Lemmings expect a 1 million npd for titanfall

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#1 Posted by nhh18 (6538 posts) -

Unless some miracle and video game data doesn't matter, Titanfall should not have as big of an impact such as saving the xbox one and beating the ps4. Lets face the facts that youtube titanfall has only 2 million views on its largest video. We can't really say that a game is going to sell 20 million when only like 3 million people on the planet earth knows this game exists. There are other problems that need to be stated. The google search trend numbers and twitter numbers. Twitter there are only 12,000 tweets for this game. That isn't that large and shows that they need to do something to increase awareness of this game. It is after all coming out in 2 months. Another problem I have is if you look at the last of us and titanfall you would notice that it appears to be trending on googlee in a similar manner. It really has zero chance of selling call of duty numbers. I expect it to sell around 6-8 million with around 2-3 million on xbox one at best. A system seller it isn't. But keep on fighting the good fight. I like seeing irrational crazy fanboyism hype with no data backing it up.

Here is a summary of what I am saying:

Preorder numbers aren't that high

Awareness of the game isn't that high

Twitter and google trends aren't that high

What it needs is a huge marketing campaign and high reviews to sell around where I think it will but that is my opinion.

#2 Posted by Shewgenja (9827 posts) -

Lemmings aren't even talking about THIS Decembers NPD (so far). So, as far as I can tell, they are a silent faction that can't be spoken for. In fact, Kuu2 is the defacto Lemming King.

#3 Edited by freedomfreak (41448 posts) -

More Titanfall threads than Jakandsigz threads on the front page.

#4 Posted by Liquid_ (2862 posts) -

what lemming is dumb enough to think that titanfall x1 sales will reach ps4 sales?

#5 Edited by StrongDeadlift (5181 posts) -

I get the feeling that TC is arguing with himself, against an arguement that nobody has actually put fourth. (on a large enough scale that it warrants this thread)

I dont think anybody actually SAID was is being suggested in the OP .

#6 Posted by StormyJoe (5697 posts) -

@nhh18 said:

Unless some miracle and video game data doesn't matter, Titanfall should not have as big of an impact such as saving the xbox one and beating the ps4. Lets face the facts that youtube titanfall has only 2 million views on its largest video. We can't really say that a game is going to sell 20 million when only like 3 million people on the planet earth knows this game exists. There are other problems that need to be stated. The google search trend numbers and twitter numbers. Twitter there are only 12,000 tweets for this game. That isn't that large and shows that they need to do something to increase awareness of this game. It is after all coming out in 2 months. Another problem I have is if you look at the last of us and titanfall you would notice that it appears to be trending on googlee in a similar manner. It really has zero chance of selling call of duty numbers. I expect it to sell around 6-8 million with around 2-3 million on xbox one at best. A system seller it isn't. But keep on fighting the good fight. I like seeing irrational crazy fanboyism hype with no data backing it up.

Here is a summary of what I am saying:

Preorder numbers aren't that high

Awareness of the game isn't that high

Twitter and google trends aren't that high

What it needs is a huge marketing campaign and high reviews to sell around where I think it will but that is my opinion.

Every game journalist disagrees with your first sentence. I stopped reading after that.

#7 Posted by Draign (829 posts) -

Someone is envious.

#8 Posted by StrongBlackVine (8418 posts) -

@StormyJoe said:

@nhh18 said:

Unless some miracle and video game data doesn't matter, Titanfall should not have as big of an impact such as saving the xbox one and beating the ps4. Lets face the facts that youtube titanfall has only 2 million views on its largest video. We can't really say that a game is going to sell 20 million when only like 3 million people on the planet earth knows this game exists. There are other problems that need to be stated. The google search trend numbers and twitter numbers. Twitter there are only 12,000 tweets for this game. That isn't that large and shows that they need to do something to increase awareness of this game. It is after all coming out in 2 months. Another problem I have is if you look at the last of us and titanfall you would notice that it appears to be trending on googlee in a similar manner. It really has zero chance of selling call of duty numbers. I expect it to sell around 6-8 million with around 2-3 million on xbox one at best. A system seller it isn't. But keep on fighting the good fight. I like seeing irrational crazy fanboyism hype with no data backing it up.

Here is a summary of what I am saying:

Preorder numbers aren't that high

Awareness of the game isn't that high

Twitter and google trends aren't that high

What it needs is a huge marketing campaign and high reviews to sell around where I think it will but that is my opinion.

Every game journalist disagrees with your first sentence. I stopped reading after that.

Show me a link that shows a journalist saying Titanfall will make the Xflop outsell the PS4.

#9 Edited by MonsieurX (30863 posts) -

Not fanboy wars

#10 Edited by ni6htmare01 (1029 posts) -

World wide? Very likely. NPD along is kind of hard consider this is a new console

#11 Edited by nhh18 (6538 posts) -

Every game journalist talks out of his ass. It is a hyped game that they like so it will likely score well. I am talking about something else entirely, not the metacritc score but how much it will sell first month. The best selling game in march is super smash brawl but outside of that march hasn't had many games outsell a million. So I have no idea why people are thinking that it is going to break march sales records. If they delay it (which they should) to November, and December. I expect it would sell 1.5 million first month. They chose a weird date to release a big title. Also lemmings are the worlds dumbest animal so it isn't any surprise that people think that I am envious about this game.

#12 Posted by StormyJoe (5697 posts) -

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@StormyJoe said:

@nhh18 said:

Unless some miracle and video game data doesn't matter, Titanfall should not have as big of an impact such as saving the xbox one and beating the ps4. Lets face the facts that youtube titanfall has only 2 million views on its largest video. We can't really say that a game is going to sell 20 million when only like 3 million people on the planet earth knows this game exists. There are other problems that need to be stated. The google search trend numbers and twitter numbers. Twitter there are only 12,000 tweets for this game. That isn't that large and shows that they need to do something to increase awareness of this game. It is after all coming out in 2 months. Another problem I have is if you look at the last of us and titanfall you would notice that it appears to be trending on googlee in a similar manner. It really has zero chance of selling call of duty numbers. I expect it to sell around 6-8 million with around 2-3 million on xbox one at best. A system seller it isn't. But keep on fighting the good fight. I like seeing irrational crazy fanboyism hype with no data backing it up.

Here is a summary of what I am saying:

Preorder numbers aren't that high

Awareness of the game isn't that high

Twitter and google trends aren't that high

What it needs is a huge marketing campaign and high reviews to sell around where I think it will but that is my opinion.

Every game journalist disagrees with your first sentence. I stopped reading after that.

Show me a link that shows a journalist saying Titanfall will make the Xflop outsell the PS4.

Look up IGN's coverage of E3 - they all say it will be a system seller. I did not say that all of a sudden the XB1 will outsell the PS4. But, you said it will have no impact, and I don't agree with that - and neither do journalists.

#13 Posted by nhh18 (6538 posts) -

@StormyJoe said:

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@StormyJoe said:

@nhh18 said:

Unless some miracle and video game data doesn't matter, Titanfall should not have as big of an impact such as saving the xbox one and beating the ps4. Lets face the facts that youtube titanfall has only 2 million views on its largest video. We can't really say that a game is going to sell 20 million when only like 3 million people on the planet earth knows this game exists. There are other problems that need to be stated. The google search trend numbers and twitter numbers. Twitter there are only 12,000 tweets for this game. That isn't that large and shows that they need to do something to increase awareness of this game. It is after all coming out in 2 months. Another problem I have is if you look at the last of us and titanfall you would notice that it appears to be trending on googlee in a similar manner. It really has zero chance of selling call of duty numbers. I expect it to sell around 6-8 million with around 2-3 million on xbox one at best. A system seller it isn't. But keep on fighting the good fight. I like seeing irrational crazy fanboyism hype with no data backing it up.

Here is a summary of what I am saying:

Preorder numbers aren't that high

Awareness of the game isn't that high

Twitter and google trends aren't that high

What it needs is a huge marketing campaign and high reviews to sell around where I think it will but that is my opinion.

Every game journalist disagrees with your first sentence. I stopped reading after that.

Show me a link that shows a journalist saying Titanfall will make the Xflop outsell the PS4.

Look up IGN's coverage of E3 - they all say it will be a system seller. I did not say that all of a sudden the XB1 will outsell the PS4. But, you said it will have no impact, and I don't agree with that - and neither do journalists.

I said neither. I said it will sell 1 million npd first month.

#14 Posted by StrongBlackVine (8418 posts) -

@StormyJoe said:

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@StormyJoe said:

@nhh18 said:

Unless some miracle and video game data doesn't matter, Titanfall should not have as big of an impact such as saving the xbox one and beating the ps4. Lets face the facts that youtube titanfall has only 2 million views on its largest video. We can't really say that a game is going to sell 20 million when only like 3 million people on the planet earth knows this game exists. There are other problems that need to be stated. The google search trend numbers and twitter numbers. Twitter there are only 12,000 tweets for this game. That isn't that large and shows that they need to do something to increase awareness of this game. It is after all coming out in 2 months. Another problem I have is if you look at the last of us and titanfall you would notice that it appears to be trending on googlee in a similar manner. It really has zero chance of selling call of duty numbers. I expect it to sell around 6-8 million with around 2-3 million on xbox one at best. A system seller it isn't. But keep on fighting the good fight. I like seeing irrational crazy fanboyism hype with no data backing it up.

Here is a summary of what I am saying:

Preorder numbers aren't that high

Awareness of the game isn't that high

Twitter and google trends aren't that high

What it needs is a huge marketing campaign and high reviews to sell around where I think it will but that is my opinion.

Every game journalist disagrees with your first sentence. I stopped reading after that.

Show me a link that shows a journalist saying Titanfall will make the Xflop outsell the PS4.

Look up IGN's coverage of E3 - they all say it will be a system seller. I did not say that all of a sudden the XB1 will outsell the PS4. But, you said it will have no impact, and I don't agree with that - and neither do journalists.

I never said it will have no impact. I did say the Xflop version of Titanfall will sell less than inFAMOUS Second Son....

#15 Edited by nhh18 (6538 posts) -

@StrongBlackVine said:

@StormyJoe said:

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@StormyJoe said:

@nhh18 said:

Unless some miracle and video game data doesn't matter, Titanfall should not have as big of an impact such as saving the xbox one and beating the ps4. Lets face the facts that youtube titanfall has only 2 million views on its largest video. We can't really say that a game is going to sell 20 million when only like 3 million people on the planet earth knows this game exists. There are other problems that need to be stated. The google search trend numbers and twitter numbers. Twitter there are only 12,000 tweets for this game. That isn't that large and shows that they need to do something to increase awareness of this game. It is after all coming out in 2 months. Another problem I have is if you look at the last of us and titanfall you would notice that it appears to be trending on googlee in a similar manner. It really has zero chance of selling call of duty numbers. I expect it to sell around 6-8 million with around 2-3 million on xbox one at best. A system seller it isn't. But keep on fighting the good fight. I like seeing irrational crazy fanboyism hype with no data backing it up.

Here is a summary of what I am saying:

Preorder numbers aren't that high

Awareness of the game isn't that high

Twitter and google trends aren't that high

What it needs is a huge marketing campaign and high reviews to sell around where I think it will but that is my opinion.

Every game journalist disagrees with your first sentence. I stopped reading after that.

Show me a link that shows a journalist saying Titanfall will make the Xflop outsell the PS4.

Look up IGN's coverage of E3 - they all say it will be a system seller. I did not say that all of a sudden the XB1 will outsell the PS4. But, you said it will have no impact, and I don't agree with that - and neither do journalists.

I never said it will have no impact. I did say the Xflop version of Titanfall will sell less than inFAMOUS Second Son....

Infamous is going to get crushed by titanfall. That is just a fact. It is hyped 1/4 of titan fall so it should sell 1.5-2 million

#16 Posted by Murderstyle75 (4172 posts) -

@nhh18:

Regardless of hype, can a multiplayer only repetitive shooter really sell better than a solid single player game? When talking total sales into consideration, Titanfall may do better since its on three platforms but as for next gen console platforms, Second Son may walk away with it. But then of course Lems will just ignore the X1 sales and quote sales for X1, 360 and PC and call it a win.

#17 Edited by k2theswiss (16599 posts) -

lol hahahaha

TC judging number of sales by number of youtube views

#18 Posted by nhh18 (6538 posts) -

@k2theswiss said:

lol hahahaha

TC judging number of sales by number of youtube views

I don't have much data unlike big companies. I base it off of the data that I do have which is twitter, youtube, and google trends.

#19 Posted by shawn30 (4367 posts) -

Cows fear of Titanfall is amazing, lol.

#20 Edited by Murderstyle75 (4172 posts) -

@shawn30:

Don't think most care. When has one game ever crippled somebodies console? Halo CE and Halo 2 broke records everywhere. The first Xbox still only sold 24 million consoles.

#21 Posted by lundy86_4 (43752 posts) -

Here's an idea... Wait for the release, then talk about sales. Until then, you're just spewing your opinionated BS.

#22 Posted by sailor232 (4924 posts) -

All I ever read on these forums are Cows bashing Titanfall. They talk about it more than the Lemmings.

#23 Edited by lundy86_4 (43752 posts) -

@sailor232 said:

All I ever read on these forums are Cows bashing Titanfall. They talk about it more than the Lemmings.

They really do... It's an arguing point, and a poor one.

#24 Edited by lamprey263 (24467 posts) -

What's the point of pre-ordering if stores will have it in stock anyways?

#25 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (7890 posts) -

TitanFall will achieve what has never been done in gaming or any other form of sales.

Units sold will surpass the console sales. That's right there will be more TitanFall games than X1 out there.

How? Because people will be buying copies to frame in their living room, to keep in their cars glove box, to give as gift at at weddings, to have a copy with you when you walk in the park, to have local fire companies hand out to homeless people.

It will become a way of life for most of America and the rest of the world.

#26 Posted by remiks00 (1977 posts) -

If microsoft advertises the hell out it, it will sell an assload. There are plenty of "Dude-bro" gamers that would be interested in COD with mechs. I'm not confident that it will sell 1 million though.

#27 Posted by Murderstyle75 (4172 posts) -

@remiks00:

Here's the thing though. It's not Microsofts game meaning any advertising done will be from EA.

Its also hard to market a game like this. Activision said that a big reason COD still has a campaign is because its a lot easier to market.

I don't know why Lems care so much anyway. Chance are, the series will eventually go multiplat anyway. Then like Destiny, it becomes irrelevant in SW.

#28 Posted by edwardecl (2239 posts) -

Didn't someone say they are finding it hard to market as it's a multiplayer only game (hard to make trailer and such). And no matter how amazing this game might be many consider it to not be a full game, much like Counterstrike is not a full game.

#29 Edited by Bigboi500 (30328 posts) -

Gamers are growing tired of playing these shallow bro games year after year. People that are expecting COD peak-level sales are delusional and living in the past.

#30 Posted by full_disclosure (955 posts) -

The cow envy of titanfall is reaching epic levels! Quickly approaching halo levels.

#31 Edited by Opus_Rea-333 (1011 posts) -

Cows/Ps4 owners are even sabotaging Titanfall youtube videos

Witness Envy.

Glad some youtube mods are deleting most of their jelly and illogical comments.

#32 Edited by hoosier7 (3882 posts) -

@Opus_Rea-333 said:

Cows/Ps4 owners are even sabotaging Titanfall youtube videos

Witness Envy.

Glad some youtube mods are deleting most of their jelly and illogical comments.

Really? Got an example, i've flicked through the three most popular videos and can't see anything out of the ordinary, dislike bar isn't bigger than you'd expect.

Anyway i'm really surprised, i ignored the people who kept saying the hype was manufactured but it seems like it is. For a supposedly "big" multiplat game those youtube views are low and a lot of the comments seem to be PC gamers as well. Sounds like it's just the loud minority on here that influenced me before.

#33 Edited by Opus_Rea-333 (1011 posts) -

@hoosier7 said:

@Opus_Rea-333 said:

Cows/Ps4 owners are even sabotaging Titanfall youtube videos

Witness Envy.

Glad some youtube mods are deleting most of their jelly and illogical comments.

Really? Got an example, i've flicked through the three most popular videos and can't see anything out of the ordinary, dislike bar isn't bigger than you'd expect.

Anyway i'm really surprised, i ignored the people who kept saying the hype was manufactured but it seems like it is. For a supposedly "big" multiplat game those youtube views are low and a lot of the comments seem to be PC gamers as well. Sounds like it's just the loud minority on here that influenced me before.

I guess i was wrong using the word Sabotaging, more like constant bashing but it is pointless anyway since most people call them trolls and tend to ignore them.

#34 Posted by j2zon2591 (2241 posts) -

1m combined doesn't sound unrealistic.

1m on X1? IDK.. it'll reach that point but probably not overnight.

#35 Posted by stuff238 (802 posts) -

@j2zon2591 said:

1m combined doesn't sound unrealistic.

1m on X1? IDK.. it'll reach that point but probably not overnight.

Yes it will based off hype alone. Xbone owners have no games to play right now. They will flock to it because they are starving for games. If freaking Killzone SF can sell a million with only 4-5 million PS4's, then titanfall can sell a million with 3-4 million xbones off of hype alone.

#36 Posted by Basinboy (11275 posts) -

Hype generated by the stereotype Xbox audience MS has cornered are going to sell at least 4m copies. I'm still not sold on the game based on its conceptual premise.

#37 Posted by WitIsWisdom (3809 posts) -

man this piece of crap is being over hyped to some extent... lol

This game will probably not flop overall, but it will be a MAJOR flop for the levels some people think it will reach..

#38 Edited by remiks00 (1977 posts) -

@Murderstyle75 said:

@remiks00:

Here's the thing though. It's not Microsofts game meaning any advertising done will be from EA.

Its also hard to market a game like this. Activision said that a big reason COD still has a campaign is because its a lot easier to market.

I don't know why Lems care so much anyway. Chance are, the series will eventually go multiplat anyway. Then like Destiny, it becomes irrelevant in SW.

That makes sense, I didn't think about that aspect. Personally, even though I switched to PC gaming for this new gen, I'm more excited about Destiny; which is currently only announced for consoles. It's one of the many reasons I bought a PS4 (Japanese titles, and Naughty Dog).

Titanfall is being extremely overhyped on here though. Although, I hope the game is good, looks fun.

#39 Edited by Couth_ (10206 posts) -

@Murderstyle75 said:

@remiks00:

Here's the thing though. It's not Microsofts game meaning any advertising done will be from EA.

Its also hard to market a game like this. Activision said that a big reason COD still has a campaign is because its a lot easier to market.

I don't know why Lems care so much anyway. Chance are, the series will eventually go multiplat anyway. Then like Destiny, it becomes irrelevant in SW.

EA made a deal with Microsoft to market the game. Microsoft will handle the bill for the marketing.. Expect ads to be everywhere, and the series is already multiplat. It will have no problem hitting 1 million..

#40 Edited by nhh18 (6538 posts) -

@j2zon2591 said:

1m combined doesn't sound unrealistic.

1m on X1? IDK.. it'll reach that point but probably not overnight.

1m npd first month combined. Do you understand how big a game has to be to get in the 2 million range. Mass Effect 3 did 1.3 million. Do you think this game will do better first month? Do you expect that titanfall is going to sell gazillion because you say so? Bioshock Infinite only sold 878 first month. Do you understand how unrealistic xbox fans are about this game?

#41 Edited by HalcyonScarlet (4661 posts) -

"saving the xbox one" some people take this stuff way too seriously.

Fanboys don't want to admit it, but X1 has had a healthy launch and there is no indications that it needs saving.

#42 Posted by kuu2 (7520 posts) -

@shawn30 said:

Cows fear of Titanfall is amazing, lol.

Its really not. Cows have shown to be the biggest cowards for the last gen and even since the announcement of Sony selling 4.2 million systems. Every post they make wreaks of fear and desperation. December NPD was a wake up call for Cows that thought the PauperStation4 was going to run away with things. This gen is going to be a dog fight and Sony better buckle down.

Titanfall is a system seller and MSoft yet again has great games at launch and within the first year. Hey at least Sony has 1.8tflops and self proclaimed stronger console without actual games to prove it.

TITANFALL COMETH!!!!!!!!

And no it won't sell a million in its first month, that is a ridiculous number for a brand new franchise.

#43 Edited by KungfuKitten (21217 posts) -

If it's actually a good game, which is not guaranteed with all the consolite reviewers praising it, then I can see it do much better on PC than on consoles.

#44 Posted by KratosYOLOSwag (756 posts) -

I'm expecting 2 million on xbone alone day 1 US, 10/10 on every site, and title for best game and exclusive of the generation.

#45 Edited by EG101 (875 posts) -

@Murderstyle75 said:

@remiks00:

Here's the thing though. It's not Microsofts game meaning any advertising done will be from EA.

Its also hard to market a game like this. Activision said that a big reason COD still has a campaign is because its a lot easier to market.

I don't know why Lems care so much anyway. Chance are, the series will eventually go multiplat anyway. Then like Destiny, it becomes irrelevant in SW.

Both Sony and M.S. have advertised 3rd Party games in the past so I don't see why MS wouldn't advertise T.F. which is a game that is NOT available on Sony consoles. Titan Fall is an advantage for XB right now as you can't buy it on a Sony console yet and you have no idea if it will release down the line for Sony consoles as you don't know the terms of the contract.

Back to topic. No one can guess what the effects of TitanFall are going to be as there has never been a Titanfall in the past and New IP rarely start off strong. Usually takes a bit of word of mouth for New IP to take off. I don't expect much of a bump for Titanfall at all. I do expect T.F. to do well with XB1's existing base.

#46 Edited by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@nhh18 said:

Every game journalist talks out of his ass. It is a hyped game that they like so it will likely score well. I am talking about something else entirely, not the metacritc score but how much it will sell first month. The best selling game in march is super smash brawl but outside of that march hasn't had many games outsell a million. So I have no idea why people are thinking that it is going to break march sales records. If they delay it (which they should) to November, and December. I expect it would sell 1.5 million first month. They chose a weird date to release a big title. Also lemmings are the worlds dumbest animal so it isn't any surprise that people think that I am envious about this game.

You realize they would have more competition if the released it in the fall right? Maybe you werent around in 2007/2008 when great new ip's like Dead Space, Mass Effect and Mirrors Edge saw dismal sales due to an overcrowded lineup of fall games.

GTA 4 came out in an April and GTA V was originally set for a spring release. Great games sell well no matter when theyre released.

EA surely doesnt want to start promoting the hell out of Titanfall when BF 4 has only been out for a couple of months. Marketing campaign should go into full swing in mid to late Feb.

#47 Posted by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@KungfuKitten said:

If it's actually a good game, which is not guaranteed with all the consolite reviewers praising it, then I can see it do much better on PC than on consoles.

Why? This game should appeal to COD fans the most. Only shooters from valve sell better on pc.

#48 Edited by KungfuKitten (21217 posts) -

@Cranler:

I just don't think that this is going to be like COD. I don't equate COD to a good game. I find killstreaks to be shoddy game design and the way they treated fans by splitting the userbase with the overly expensive mappacks and the yearly reiterations and the overall cheap feeling of the campaigns (the game trying too hard to make you feel like you are awesome while you didn't actually do anything of interest like so many cinematic games these days). And the broken fake lag they put in the games and the lack of server filters or browser in some cases. And the stoneage gamedesign with their invisible walls and retro graphics and incredibly overly obviously scripted events and the god awful spawnpoints for both AI and players and the very inconsistent quality of the modes they add like they don't care.

I'm kinda hoping that Titanfall won't be anything like COD. Those sound like Activision decisions more so then Infinity Ward decisions.

#50 Edited by Cranler (8809 posts) -

@kuu2 said:

@shawn30 said:

Cows fear of Titanfall is amazing, lol.

And no it won't sell a million in its first month, that is a ridiculous number for a brand new franchise.

Gears did it.