PC Gaming too stronk.

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#1 Edited by FPSfan1985 (2174 posts) -

No wonder Nvidia passed on the consoles.

#2 Posted by kraken2109 (13241 posts) -

Nice

#3 Posted by PannicAtack (21040 posts) -

More League of Legends viewers than the Stanley Cup? Damn...

#4 Posted by TheEroica (14510 posts) -

Thats because not only is it more powerful by quite a margin, but it's also becoming very accessible... I'm a believer.

#5 Posted by freedomfreak (43757 posts) -

Stronk. That's like a pronunciation thingk.

#6 Edited by Jankarcop (10791 posts) -

I've been saying this for years.

There are more steam concurrent than xbl and psn peak concurrent COMBINED!.

There are more LOL or WoW than xbl and psn concurrent. ONE GAME more than all console online.

Its insane.

#7 Edited by glez13 (9030 posts) -

What the hell is this?

#8 Edited by SteXmaN (493 posts) -

o7

#9 Posted by wis3boi (32020 posts) -

It's time for a sacrifice, my brothers

#10 Edited by GarGx1 (3454 posts) -

Nah! PC gaming died 5 years ago, it's only people playing Facebook browser games and MMO's don't count. What does that leave it with? crappy RTS's!

It's a pity sarcasm doesn't really work in text ;)

#11 Posted by lawlessx (47220 posts) -

@PannicAtack said:

More League of Legends viewers than the Stanley Cup? Damn...

yeah that's something to think about..E-sports have come a long way

#12 Edited by LordOfPoms (1138 posts) -

@PannicAtack said:

More League of Legends viewers than the Stanley Cup? Damn...

Yeah, that stat is total bull because Nielsen ratings are infamous for being under representative of their audiences, as well as it doesn't capture international data. It also doesn't take into account that a LoL tourney runs across 3 days where the Stanley Cup Finals runs across 2 weeks and potentially 7 games, while maintaining that high audience. That's not to put down LoL though -- it has a great draw and no game comes close to meeting it outside of DOTA 2 --, but when they compare viewership to traditional sports, it's always laughable.

#13 Posted by psymon100 (6835 posts) -

Very good thread. Short. Sharp. To the point.

#14 Edited by lawlessx (47220 posts) -

@LordOfPoms said:

@PannicAtack said:

More League of Legends viewers than the Stanley Cup? Damn...

Yeah, that stat is total bull because Nielsen ratings are infamous for being under representative of their audiences, as well as it doesn't capture international data. It also doesn't take into account that a LoL tourney runs across 3 days where the Stanley Cup Finals runs across 2 weeks and potentially 7 games, while maintaining that high audience. That's not to put down LoL though -- it has a great draw and no game comes close to meeting it outside of DOTA 2 --, but when they compare viewership to traditional sports, it's always laughable.

But it says it was the stanley Final...wouldn't that mean they're referring to the last game in the finals?

#15 Edited by Samus3D (1829 posts) -

Apparently the Raiders are as well, why should anyone take your word?

#16 Posted by lightleggy (16087 posts) -

@freedomfreak said:

Stronk. That's like a pronunciation thingk.

It's a play on a League of Legends' character quotes.

"Mundo too stronk for you!".

#17 Edited by LordOfPoms (1138 posts) -

@lawlessx said:

@LordOfPoms said:

@PannicAtack said:

More League of Legends viewers than the Stanley Cup? Damn...

Yeah, that stat is total bull because Nielsen ratings are infamous for being under representative of their audiences, as well as it doesn't capture international data. It also doesn't take into account that a LoL tourney runs across 3 days where the Stanley Cup Finals runs across 2 weeks and potentially 7 games, while maintaining that high audience. That's not to put down LoL though -- it has a great draw and no game comes close to meeting it outside of DOTA 2 --, but when they compare viewership to traditional sports, it's always laughable.

But it says it was the stanley Final...wouldn't that mean they're referring to the last game in the finals?

We don't know, the graphic is ambiguous for a reason, the same reason they don't mention that a typical weekly NHL game on NBC Sunday's draws 1-2 million while League only draws that for major tournaments. That's not to say it's impossible for LOL to get a traditional sports audience. It certainly can for things like Worlds, but remember that even a non-finals playoff game can draw massive audiences in Round 1 (such as Penguins versus Boston, or Montreal versus New York, etc), audiences larger than LOL does for it's finals.

Concerning just the Cup Finals, if you combined the Canadian, US and European audiences for the Cup Finals (yes, Russia watches), it would be pretty massive, although US-wise LOL could potentially beat it. Hockey doesn't always go over well in the US if the teams aren't from hockey hotbeds such as Boston, Minnesota, New York or the Atlantic. Unfortunately, gathering TV-watching data is archaic and rarely gives you a picture of total viewers whereas stream viewers is much easier.

#18 Posted by clyde46 (47632 posts) -

PC gaming is becoming more and more accessible to everyone. Given that the latest APU's and intergrated graphics chips in the new Intel chips are capable of running most 7th gens at medium settings, more and more people are able to game on their PC's.

#19 Edited by treedoor (7648 posts) -

It's the most accessible platform to game on, so these numbers are not surprising.

#20 Posted by psymon100 (6835 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

PC gaming is becoming more and more accessible to everyone. Given that the latest APU's and intergrated graphics chips in the new Intel chips are capable of running most 7th gens at medium settings, more and more people are able to game on their PC's.

God. It's amazing what graphics can be included integrated onto the same bit of silicon as the CPU. Also, Intel - their graphics have come a long way. Pretty much entry level, but I'm still suitably impressed.

Clyde, I got a question for you man. On this forum I find you impartial / neutral, but lately I've noticed a lot of people calling you a lemming. Why? Why would people get an idea like that in their head?

#21 Edited by clyde46 (47632 posts) -

@psymon100 said:

@clyde46 said:

PC gaming is becoming more and more accessible to everyone. Given that the latest APU's and intergrated graphics chips in the new Intel chips are capable of running most 7th gens at medium settings, more and more people are able to game on their PC's.

God. It's amazing what graphics can be included integrated onto the same bit of silicon as the CPU. Also, Intel - their graphics have come a long way. Pretty much entry level, but I'm still suitably impressed.

Clyde, I got a question for you man. On this forum I find you impartial / neutral, but lately I've noticed a lot of people calling you a lemming. Why? Why would people get an idea like that in their head?

Because I call Cows out on their BS. It seems they don't like that :P

#22 Edited by Wasdie (50673 posts) -

PC gaming seems to be getting stronger each year. I believe as gamers get older they want a more mature platform that they have a greater degree of control over and a larger library to choose from.

The PC is the only logical platform for a long-time gamer. Consoles can be bought and played but they can never replace the gaming experience one gets from a gaming PC.

#23 Edited by psymon100 (6835 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

Because I call Cows out on their BS. It seems they don't like that :P

I wondered if that was all it took :p

#24 Edited by Vatusus (5250 posts) -

I've the feeling most of those million PC "gamers" are included on the flash games/MMO only players

#25 Posted by Gue1 (11509 posts) -

good to see the RTS and F2P games are even more popular than ever on the PC environment. ;)

#26 Edited by danjammer69 (4147 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@psymon100 said:

@clyde46 said:

PC gaming is becoming more and more accessible to everyone. Given that the latest APU's and intergrated graphics chips in the new Intel chips are capable of running most 7th gens at medium settings, more and more people are able to game on their PC's.

God. It's amazing what graphics can be included integrated onto the same bit of silicon as the CPU. Also, Intel - their graphics have come a long way. Pretty much entry level, but I'm still suitably impressed.

Clyde, I got a question for you man. On this forum I find you impartial / neutral, but lately I've noticed a lot of people calling you a lemming. Why? Why would people get an idea like that in their head?

Because I call Cows out on their BS. It seems they don't like that :P

Do you also call out Lems on their BS as well?

Not trying to be a smartass, as you are one the better posters on GS. Just wondering if you keep things on an even level.

#27 Posted by clyde46 (47632 posts) -

@Vatusus said:

I've the feeling most of those million PC "gamers" are included on the flash games/MMO only players

People who play MMO's aren't consider gamers now? I guess going by that logic that people who bought a PS3 for its Blu-Ray player aren't allowed to be counted in console sales....

#28 Edited by treedoor (7648 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@Vatusus said:

I've the feeling most of those million PC "gamers" are included on the flash games/MMO only players

People who play MMO's aren't consider gamers now? I guess going by that logic that people who bought a PS3 for its Blu-Ray player aren't allowed to be counted in console sales....

Nor should the 20+ million Kinect owners, or the 20 million people who only play CoD.

And don't even get me started on the Nintendo Wii. Wii Sports gamers are not REAL gamers like us >:(

#29 Edited by Jankarcop (10791 posts) -

Ahh, the old "MMO" dont count.

Even though they

1. Have more gameplay and content than most console genres.

2. Higher skillcap than 99% of console genres. Resulting in real competitive scenes, something consoles do not have.

3. More difficult content. Period. (not including PVP, see #2)

Well then most Wii and other motion games, CoD type games, Kinect games, and Movie-Games don't count either. Oops there goes 50% of console sales.

#30 Posted by lawlessx (47220 posts) -

@Vatusus said:

I've the feeling most of those million PC "gamers" are included on the flash games/MMO only players

people that play MMOs aren't gamers? really?

#31 Posted by Ribnarak (2299 posts) -

just built a gaming pc. its so easy to build. and its A LOT more convenient than what people actually believe.

#32 Edited by Sushiglutton (5545 posts) -

Interesting to see how much more aggresively Nvidia will market PC-gaming this gen as they have no stake at all in the consoles. Wonder what they can achieve together with Valve.

#33 Posted by clyde46 (47632 posts) -

@Jankarcop said:

Ahh, the old "MMO" dont count.

Even though they

1. Have more gameplay and content than most console genres.

2. Higher skillcap than 99% of console genres. Resulting in real competitive scenes, something consoles do not have.

3. More difficult content. Period. (not including PVP, see #2)

Well then most Wii and other motion games, CoD type games, Kinect games, and Movie-Games don't count either. Oops there goes 50% of console sales.

MMO's are considered difficult now? Lawl.

#34 Posted by lostrib (43005 posts) -

I wonder where they got these numbers from. Also, CoD BLOPS 2 is a terrible example

#35 Edited by lx_theo (6211 posts) -

Forever the stronkiest

#36 Posted by NameIess_One (1077 posts) -

@Vatusus said:

I've the feeling most of those million PC "gamers" are included on the flash games/MMO only players

That may be the case, but they still contribute to the overall PC market. And MMO... well, expect for it to be a pretty major genre on next gen consoles... just take a look at the PS4 launch line-up...

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Oh, and I accidentally clicked "Flag" on your post, is this the new kind of reporting?

If any mod sees this, it was a mistake... and reporting shouldn't involve only one click, especially with the option so close to "Quote".

#37 Edited by Jankarcop (10791 posts) -

@Gue1 said:

good to see the RTS and F2P games are even more popular than ever on the PC environment. ;)

Count the genres: Get destroyed.

  1. Watch Dogs
  2. AC4
  3. BF4
  4. CoD: Ghosts
  5. Cyberpunk 2077 (no specific release for next-gen consoles)
  6. FFXIV: ARR (catching up with PC version)
  7. Thief 4
  8. The Division
  9. The Witcher 3
  10. Doom4
  11. TESO
  12. TitanFall
  13. Dragon Age 3
  14. Mass Effect 4
  15. EQ:Next
  16. Planetside 2
  17. Deus Ex World
  18. Dark Souls 2
  19. The Evil Within
  20. Wolfenstein
  21. The Witness
  22. Tom Clancy's Rainbow 6 - Patriots
  23. Star Citizen
  24. Diablo3 Expansion
  25. SC2 Expansion
  26. Galactic Civ 3
  27. Project Eternity
  28. Divinity Original Sin
  29. WasteLand 2
  30. Sims4
  31. CNC3
  32. Path of Exile
#38 Posted by Cyberdot (3925 posts) -

Not surprising.

The PC is a very convenient platform that opens the door to superior gaming experience, so people are turning their backs on consoles.

#39 Posted by lawlessx (47220 posts) -

@Jankarcop said:

@Gue1 said:

good to see the RTS and F2P games are even more popular than ever on the PC environment. ;)

Count the genres: Get destroyed.

  1. Watch Dogs
  2. AC4
  3. BF4
  4. CoD: Ghosts
  5. Cyberpunk 2077 (no specific release for next-gen consoles)
  6. FFXIV: ARR (catching up with PC version)
  7. Thief 4
  8. The Division
  9. The Witcher 3
  10. Doom4
  11. TESO
  12. TitanFall
  13. Dragon Age 3
  14. Mass Effect 4
  15. EQ:Next
  16. Planetside 2
  17. Deus Ex World
  18. Dark Souls 2
  19. The Evil Within
  20. Wolfenstein
  21. The Witness
  22. Tom Clancy's Rainbow 6 - Patriots
  23. Star Citizen
  24. Diablo3 Expansion
  25. SC2 Expansion
  26. Galactic Civ 3
  27. Project Eternity
  28. Divinity Original Sin
  29. WasteLand 2
  30. Sims4
  31. CNC3
  32. Path of Exile

do you just assume every post about PC is negative?

#40 Posted by Jankarcop (10791 posts) -

Not going to read unless you can refute me.

#41 Edited by NameIess_One (1077 posts) -

@lawlessx said:

do you just assume every post about PC is negative?

Well, it was a negative in this case, he's a cow, and cows aren't really known for the PC love (aside from when they're hiding behind it)! :P

They'll change their tune as F2P becomes more and more prevalent on consoles, though.

#42 Edited by Dequan1233 (107 posts) -

Woot pc gaming FTW!

#43 Edited by heretrix (37527 posts) -

I wanna frame that goddamn thing.

#44 Posted by GhoX (5305 posts) -

@LordOfPoms said:

@PannicAtack said:

More League of Legends viewers than the Stanley Cup? Damn...

Yeah, that stat is total bull because Nielsen ratings are infamous for being under representative of their audiences, as well as it doesn't capture international data. It also doesn't take into account that a LoL tourney runs across 3 days where the Stanley Cup Finals runs across 2 weeks and potentially 7 games, while maintaining that high audience. That's not to put down LoL though -- it has a great draw and no game comes close to meeting it outside of DOTA 2 --, but when they compare viewership to traditional sports, it's always laughable.

One is a heavily localised sport, while the other is a completely international e-sport. Personally I've never heard of Stanley Cup until this thread, but then again a lot of people don't really pay attention to ice hockey, or have even seen ice hockey before. More widespread sports like soccer will of course attract more viewers.

#45 Posted by TheFadeForever (2246 posts) -

@Vatusus: So people who play MMO aren't gamers nice logic there but honestly someone like kinda lacked it in the first place

#46 Edited by millerlight89 (18641 posts) -

Too bad most of those PC gamers in China and India are pirates.

#47 Posted by cain006 (8625 posts) -

Wow, Call of duty has made more than the Bond films? That's crazy.

#48 Posted by clyde46 (47632 posts) -

@millerlight89 said:

Too bad most of those PC gamers in China and India are pirates.

As are the console gamers in the same region?

#49 Posted by Tqricardinho (434 posts) -

And out of those 600M gamers few are those who play a wide variety of games.

The majority of people sticks to RTS, MMORPGs, MOBAs...

#50 Posted by clyde46 (47632 posts) -

@Tqricardinho said:

And out of those 600M gamers few are those who play a wide variety of games.

The majority of people sticks to RTS, MMORPGs, MOBAs...

Nuice assumption....