I love how sheep believe that an input device is the only thing that equals...

I agree with the most part.

Many wii fans here are acting like the wiimote will make games automatically better. It's just different. Through it could be better or could be worse.

I desagree with one part. The Wii can still produce good graphics, good Ai etc... even through its lack of power. Lastgan consoles did so.

[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]Wiimote has a unique gaming experience, thus wii sports, thus wii sales. the end.Uptown

Thus Wii Sports is crappy after 3 weeks

 not really true i still play Wii sports cuz its fun

[QUOTE="samusarmada"] would you rather play mario 64 with a D-pad or an analogue stick.Runningflame570

Also..you know you just owned all the owners of Super Mario 64 DS, right?

let me know how that gameplay works out for you in rockstar table tennis using an atari paddle

voxware00

[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]Wiimote has a unique gaming experience, thus wii sports, thus wii sales. the end.Uptown

Thus Wii Sports is crappy after 3 weeks

[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]Wiimote has a unique gaming experience, thus wii sports, thus wii sales. the end.Uptown

Thus Wii Sports is crappy after 3 weeks

I was completely addicted for about two months.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="NicktehImperial"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]ok i agree that yes it takes more than controls to make great gameplay. but it isnt like the wii isnt capable of more than last gen consoles, its stronger than all 3. right now though it got alot of ports. and yes although the wii is capable of more it will never do what 360 and PS3 do. but the games on the wii are good. from a score standpoint games like warioware and zelda are better than the entire ps3 lineup. ofcourse elder scrolls will change that(but thats a year old multiplat game). the wii also provides the better version of madden and trauma center, rayman, and wii sports. also the future lineup for the system looks great. with super mario galaxy, smash bros brawl, metroid prime 3, fire emblem, superpapermario, no more heroes, disaster, project hammer, resident evil, sadness, battallion wars 2, etc. is it 360 worthy yet no. but its better than PS3 IMONicktehImperial

[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]Wiimote has a unique gaming experience, thus wii sports, thus wii sales. the end.Uptown

Thus Wii Sports is crappy after 3 weeks

*Points to sales charts*

I honestly mostly agree with you... because a lot of the developers are putting too much into the Wiimote and not enough into making the game top notch.  I'm already getting sick of minigames and the gimmicky things developers are putting into games.  Don't get me wrong, I love the console and its potential, but developers just don't know how to work with the hardware they have.... or at least not to the extent that Nintendo does.  I do think that the wiimote adds something more to the gameplay though, which is an advantage for Wii over the PS3 and Xbox 360.

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[QUOTE="samusarmada"] would you rather play mario 64 with a D-pad or an analogue stick.samusarmada

Also..you know you just owned all the owners of Super Mario 64 DS, right?

[QUOTE="samusarmada"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]

[QUOTE="samusarmada"] would you rather play mario 64 with a D-pad or an analogue stick.Ezgam3r

Also..you know you just owned all the owners of Super Mario 64 DS, right?

[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="samusarmada"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]

[QUOTE="samusarmada"] would you rather play mario 64 with a D-pad or an analogue stick.coreygames

Also..you know you just owned all the owners of Super Mario 64 DS, right?

Does Street Fighter gameplay improves if you play with an arcade joystick instead of a pad? NO , its the same gameplay , just the input method changed, same with wiimote what do you prefer, playing NFS Most Wanted with a joypad, or playing Ridge Racer 1 with an accurate realistic Steering Wheel with pedals??? the wiimote has done NOTHING for gameplay, nintendo has sold the illusion that it has and sheep swallow it big timeGears360

[QUOTE="samusarmada"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]

[QUOTE="samusarmada"] would you rather play mario 64 with a D-pad or an analogue stick.Ezgam3r

Also..you know you just owned all the owners of Super Mario 64 DS, right?

[QUOTE="Gears360"]Does Street Fighter gameplay improves if you play with an arcade joystick instead of a pad? NO , its the same gameplay , just the input method changed, same with wiimote what do you prefer, playing NFS Most Wanted with a joypad, or playing Ridge Racer 1 with an accurate realistic Steering Wheel with pedals??? the wiimote has done NOTHING for gameplay, nintendo has sold the illusion that it has and sheep swallow it big timeThe_end_of_doom

[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="samusarmada"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]

[QUOTE="samusarmada"] would you rather play mario 64 with a D-pad or an analogue stick.The_end_of_doom

Also..you know you just owned all the owners of Super Mario 64 DS, right?

[QUOTE="The_end_of_doom"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="samusarmada"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]

[QUOTE="samusarmada"] would you rather play mario 64 with a D-pad or an analogue stick.Ezgam3r

Also..you know you just owned all the owners of Super Mario 64 DS, right?

[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="The_end_of_doom"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="samusarmada"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]

[QUOTE="samusarmada"] would you rather play mario 64 with a D-pad or an analogue stick.coreygames

Also..you know you just owned all the owners of Super Mario 64 DS, right?

[QUOTE="coreygames"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="The_end_of_doom"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="samusarmada"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]

[QUOTE="samusarmada"] would you rather play mario 64 with a D-pad or an analogue stick.Ezgam3r

Also..you know you just owned all the owners of Super Mario 64 DS, right?

Classic Controller. 

[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="coreygames"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="The_end_of_doom"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="samusarmada"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]

[QUOTE="samusarmada"] would you rather play mario 64 with a D-pad or an analogue stick.AntiType

Also..you know you just owned all the owners of Super Mario 64 DS, right?

Classic Controller. 

[QUOTE="AntiType"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="coreygames"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="The_end_of_doom"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="samusarmada"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]

[QUOTE="samusarmada"] would you rather play mario 64 with a D-pad or an analogue stick.ArisShadows

Also..you know you just owned all the owners of Super Mario 64 DS, right?

Classic Controller.

Ive never tried it... but no mater if some genre does not somehow work with the remote/nunchuk. ther is ALWAYS the Classic Controller deveolopers can fall back on... so when it comes to control... there is really no arguement against the Wii. 

Gameplay-wise... anything 260/ps3 can do... the Wii can do... the same cant be said the other way around.AntiType

Ive never tried it... but no mater if some genre does not somehow work with the remote nunchuk. ther is ALWAYS the Classic Controller deveolopers can fall back on... so when it comes to control... there is really no arguement against the Wii.AntiType

classic controller is not standard on wii, its an accesory people has to buy, developers cant make a game assuming that everyone has a classic controller, what everybody has is a wiimote

I disagree a little where you say a crappy game with motion sensing is still a crappy game. All of the Wii games I've got (Wii Sports, Wii Play, Red Steel, Tony Hawk's, GT Pro Series) would all be absolute crap if it weren't for the motion sensing controls.

Sure, All of those games I mentioned (except for Wii Sports) got pretty mediocre reviews but imagine what they would've got with regular controls, Wii Play and GT Pro Series especially.

[QUOTE="AntiType"]

Ive never tried it... but no mater if some genre does not somehow work with the remote nunchuk. ther is ALWAYS the Classic Controller deveolopers can fall back on... so when it comes to control... there is really no arguement against the Wii.Gears360

classic controller is not standard on wii, its an accesory people has to buy, developers cant make a game assuming that everyone has a classic controller, what everybody has is a wiimote

Yuh, but there is never a reason not to include support for the CC. Every dev will probably try to make fighting games with the remote and it may or maynot work out... but then they can just include an option for CC and its prefect. I beleive Mortal Kombat is already confirmed to be doing this very thing. 

[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="coreygames"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="The_end_of_doom"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="samusarmada"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]

[QUOTE="samusarmada"] would you rather play mario 64 with a D-pad or an analogue stick.AntiType

Also..you know you just owned all the owners of Super Mario 64 DS, right?

Classic Controller.

[QUOTE="Uptown"]

gameplay.

 

"Wii is all about gameplay and fun!" ....Just because you flick your wrist doesnt mean the game is automatically going to be good people. It still needs to be solid from its in-game instructions. Sure it brings something fresh to the table...but a crappy game will still be a crappy game. If this were the logic, every Wii game would score a 9.0+ because the gameplay is so frigging remarkable thanks to the Wiimote. Unfortunately thats not the case.

AI, Physics, Controls, Graphics, Sound all have a piece of the gameplay pie. The Wiimote cant compensate for all this on its own most of the time. As proven by its lack of quality titles. Everyone says the PS3 has no games but it has more 8.0+ titles than the Wii....and lets not even go near the 360 because we know that thing is a quality game magnet....and it doesnt have wrist flicking. *Waits for sheep to bring up sales*

Unforgiven2870

 You know that being drunk make everything fun , even playing Big rigs .

reduce the polygons/detail the apropriate amount then it is sure to run ^__^AntiType

reduce the polygons/detail the apropriate amount then it is sure to run ^__^AntiType

actually on wii it would look similar to this very same screenshot 

[QUOTE="AntiType"]reduce the polygons/detail the apropriate amount then it is sure to run ^__^Gears360

reduce the polygons/detail the apropriate amount then it is sure to run ^__^AntiType

actually on wii it would look similar to this very same screenshot 

[QUOTE="AntiType"]reduce the polygons/detail the apropriate amount then it is sure to run ^__^Gears360

reduce the polygons/detail the apropriate amount then it is sure to run ^__^AntiType

actually on wii it would look similar to this very same screenshot

yes but the point is that on 360/PS3 it would be possible (it could have an sticker which say: This game requires 720p resolution) 

Wii has left you completely out of this game forever

yes but the point is that on 360/PS3 it would be possible (it could have an sticker which say: This game requires 720p resolution)

Wii has left you completely out of this game forever

Gears360

Well, the counter-argument is that if there was no input device, then all you're doing is watching a movie. How is that gameplay?Zhengi

[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]Wiimote has a unique gaming experience, thus wii sports, thus wii sales. the end.Uptown

Thus Wii Sports is crappy after 3 weeks

[QUOTE="Gears360"]

[QUOTE="AntiType"]reduce the polygons/detail the apropriate amount then it is sure to run ^__^General_X

reduce the polygons/detail the apropriate amount then it is sure to run ^__^AntiType

actually on wii it would look similar to this very same screenshot