If you haven't played a FPS on a proper PC before

Please name me 2 pc fps games that have come out in the last 3 years that are actually good. The videos you see of console fps game play are made by bad players. Controllers are more competitive and take far more skill. I used to play quake live with a 360 controller and was amazed at how easy it wasRTCWGR1SCRB6H2

Are you high ? :lol:

[QUOTE="RTCWGR1SCRB6H2"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

This is what happens. Before you do it you think "Can't be THAT much different can it?" then you play PC and go back to a console controller and FPS games are unbearably clumsy to control. You start to notice it in gameplay videos too and see people over aiming all the time without auto aim.

PC is where it's at for FPS games, a mouse is the greatest peripheral for them and anyone who says sticks are good haven't played on PC

Jankarcop

Too obvious.

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="RTCWGR1SCRB6H2"] Controllers are more competitive and take far more skill. I used to play quake live with a 360 controller and was amazed at how easy it wasRTCWGR1SCRB6H2

Too obvious.

[QUOTE="RTCWGR1SCRB6H2"]

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

Too obvious.

kraken2109

I prefer gaming on my sofa, thank you very much.

Don't give me any crap about those debunked "you can hook your PC up to your TV" arguments, either.

What is it with PC gamers? Are you all that insecure about your platform of choice that you endlessly try to make console gamers switch?

I prefer gaming on my sofa, thank you very much.

Don't give me any crap about those debunked "you can hook your PC up to your TV" arguments, either.

What is it with PC gamers? Are you all that insecure about your platform of choice that you endlessly try to make console gamers switch?

StormyJoe

I prefer gaming on my sofa, thank you very much.

Don't give me any crap about those debunked "you can hook your PC up to your TV" arguments, either.

What is it with PC gamers? Are you all that insecure about your platform of choice that you endlessly try to make console gamers switch?

StormyJoe

Nobody gives two **** about the way you play. We are justs stating that KM is so much better for shooters.

I agree, I dont mind some third person shooters with controller, but FPS with controller=no.

I prefer gaming on my sofa, thank you very much.

Don't give me any crap about those debunked "you can hook your PC up to your TV" arguments, either.

What is it with PC gamers? Are you all that insecure about your platform of choice that you endlessly try to make console gamers switch?

StormyJoe

How are the arguments debunked? And you're on the wrong forum if you just want to discuss gaming. It's called SYSTEM WARS for a reason.

l2internet

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

I prefer gaming on my sofa, thank you very much.

Don't give me any crap about those debunked "you can hook your PC up to your TV" arguments, either.

What is it with PC gamers? Are you all that insecure about your platform of choice that you endlessly try to make console gamers switch?

beganoo

Nobody gives two **** about the way you play. We are justs stating that KM is so much better for shooters.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

I prefer gaming on my sofa, thank you very much.

Don't give me any crap about those debunked "you can hook your PC up to your TV" arguments, either.

What is it with PC gamers? Are you all that insecure about your platform of choice that you endlessly try to make console gamers switch?

RTCWGR1SCRB6H2

Nobody gives two **** about the way you play. We are justs stating that KM is so much better for shooters.

yeah man that sofa surely made the games run, look, control, and play better.

KB and M are more precise and accurate then a controller plain and simple. The proof is using controllers for PC games. Very few people do it and the ones who do are often frustrated buy how much better mouse players are. Take the best controller and best KB and M players of any given online FPS, the keyboard guys would destroy

[QUOTE="RTCWGR1SCRB6H2"][QUOTE="beganoo"]

Nobody gives two **** about the way you play. We are justs stating that KM is so much better for shooters.

Jankarcop

yeah man that sofa surely made the games run, look, control, and play better.

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="RTCWGR1SCRB6H2"] You missed outlocopatho

yeah man that sofa surely made the games run, look, control, and play better.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

yeah man that sofa surely made the games run, look, control, and play better.

clyde46

[QUOTE="RTCWGR1SCRB6H2"][QUOTE="beganoo"]

Nobody gives two **** about the way you play. We are justs stating that KM is so much better for shooters.

Jankarcop

yeah man that sofa surely made the games run, look, control, and play better.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="locopatho"] It's all about fun. Some people have more fun with the accuracy of a mouse/keyboard at a desk. Some people have more fun with the comfort of a controller on a couch. locopatho

RTCWGR1SCRB6H2, what a very bad troll.

Gamers deserve better than crappy WASD controls. Where are the analog sticks to pair with mice? I hope Valve address this.

Gamers deserve better than crappy WASD controls. Where are the analog sticks to pair with mice? I hope Valve address this.

Mr_BillGates

This?

RTCWGR1SCRB6H2, what a very bad troll.

seanmcloughlin

RTCWGR1SCRB6H2, what a very bad troll.

seanmcloughlin

Did you go to the trouble of actually typing out that clusterfvck of a user name or did you copy/paste.

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Gamers deserve better than crappy WASD controls. Where are the analog sticks to pair with mice? I hope Valve address this.

seanmcloughlin

This?

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

RTCWGR1SCRB6H2, what a very bad troll.

Obviously_Right

Did you go to the trouble of actually typing out that clusterfvck of a user name or did you copy/paste.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] I can play using a KB/M on a sofa...clyde46

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="locopatho"] I tried that. It's horribly impractical.locopatho

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

RTCWGR1SCRB6H2, what a very bad troll.

RTCWGR1SCRB6H2

Did you go to the trouble of actually typing out that clusterfvck of a user name or did you copy/paste.

Wrong, your IQ is not that high, silly.

[QUOTE="RTCWGR1SCRB6H2"][QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

Did you go to the trouble of actually typing out that clusterfvck of a user name or did you copy/paste.

Obviously_Right

Wrong, your IQ is not that high, silly.

I came from a history of having both console and PC. After playing both consistently, I found the PC to be the best choice

KB and M are more precise and accurate then a controller plain and simple. The proof is using controllers for PC games. Very few people do it and the ones who do are often frustrated buy how much better mouse players are. Take the best controller and best KB and M players of any given online FPS, the keyboard guys would destroy

AdamPA1006

More proof would be Shadowrun and its 360 playerbase vanishing from one day to the next, because they didn't stand a chance against people playing with KBM (how did this not come up during playtesting btw? :P)

And how there hasn't been a crossplatform competitive FPS ever since. Even CS:GO was supposed to give cross platform between PS3 and PC remember ?

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

KB and M are more precise and accurate then a controller plain and simple. The proof is using controllers for PC games. Very few people do it and the ones who do are often frustrated buy how much better mouse players are. Take the best controller and best KB and M players of any given online FPS, the keyboard guys would destroy

R4gn4r0k

More proof would be Shadowrun and its 360 playerbase vanishing from one day to the next, because they didn't stand a chance against people playing with KBM (how did this not come up during playtesting btw? :P)

And how there hasn't been a crossplatform competitive FPS ever since. Even CS:GO was supposed to give cross platform between PS3 and PC remember ?

[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

KB and M are more precise and accurate then a controller plain and simple. The proof is using controllers for PC games. Very few people do it and the ones who do are often frustrated buy how much better mouse players are. Take the best controller and best KB and M players of any given online FPS, the keyboard guys would destroy

lowe0

More proof would be Shadowrun and its 360 playerbase vanishing from one day to the next, because they didn't stand a chance against people playing with KBM (how did this not come up during playtesting btw? :P)

And how there hasn't been a crossplatform competitive FPS ever since. Even CS:GO was supposed to give cross platform between PS3 and PC remember ?

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

More proof would be Shadowrun and its 360 playerbase vanishing from one day to the next, because they didn't stand a chance against people playing with KBM (how did this not come up during playtesting btw? :P)

And how there hasn't been a crossplatform competitive FPS ever since. Even CS:GO was supposed to give cross platform between PS3 and PC remember ?

clyde46

I prefer KB and mouse, though a controller is perfect fine for games that are obviously better played with it. However, I haven't come across a game yet that I feel requires a controller absolutely. I manage even with racing games just fine.

As for the sofa sitting/non desk PC gamers like myself I have a nice Ikea chair that I pull up to a good distance to my HDTV, and I use a stool as my mousepad with my keyboard in my lap. I've been doing it for over three years. It's pretty awesome, though I still love sitting at a desk for FPSs.

'Dat HDMI standard sure is convenient.

That didn't get axed for competitive reasons, though; it was because they couldn't keep the two in sync without delaying patches on the PC side.lowe0

I can't speculate as to their motives, other than what's been stated publicly.

lowe0

You are a strange man lowe. You say you hate people changing the subject when discussing something. But you do the exact same.

I'm talking about why cross platform doesn't work and hasn't worked in the past and you bring up an official announcement by the devs about why they axed the game? Uhm thanks I guess but what does that have to do with the topic at hand ?

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

KB and M are more precise and accurate then a controller plain and simple. The proof is using controllers for PC games. Very few people do it and the ones who do are often frustrated buy how much better mouse players are. Take the best controller and best KB and M players of any given online FPS, the keyboard guys would destroy

R4gn4r0k

More proof would be Shadowrun and its 360 playerbase vanishing from one day to the next, because they didn't stand a chance against people playing with KBM (how did this not come up during playtesting btw? :P)

And how there hasn't been a crossplatform competitive FPS ever since. Even CS:GO was supposed to give cross platform between PS3 and PC remember ?

You do realise that a lot of the pc shadowrun community plays using a 360 controller right? (again I'm not trying to say the controller is better but using shadowrun as an example is dumb)RTCWGR1SCRB6H2

There is still a PC shadowrun community ?:o

that is very interesting... seeing as how the servers have closed down !

And you call me dumb, lol :lol:

[QUOTE="RTCWGR1SCRB6H2"]You do realise that a lot of the pc shadowrun community plays using a 360 controller right? (again I'm not trying to say the controller is better but using shadowrun as an example is dumb)R4gn4r0k

There is still a PC shadowrun community ?:o

that is very interesting... seeing as how the servers have closed down !

And you call me dumb, lol :lol:

[QUOTE="lowe0"]That didn't get axed for competitive reasons, though; it was because they couldn't keep the two in sync without delaying patches on the PC side.R4gn4r0k

I can't speculate as to their motives, other than what's been stated publicly.

lowe0

You are a strange man lowe. You say you hate people changing the subject when discussing something. But you do the exact same.

I'm talking about why cross platform doesn't work and hasn't worked in the past and you bring up an official announcement by the devs about why they axed the game? Uhm thanks I guess but what does that have to do with the topic at hand ?

I have always played fighting games on a D-pad while others argue that with a stick is much better. Bought a pretty expensive stick and I still prefer the d-pad better.

The same arguments are going on with PC and mouse. Is not that is better is just that you have been playing FPS games with that set-up for so much time that when you play with dual analog is just doesn't feels right. Nobody will ever win this argument because is all preference.

Played FPS games on PC, honestly still can't see much of a difference other than better graphics. I still prefer a controller. mems_1224

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

KB and M are more precise and accurate then a controller plain and simple. The proof is using controllers for PC games. Very few people do it and the ones who do are often frustrated buy how much better mouse players are. Take the best controller and best KB and M players of any given online FPS, the keyboard guys would destroy

R4gn4r0k

More proof would be Shadowrun and its 360 playerbase vanishing from one day to the next, because they didn't stand a chance against people playing with KBM (how did this not come up during playtesting btw? :P)

And how there hasn't been a crossplatform competitive FPS ever since. Even CS:GO was supposed to give cross platform between PS3 and PC remember ?

Technically, no. What I push back against is the idea that I'm the one who changes the topic from statements made in the thread to discussing myself and my posting habits. But, to avoid that, I'll simply point out that you did specifically bring up CS:GO.lowe0

I was totally confused. :P

I didn't know you were talking about CS:GO. Yeah valve did give that reason, but it wouldn't have worked even if they fixed that problem.

It's a shame but cross platform simply does not work

You know nothing.RTCWGR1SCRB6H2

I know you are full of sh1t when you say you play Quake Live with a controller

[QUOTE="RTCWGR1SCRB6H2"]You know nothing.R4gn4r0k

I know you are full of sh1t when you say you play Quake Live with a controller

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]Played FPS games on PC, honestly still can't see much of a difference other than better graphics. I still prefer a controller. Ucasuals

kb/m destroys controller so bad for FPS that you have to make an alt troll accoutn to say otherwise, like this R**** guy.