Investors want MS CEO to dump Xbox Brand

Lol, that's just funny

Not sure if serious

Liar you did use this account 2 months ago...lol

Before any one knew it was yours..

From your own article about the likelyhood of this happening.

"But doing so would mean repudiating much of the legacy of his predecessors, Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer, who have long believed that Microsoft needs to win over consumers, not just corporate IT managers. As a 22-year Microsoft insider, Nadella owes much of his career to Gates and Ballmer."

Yeah considering Nadella just asked Gates to play a more active role in the company this is highly unlikely.

As Stormy said Sony will go BK before this happens. But hey, Sony Fan can dream right?

FOR WHAT? I might have used it once, when I was flipping back and forth to show someone my old account, but that was an oversight. That account has been inactive for years.

The current MS ceo supports/likes the xbox brand so he won't get rid of it right now.

Hmm, is it a coincidence that this news is being reported again right after lemmings have been celebrating and circle jerking over Sony's financial problems? Now its the Cows turn to do the same thing. Both Lems and Cows are probably hoping for their main competitors demise in the gaming division which is sad.

First of all the winner of this gen was the Wii and was $250,if the xbox 360 wasn't there even more people would have flock to the Wii,and the price disparity between the wii and PS3 was even bigger.

The PS3 would have never sold like the PS2 at that price ever,in fact sony sold at $300 like close to 30 million PS2,the rest $199 or less.

Second the PS4 was going to be what it is no matter what,it was a disaster for sony profits wise,that $600 unit machine cost $800+ to make,sony selling 40 million PS4 at $600 with the same loss would have landed sony in hell even more.

By the way sony had 2 consoles release for $299 because the xbox was even on the market,the PS3 was expensive because it had expensive hardware,the xbox 360 didn't even had HDMI or wifi for Christ sake.

There was an option Nintendo was there and they won,without the xbox 360 Nintendo would have won who knows if by more than PS2 level.

investors wanted bill gates to step down from chairman last year and now hes no longer chairmen. i think its more then just opinion.

http://nypost.com/2013/10/02/top-microsoft-investors-want-to-boot-bill-gates/

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/reviews-are-wrong-knack-is-great-very-underated-li-30938862/

To claim Knack sucked...hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

No its not coincidence. Every time Sony has bad press this 'activist investor' story circulates but never changes. The funny thing is that Sony financial news is always fresh and never the same.

Last year it was SOE being sold off.

Sony's stock downgraded to junk.

PC division being sold off.

Then a billion dollar loss expected for fiscal 2013.

MSofts bad news

'Activist investor wants to trash Xbox' oh noes activist crybaby throws tantrum again, and again, and again............

Big difference.

And console gaming was just fine when Nintendo only had Sega to compete against, but aren't you glad Sony released their own console?

Times change. The PS3 was awful in its first few years, and would have been even more awful if the Xbox 360 wasn't there setting the precedent for how online play should work, how features should work, and for how a console should be designed (the pre-launch PS3 had two cell processors, and no gpu).

The PS4 is what we have now as a result of what Microsoft did with the 360, and how Sony responded to it.

Imagine how awful the PS4 would be if Sony never had any reason to change their hardware design philosophy, or any reason to improve PSN. That thought makes me barf.

I am actually surprised the xbox brand is still alive it has yet to make any money.

Now only if you knew that the Xbox has been in the black for almost half the decade. You might want to educate yourself on what 'consumer products' encompasses.

Why does this topic come up so often? I don't mean on the forum, but it seems to get reported by news outlets every month..

I never said it was going to happen..... Bah. I'm just stating something I read. I've never said the xbox brand was going to be sold, I never said it was sold, I never said anything except in the event if it ever did sell who would it go to.

Lots of money allows you to take chances, something Sony and Nintendo know nothing about.

This is patently false but keep saying it, it makes you look seriously misinformed and uneducated in this matter.

char is totally correct.

I also love the mentioning of Steam Machines. Who the hell is going to buy one of those???? It won't be joe consumer and it sure as hell won't be die hard PC fans. No one can tell me who these dumb machines will be purchased by. Didn't Valve already back track on their poorly engineered controller? Valve knows nothing about hardware and their most successful invention was a software delivery service.

lol what?

i'm sure we all don't not remember when nintendo didn't not take a chance on the not wii gaming console.

The original Xbox sold 25 million and lost billions, the 360 will sell 90 million when it is all said and done. The original Surface had a billion dollar write down, and Surface 2 is selling like hot cakes. What didn't you understand about my comment?????

Anything is possible but I think this going to hinge on two things.

1. How well the X1 does this next year or two.

2. When will Sony take another turn for the worse essentially eliminating itself from competing with MS.

I'm sure these companies know a thing or two about taking chances.

I.E. Nintendo and their gloriously beautiful **** up the Wii-U

And Sony Taking a very big swing and a miss with the chance of the cell processor that cost them ground, hundreds of millions and so on and a lot more.

I'm sure these companies know better than You and I what taking a financial risk means.

Sweet, then they went the safe route again with the WiiU, plus the Wii was safe in terms of cost to Nintendo. Nintendo knew they couldn't compete on the same level as Sony and MSoft when it came to console power (Nintendo still doesn't have an online multiplayer infrastructure or robust 3rd party lineup) they don't innovate in the slightest. Also don't bring up the fact that their handheld has been stuck in the stoneage since its inception. But hey don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

The world actually already ended (or near enough before all the lights go out), the known universe is a simulation made out of a 3D hologram being projected off a 2D surface. Turns out Star Ocean 3 was right all along.

The DS maybe. But you cannot deny they've made strides the past 15 years.

And both are in the toilet financially because their lack of vision. Again like I said MSoft has the money to actually pull off what the other two can't.

@Couth_: It won't stop showing up until MIcrosoft has actually made a profit on the Xbox brand, which after R&D and launching the first Xbox and the red ring disaster of the 360, I believe they're still over a billion dollars under.

Is this a joke?

I agree that the bolded statement is the vision for the future. However, the vision will not happen in the near future. Content owners and telecom companies have too much invested in their current assets. In the USA, live sports and premium contents (HBO, ShowTime, some cable TV channels) generally cannot be streamed unless you also have subscription to cable. And advertising revenues on TV keep climbing (although slowly) despite declining TV viewership. A live TV ad spot on a popular program/event is worth much more than say a banner on espn.com. TV will not die in the near future. To me, the short-term approach is what the Xbox One is trying to do. Marry the cable box with online contents, games and mobile computing devices (Smartglass - although it sucks now, the potential is there). The key is how to keep people on your system and not switch to other boxes for contents not available on your device. Microsoft has shown its innovation in this area. I wouldn't be surprise if the Amazon, Google and Apple boxes follow the same HDMI-in approach when they release their respective boxes.

Yes because Microsoft has had profound vision..... Getting into the games market was Just so much of MS vision that the other companies stole that idea before it was even conceived that MS would go into console gaming. I like podcasting with you more. You sound so mean when you type!

The Wii was somewhat daring only because in the mind of the hardcore gamer it was never going to be purchased. It catered to ultra casual audience who really didn't like videogaming but liked ease of use. Kinect does the same thing in bringing in that same audience but thankfully MSoft didn't abandon the controller all together. The Wii was successful in the short term, but Nintendo has nowhere to go from it. It is like the 3DS, they were going for a quick cash in on 3D which ultimately led them back to 2D.

thing is - i didn't like the wii. i thought it was stupid.

but it is true that nintendo took a chance by making a game console with a control scheme far removed from tradition. kuu2 said 'Lots of money allows you to take chances, something Sony and Nintendo know nothing about.'

and regarding nintendo i have to disagree, i didn't like what they did but they did take a chance.

although having thought about it, i'm not so sure about sony. their best innovation is probably x square circle triangle.

And nowhere are games even mentioned. I can do all that with a $100 Rocku box.

Steam Machine will be one of the biggest boondoggles we will see since the 3DO. No one is going to care about these boxes.

Lol, hedging your bets so that you can ensure that the entire company doesn't fail because of one flopped product isn't 'not being daring/not taking risks,' it's smart financial planning and long term thinking.

Nintendo, like Sony, has taken some incredible risks with its products. The Wii was a risk. The DS was a risk. The entire company was bet on those two products. The 3DS was a safer product, the Wii U was absolutely a risk. Hence the failing of the Wii U having such a negative impact in their bottom line- if it hadn't been a risky product, its failure wouldn't have affected them as badly as it did.

Sony? The PS3 was a risk through and through. It was pushing so many new technologies at the same time (HDMI, Blu Ray, Wifi, The Cell). The PS4 is comparatively a safer product, as is the PS Vita, but again, Sony and Nintendo have taken more risks than Microsoft has. What was Microsoft's biggest risk? Kinect, which was them just deciding to ride the Wii wave? Xbox Live? I'll give them that, twelve years ago. That's it. That's the extent of their risks in the gaming space.

Everything else? Those risks come from Sony and Nintendo. You know, the companies that are less financially stable.

From the beginning this has been more than games for MSoft. It is a battle for the living room, and TV is a part of that no matter what shape that will take in the future. It is the reason that MSoft has games yes, but has partnered with the NFL, has its own video/music store, and integrated Skype interaction. You are correct their vision was never entirely games. In essence I think it started with the collaboration on the Dreamcast just like Sony with the Nintendo CD attachment.

Dump and spin off are two entirely different things.

But yes, xbox is successful enough to stand on its own feet and it should spin off from Microsoft and become its own entity of which Microsoft will own a 100% share.

That would be the smartest thing to do.

Xbox Live was probably the single biggest contribution to gaming in the last two decades. There are so many things that have spawned from it for all the other consoles. Kinect is also a groundbreaker as well. It has changed how my home interacts with media in the living room. My two year old says Xbox on for craps sake.

I already said the Wii was somewhat risky, and I for sure give Sony props for the Vita being more innovative than any Nintendo hand held of recent memory. Blu Ray is not a Sony invention, HDMI no, and I belive the Cell was also a collabrative effort. Which of those were successful though????? The PS3 was a mismash of a lot of technology yes but was it truly something that brought new people into gaming???

The Wii did, Xbox Live and Kinect did, Sony??????

Games are played in the living room though and MSoft was the first console to really consolidate everything. Steam Boxes are going to be a very niche product and I don't think even Valve knows who they are targeted at. If you asked someone on the street what a steambox was you might get slapped in the face.....XD

Alas though we have taken this way off topic but I do love the discussion.

If they do there will be a mass Lemming suicide.

OK. Again, if I did, then I meant to be logged into this account. Go ahead, go through that "dabear" posting history. I have only logged into it recently to say "Yeah, I have been on GS since 2002".

I do not use that login anymore.

It will be interesting to see in the near future. The problem from detaching from Cable or Satallite is really are not detaching. The companies that own ISPs are the same companies that pump in Cable and Satallite. TV will exist it will just be in a different form. MSoft has already mastered how to control Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, Hulu, and other services with Kinect I would also bet money that whatever interation that comes along next they are already working on how to master it. People forget how bare bones the 36o was when it first launched and where it is now, I have full confidence in MSoft continuing to improve on what they started with The One.

An "alt" account would imply that I use two accounts. I do not - I use this one. The only time I really use my "dabear" account is when I am showing people that I have been on GS since 2002.