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#1  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Subjugated.

http://www.pcgamer.com/mafia-3-appears-to-be-locked-to-30fps-on-pc/

We received Mafia 3 code this afternoon, and I've started work on the review. But I noticed that the controls felt kinda sluggish, before realising that, if my Fraps readings (and my eyes) are correct, the game is locked to 30fps.

I thought maybe my PC just couldn't handle it, so I shifted down 720p and the lowest graphics settings, but it was still locked to 30. I'm running a GTX 970, an i5-6600K overclocked to 4.5GHz, and 16GB of RAM, which should be more than enough. And it still happens when I disable the in-game vsync option.

So yeah, not great. Whether this is something that'll be fixed in a day one patch, or will be sorted via a forthcoming graphics driver update, remains to be seen, but as it stands it feels like Lincoln is trudging through sludge as I walk around the (very pretty) city of New Bordeaux. We've reached out to 2K to see what the deal is.

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#2 Sweetbackhair
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#PCMasterRace

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disgusting don't see how the dev can get away with it with the gtx 1080 available to the public

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#4 Mr_Huggles_dog
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Awesome.

More money I get to save.

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Noooooo! There will be a patch or something but as always devs treat the PC like shit.

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#6  Edited By navyguy21
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Hopefully its fixed by tomorrow.....

2K said a fix was coming

LINKY

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#7 with_teeth26
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christ, thats not good news. Hopefully there is at least a workaround to fix that

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#8 skipper847
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And if it wasn't for PC mafia game wouldn't be around.

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#9  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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It's worth pointing out that a 30fps lock is a big red flag that this is a super lazy port job, chances are, it's probably some ini change too, further exemplifying how lazy the port is. As long there are no crashes, bugs or glitches but it'll probably still end up with a negative review anyways.

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#10 R4gn4r0k
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Was really looking forward to this game

What a downer :(

@davillain- said:

It's worth pointing out that a 30fps lock is a big red flag that this is a super lazy port job, chances are, it's probably some ini change too, further exemplifying how lazy the port is. As long there are no crashes, bugs or glitches but it'll probably still end up with a negative review anyways.

If it's not some ini-change, and it's hard coded, which it looks like it is, that means it's an even worse port :/

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#11 thehig1
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I'm not playing this at 30fps, I have £50 in my steam account that will now be spent elsewhere

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#12 nygamespotter
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If this really is a cap and not some driver level v-sync option the author forgot to disable them this is disgusting.

Unacceptable in this day and age.

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#13 pyro1245
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ooooo.... gotta hate that. Sounds like someone got lazy.....

Heh. Surprised we didn't hear of this sooner.

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@Sweetbackhair said:

#PCMasterRace

Lol.

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@ProtossRushX said:

disgusting don't see how the dev can get away with it with the gtx 1080 available to the public

Not that the GTX 1080 or even 1070 is needed for high performance gaming. Expensive cost aside, 60 fps has already been possible with older cards like the GTX 960 and R9 380 (solid settings at 1080p) or even the GTX 700 series before that. Can even go further back than that I'm sure.

Better to say 30 fps shouldn't pass inspection with the tech that's been available for years, let alone the new tech today.

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welp is it refund time, I have that sucker pre-ordered

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#18  Edited By BassMan
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I wasn't planning on getting the game anytime soon. So, it will probably be patched when I have time to play it. But yeah... 30fps is pathetic and I refuse to buy the game until it runs at least 60fps.

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#19  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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Loading Video...

WOW enemy AI???

game is disaster. steam reviews are very very negative.

Tommy Angelo crying on his grave.

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Reasons to not pre-order, Exhibit A

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#21  Edited By Juub1990
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@ghosts4ever said:

WOW enemy AI???

game is disaster. steam reviews are very very negative.

Tommy Angelo crying on his grave.

Yeah but all they're complaining about is 30fps.

Edit: Seems a couple of people are experiencing crashes as well.

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@ghosts4ever said:
Loading Video...

WOW enemy AI???

game is disaster. steam reviews are very very negative.

Tommy Angelo crying on his grave.

Loading Video...

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I refuse to buy the game until it is 120 fps.

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#24 PCgameruk
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Wow glad i didn't pre order it now.

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As long as I blink half as often as I normally do while playing this game, I believe that'll offset the loss of frame rate.

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#26  Edited By navyguy21
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Hopefully just an ini edit, ill fix that myself

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#27  Edited By DragonfireXZ95
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I knew I was leery about this game for some reason... Didn't pre-order it, and that AI video looks incredibly janky.

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#28  Edited By lamprey263
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patch is coming, sad though people think the game is unplayable in such a state though

on the upside, GameSpot did their own Xbox One livestream of it, and I'm impressed by the performance on the weaker system and that's what I'm getting it on, no doubt PS4 even will have a better performance and I'm sure Digital Foundry will be all over that if they're not already with their zoomed in still shots and analytic frame counter to let us know what our normal human eyes can't see, and 30fps isn't horrible for PC, on that end if you got the rig then you at least can run it at max settings and whatever, have a much better looking game on an unwavering 30fps, and make due until the higher framerate supports are available

still though, PC master races need to stop acting like such reactionary crybabies, they're basically taking this game down into No Man's Sky review territories on Steam off such a petty issue that's already being addressed

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@lamprey263 said:

patch is coming, sad though people think the game is unplayable in such a state though

on the upside, GameSpot did their own Xbox One livestream of it, and I'm impressed by the performance on the weaker system and that's what I'm getting it on, no doubt PS4 even will have a better performance and I'm sure Digital Foundry will be all over that if they're not already with their zoomed in still shots and analytic frame counter to let us know what our normal human eyes can't see, and 30fps isn't horrible for PC, on that end if you got the rig then you at least can run it at max settings and whatever, have a much better looking game on an unwavering 30fps, and make due until the higher framerate supports are available

still though, PC master races need to stop acting like such reactionary crybabies, they're basically taking this game down into No Man's Sky review territories on Steam off such a petty issue that's already being addressed

It's a major AAA game that achieved its stardom on PC. If they screwed up the PC port, then it deserves to get slain.

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@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@lamprey263 said:

patch is coming, sad though people think the game is unplayable in such a state though

on the upside, GameSpot did their own Xbox One livestream of it, and I'm impressed by the performance on the weaker system and that's what I'm getting it on, no doubt PS4 even will have a better performance and I'm sure Digital Foundry will be all over that if they're not already with their zoomed in still shots and analytic frame counter to let us know what our normal human eyes can't see, and 30fps isn't horrible for PC, on that end if you got the rig then you at least can run it at max settings and whatever, have a much better looking game on an unwavering 30fps, and make due until the higher framerate supports are available

still though, PC master races need to stop acting like such reactionary crybabies, they're basically taking this game down into No Man's Sky review territories on Steam off such a petty issue that's already being addressed

It's a major AAA game that achieved its stardom on PC. If they screwed up the PC port, then it deserves to get slain.

jeez, cry harder will you, in no way is this game remotely unplayable on PC and they'll be addressing these concerns promptly

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#31  Edited By DragonfireXZ95
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@lamprey263 said:
@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@lamprey263 said:

patch is coming, sad though people think the game is unplayable in such a state though

on the upside, GameSpot did their own Xbox One livestream of it, and I'm impressed by the performance on the weaker system and that's what I'm getting it on, no doubt PS4 even will have a better performance and I'm sure Digital Foundry will be all over that if they're not already with their zoomed in still shots and analytic frame counter to let us know what our normal human eyes can't see, and 30fps isn't horrible for PC, on that end if you got the rig then you at least can run it at max settings and whatever, have a much better looking game on an unwavering 30fps, and make due until the higher framerate supports are available

still though, PC master races need to stop acting like such reactionary crybabies, they're basically taking this game down into No Man's Sky review territories on Steam off such a petty issue that's already being addressed

It's a major AAA game that achieved its stardom on PC. If they screwed up the PC port, then it deserves to get slain.

jeez, cry harder will you, in no way is this game remotely unplayable on PC and they'll be addressing these concerns promptly

Yes, telling me to cry harder is so mature. I don't even have the game. I'm just coming in from an unbiased angle.

They know PC gamers will pitch a fit if there is a 30 fps lock; if they don't see it coming, then they're blind to the fanbase.

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#32 Ten_Pints
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The car physics look terribad, pass.

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#33 Heil68
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@chikenfriedrice said:

Noooooo! There will be a patch or something but as always devs treat the PC like shit.

I bets users do it before developer will. Still exited for game.

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#34 chikenfriedrice
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@Heil68: Me too, have it preloaded :)

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#35  Edited By deactivated-5efed3ebc2180
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Forza Horizon 3 stuttering and shit performance when NOT locked on 30fps, now Mafia III directly LOCKED to 30fps... Well, thank you consoles!

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@lamprey263 said:

patch is coming, sad though people think the game is unplayable in such a state though

on the upside, GameSpot did their own Xbox One livestream of it, and I'm impressed by the performance on the weaker system and that's what I'm getting it on, no doubt PS4 even will have a better performance and I'm sure Digital Foundry will be all over that if they're not already with their zoomed in still shots and analytic frame counter to let us know what our normal human eyes can't see, and 30fps isn't horrible for PC, on that end if you got the rig then you at least can run it at max settings and whatever, have a much better looking game on an unwavering 30fps, and make due until the higher framerate supports are available

still though, PC master races need to stop acting like such reactionary crybabies, they're basically taking this game down into No Man's Sky review territories on Steam off such a petty issue that's already being addressed

Sure thing.

When console games get capped at 10fps bc "reasons" you can act like it doesn't bother you.

Until then mind your own business.

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Quick, somebody blame it on UWP!

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This game is gonna be shit, but you all just lap it up...

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UPDATE [10/6 / 6PM PT]: We currently have a patch running here at the studio that includes 30, 60, and unlimited frames-per-second options in the video menu, among other improvements for the PC version of Mafia III. We’re verifying the patch now to ensure everything is working as expected. If everything goes well, we expect the update to go live this weekend. We will be keeping the PC community up-to-date on the status of the patch throughout the weekend and thank you for all the feedback!

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@mr_huggles_dog said:
@lamprey263 said:

patch is coming, sad though people think the game is unplayable in such a state though

on the upside, GameSpot did their own Xbox One livestream of it, and I'm impressed by the performance on the weaker system and that's what I'm getting it on, no doubt PS4 even will have a better performance and I'm sure Digital Foundry will be all over that if they're not already with their zoomed in still shots and analytic frame counter to let us know what our normal human eyes can't see, and 30fps isn't horrible for PC, on that end if you got the rig then you at least can run it at max settings and whatever, have a much better looking game on an unwavering 30fps, and make due until the higher framerate supports are available

still though, PC master races need to stop acting like such reactionary crybabies, they're basically taking this game down into No Man's Sky review territories on Steam off such a petty issue that's already being addressed

Sure thing.

When console games get capped at 10fps bc "reasons" you can act like it doesn't bother you.

Until then mind your own business.

yeah, like that'll is that even remotely close to the situation with PC gamers have with the game, keep whining guys

BTW, read post above, situation is fixed, but I guess that won't stop people from whining nonstop about a non-issue

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The fact this shit is still happening when even Japanese devs porting their titles to pc have started giving 60fps options is just mind boggling.

Like, how the hell can you be this incompetent at your job while being a AAA developer in this industry? seriously how the ****.

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#42  Edited By Juub1990
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Well just had my first crash. After that brawl at the restaurant with the Haitians, Clay went to talk to his dad and Ellis during a cutscene. Then the game just crashed to desktop lol. 46 minutes played.

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#44 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@lamprey263 said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@lamprey263 said:

patch is coming, sad though people think the game is unplayable in such a state though

on the upside, GameSpot did their own Xbox One livestream of it, and I'm impressed by the performance on the weaker system and that's what I'm getting it on, no doubt PS4 even will have a better performance and I'm sure Digital Foundry will be all over that if they're not already with their zoomed in still shots and analytic frame counter to let us know what our normal human eyes can't see, and 30fps isn't horrible for PC, on that end if you got the rig then you at least can run it at max settings and whatever, have a much better looking game on an unwavering 30fps, and make due until the higher framerate supports are available

still though, PC master races need to stop acting like such reactionary crybabies, they're basically taking this game down into No Man's Sky review territories on Steam off such a petty issue that's already being addressed

Sure thing.

When console games get capped at 10fps bc "reasons" you can act like it doesn't bother you.

Until then mind your own business.

yeah, like that'll is that even remotely close to the situation with PC gamers have with the game, keep whining guys

BTW, read post above, situation is fixed, but I guess that won't stop people from whining nonstop about a non-issue

You missed the point entirely.

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#45 Mr_Huggles_dog
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I just wanted to come back in here and express how disappointed I am.

i loved Mafia 2 and I'm from New Orleans originally so was kinda excited.

But now it's just not worth it.

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Found this from gaf that might help with the blurrines:

http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/6203/

Pretty striking difference with a simple sharpening filter

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#47  Edited By sailor232
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Played about 40 mins worth and really reay enjoyed it on pc, yes 60 frames will be way better but it is in no way unplayable at 30, things still feel smooth, I didn't mind the graphics, physics of car, menus and button mapping is really funny until I got uaed to it. Moat importantly the story seems to be there.

I understand peoples anger as they should had done more with the port, but in no way would I refund this, the game is totally playable in its current state, its still fun.

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#48  Edited By sukraj
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@PCgameruk said:

Wow glad i didn't pre order it now.

your loss bud

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#49 R4gn4r0k
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@eliminatorpaige said:

PS4 then.

PC is getting 60fps and unlimited FPS patch this weekend.

When is mafia III on PS4 getting 60fps ?

@howmakewood said:

Found this from gaf that might help with the blurrines:

http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/6203/

Pretty striking difference with a simple sharpening filter

Seems like a color filter, not a blur filter.

Anyway, I just spend over an hour in this game, it does not look blurry to me :/

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#50 Howmakewood
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@R4gn4r0k: "basically saturates some of the colors and adds sharpness." so yes it does alter the colors too but there is sharpening effect too, which is clearly visible in those pics