MS, Our New Xbox One/PC Features Not In Response To PS4's Lead

@Pedro: I would think by now, it's common knowledge that the Xbox One and the PS4 have compatible architecture, with the PS4 being more powerful.

@Pedro: I would think by now, it's common knowledge that the Xbox One and the PS4 have compatible architecture, with the PS4 being more powerful.

@panda30: Come on man that 16.5 mill they are probably talking something different from what you want it to mean. Also the 5 mill keeps moving from 3 to 1 month all the times. I mean it should at least give you a pause. Even the banner you posted leaves itself to different interpretation. Take it from someone who thinks Halo still the biggest exclusive there is. The way MS has chosen to dance around Halo 5 success is vague. A success like that should be communicated straight up.

About the topic. The move is all within MS interest really. Console business was always eventually to complement the services that Microsoft offer. I had a thread about this calling it brilliant. The store needs to improve though

stop being in denial this is no interpretation. 343 confirm it on RTX 16.5 mill

so go watch it

or

go cry about it

Halo5 sold 5mill after month 1

16.5mill now sooo yea but no

Anyone claiming that xbox games on pc is anything but good is simply a microsoft hater. I have a killer pc but I still play xbox games a lot of the time. The reason why? Multiplayer games! I have a nice pc but none of my friends do. I wanted to play the division with my pc but I played on xbox because that is where my friends were. I'm thrilled that I will get to play Gears 4 on my pc and still get to play with my xbox live friends. The best thing ever is if games like COD/Battlefield would allow cross platform play too. Then I really would be able to get rid of my xbox. The benefit to MS for this? I would have to buy my games from there store. I'm a loyal steam fan but if I could play COD with xbox one players on my pc I would buy it from their store. (Even if I had to pay full price which is something I never do. Best Buy Gamers Club!)

you are missing the point, Microsoft is not interested in Exclusive games anymore, they are interested in Bringing there games to as many platforms as they can which is a smart move because Games are where the money is NOT hardware.

As much as i don't like the idea because i trade a lot of games, you have to concede that used games will soon be a thing of the past.

Things change and you ether change with them or get left behind.

Gaming is going digital it's inevitable and no amount of complaining about it is going to change that.

And how does that validate your point? You stated

"only MS's decision to not make it happen."

So, in your mind the only reason that Xbox games are not on the PS4 is because of MS. That is a statement that cannot be validated. Independent of that, its rather unreasonable for them to extend their play anywhere feature to a platform that is 1. Not theirs, 2. Requires Sony permission, 3. Undercut their bottom line since they have to pay royalties.

why would microsoft put xbox on ps4 if you like xbox games then buy a xbox and stop whining

There are hundreds of examples of companies managing to put their games on both the Xbox One and the PS4, so no reason a software giant like MS couldn't. MS is also putting their games on PC, a platform they do not own. Plus, even after royalties, MS would make more money including the PS4 as opposed to excluding its customers.

stop being in denial this is no interpretation. 343 confirm it on RTX 16.5 mill

so go watch it

or

go cry about it

NO is shipped 5 million to stores and sold not even 2 million in days total crap compare to old halo games even Halo 2,and lower than Uncharted 4 did to.

That is even more sad as bigger chances are that most of people friends are on PS4 playing and not on xbox one simple because the PS4 has a much bigger user base.

But regardless of you wanting to play with your friend or not Your opinion is based on what you claim is your experience and you don't represent even 1% of the PC marker,reality is xbox games on PC have only 1 winner PC gamers,as they get xbox games completely killing the need to own an xbox one, and 2nd the xbox one doesn't get PC games so is only win win for PC gamers for xbox gamers it a kick in the face even more when live fees are non existent on PC.

COD is an activision game not a MS game and this gen MS even loss the right to DLC from activision,thanks to the fantastic PS4 sales.

This ^^ is bullshit bullshit and more bullshit this is the voice of some one who use to use even games on xbox 360 and PC vs PS3 as ammo,tagging them as ""only on xbox 360"",i even quoted you doing so,this is pathetic fact is exclusives don't matter now because the xbox one loss them because its games sales suck monkey ass compare to the xbox 360 plain an simple even with a smaller user base the xbox 360 steamrolled the xbox one software sales wise,Halo selling 3.3 million copies in US alone in a few days prove that beyond doubt.

Exclusives matter and they have before the PS and xbox were even here when Mario was battling Sonic,and even before that when Mario and Zelda battle with Alex kid and fantasy zone.

If exclusive didn't really matter to MS and they wanted to see things as multiplatform money,Nintendo and Sony would also have those games as well,what better than having Halo on PS4,XBO, PC and NX.?

Microsoft on Xbox One: We Have The Best Exclusives, New Franchises, and Multiplayer Community

"It's more fun on Xbox One," Microsoft says.

"With the best exclusives, spectacular new franchises, and the best multiplayer community, it's more fun on Xbox One."

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/microsoft-on-xbox-one-we-have-the-best-exclusives-new-franchises-and-multiplayer-community/1100-6420746/

Lies lies lies.... But that was 2014 were the xbox wasn't that far from the PS4 and they could still use shipped to stores numbers to claim they were close to the PS4.

This is before games started to bomb one after another.

So who ever believe this shit from MS is just on pure uncut denial,all MS is doing is pleasing investors because the xbox one games are selling badly and even Halo under performed vs other halo games,even on a bigger user base.

This is even more pathetic games have being digital on PC for ages,and still there are physical copies,we don't have to move because MS think something most be like they say didn't DRM,no used games and all that crap teach anything to you.?

You are being purposefully naive. PC gaming runs on a Microsoft Platform. Windows is owned by Microsoft and the vast majority of PC games are running on Windows with no other OS being a close second. Xbox Play Anywhere is using another Microsoft platform that is design for their systems that spans across multiple devices. Xbox Play Anywhere is also exclusive to Windows 10 systems which includes, tablets,phones, PC and Xbox but its only for Windows 10 systems. You are making the assumption that the only hurdle for Play Anywhere being on the PS4 is Microsoft as if Sony does not have a say in the decision. Even when Microsoft opened the channels for cross play between platforms the new bottleneck was Sony. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

@asylumni: technically, if you count Windows 10. Windows 10 which is MS's ecosystem, combined with Windows 10 being installed on almost half of computers using Steams, then yes he can say that MS/Windows 10 owns the platform.

Half truth half lie.

1. People were asking for MS games, I mean PC players ask for everything on consoles and the games MS produces are no exception so that portion is truth.

2. Not responding to Sony? lol is that the reason why they stopped reporting console and game sales numbers and started making up funny numbers to feed people instead of the actual sales like last gen? Why they did a 180 on virtually everything the xbone set out to be basically making it a carbon copy of PS4 minus the power and sales?

That was the lie, with sales (or lack there of against PS4) being the main reason for this move.

I just don't buy it. I guess different PC gamers. From my point of view, I now have zero interest in the Xbox One. I need exclusives to justify having a console, otherwise, why not have something else in its place which does have exclusives.

I certainly don't buy the 'sales being largely independant from each other'. I used to think that, but now I'm in a position of a PC gamer, if I have a game on my PC, I'm not interested in buying it else where, so there goes the sale I would have given to the console.

It's a pretty expensive extention, isn't there other ways such as the Steam Link? Sure it might not work for MS store games, but it's an expensive solution to have an Xbox One just for those games.

True dat... And done that. Lol the day after MSs e3 presentation.

I'm guessing this is taken from the interview in this article mostly : Scorpio Rising

As usual the cows here cant see the forest for the trees. The 'hedged bet' is on the fact that MS has primarily shifted their business model into selling services, and they are pretty successful at it. Xbox Live is the service they are selling. Scorpio is the product they came up with based on what devs said they would need if they wanted to deliver.

Just like in the other thread where you cows were saying they were backtracking, thats not the case and is explained in the article above.

Arguments based on console sales numbers is kinda moot since no cow here could have predicted the PS4 would sell like it did, not even Sony predicted that. And if its any indication, the PS4 sold primarily based on the fact that it was more powerful. It wasnt exclusives driving PS4s huge sales numbers they literally didnt have any worthwhile for almost the first two years. It was the combination of cheaper price and blundered X1 launch that catapulted the PS4 not exclusives. Sony's entire marketing strat was market multiplats like first party games and tell everyone to wait for greatness and it worked. Especially when the power difference was factored into the marketing. Sony made 1080 a marketing term this gen, even when a number of games didnt do 1080 on PS4.

You'll always have people that say stuff like, 'derp now I can throw out my xbox' but these same people seem to consistently overlook the fact that everyone doesnt have a gaming PC or want one. Theres definitely a niche market here to be exploited that probably a lot sweeter than most cows are willingly to admit. Just like the Surface made its mark in the tablet/pc market after a rough start, the Xbox is becoming a branded pc in the same vein. Not to mention MS has Windows Holographic and will potentially have access to both Vive and Rift on Scorpio, which could completely crater PSVR.

We shall see. My money is on the people that jumped on the power bandwagon staying on the 'moar powah' bandwagon and going to Scorpio. Sony exclusives arent really what drove the herd to PS4 this gen. SW Cows like to think that but if it were true Bloodborne and Uncharted 4 would be selling 20 million copies and they arent. They are selling comparable numbers to Xbox exclusives.

@Antwan3K: Nobody is against supporting MS. It's just unnecessary to own a Xbox at this point.

Jesus Christ, lems are defensive.

@Pedro: who doesn't have a gaming PC? How many Steam users are there again? Jesus Christ.

Many people don't. Jesus Christ. Why do you think console gaming still exist?

@Antwan3K: Nobody is against supporting MS. It's just unnecessary to own a Xbox at this point.

And a kick in the bollocks to the people who got an Xbox a couple of years ago. Thanks MS, for turning my Xbox into the most expensive Netflix player out there. That was awesome.

It's been like playing NBA Jam, but instead of using a ball, you're taking rolls of cash out of your bank and slam dunking it in MS basket. Thank you MS.

Woooo YEAH, lets hear it for MSs business plan, I'm sure happy they're making money.

JC. For exclusives which Xbone doesn't have.

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delicious 4K60fps gaming

@HalcyonScarlet said:

@Legend002 said:

@Antwan3K: Nobody is against supporting MS. It's just unnecessary to own a Xbox at this point.

And a kick in the bollocks to the people who got an Xbox a couple of years ago. Thanks MS, for turning my Xbox into the most expensive Netflix player out there. That was awesome.

It's been like playing NBA Jam, but instead of using a ball, you're taking rolls of cash out of your bank and slam dunking it in MS basket. Thank you MS.

Woooo YEAH, lets hear it for MSs business plan, I'm sure happy they're making money.

And I hope you realize not everyone feels the same way you do.. For me, Xbox Play Anywhere represents an interesting value..

For example, I'm due for a new laptop and thanks to the recent news, i'll definitely be looking at a laptop capable of running Xbox One level games (i'll likely wait until the new Surface Book 2 is announced to make my final decision). With a unified Windows Store and Xbox Play Anywhere, i'll be able to play my Xbox games on both my home console and continue playing on the go as well via cross-buy and cross-save.. How exactly is that a bad value for me?..

It sucks that you feel like you don't see any value in your console anymore due to your gaming PC, but please realize that not everyone shares your view.. For me, I'm interested in PC gaming for the first time in my entire life.. and that's because I'll be able to buy a game once from my console and play that same game natively, with achievements, party chat, online play, and everything else i'd expect from Xbox Live but mobile with my laptop.. This is great news for a consumer like me and i'm sure there are many others that appreciate that value..

Yup, MS still has a sore jaw from being knocked the **** out at reveal E3.

@Antwan3K said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

@Legend002 said:

@Antwan3K: Nobody is against supporting MS. It's just unnecessary to own a Xbox at this point.

And a kick in the bollocks to the people who got an Xbox a couple of years ago. Thanks MS, for turning my Xbox into the most expensive Netflix player out there. That was awesome.

It's been like playing NBA Jam, but instead of using a ball, you're taking rolls of cash out of your bank and slam dunking it in MS basket. Thank you MS.

Woooo YEAH, lets hear it for MSs business plan, I'm sure happy they're making money.

And I hope you realize not everyone feels the same way you do.. For me, Xbox Play Anywhere represents an interesting value..

For example, I'm due for a new laptop and thanks to the recent news, i'll definitely be looking at a laptop capable of running Xbox One level games (i'll likely wait until the new Surface Book 2 is announced to make my final decision). With a unified Windows Store and Xbox Play Anywhere, i'll be able to play my Xbox games on both my home console and continue playing on the go as well via cross-buy and cross-save.. How exactly is that a bad value for me?..

It sucks that you feel like you don't see any value in your console anymore due to your gaming PC, but please realize that not everyone shares your view.. For me, I'm interested in PC gaming for the first time in my entire life.. and that's because I'll be able to buy a game once from my console and play that same game natively, with achievements, party chat, online play, and everything else i'd expect from Xbox Live but mobile with my laptop.. This is great news for a consumer like me and i'm sure there are many others that appreciate that value..

With a laptop you take on your travels, sure I can see that. You don't sound like a day one Xbox One owner, if you're not, I can imagine you may be happier with it, especially if you got one more recently, because then you knew the deal. I didn't know the deal, MS sold me a different concept. It cost me a lot, so I reserve the right to be pissed.

I in contrast to you first seriously became interested in PC gaming as a consequence of MS knee jerk reactions. It began when they dropped Kinect from the Xbox One and continued until MS fell of my scales completely when they announced everything as multiplat.

But there's always a silver lining and mine was that I've rediscovered Nintendo gaming with the Wii U.

@HalcyonScarlet said:

@Antwan3K said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

@Legend002 said:

@Antwan3K: Nobody is against supporting MS. It's just unnecessary to own a Xbox at this point.

And a kick in the bollocks to the people who got an Xbox a couple of years ago. Thanks MS, for turning my Xbox into the most expensive Netflix player out there. That was awesome.

It's been like playing NBA Jam, but instead of using a ball, you're taking rolls of cash out of your bank and slam dunking it in MS basket. Thank you MS.

Woooo YEAH, lets hear it for MSs business plan, I'm sure happy they're making money.

And I hope you realize not everyone feels the same way you do.. For me, Xbox Play Anywhere represents an interesting value..

For example, I'm due for a new laptop and thanks to the recent news, i'll definitely be looking at a laptop capable of running Xbox One level games (i'll likely wait until the new Surface Book 2 is announced to make my final decision). With a unified Windows Store and Xbox Play Anywhere, i'll be able to play my Xbox games on both my home console and continue playing on the go as well via cross-buy and cross-save.. How exactly is that a bad value for me?..

It sucks that you feel like you don't see any value in your console anymore due to your gaming PC, but please realize that not everyone shares your view.. For me, I'm interested in PC gaming for the first time in my entire life.. and that's because I'll be able to buy a game once from my console and play that same game natively, with achievements, party chat, online play, and everything else i'd expect from Xbox Live but mobile with my laptop.. This is great news for a consumer like me and i'm sure there are many others that appreciate that value..

With a laptop you take on your travels, sure I can see that. You don't sound like a day one Xbox One owner, if you're not, I can imagine you may be happier with it, especially if you got one more recently, because then you knew the deal. I didn't know the deal, MS sold me a different concept. It cost me a lot, so I reserve the right to be pissed.

I in contrast to you first seriously became interested in PC gaming as a consequence of MS knee jerk reactions. It began when they dropped Kinect from the Xbox One and continued until MS fell of my scales completely when they announced everything as multiplat.

But there's always a silver lining and mine was that I've rediscovered Nintendo gaming with the Wii U.

I bought my Xbox One on day one.. I actually have the Day One edition.. and I don't feel slighted at all.. I've enjoyed over 3 years of gaming on a device I literally use every day, so I see zero need to complain.. As someone who was never a PC gamer, I didn't give a damn about an Xbox One game also appearing on PC because i'm a console gamer first and i'm not going to buy the same game twice.. Now as someone who would likely take advantage of Xbox Play Anywhere for continuing my Xbox One games on my laptop, this is an amazing announcement.. There is no downside for me..

Even if I was like you and had a high-end gaming desktop PC, I would be cool with this move.. that just means that when the living room TV is occupied, I can continue my gaming from my office PC.. there is no downside for "buy once, play anywhere" as far as I'm concerned..

You really seem to like having your gaming segregated with exclusive content on a multitude of different devices and that's fine.. different strokes for different folks as they say.. for me, if I can buy a game once and play it across all my devices, that's music to my ears.. there's enough gaming to be had on any given major platform (Xbox console, PlayStation, PC, or Nintendo) to satisfy even the most hardcore gamer.. buying yet another separate device to play a handful of extra exclusives coupled with yet another subscription fee doesn't appeal to me.. If I bought a PS4 or a WiiU/NX for their exclusives they'll just be boxes collecting dust because I barely have time to play all the games I have at my disposal right now on Xbox..

I don't need another console sitting under my television.. I need a way for my gaming to follow me from screen to screen to screen so I can effectively play as many games as possible whether I'm in the living room, in my office, or on the go.. Xbox Play Anywhere solves that issue..

@HalcyonScarlet: It's no use. MS completely brainwashed them into thinking the bone is still relevant... somehow.

Sony's jaw must be sore from being knocked the **** out from the Scorpio announcement last month at E3.

Sony are not so innocent.

Half truth half lie.

1. People were asking for MS games, I mean PC players ask for everything on consoles and the games MS produces are no exception so that portion is truth.

2. Not responding to Sony? lol is that the reason why they stopped reporting console and game sales numbers and started making up funny numbers to feed people instead of the actual sales like last gen? Why they did a 180 on virtually everything the xbone set out to be basically making it a carbon copy of PS4 minus the power and sales?

That was the lie, with sales (or lack there of against PS4) being the main reason for this move.

@tormentos I posted a picture and a few words. How many threads/posts have you put complaining Your enemy (as you put it - so childish but I keep at your level)?

NO is shipped 5 million to stores and sold not even 2 million in days total crap compare to old halo games even Halo 2,and lower than Uncharted 4 did to.

That is even more sad as bigger chances are that most of people friends are on PS4 playing and not on xbox one simple because the PS4 has a much bigger user base.

But regardless of you wanting to play with your friend or not Your opinion is based on what you claim is your experience and you don't represent even 1% of the PC marker,reality is xbox games on PC have only 1 winner PC gamers,as they get xbox games completely killing the need to own an xbox one, and 2nd the xbox one doesn't get PC games so is only win win for PC gamers for xbox gamers it a kick in the face even more when live fees are non existent on PC.

COD is an activision game not a MS game and this gen MS even loss the right to DLC from activision,thanks to the fantastic PS4 sales.

This ^^ is bullshit bullshit and more bullshit this is the voice of some one who use to use even games on xbox 360 and PC vs PS3 as ammo,tagging them as ""only on xbox 360"",i even quoted you doing so,this is pathetic fact is exclusives don't matter now because the xbox one loss them because its games sales suck monkey ass compare to the xbox 360 plain an simple even with a smaller user base the xbox 360 steamrolled the xbox one software sales wise,Halo selling 3.3 million copies in US alone in a few days prove that beyond doubt.

Exclusives matter and they have before the PS and xbox were even here when Mario was battling Sonic,and even before that when Mario and Zelda battle with Alex kid and fantasy zone.

If exclusive didn't really matter to MS and they wanted to see things as multiplatform money,Nintendo and Sony would also have those games as well,what better than having Halo on PS4,XBO, PC and NX.?

Microsoft on Xbox One: We Have The Best Exclusives, New Franchises, and Multiplayer Community

"It's more fun on Xbox One," Microsoft says.

"With the best exclusives, spectacular new franchises, and the best multiplayer community, it's more fun on Xbox One."

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/microsoft-on-xbox-one-we-have-the-best-exclusives-new-franchises-and-multiplayer-community/1100-6420746/

Lies lies lies.... But that was 2014 were the xbox wasn't that far from the PS4 and they could still use shipped to stores numbers to claim they were close to the PS4.

This is before games started to bomb one after another.

So who ever believe this shit from MS is just on pure uncut denial,all MS is doing is pleasing investors because the xbox one games are selling badly and even Halo under performed vs other halo games,even on a bigger user base.

This is even more pathetic games have being digital on PC for ages,and still there are physical copies,we don't have to move because MS think something most be like they say didn't DRM,no used games and all that crap teach anything to you.?

@tormentos Of course they changed it. Keep up man.

Did you really post an image as if to say they didn't do that. Really come on man.

Microsoft and Sony don't fight in a playground. All big companies bend the truth, change direction and sometimes lie. Your really saying Microsoft did it first and then Sony decided cos they did it they will do it as well.

Give yourself a talking to, cos your talking shit.

@HalcyonScarlet: Me and my wife use Kinect daily for voice commands so I'm not mad about having the device.. I was hoping for more usage in core gaming and Microsoft definitely dropped the ball on that.. But buddies of mine have a Kinect-less XB1s and their consoles feel somewhat incomplete to me.. You tend to take the ability to say "Xbox, Pause" or "Xbox, turn off" for granted I guess once it's apart of you daily routine.. I couldn't imagine having to go back to turning on my controller to do those simple tasks.. Was it worth the extra $100?.. Well that's the $100 question.. For me, yes.. I bought the Kinect for 360 for similar functionality and was fine with it.. But for others, Microsoft dropped the ball and I can see why people may be pissed.. Kinect is definitely dead at this point beyond voice commands.. Maybe Cortana support and future VR with Scorpio may bring life back to it though.. But for now, it was a failure..

Again, spending 3 years with a device I use daily that now will allow me to "buy once, play anywhere" is awesome.. If you disagree, great.. But damn, that's weird in my opinion.. That's a great value from where I'm standing