinho
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And out of those 600M gamers few are those who play a wide variety of games.

The majority of people sticks to RTS, MMORPGs, MOBAs...

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#50 clyde46
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@Tqricardinho said:

And out of those 600M gamers few are those who play a wide variety of games.

The majority of people sticks to RTS, MMORPGs, MOBAs...

Nuice assumption....