It will be impossible for halo:reach to be at the absolute top graphically.

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#1 MC3887
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If it is like other halo games it will have 4 player co-op and very large maps with a ton of enemies. I don't see how it will top the titles coming next year or some from this year.
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#2 AAllxxjjnn
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Yeh, and any other console game for that matter.
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Agreed. It looks fantastic, but the talk of "teh grafix king" is just wrong.
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#4 Texas2089
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But since when has Halo EVER been at the top graphically?
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Graphics aren't just limited to eye candy on the surface.Scope and design will be taken into account as well as other factors.

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But since when has Halo EVER been at the top graphically?Texas2089

Halo 1 and 2 both were top, for consoles graphically; at least when they both came out anyway.

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#7 MC3887
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Halo 1 and 2 were graphical beast of their time. So, it was before. Like I said before, it has so many disadvantages against most console graphics kings it is ridiculous.
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#8 PAL360
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Who knows....Gears2 is one of the best looking console games and has split screen coop and huge number of enemies at the same time.

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#9 MC3887
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Graphics aren't just limited to eye candy on the surface.Scope and design will be taken into account as well as other factors.

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No, it is. Here at least.
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#10 MC3887
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Who knows....Gears2 is one of the best looking console games and has split screen coop and huge number of enemies at the same time.

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Difference is much less going on than the average halo match, much slower, and only 2 player co-op.
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#11 Texas2089
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[QUOTE="Texas2089"]But since when has Halo EVER been at the top graphically?siddhu33

Halo 1 and 2 both were top, for consoles graphically; at least when they both came out anyway.

I would agree with you, but "top for consoles" doesn't mean anything on this board.
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Of course it will be impossible, unless of course you think Reach will surpass Crysis in visuals. >_>
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#13 Floppy_Jim
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You're correct; assuming they keep split screen and large-scale envorinments- as Halo always does- it's not gonna be among the top tier graphically. Personally I'm far more interested in the gameplay itself than how shiny it looks.
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Of course it will be impossible, unless of course you think Reach will surpass Crysis in visuals. >_>Doolz2024
You know what I ment.
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#15 MC3887
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[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

[QUOTE="Texas2089"]But since when has Halo EVER been at the top graphically?Texas2089

Halo 1 and 2 both were top, for consoles graphically; at least when they both came out anyway.

I would agree with you, but "top for consoles" doesn't mean anything on this board.

Halo 1 was top for everything.
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Who knows....Gears2 is one of the best looking console games and has split screen coop and huge number of enemies at the same time.

MC3887

Difference is much less going on than the average halo match, much slower, and only 2 player co-op.

Yep, thats true and Halo also has the vehicles. Anyway, im hyping Reach to end up looking better thn Gears2.

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Yeh, and any other console game for that matter.AAllxxjjnn

Nope Heavy Rain, Alan Wake, Gran Turismo 5, etc. I doubt even my HD5850 will run Crysis 2 on medium smoothly.

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#18 MC3887
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[QUOTE="MC3887"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Who knows....Gears2 is one of the best looking console games and has split screen coop and huge number of enemies at the same time.

PAL360

Difference is much less going on than the average halo match, much slower, and only 2 player co-op.

Yep, thats true and Halo also has the vehicles. Anyway, im hyping Reach to end up looking better thn Gears2.

If it does(which I think is possible), it will make epic look like a joke lol.
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#19 MC3887
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Yeh, and any other console game for that matter.3sFan

Nope Heavy Rain, Alan Wake, Gran Turismo 5, etc. I doubt even my HD5850 will run Crysis 2 on medium smoothly.

what is "smooth" lol 90fps?
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[QUOTE="3sFan"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Yeh, and any other console game for that matter.MC3887

Nope Heavy Rain, Alan Wake, Gran Turismo 5, etc. I doubt even my HD5850 will run Crysis 2 on medium smoothly.

what is "smooth" lol 90fps?

30+ and never dipping.

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#22 MC3887
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[QUOTE="MC3887"][QUOTE="3sFan"]

Nope Heavy Rain, Alan Wake, Gran Turismo 5, etc. I doubt even my HD5850 will run Crysis 2 on medium smoothly.

3sFan

what is "smooth" lol 90fps?

30+ and never dipping.

The HD 4XXX series did a very good job of running crysis.
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[QUOTE="3sFan"]

[QUOTE="MC3887"] what is "smooth" lol 90fps?MC3887

30+ and never dipping.

The HD 4XXX series did a very good job of running crysis.

Barely on high. And thats only on high settings. Very High would dip into the 20s or teens.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-4890-review-test/12

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#24 MC3887
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[QUOTE="MC3887"][QUOTE="3sFan"]

30+ and never dipping.

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The HD 4XXX series did a very good job of running crysis.

Barely on high. And thats only on high settings. Very High would dip into the 20s or teens.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-4890-review-test/12

Custom configs that run better and look the same? I meant the x2 series.
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[QUOTE="Texas2089"]But since when has Halo EVER been at the top graphically?siddhu33

Halo 1 and 2 both were top, for consoles graphically; at least when they both came out anyway.

No they weren't.
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#26 MC3887
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[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

[QUOTE="Texas2089"]But since when has Halo EVER been at the top graphically?MGS4_GOAT

Halo 1 and 2 both were top, for consoles graphically; at least when they both came out anyway.

No they weren't.

Halo 1 was graphics king PERIOD. Halo 2 was up there, bested by Doom, riddick, and half-life 2.
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#27 Cali3350
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Halo wont ever be at the top graphically due to its art style. Huge ramps and simple architecture dont lend to "wow" moments.

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Xbox cannot handle it with its current 360 hardware. Even PS3 cannot beat a high-end baby-grade DX11 PC graphically, what hope is there for the Xbox-exclusive Halo?
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#29 MC3887
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Xbox cannot handle it with its current 360 hardware. Even PS3 cannot beat a high-end baby-grade DX11 PC graphically, what hope is there for the Xbox-exclusive Halo?GhoX
PS3 really has nothing over the 360. I also meant consoles...
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[QUOTE="3sFan"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Yeh, and any other console game for that matter.MC3887

Nope Heavy Rain, Alan Wake, Gran Turismo 5, etc. I doubt even my HD5850 will run Crysis 2 on medium smoothly.

what is "smooth" lol 90fps?

wtf? 90fps? anything higher than 60 is unnoticable to the human eye.

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[QUOTE="GhoX"]Xbox cannot handle it with its current 360 hardware. Even PS3 cannot beat a high-end baby-grade DX11 PC graphically, what hope is there for the Xbox-exclusive Halo?MC3887
PS3 really has nothing over the 360. I also meant consoles...

Umm, Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 are currently the best looking games that consoles have to offer atm.

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#32 MC3887
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[QUOTE="MC3887"][QUOTE="3sFan"]

Nope Heavy Rain, Alan Wake, Gran Turismo 5, etc. I doubt even my HD5850 will run Crysis 2 on medium smoothly.

WiiMan21

what is "smooth" lol 90fps?

wtf? 90fps? anything higher than 60 is unnoticable to the human eye.

sarcasm... Also, I don't know if that is true.
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#33 MC3887
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[QUOTE="MC3887"][QUOTE="GhoX"]Xbox cannot handle it with its current 360 hardware. Even PS3 cannot beat a high-end baby-grade DX11 PC graphically, what hope is there for the Xbox-exclusive Halo?WiiMan21

PS3 really has nothing over the 360. I also meant consoles...

Umm, Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 are currently the best looking games that consoles have to offer atm.

Best looking, but most technically impressive, no. For UC2 atleast. KZ2 and GTA4 I would say are the most technically impressive so far.
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#34 WiiMan21
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[QUOTE="WiiMan21"]

[QUOTE="MC3887"] PS3 really has nothing over the 360. I also meant consoles...MC3887

Umm, Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 are currently the best looking games that consoles have to offer atm.

Best looking, but most technically impressive, no. For UC2 atleast. KZ2 and GTA4 I would say are the most technically impressive so far.

Your comparing GTA4 to graphic power houses like KZ2 and U2?

I will cut you some slack considering your new to GS. Stuff like that will get you eaten alive in SW.

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#35 MC3887
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[QUOTE="MC3887"][QUOTE="WiiMan21"]

Umm, Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 are currently the best looking games that consoles have to offer atm.

WiiMan21

Best looking, but most technically impressive, no. For UC2 atleast. KZ2 and GTA4 I would say are the most technically impressive so far.

Your comparing GTA4 to graphic power houses like KZ2 and U2?

I will cut you some slack considering your new to GS. Stuff like that will get you eaten alive in SW.

Look, GTA4 is huge with a fair bit of detail, euphoria physics engine, a ton on screen vs. corridors. Also, I made a thread saying RE5 vs. UC2 technical graphics. Look it up I even stated what I said to you.
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#36 WiiMan21
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[QUOTE="WiiMan21"]

[QUOTE="MC3887"] Best looking, but most technically impressive, no. For UC2 atleast. KZ2 and GTA4 I would say are the most technically impressive so far.MC3887

Your comparing GTA4 to graphic power houses like KZ2 and U2?

I will cut you some slack considering your new to GS. Stuff like that will get you eaten alive in SW.

Look, GTA4 is huge with a fair bit of detail, euphoria physics engine, a ton on screen vs. corridors.

yes but compared to some of the newer games on the PS3, it doesn't compare.

InFamous even looks better.

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#37 MC3887
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[QUOTE="MC3887"][QUOTE="WiiMan21"]

Your comparing GTA4 to graphic power houses like KZ2 and U2?

I will cut you some slack considering your new to GS. Stuff like that will get you eaten alive in SW.

WiiMan21

Look, GTA4 is huge with a fair bit of detail, euphoria physics engine, a ton on screen vs. corridors.

yes but compared to some of the newer games on the PS3, it doesn't compare.

InFamous even looks better.

Infamous vs. GTA? I think GTA looks better, but still isn't infamous draw distance horrible? Doesn't use the very stressful Euphoria engine, also GTA seems even bigger with just more on screen on average. AC2 is also a very nice visually, and beats infamous graphically, IMO.
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lets hope they don't try to make it a graphics king, Halo is about the speed of play, if they focus too heavily on the graphics they might have to slow the game down and there may even be the dreaded framerate drops, no thanks, as long as it looks reasonable but plays a swell as other halo games i will be more than happy
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#39 MC3887
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lets hope they don't try to make it a graphics king, Halo is about the speed of play, if they focus too heavily on the graphics they might have to slow the game down and there may even be the dreaded framerate drops, no thanks, as long as it looks reasonable but plays a swell as other halo games i will be more than happydelta3074
Agreed I am fairly good at Halo 3 and play MLG alot. Framerate drops would kill me.
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[QUOTE="Texas2089"]But since when has Halo EVER been at the top graphically?siddhu33

Halo 1 and 2 both were top, for consoles graphically; at least when they both came out anyway.

That's because the Xbox was clearly more powerful than the PS2.

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[QUOTE="WiiMan21"]

[QUOTE="MC3887"] Look, GTA4 is huge with a fair bit of detail, euphoria physics engine, a ton on screen vs. corridors.MC3887

yes but compared to some of the newer games on the PS3, it doesn't compare.

InFamous even looks better.

Infamous vs. GTA? I think GTA looks better, but still isn't infamous draw distance horrible? Doesn't use the very stressful Euphoria engine, also GTA seems even bigger with just more on screen on average. AC2 is also a very nice visually, and beats infamous graphically, IMO.

Actually the draw distance is pretty good compared to most open world games.

I will agree with you on AC2 looking better than InFamous, but it came after and they knew what they had to create to beat the competition.

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#42 MC3887
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[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

[QUOTE="Texas2089"]But since when has Halo EVER been at the top graphically?ThePRAssassin

Halo 1 and 2 both were top, for consoles graphically; at least when they both came out anyway.

That's because the Xbox was clearly more powerful than the PS2.

IT wasn't clearly more powerful than the gamecube though and H2 was up there with other xbox titles.
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Yeh, and any other console game for that matter.3sFan

Nope Heavy Rain, Alan Wake, Gran Turismo 5, etc. I doubt even my HD5850 will run Crysis 2 on medium smoothly.

Those games don't even beat the original Crysis. Stop fooling yourself.
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#44 VendettaRed07
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As long as halo is bright and colourful then I dont really care

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#45 alextherussian
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Honestly as long as I have fun with the game Im all good. PS2's best titles were not lookers even for their time and yet could provide gaming experiences equal to none, I could care less for if x titles looks better or worse then y, which I game I have more fun with though I do care about.
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halo sucks

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[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

[QUOTE="Texas2089"]But since when has Halo EVER been at the top graphically?Texas2089

Halo 1 and 2 both were top, for consoles graphically; at least when they both came out anyway.

I would agree with you, but "top for consoles" doesn't mean anything on this board.

Um... I don't ever recall a game completely being unanimously described as being the graphics king on a console, meaning it beats PC games. So, yes, Halo 1 and 2 were both graphics kings in the System Wars sense. Halo 1 was even very good looking when compared to PC titles.
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[QUOTE="MGS4_GOAT"][QUOTE="siddhu33"]

Halo 1 and 2 both were top, for consoles graphically; at least when they both came out anyway.

MC3887

No they weren't.

Halo 1 was graphics king PERIOD. Halo 2 was up there, bested by Doom, riddick, and half-life 2.

dude!!! Metroid Prime looked better than Halo when it was released on the gamecube last gen. Halo was a contender in visuals, but (IMO) Metroid Prime took the cake

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#49 Leejjohno
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large maps? not especially big to say the graphics of recent Halo games have been subpar. I want to see some in game footage with physics running before committing to anything though.

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But since when has Halo EVER been at the top graphically?Texas2089

the first halo were considered to be revolutionary as far as graphics go when they were first released.