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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Lot of work went into this, definitely deserve some props, but three months before the game comes out? Business of early hype threads is rather strange but nevertheless, I'm going to go with AA.djsifer01
KZ3 has improved in every possible way from KZ2, how can you call AA? Oh thats right, the PS3 hater is shinning through. What i real dont get about you is, the PS3 has some of the best games this gen. How can you hate a console with games as good as the PS3 has if your a gamer?

Mmm. Delicious. Improvement? How large of an improvement over Killzone 2. From what I've seen, not much. I didn't find Killzone 2 to be anything noteworthy. I didn't believe that hype, if you know what I mean.But if predicting the PS3 will geta great game is hating then I must have entered the twilight zone -- I must have really been hating on the Wii this year when I hype a few games getting AA. But a Las, as the good ol' dog GIF states: deal with it. (Can't link it unfortunately, limited onmy phone)Mmm. But Sorry, had to grab a new jar if you know what I mean, my other ones were filled up already yet more keeps flooding in, I just can't keep up!. I love it. :D

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[QUOTE="djsifer01"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Lot of work went into this, definitely deserve some props, but three months before the game comes out? Business of early hype threads is rather strange but nevertheless, I'm going to go with AA.Stevo_the_gamer

KZ3 has improved in every possible way from KZ2, how can you call AA? Oh thats right, the PS3 hater is shinning through. What i real dont get about you is, the PS3 has some of the best games this gen. How can you hate a console with games as good as the PS3 has if your a gamer?

Mmm. Delicious. Improvement? How large of an improvement over Killzone 2. From what I've seen, not much. I didn't find Killzone 2 to be anything noteworthy. I didn't believe that hype, if you know what I mean.But if predicting the PS3 will geta great game is hating then I must have entered the twilight zone -- I must have really been hating on the Wii this year when I hype a few games getting AA. But a Las, as the good ol' dog GIF states: deal with it. (Can't link it unfortunately, limited onmy phone)Mmm. But Sorry, had to grab a new jar if you know what I mean, my other ones were filled up already yet more keeps flooding in, I just can't keep up!. I love it. :D

love your sig bro :lol:
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#203 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

[QUOTE="Vader993"]

Killzone 3 Beta - Brutal Melee Analysis

interesting vid i found

Vader993

Melee in KZ has always been a pleasant contrast to other FPSs. Especially games like Black Ops (don't get me started on Commando in MW2! :P), where the lunging / magnetic attraction is very annoying and unbalanced. I wish the normal gun butts would take 2 hits to kill a target, like KZ2, instead of 1 though.

or they could do this your opponent must be damaged to be killed by a melee

Yeah, I was thinking the same. I like how melee is handled in Reach. It's similar to KZ3, but it takes to gun butts to kill and enemy. And there's lunging, but it's not as bad as other games like Black Ops.

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#204 Ribnarak
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woooownice thread .

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#205 TintedEyes
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Legendary thread man, its getting AAA.
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#206 Bazooka_4ME
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This thread should heal up some injuries from GT5's damage... :lol: Anyway, here's still hoping they keep the aiming from KZ2 to KZ3. Some n00bs really need to start playing more challenging games.
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#207 Couth_
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Hopefully the 3D in KZ3 is better than it is in GT5. Heard good things about it
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#208 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]This thread should heal up some injuries from GT5's damage... :lol: Anyway, here's still hoping they keep the aiming from KZ2 to KZ3. Some n00bs really need to start playing more challenging games.

Nah it's changed, more emphasis on aiming down sights, no real need to burst fire anymore like in KZ2, spraying does the job since there is less recoil and people die faster than in Killzone 2.
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#209 Vader993
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[QUOTE="Vader993"]

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

Melee in KZ has always been a pleasant contrast to other FPSs. Especially games like Black Ops (don't get me started on Commando in MW2! :P), where the lunging / magnetic attraction is very annoying and unbalanced. I wish the normal gun butts would take 2 hits to kill a target, like KZ2, instead of 1 though.

Episode_Eve

or they could do this your opponent must be damaged to be killed by a melee

Yeah, I was thinking the same. I like how melee is handled in Reach. It's similar to KZ3, but it takes to gun butts to kill and enemy. And there's lunging, but it's not as bad as other games like Black Ops.

not logical either,i can't understand how a simple riflebutt attack kills a grown man

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#210 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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love your sig bro :lol: Dead-Memories
Not everyone loves it though... :P
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#211 Giancar
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ugghhh lems are on a roll these days anyways, are you gonna make a Swag 2 union?
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#212 Vader993
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''What we're trying to do with this one is to stretch our legs more and show not necessarily both sides of the equation of why this war is going on, but show that there's a face behind the mask," said Michael Graham, Associate Producer at Sony Santa Monica. ". The Helghast are there and they have this iconic image, but at this point in time, it's always been Emperor Visari as the only un-helmeted Helghast you saw so it was tough to actually view the opponents you're fighting during the course of the franchise as an actual human type entity. We're really stretching out legs and learning how to progress our story telling technique and we're able to tell a more humanistic story – both from the ISA (Interplanetary Strategic Alliance) side and being able to give a glimpse as to what's going on in the Helghast's government structure with this enigmatic leader Visari having been killed."

''The goal for the team at Guerilla Games and Sony was clear from the start, to make this a much more balanced and much more cinematic entry in the long running first person shooter series. Yes, you'll still mow down a ton of enemy soldiers – but now, they're not just faceless enemies, we actually get to learn about their world and motivations, a perplexing idea when the characters in question are so clearly inspired by Nazi forces. "So it's not necessarily seeing both sides of the coin, but you're definitely seeing more motivation and what's going on behind the scenes with the helghast to make them more relatable."

its nice to see guerilla games improving the storytelling of the kz series

http://blastmagazine.com/2010/12/02/all-access-killzone-3/

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#213 Episode_Eve
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ugghhh lems are on a roll these days anyways, are you gonna make a Swag 2 union?Giancar

Yeah, look at the "SWAG" section of the "Extras"! It's actually a reboot, more than a sequel :P.

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''What we're trying to do with this one is to stretch our legs more and show not necessarily both sides of the equation of why this war is going on, but show that there's a face behind the mask," said Michael Graham, Associate Producer at Sony Santa Monica. ". The Helghast are there and they have this iconic image, but at this point in time, it's always been Emperor Visari as the only un-helmeted Helghast you saw so it was tough to actually view the opponents you're fighting during the course of the franchise as an actual human type entity. We're really stretching out legs and learning how to progress our story telling technique and we're able to tell a more humanistic story – both from the ISA (Interplanetary Strategic Alliance) side and being able to give a glimpse as to what's going on in the Helghast's government structure with this enigmatic leader Visari having been killed."

''The goal for the team at Guerilla Games and Sony was clear from the start, to make this a much more balanced and much more cinematic entry in the long running first person shooter series. Yes, you'll still mow down a ton of enemy soldiers – but now, they're not just faceless enemies, we actually get to learn about their world and motivations, a perplexing idea when the characters in question are so clearly inspired by Nazi forces. "So it's not necessarily seeing both sides of the coin, but you're definitely seeing more motivation and what's going on behind the scenes with the helghast to make them more relatable."

its nice to see guerilla games improving the storytelling of the kz series

Link

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honestly, screw the story, or rather, screw the single player altogether. killzone 3 should be a multiplayer focused experience first and foremost imo.
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#215 Vader993
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LOOK AT WHAT I FOUND

it turn out guerilla is fixing the errors in the beta

We want to start off by thanking you for contributing to a successful Public Beta Trial so far. So here goes: "THANK YOU!"


Seriously, thank you for all the time you have spent playing the Beta. Thank you for your honest and sometimes brutal feedback. Thank you for all the creative, workable and sometimes unimaginable, but fun, suggestions. Between all the Devs, we have read all of them and responded to half as many as we would have liked.


Thank you, because we now have what we need. Actually, we have received so much feedback, suggestions and bugs, that the general discussion part of the forum has served its purpose and has been closed. There is enough info on there to make six Killzone games, not just one. We know what your opinions are; we know what you think should be altered or different altogether. And we know what we need to focus on to make Killzone 3 all it can be when it launches in February 2011!


During this Beta we've had a good mix of participants to help us out: people who were new to the franchise, but also a lot of hardcore Killzone 2 veterans. To those of you in the latter group, please know that we recognize your share in keeping the Killzone community alive and bringing new players to the game. We appreciate your continued support and feedback. Your comments on features such as Matchmaking, Controls, Server lists (or Custom Games) and Tactical Spawn Areas (or Spawn grenades) have been most valuable.


And while we may not be able to implement every suggestion you've offered (for instance we can't "…just implement Killzone 2 spawn grenades-code" – that's just not how it works!) that doesn't mean that we aren't listening to you. Your comments and suggestions form the basis for the changes we are currently making to Killzone 3, along with your bug reports and telemetry data from the game.


While it's impossible to specify every fix, update and change that we are working on, the game is already in a much better state than what you are playing now. We would have loved to bring all of these changes to you via additional patches, but this would have taken us a lot of time that we've chosen to spend on development, fixes and tweaks instead. We will continue to incorporate your feedback up until launch, so the next time you see Killzone 3 it will be a much-improved experience.


We have already improved on a number of things that you listed. These are just a few:


• Matchmaking improvements - lots and ongoing

• Tactical Spawn Areas - functionality and additional TSA's where needed

• Weapon damage, recoil and range

• Weapon distribution over careers

• Added Weapons

• Exo's - count, health regeneration and damage

• Spawn camping

• Career Abilities (like Recon)

• HUD icons, readability, options

• Tweaked turrets, sentries and drones

• Running speed, stamina tweaks

• Player health


Finally, it's important to note that we're nearing the end of the Public Beta Trial. We do not know exactly when the beta will shut down yet. But somewhere in the next couple of weeks the online service will be discontinued. The good news is that you will still be able to play and practice in Botzone after the Beta ends.


The Bug Section will be still open to report bugs. So you can still report issues. Also, don't be afraid to use theSurveywe've set up.


In the meantime, have fun with the Beta. And be nice to the new people coming on board! We hope to see you all in February 2011.

http://community.killzone.com/t5/Killzone-3-PS3/GG-Says-THANK-YOU-MUST-READ/td-p/559623

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#216 Deathtransit
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I have to admit this epic hype thread has increased my hype for this game. :)
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#217 campzor
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AAAE for me...loved everything about the first (besides the controls)
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#218 inggrish
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wow, impressive hype thread! Well done! You need a poll though ;) .

Im thinking Killzone 3 will not get as good a response from the critics, but will still score well, Im going to go with an 8.5/9.0

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#219 Urworstnhtmare
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The effort put into this is incredible.

KZ3 looks set to be mean.

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#220 emperorzhang66
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1-2 players offline :O ok i'm getting a ps3 just for this again.
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#221 FIipMode
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I have to admit this epic hype thread has increased my hype for this game. :)Deathtransit
Same, I'm actually looking forward to the single player.
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#222 ironcreed
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Just got back from Gamestop and pre-ordered and paid KZ3 off while I was there. I'll go ahead and be brave and say it gets a 9.5.

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#223 johny300
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Wow this is just amazing, the best thread.
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#224 johny300
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Is this the hype thread?
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#225 Szminsky
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Probably the best hype thread in the history of gamespot... and I've been here since 2003/4. Well done TC!

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#226 ironcreed
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I forgot to mention that this is a fantastic thread. Well done indeed, sir.

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#227 Vader993
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Is this the hype thread?johny300

no its a hypezone8)

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#228 Ratchet_Fan8
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I dont trust Guerrila games.So even though this does look great (move and 3d,which i have) im still not sure.Guerrila does not have any good writers,most of the dialoug is straight up swearing from the @$$.It killed the game for me. It had the worst characters in the game,i hated all of them.Especially Sev,Natko,Rico,Garza,General,ScholarVisari,soldiers,lady and some stupid ISA soldiers. MP was tad boring,just not my thing. I guess the only shooters i like is Resistance,B0rderlands and Bioshock(Single Player ONLY!!!)
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#229 nervmeister
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I dont trust Guerrila games.So even though this does look great (move and 3d,which i have) im still not sure.Guerrila does not have any good writers,most of the dialoug is straight up swearing from the @$$.It killed the game for me.Ratchet_Fan8
Guerilla said the swearing will be toned down in this installment.
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[QUOTE="Ratchet_Fan8"]I dont trust Guerrila games.So even though this does look great (move and 3d,which i have) im still not sure.Guerrila does not have any good writers,most of the dialoug is straight up swearing from the @$$.It killed the game for me.nervmeister
Guerilla said the swearing will be toned down in this installment.

If you get to kill Rico, it might just be the best game next year.
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="Ratchet_Fan8"]If you get to kill Rico, it might just be the best game next year.Stevo_the_gamer
If you get to kill sev (I'd rather have another NATHAN!) then it would be GOTY,Halo killer,best moment of the year. Also your sig is a big kick in da balls! :P
[QUOTE="Ratchet_Fan8"]I dont trust Guerrila games.So even though this does look great (move and 3d,which i have) im still not sure.Guerrila does not have any good writers,most of the dialoug is straight up swearing from the @$$.It killed the game for me.nervmeister
Guerilla said the swearing will be toned down in this installment.

But the horrible,uninteresting,crappy ugly characters still remain in the game
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#232 gamerfan85
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Killzone 3 + PS Move + THIS = can't wait

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#233 Vader993
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

Reserved

OK ITS SAFE TO POST :).

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"1-2 players offline" MIND = BLOWN

almost forgot that's not official,kz3 having splitscreen

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[QUOTE="RavenLoud"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

Reserved

OK ITS SAFE TO POST :).

Vader993

"1-2 players offline" MIND = BLOWN

almost forgot that's not official,kz3 having splitscreen

Yeah, that was a "leaked" photo of the game specs. I hope it makes it in, but don't take it as concrete yet. I'll tell Treal to edit it out for now!

Also, Vader, I read GG's report the other night :). Very good to hear!

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#235 Episode_Eve
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Found this on Gaf!

Apparently, we get to take out (and possibly board?) that giant-ass robot :P. Could this be the "boss on top of a boss" that Guerrilla was referring to? They said they looked at God Of War 3, and that specific interaction is what inspired them.

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#236 Vader993
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holy **** good find, guerilla games wasn't kidding when they ment larger set pieces:shock:

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#237 cainetao11
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As a KZ fan ( I liked 1, LOVED 2 and Liberation) I am Psyched for 3!!! I hope I get to play it before getting shipped out with the Army!
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#238 SPBoss
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Killzone 3 + PS Move + THIS = can't wait

gamerfan85
That thing is lame lol, novitec falcon is a much better controller
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#239 shutdown_202
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I really reccommend people read Killzone backstory. I read it earlier in the year and its very interesting stuff. I gurantee it'll make you like the Helghast a bit more.

On another note, ive been playing KZ2 (online) alot over the past few months and does anyone else here think the game gets worse as you rank up? I felt that games were alot better at the lower ranks, but with the higher ones (playing with higher people) you start seeing spys, alot more drones, alot more turrets and more rushing. Im sure there are people that like that but to me it just made the game really random.

Does anyone else hope we get another Visari speech? Yeah he's dead but it wouldnt be Killzone without one. Always gets me pumped whenever i hear it playing during start up.

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#240 Ratchet_Fan8
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Found this on Gaf!

Apparently, we get to take out (and possibly board?) that giant-ass robot :P. Could this be the "boss on top of a boss" that Guerrilla was referring to? They said they looked at God Of War 3, and that specific interaction is what inspired them.

Episode_Eve

wow a sentence sppoken by an ISA troop that didnt swear! :o

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#241 Swift_Boss_A
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The brutal melee moves look really awesome, hmm you know I will only buy KZ3 if the SP experience is varied and on par with Uncharted 2 or GOW3. Or if the game gets a 10, lol.
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#242 jg4xchamp
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My hype: The single player will suck, but the multiplayer should be fun. Score Prediction: 9.0/ AAA
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#243 FIipMode
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Here is another picture from that big boss battle Eve posted,

http://www.nextgn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/photo.jpg

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#244 TREAL_Since
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WOAH! I'm back in town to find so many posts. Thanks to everyone for your admiration for the thread and of course your anticipation for the game!

I spent a good amount of time on it, but it wasn't strenuous. If something is a hobby of yours you'll find that spending time on it goes by in an instant. I love photoshop and always thought I'd have a great chance with the Ironshop competition on Gamespot. Sadly, I don't have the time and I'm busy with personal projects and work for clients.

I personally like this more than the Halo Reach thread I put together. Its no secret that I like Killzone more, but that's not the reason. I think this one looks better overall. But unlike Bungie, Guerrilla Games doesn't really give information on their game. You have to hunt for pics and details yourself. I commend Bungie for the order in which they reveal their games. They are great at keeping up excitement for their games by systematically giving us juicy info leading to release.

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As for the game... I predict AAA 9.0.

Multiplayer: Has become the bread and butter of the franchise. MP will be more accessible while providing some crazy action and depth. After playing the beta I see there are many things they need to change and improve. Luckily, they've already addressed 80% them!

Single player: Will surprise us. I'm sure of it. No... it probably won't be able to stand alone as a single player only game. The new mechanics, bigger environments, more focus on story, and variety in objectives will make it leagues beyond what KZ2 was. I'm a fortune teller like some of you may know. My predictions just about always come to reality lol.


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#245 PiGsCaNFIy
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what was some of the bad things about the beta anyone?

i didn't try any killzone games yet, but im looking forward to this one so can you tell me some of its flaws?

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#246 fabz_95
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Awesome thread, I love KZ2 so I'm pretty hyped for this. In fact, I think I'll go play it later thanks to this thread.
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#247 _SWAG_
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i really really love these hype threads made by anti hype created by hype to create hype to deliver hype i love it but wheres the poll hmmm

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#248 TREAL_Since
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what was some of the bad things about the beta anyone?

i didn't try any killzone games yet and going to look forward to this one but want to know some of the flaws.

PiGsCaNFIy

Weapons were unbalanced. The ISA LMG was overpowered with no recoil. The SMG had no recoil. Tactician's Recon ability detected people through walls. There were too few Tactical Spawn Areas on the map. Base raping with the Exo suit. Various career abilities were unbalanced.

They address all of these issues along with a bunch of bugs. The feedback from the Beta was insane and they have enough info and wishes from the community to make 4 more Killzone games lol. This is why betas are VERY important!

Oh, I'll be adding a poll in about 30 seconds lol. Thanks for the reminder I love the smell of troll odor in the morning mmmmm!

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Found this on Gaf!

Apparently, we get to take out (and possibly board?) that giant-ass robot :P. Could this be the "boss on top of a boss" that Guerrilla was referring to? They said they looked at God Of War 3, and that specific interaction is what inspired them.Episode_Eve

I hope it's not as linear as the Leviathan fight in Resistance 2

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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

Found this on Gaf!

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Apparently, we get to take out (and possibly board?) that giant-ass robot :P. Could this be the "boss on top of a boss" that Guerrilla was referring to? They said they looked at God Of War 3, and that specific interaction is what inspired them.

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wow a sentence sppoken by an ISA troop that didnt swear! :o

Fix'd :P

Anyway, KZ3 sounds pretty interesting