Killzone 3 will outscore Halo: Reach. New FPS king!!

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#101 XEviscerateX
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Nope Killzone will always play second fiddle to Halo in every way, I dont know why thats so hard for you cow's to swallow.Sp4rtan_3
Halo has proven to be better, but not in every way. That is a very bold statement. 1 way is graphics, everything else is subjective.
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#102 Cloud567kar
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Not on Gamespot. That would require AAAA. No, Killzone 3 will beat Reach's disappointing 91 Metascore (incidentally the same score Killzone 2 got).

Agree, disagree? Voice your opinion via the poll above :D

Edit: nuts. I forgot to put "Rico sucks!" in the poll :lol:

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Counter Strike will still own that title.
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#103 Mattizzle815
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Not on Gamespot. That would require AAAA. No, Killzone 3 will beat Reach's disappointing 91 Metascore (incidentally the same score Killzone 2 got).

Agree, disagree? Voice your opinion via the poll above :D

Edit: nuts. I forgot to put "Rico sucks!" in the poll :lol:

EliteKitteh

Reach was never "FPS King" and how is 91 a bad score?

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#104 WilliamRLBaker
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I predict that it will score 9.0 scoring below it, or 9.5 matching it...But it will be some major ownage if it doesn't...almost a year after halo reaches release if it doesn't score atleast AAA then Cows will destroyed on system wars.


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#105 tbolt76
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killzone3 will be the best shooter this gen. its has 3d, move support, coop splitscreen, dedicated servers and more. its going to sell boatloads and score boatloads tooo can not wait any longer!

_SWAG_
Too bad it wont have boatloads playing.
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#106 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="EliteKitteh"]

But sadly, unless your opinion is listed on Metacritic it means diddly squat here.

EliteKitteh

Nice fantasy right there. :? Something has to be tabulated on Metacritic to be valid? Since when? All of a sudden videogame 'journalists' are the highest tier of credibility?

Sit down :roll: you know how this works by now.

evidently, you don't. gamespot scores are what we go by here. otherwise, halo wars didn't flop. as for kz3, I am psyched for it, and hope it is at least a 9.5 here.
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#107 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="EliteKitteh"]

But sadly, unless your opinion is listed on Metacritic it means diddly squat here.

EliteKitteh

Nice fantasy right there. :? Something has to be tabulated on Metacritic to be valid? Since when? All of a sudden videogame 'journalists' are the highest tier of credibility?

Sit down :roll: you know how this works by now.

evidently, you don't. gamespot scores are what we go by here. otherwise, halo wars didn't flop. as for kz3, I am psyched for it, and hope it is at least a 9.5 here.
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#108 oldkingallant
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Overall? Maybe. Here at Gamespot? Hell no it's not getting a 10.

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#109 tastetheacidmil
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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]This Killzone 3 hype is sounding A LOT like the GT5 hype when cow's were saying the same thing about it destroying the competitors, graphics,gameplay ect ect. And we all know how that turned out ;)

lol they never learn, from the past games they have hyped you would think they would learn by now
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#111 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

killzone3 will be the best shooter this gen. its has 3d, move support, coop splitscreen, dedicated servers and more. its going to sell boatloads and score boatloads tooo can not wait any longer!

tbolt76
Too bad it wont have boatloads playing.

Couldn't care less as long as I'm enjoying it. :)
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#112 walkingdream
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I really don't care if it does because Halo:R is a great game. And personally lots of those reviewers are just sick of Halo and gave it lower scores IMO.
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#113 killa4lyfe
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[QUOTE="EliteKitteh"]

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Nope Killzone will always play second fiddle to Halo in every way, I dont know why thats so hard for you cow's to swallow.Sp4rtan_3

What about graphics? :shock:

Graphics are fine and dandy but I enjoys Halo art style better then Killzones grey and bland style. Plus playing games for graphics is :lol: worthy.

What are you talking about? Have you even played Killzone 2 or 3 (beta to be specific)? You might like Halo's art style is better but in NO WAY is killzone bland. :|
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#114 LenGen
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kz3 looks and probably plays exactly like KZ2, and it still has that horrible death animation. the gameplay is way too slow and not in a tactical way but in a really boring way. terrible spawn system, u have to spend like 1 minute running to get to where the action is after every death. i had to force myself to achieve general in kz2 because the gameplay was THAT BORING. im not sure how much kz2 sold (around 3m?) but the online community ditched it so fast because of the heavy feel, sluggish gameplay, and lack of FUN. i really hope the gameplay is changed and x10 times faster but from what beta testers are saying, its the same game which is a BAD thing. to answer the question: Highly Doubtful
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#115 ZoomZoom2490
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if game standards were thrown in for Reach it would of been lucky to get 7.5

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#116 ZoomZoom2490
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kz3 looks and probably plays exactly like KZ2, and it still has that horrible death animation. the gameplay is way too slow and not in a tactical way but in a really boring way. terrible spawn system, u have to spend like 1 minute running to get to where the action is after every death. i had to force myself to achieve general in kz2 because the gameplay was THAT BORING. im not sure how much kz2 sold (around 3m?) but the online community ditched it so fast because of the heavy feel, sluggish gameplay, and lack of FUN. i really hope the gameplay is changed and x10 times faster but from what beta testers are saying, its the same game which is a BAD thing. to answer the question: Highly DoubtfulLenGen
Reach plays exacly like Halo1 but that doesnt stop some review sources, cough, cough to remain AAA, not that i agree with it.

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#117 tormentos
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I predict that it will score 9.0 scoring below it, or 9.5 matching it...But it will be some major ownage if it doesn't...almost a year after halo reaches release if it doesn't score atleast AAA then Cows will destroyed on system wars. strong strong br strongWilliamRLBaker
By gamespot who knows but this site blessed halo odst with a 9.0 yet they rate resistance 8.6,yet in both metacritics and gamerankings resistance is higher rated than odst. Scores mean little this days gt5 scored low,but nit lower than fable 3 did,and no one has die on both sides.
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#118 abuabed
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Nope, it will be 8.5 or 9.0 max but I'll enjoy it.
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#119 ZoomZoom2490
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]I predict that it will score 9.0 scoring below it, or 9.5 matching it...But it will be some major ownage if it doesn't...almost a year after halo reaches release if it doesn't score atleast AAA then Cows will destroyed on system wars. strong strong br strongtormentos
By gamespot who knows but this site blessed halo odst with a 9.0 yet they rate resistance 8.6,yet in both metacritics and gamerankings resistance is higher rated than odst. Scores mean little this days gt5 scored low,but nit lower than fable 3 did,and no one has die on both sides.

the problem with halo games is that standards are never thrown in for some reason. the game still runs on halo2 engine for crying out loud, lol.
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#120 Anastasia1997
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Nope Killzone will always play second fiddle to Halo in every way, I dont know why thats so hard for you cow's to swallow.Sp4rtan_3
In every way? Technically, it destroys Halo, and KZ2 had much better multiplayer than Halo 3's stale offerings...Gameplay is arguably much better in KZ2, since the technical aspects greatly enhance the experience, let alone the fantastic gunplay itself, but the controls turned off many people (An area H3 excels at for allowing casuals to easily grasp the gameplay). Kz2 also has much more content and mechanics in its MP, with Reach only offering cosmetic armour as incentive (And its gameplay) :?
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#121 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="LenGen"]kz3 looks and probably plays exactly like KZ2, and it still has that horrible death animation. the gameplay is way too slow and not in a tactical way but in a really boring way. terrible spawn system, u have to spend like 1 minute running to get to where the action is after every death. i had to force myself to achieve general in kz2 because the gameplay was THAT BORING. im not sure how much kz2 sold (around 3m?) but the online community ditched it so fast because of the heavy feel, sluggish gameplay, and lack of FUN. i really hope the gameplay is changed and x10 times faster but from what beta testers are saying, its the same game which is a BAD thing. to answer the question: Highly DoubtfulZoomZoom2490

Reach plays exacly like Halo1 but that doesnt stop some review sources, cough, cough to remain AAA, not that i agree with it.

Have you even played Halo: Reach? If you had, you wouldn't be saying it plays exactly like Halo 1, because it doesn't. :|
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#122 blaznwiipspman1
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just like gt5 outscored forza 3 right

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#123 EliteKitteh
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just like gt5 outscored forza 3 right

blaznwiipspman1

No.

More like how Uncharted 2 outscored Gears 2.

And how LittleBigPlanet outscored Banjo.

And how inFamous outscored Crackdown 2.

And how MGS4 outscored Convinction.

And how God of War 3 outscored Ninja Gaiden 2.

And how Sports Champions outscored Kinect Sports.

And how Heavy Rain outscored Alan Wake.

;)

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#124 Chutebox
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91% is never disappointing and who knows.

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#125 VALikimlav
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If you ever played any of the Killzone games, I don't know how you could possibly say that it could beat Halo in any regard. Killzone 1 and 2 both were terrible. Halo is the best of the genre (along with Half-Life 2).
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#126 krunkfu2
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Unless the game heavily differs from 2 I'll probably hate it

No way reach is fps king

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#127 Sp4rtan_3
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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"][QUOTE="EliteKitteh"]

What about graphics? :shock:

killa4lyfe

Graphics are fine and dandy but I enjoys Halo art style better then Killzones grey and bland style. Plus playing games for graphics is :lol: worthy.

What are you talking about? Have you even played Killzone 2 or 3 (beta to be specific)? You might like Halo's art style is better but in NO WAY is killzone bland. :|

I've played KZ2 I dont have a ps3 so I havent played KZ3 or the beta.

But from what Ive seen it looks just as bland and boring as all the other ones. You KZ fans can love it thats your opinion im not trying to stop you from liking your game.

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#128 gamedude234
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[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

just like gt5 outscored forza 3 right

EliteKitteh

No.

More like how Uncharted 2 outscored Gears 2.

And how LittleBigPlanet outscored Banjo.

And how inFamous outscored Crackdown 2.

And how MGS4 outscored Convinction.

And how God of War 3 outscored Ninja Gaiden 2.

And how Sports Champions outscored Kinect Sports.

And how Heavy Rain outscored Alan Wake.

;)

1. heavy rain didn't outscore alan wake:|

2. sports champions? :lol:

3. how are any of those games comparable?

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#129 Antantics
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I dont care. Reach surprised me as a non Halo fan as it was a solid FPS with a good story (the first one Ive enjoyed since CE). KZ3 will hopefully be as enjoyable as the second one if it is then Ill enjoy it.

So both games will rock my collections and a review wont change that

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#130 Filthybastrd
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As far as I'm concerned, Crysis is better than both KZ and Halo while also looking a full generation ahead.

That being said KZ3 does look good while Halo: Reach looks like the same game released for the 5'th time.

TLDR: Crysis is FPS King and GFX KING as well.

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#131 NAPK1NS
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Killzone 3 will NOT get a 10, man.
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#132 FIipMode
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Killzone 3 will NOT get a 10, man. NAPK1NS
He just means on aggregate sites.
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#133 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

just like gt5 outscored forza 3 right

EliteKitteh

No.

More like how Uncharted 2 outscored Gears 2.

And how LittleBigPlanet outscored Banjo.

And how inFamous outscored Crackdown 2.

And how MGS4 outscored Convinction.

And how God of War 3 outscored Ninja Gaiden 2.

And how Sports Champions outscored Kinect Sports.

And how Heavy Rain outscored Alan Wake.

;)

Like How Halo 3 outscored God of War 3?

See, I can compare two different generes too;)

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#134 Anastasia1997
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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

As far as I'm concerned, Crysis is better than both KZ and Halo while also looking a full generation ahead.

That being said KZ3 does look good while Halo: Reach looks like the same game released for the 5'th time.

TLDR: Crysis is FPS King and GFX KING as well.

Crysis isnt a full gen ahead KZ2/3, since there are aspects of KZ2/3 that look much better graphically than Crysis (Not generally)
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#135 racing1750
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It will likely overtake Reach's MC. On GS obviously not, but If KZ3 plays well, has a solid MP like before, then a 9.5 on here is possible.
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#136 Anastasia1997
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="EliteKitteh"]

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

just like gt5 outscored forza 3 right

No.

More like how Uncharted 2 outscored Gears 2.

And how LittleBigPlanet outscored Banjo.

And how inFamous outscored Crackdown 2.

And how MGS4 outscored Convinction.

And how God of War 3 outscored Ninja Gaiden 2.

And how Sports Champions outscored Kinect Sports.

And how Heavy Rain outscored Alan Wake.

;)

Like How Halo 3 outscored God of War 3?

See, I can compare two different generes too;)

uhhh, how are the game he listed different genres :/
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#137 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="EliteKitteh"]

No.

More like how Uncharted 2 outscored Gears 2.

And how LittleBigPlanet outscored Banjo.

And how inFamous outscored Crackdown 2.

And how MGS4 outscored Convinction.

And how God of War 3 outscored Ninja Gaiden 2.

And how Sports Champions outscored Kinect Sports.

And how Heavy Rain outscored Alan Wake.

;)

Anastasia1997

Like How Halo 3 outscored God of War 3?

See, I can compare two different generes too;)

uhhh, how are the game he listed different genres :/

Highlighted it just for you

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#138 Anastasia1997
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Like How Halo 3 outscored God of War 3?

See, I can compare two different generes too;)

uhhh, how are the game he listed different genres :/

Highlighted it just for you

U2 is a TPS though, but ya for HR and AW
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#139 Hazzard6X
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No, in fact I don't even think it'll be AAA.

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#140 Ilikemyname420
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[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Like How Halo 3 outscored God of War 3?

See, I can compare two different generes too;)

DroidPhysX

uhhh, how are the game he listed different genres :/

Highlighted it just for you

Can add the LBP and banjo comparison too. Banjo kazooie Nuts and bolts wasn't a platformer.

Crackdown 2 and Infamous as well. They are both sand-box I guess but crackdown 2 was a third person shooter.

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#141 alfredooo
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KZ3 has no chance on GS, it will a 8.5-9.0 here.

It might score higher or lower than Reach on MC, we can't really predict that since MC is full of crap for the most part.

Games get perfect scores from magazines such PS lifestyle or Official Xbox Magazine, while getting 50's from random sites trying to get hits.

One of the reviews for Reach said the SP was cheap because enemies have infinite ammo on their guns and when you pick up the same guns you can run out of ammo.

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#142 Grawse
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Doubt Killzone 2 with snow and more brown will outscore Reach even on MC. Won't have the player base like Halo Reach's too. It will be left out to dry like Killzone 2.

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#143 gamedude234
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As far as I'm concerned, Crysis is better than both KZ and Halo while also looking a full generation ahead.

That being said KZ3 does look good while Halo: Reach looks like the same game released for the 5'th time.

TLDR: Crysis is FPS King and GFX KING as well.

Filthybastrd

and KZ3 isn't?:lol: and reach is far different from other halo games.

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#144 falconclan
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As the 150th poster its probably too late for anyone to care about my opinion as I'm sure the thread has broken off into other arguements but I'd like to say that it isn't likely.

Don't get me wrong, I'll be getting it, but killzone just isn't a juggernaut like Halo is. Its news to me that Halo is the FPS king anyways, I think Call of Duty probably deserves that award regardless of how generic and stupid I think the series has become. Sales and scores.

I just don't think Killzone is as good as Halo, sorry. (Coming from someone whose coworkers call him a Sony fanboy)

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#145 xYamatox
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It seems as though not enough people got a look at the leaked Single Player footage (that was nothing less than amazing), and the fact that it practically confirmed co-op campaign. Kz3 IS getting a 9 or highier (wouldn't be suprised one bit if it hit 9.5), I can almost guarantee it.

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#146 falconclan
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It seems as though not enough people got a look at the leaked Single Player footage (that was nothing less than amazing), and the fact that it practically confirmed co-op campaign. Kz3 IS getting a 9 or highier (wouldn't be suprised one bit if it hit 9.5), I can almost guarantee it.

xYamatox

You are putting a lot of stake on a series that has been iffy from the start. The second one looked awesome, it played alright, and it sold well, so I'll give it that, but saying it will get a 9.5 may be throwing yourself off a cliff.

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#147 xYamatox
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[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

It seems as though not enough people got a look at the leaked Single Player footage (that was nothing less than amazing), and the fact that it practically confirmed co-op campaign. Kz3 IS getting a 9 or highier (wouldn't be suprised one bit if it hit 9.5), I can almost guarantee it.

falconclan

You are putting a lot of stake on a series that has been iffy from the start. The second one looked awesome, it played alright, and it sold well, so I'll give it that, but saying it will get a 9.5 may be throwing yourself off a cliff.

I was one of the lucky few who got to beta test Kz3. While the beta had it's issues of it's own, Guerrilla Games handle the negative critisizm better then any dev I've ever seen, and made a grocery list of things they have confirmed will be fixed with the final release, based on what fans had to say.

Also, I'm not one to judge a game based on it's pedigree. I learned my lession with Devil May Cry 2. You can NEVER base success or failure of a new game in development just because it had success in the past. Final Fantasy, Devil May Cry, Farcry, FEAR, Halo Wars, Socom, and many other series are living proof of this. Each game is a whole new possibility of failure or success, and from what we've seen on Killzone 3, the game looks nothing less than amazing.

My positive optimism might not be shared among a lot of gamers (and might be flat out wrong come Feb. 22), but do know almost EVERY issue people had with previous Killzone titles have at LEAST been taken into consideration by Guerrilla Games.

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#148 supdotcom
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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

As far as I'm concerned, Crysis is better than both KZ and Halo while also looking a full generation ahead.

That being said KZ3 does look good while Halo: Reach looks like the same game released for the 5'th time.

TLDR: Crysis is FPS King and GFX KING as well.

gamedude234

and KZ3 isn't?:lol: and reach is far different from other halo games.

kz3 is only the same game released for the 3rd time :)

although imo this game got potential, I wanna see how it turns out.

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#149 xYamatox
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[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

As far as I'm concerned, Crysis is better than both KZ and Halo while also looking a full generation ahead.

That being said KZ3 does look good while Halo: Reach looks like the same game released for the 5'th time.

TLDR: Crysis is FPS King and GFX KING as well.

supdotcom

and KZ3 isn't?:lol: and reach is far different from other halo games.

kz3 is only the same game released for the 3rd time :)

although imo this game got potential, I wanna see how it turns out.

...Have you even touched a Killzone game before....? Serious question, too.

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It seems as though not enough people got a look at the leaked Single Player footage (that was nothing less than amazing), and the fact that it practically confirmed co-op campaign. Kz3 IS getting a 9 or highier (wouldn't be suprised one bit if it hit 9.5), I can almost guarantee it.

xYamatox

this is what makes games flop.

and anyway, remember when all the footage for reach came out? everyone had the same reaction. except that it was epic as the trailers said.