I wish Halo Reach and GT 5 would release on the same day to confirm sales King

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#1 crusadernm
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this holiday season. Would be an interesting battle. What do you think?

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#2 Raymundo_Manuel
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Sales king is Wii Play


A competition between Halo Reach and GT5 wouldn't really show anything especially given that they're different genres.

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#3 crusadernm
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Sales king is Wii Play


A competition between Halo Reach and GT5 would prove nothing especially given that they're different genres.

Raymundo_Manuel

I said this holiday season. It would determine which game is more popular.

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you can't compare Halo sells a lot of copies at firs day its like a blockbuster but GT is a slow burner its sells a moderate amount of games at first day but it keeps selling for a very long time anyway over all probably Halo reach will sell more than GT5.

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#5 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Wouldn't be fair to judge anyways since they're on different platforms with different install base numbers.
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#6 crusadernm
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you can't compare Halo sells a lot of copies at firs day its like a blockbuster but GT is a slow burner its sells a moderate amount of games at first day but it keeps selling for a very long time anyway over all probably Halo reach will sell more than GT5.

Kashiwaba

You mean when the price of the game goes down over time. Duh. Thats a cop out excuse.

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#7 crusadernm
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Wouldn't be fair to judge anyways since they're on different platforms with different install base numbers.Stevo_the_gamer

They are pretty even today actually. less than 3 million apart.

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#8 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

Sales king is Wii Play


A competition between Halo Reach and GT5 would prove nothing especially given that they're different genres.

crusadernm

I said this holiday season. It would determine which game is more popular.

Wouldn't lifetime sales dictate that? If so, who cares if they release on the same day.

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#9 HAZE-Unit
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it doesn't need science fiction to know who is king on sales.

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#10 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Wouldn't be fair to judge anyways since they're on different platforms with different install base numbers.crusadernm

They are pretty even today actually. less than 3 million apart.

It's more than 3 million apart.
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#11 FIipMode
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Oh god sales king :roll:
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#12 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

you can't compare Halo sells a lot of copies at firs day its like a blockbuster but GT is a slow burner its sells a moderate amount of games at first day but it keeps selling for a very long time anyway over all probably Halo reach will sell more than GT5.

crusadernm

You mean when the price of the game goes down over time. Duh. Thats a cop out excuse.

No not when the price goes down its like comparing FF to Mario in japan FF sells more than Mario at first week or maybe month but overtime any Mario game will outsell any FF game there even though Nintendo doesn't lower Mario games prices there.

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#13 Santesyu
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They both gonna sell extremely well, I think GT5 is gonna sell more consoles though overall.

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#14 Chutebox
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Oh god sales king :roll:FIipMode
I'm telling you guys, end game credits king is coming. It's only a matter of time.
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#15 crusadernm
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[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

you can't compare Halo sells a lot of copies at firs day its like a blockbuster but GT is a slow burner its sells a moderate amount of games at first day but it keeps selling for a very long time anyway over all probably Halo reach will sell more than GT5.

Kashiwaba

You mean when the price of the game goes down over time. Duh. Thats a cop out excuse.

No not when the price goes down its like comparing FF to Mario in japan FF sells more than Mario at first week or maybe month but overtime any Mario game will outsell any FF game there even though Nintendo doesn't lower Mario games prices there.

umm you can get ff 13 for like 25 bucks new these days.

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halo reach will have the better short-term sales...

but GT5 will have the better sales in the long run...

end of story...

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#17 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

You mean when the price of the game goes down over time. Duh. Thats a cop out excuse.

crusadernm

No not when the price goes down its like comparing FF to Mario in japan FF sells more than Mario at first week or maybe month but overtime any Mario game will outsell any FF game there even though Nintendo doesn't lower Mario games prices there.

umm you can get ff 13 for like 25 bucks new these days.

I said Nintendo doesn't lower their first party games prices no SE.

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#18 crusadernm
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halo reach will have the better short-term sales...

but GT5 will have the better sales in the long run...

end of story...

krato_sephiroth

Why do people keep saying this? Is there any proof to this?

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#19 crusadernm
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[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

No not when the price goes down its like comparing FF to Mario in japan FF sells more than Mario at first week or maybe month but overtime any Mario game will outsell any FF game there even though Nintendo doesn't lower Mario games prices there.

Kashiwaba

umm you can get ff 13 for like 25 bucks new these days.

I said Nintendo doesn't lower their first party games prices no SE.

You can get SMG 2 for 35 bucks new.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Wouldn't be fair to judge anyways since they're on different platforms with different install base numbers.crusadernm

They are pretty even today actually. less than 3 million apart.

Three million is a lot of consoles...
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#21 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="krato_sephiroth"]

halo reach will have the better short-term sales...

but GT5 will have the better sales in the long run...

end of story...

crusadernm

Why do people keep saying this? Is there any proof to this?

GT3 launched when PS2 install base was less than 10 mils and it managed to sell 15 mils units overtime.

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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]Oh god sales king :roll:Chutebox
I'm telling you guys, end game credits king is coming. It's only a matter of time.

that'd be interesting, best names in credits I've read, Im gonna start his like right now lol.

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#23 crusadernm
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[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Wouldn't be fair to judge anyways since they're on different platforms with different install base numbers.Stevo_the_gamer

They are pretty even today actually. less than 3 million apart.

Three million is a lot of consoles...

Not when the total between them is near 90 million.

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#24 Santesyu
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[QUOTE="krato_sephiroth"]

halo reach will have the better short-term sales...

but GT5 will have the better sales in the long run...

end of story...

crusadernm

Why do people keep saying this? Is there any proof to this?

Halo is a Burst game, first day it launches everyone will get it within the first month if not the first day. GT5 and GT in general usually will have more sales throughout its life then at the beginning of it..

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#25 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

umm you can get ff 13 for like 25 bucks new these days.

crusadernm

I said Nintendo doesn't lower their first party games prices no SE.

You can get SMG 2 for 35 bucks new.

where is that? and anyway I was talking about Japan :P.

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#26 crusadernm
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[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

[QUOTE="krato_sephiroth"]

halo reach will have the better short-term sales...

but GT5 will have the better sales in the long run...

end of story...

Kashiwaba

Why do people keep saying this? Is there any proof to this?

GT3 launched when PS2 install base was less than 10 mils and it managed to sell 15 mils units overtime.

Then why does GT 4 have lower sales with 140 million install base.

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And I wish Halo Reach and Killzone 3 would release on the same day to confirm sales King. Hahahhaa. "Humiliating defeat!"

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#28 mitu123
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True, but I'm getting Reach and not GT5, I don't need another overhyped racing series game.

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#29 crusadernm
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And I wish Halo Reach and Killzone 3 would release on the same day to confirm sales King. Hahahhaa. "Humiliating defeat!"

erglesmergle

that's why I didn't put those two together if it would make more sense. But that would be a completely unfair battle. lol.

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#30 BuryMe
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Why would you want to com[are the sales

of a racing sim to a shooter

No meaningful comparison can be drawn.

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#31 crusadernm
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Why would you want to com[are the sales

of a racing sim to a shooter

No meaningful comparison can be drawn.

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Because putting Reach against any other PS3 exclusive wouldn't be fair. Halo Reach would annihilate everything. At least GT 5 has a fighting chance.

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#32 ubpoker123
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My guess goes to Halo Reach.

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#33 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

Why do people keep saying this? Is there any proof to this?

crusadernm

GT3 launched when PS2 install base was less than 10 mils and it managed to sell 15 mils units overtime.

Then why does GT 4 have lower sales with 140 million install base.

Because it didn't sell as much as GT3. Just because it's a sequel doesn't guarantee it to sell the same or more.

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#34 crusadernm
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These are my contenders to beat Reach.

GT 5. Although this a popular game and no will doubt sell alot of copies. There is a particular uncertainly that exist. Oversaturation of racing games may dilute this genre and Racing simulation games don't have the pull it once had in the past.

COD: Black Ops. This has a really good chance to beat Reach's sales considering that it's released on two consoles and PC. But people may be starting to have COD fatigue. If sales were considered just for 360. No chance. Reach would beat COD hands down.

A Kinect Game. One word. Casuals. It could lead Kinect sales into the stratosphere. But their unpredictable nature leaves some doubt.

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It doesn't work that way. GT, Forza, and almost all other racers (sims and arcade) are more built upon legs than first month sales.
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GT5 release date is only for NA and Europe. Japan has to wait longer and GT5 could easily sell like 2-3 million in Japan alone.
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#37 lightleggy
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this holiday season. Would be an interesting battle. What do you think?

crusadernm
no, because halo would obviously win... halo 3 odst sold over 1 million copies THE FIRST DAY, do you really believe that a PS3 exclusive will outsell that?
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#38 SkaRy_RuLeZ
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Halo reach will probably have more midnight and first week sales, GT5 will probably have more sales than Halo after 2-3 months. Also, I'm pretty sure by the time GT5 is released most players will have abandoned Halo Reach somewhere in an out of reach shelf, so they can play black ops or medal of honor or whatever those soulless creatures that like modern FPS's play nowadays.

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#39 SkaRy_RuLeZ
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[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

this holiday season. Would be an interesting battle. What do you think?

lightleggy

no, because halo would obviously win... halo 3 odst sold over 1 million copies THE FIRST DAY, do you really believe that a PS3 exclusive will outsell that?

GT5 prologue sold almost as many copies as ODST, and it's basically a paid demo.

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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]Oh god sales king :roll:Chutebox
I'm telling you guys, end game credits king is coming. It's only a matter of time.

Modern Warfare has that on lock!

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#41 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="crusadernm"]

this holiday season. Would be an interesting battle. What do you think?

SkaRy_RuLeZ

no, because halo would obviously win... halo 3 odst sold over 1 million copies THE FIRST DAY, do you really believe that a PS3 exclusive will outsell that?

GT5 prologue sold almost as many copies as ODST, and it's basically a paid demo.

gt5p sold almost 5 million copies, I know that, but it did OVER TIME halo 3 odst sold 1 million IN ONE DAY that is what im trying to prove here...halo sells much faster and therefore it sells more...
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#42 Espada12
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True, but I'm getting Reach and not GT5, I don't need another overhyped racing series game.

mitu123

I dunno man if I had to choose between the overhyped FPS series and the overhyped racing one I'd go with the racing one.

[spoiler] jk I hate racing games for the most part and hate GT the most, plus I got the reach bundle on preorder :) [/spoiler]

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[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Wouldn't be fair to judge anyways since they're on different platforms with different install base numbers.Chutebox

They are pretty even today actually. less than 3 million apart.

It's more than 3 million apart.

Yeah, in the PS3s favor due to all these 360 owners having to buy multiple xbox's
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[QUOTE="SkaRy_RuLeZ"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] no, because halo would obviously win... halo 3 odst sold over 1 million copies THE FIRST DAY, do you really believe that a PS3 exclusive will outsell that?lightleggy

GT5 prologue sold almost as many copies as ODST, and it's basically a paid demo.

gt5p sold almost 5 million copies, I know that, but it did OVER TIME halo 3 odst sold 1 million IN ONE DAY that is what im trying to prove here...halo sells much faster and therefore it sells more...

Even though I'm not arguing Halos selling rate, I am curious to find out where you got those ODST day one sales.
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its doesnt matter if they relese the same day or not because gt5 will outsell haloreach no matter what. gt5 will have a huger sales than haloreach in 24 hours, gt5 will outsell haloreach in total in their life span, gt5 will outsell haloreach in npd gt5 will outsell haloreach in europe gt5 will outsell haloreach in japan gt5 will outsell haloreach worldwide imho no matter what plus gt5 graphics is better and more people will be onine for gt5 everyday than haloreach

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#46 SkaRy_RuLeZ
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[QUOTE="SkaRy_RuLeZ"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] no, because halo would obviously win... halo 3 odst sold over 1 million copies THE FIRST DAY, do you really believe that a PS3 exclusive will outsell that?lightleggy

GT5 prologue sold almost as many copies as ODST, and it's basically a paid demo.

gt5p sold almost 5 million copies, I know that, but it did OVER TIME halo 3 odst sold 1 million IN ONE DAY that is what im trying to prove here...halo sells much faster and therefore it sells more...

Still, GT5 sits at 5 million copies sold while ODST sits at 5.5 million. Halo sells faster because its mindless zombies lining up on day one for sale. Gran Turismo is the kind of game that gamers enjoy, professional drivers enjoy, casual adults enjoy, and this are the kind of people who won't go at midnight to a store to buy a game. Seriously, GT4 is still used nowadays on driving shows like top gear to make comparisons and tests, and this is a fairly old game..

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#47 SkaRy_RuLeZ
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^ meant gt5 prologue

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#48 Shad0ki11
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I still don't understand why these gamers give a damn about game sales.

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#49 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="SkaRy_RuLeZ"]

GT5 prologue sold almost as many copies as ODST, and it's basically a paid demo.

FIipMode

gt5p sold almost 5 million copies, I know that, but it did OVER TIME halo 3 odst sold 1 million IN ONE DAY that is what im trying to prove here...halo sells much faster and therefore it sells more...

Even though I'm not arguing Halos selling rate, I am curious to find out where you got those ODST day one sales.

dont worry, it was NOT vgchartz

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I think people who have an xbox will buy reach and people who own a ps3 will buy GT5. however narrow that down to people who like fps games would buy Reach and people who like racing games will buy GT5. I think they are two different games on different consoles where even if they released on the same day their sales wont hurt each other much. Even for those with a 360 and a ps3 most will buy both, either that they will stick with genre they prefer. So no I dont think it would be interesting