How did SONY loose the gaming crown?

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#1 Second_Hokage
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PS1, 100+ millions. PS2, 100+ millions. PS3... Third place. How did this happen?
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PS1, 100+ millions. PS2, 100+ millions. PS3... Third place. How did this happen?Second_Hokage
microsoft xbox and a boom in pc gaming happened. thatd be what happened. a systems brightening star + a successful up-and-comer mean there were fewer hands with money extended

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$599 PS3

unsecured PSN

$249 Vita + expensive memory cards

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$599 PS3

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$249 Vita + expensive memory cards

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[QUOTE="Second_Hokage"]PS1, 100+ millions. PS2, 100+ millions. PS3... Third place. How did this happen?ionusX

microsoft xbox and a boom in pc gaming happened. thatd be what happened. a systems brightening star + a successful up-and-comer mean there were fewer hands with money extended

Thread is now done, please learn to spell "lose" correctly.
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Initially I would say Sony overestimated the selling-power of Blu-Ray, and got owned by MS friendly development environment and ATI unified shader architecture.

However, after further consideration I realized the Wii took all of the PS1/PS2 casuals and left Sony with an overpriced BD trojan horse to battle against MS.

So basically they got f*cked up by Nintendo.

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japanese support from what i believe. the ps2 had more more japanese support then the ps3. plus developers decide to take the easy route and develop games for the ds/psp

though that is just my observation

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#7 Bigboi500
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japanese support from what i believe. the ps2 had more more japanese support then the ps3. plus developers decide to take the easy route and develop games for the ds/psp

though that is just my observation

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Yep. For some reason Sony decided to focus on way too many shooters this gen. Last generation they had the best Japanese and JRPG support but they lost that to Nintendo this generation.

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#8 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Second_Hokage"]PS1, 100+ millions. PS2, 100+ millions. PS3... Third place. How did this happen?

They got arrogant and made some huge mistakes, they assumed that just like with the Ps2 and Ps1 developers would want to develope games on there console more than the other consoles, this backfired because MS had already released a console that was Developer friendly and gave developers a good return on there investment and supported engines that where already in mass use for games on the PC , they also put too much faith in Brand loyalty, they assumed that peple would pay for the most expensive console ever released because it was the playstation brand, big mistake because for most people Cost is a bigger issue than Brand loyalty when it comes to buying harware unless you have money to burn, There biggest mistake by Far though was advertising the Ps3 more as a blu-ray player than a games machine.
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you're a moron 110m ps1 160m ps2 67m ps3 Plus the ps3 outsold the wii360 combined last quarter :cool:
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#10 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Second_Hokage"]PS1, 100+ millions. PS2, 100+ millions. PS3... Third place. How did this happen?delta3074
They got arrogant and made some huge mistakes, they assumed that just like with the Ps2 and Ps1 developers would want to develope games on there console more than the other consoles, this backfired because MS had already released a console that was Developer friendly and gave developers a good return on there investment and supported engines that where already in mass use for games on the PC , they also put too much faith in Brand loyalty, they assumed that peple would pay for the most expensive console ever released because it was the playstation brand, big mistake because for most people Cost is a bigger issue than Brand loyalty when it comes to buying harware unless you have money to burn, There biggest mistake by Far though was advertising the Ps3 more as a blu-ray player than a games machine.

Arrogance, as you said, the high price tag at launch, losing the casual crowd to the Wii, and the 360 having much better JRPG support at the start of the generation all combined to devestate the Playstation user base.

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#11 delta3074
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[QUOTE="DrewMcintyre619"]you're a moron 110m ps1 160m ps2 67m ps3 Plus the ps3 outsold the wii360 combined last quarter :cool:

actually, your post just proved his point, the Ps3 has sold less than the PS1 and Ps2 sold yet it has been out nearly 3 years longer than both of them, you should actually think about what you post because you just technically owned yourself whilst proving the TC's point, good job batman,lol
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I have to ask if using the word "loose" instead of "lose" is a subtle troll. I've seen it done here and I imediately think of loosingENDS :lol:

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I have to ask if using the word "loose" instead of "lose" is a subtle troll. I've seen it done here and I imediately think of loosingENDS :lol:

lundy86_4
sounds like you need a new ps3 game
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I have to ask if using the word "loose" instead of "lose" is a subtle troll. I've seen it done here and I imediately think of loosingENDS :lol:

PinnacleGamingP

sounds like you need a new ps3 game

Nah. Between a new puppy and The Witcher 2 for 360... I'm good.

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Have you been hibernating for 6 years?
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="DrewMcintyre619"]you're a moron 110m ps1 160m ps2 67m ps3 Plus the ps3 outsold the wii360 combined last quarter :cool:

actually, your post just proved his point, the Ps3 has sold less than the PS1 and Ps2 sold yet it has been out nearly 3 years longer than both of them, you should actually think about what you post because you just technically owned yourself whilst proving the TC's point, good job batman,lol

what the hell are you on about? the ps2 came out in 2000 and it's still selling? it just outsold the wii and 360 this quarter! u fail
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#17 PinnacleGamingP
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I have to ask if using the word "loose" instead of "lose" is a subtle troll. I've seen it done here and I imediately think of loosingENDS :lol:

sounds like you need a new ps3 game

Nah. Between a new puppy and The Witcher 2 for 360... I'm good.

a true gamer would never turn down a new game
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="DrewMcintyre619"]you're a moron 110m ps1 160m ps2 67m ps3 Plus the ps3 outsold the wii360 combined last quarter :cool:DrewMcintyre619
actually, your post just proved his point, the Ps3 has sold less than the PS1 and Ps2 sold yet it has been out nearly 3 years longer than both of them, you should actually think about what you post because you just technically owned yourself whilst proving the TC's point, good job batman,lol

what the hell are you on about? the ps2 came out in 2000 and it's still selling? it just outsold the wii and 360 this quarter! u fail

which is why GS said sony is first place in terms of sales
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"] sounds like you need a new ps3 gamePinnacleGamingP

Nah. Between a new puppy and The Witcher 2 for 360... I'm good.

a true gamer would never turn down a new game

A true gamer would never pledge his unquestionable loyalty to a faceless multi-national corporation that only cares about money,as it is with any bussiness.

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Poor Lems they will try everything to make it look like the 360 actually has games worth to play

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#21 PinnacleGamingP
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Nah. Between a new puppy and The Witcher 2 for 360... I'm good.

a true gamer would never turn down a new game

A true gamer would never pledge his unquestionable loyalty to a faceless multi-national corporation that only cares about money,as it is with any bussiness.

ok but why you so mad?
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#22 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"] a true gamer would never turn down a new gamePinnacleGamingP

A true gamer would never pledge his unquestionable loyalty to a faceless multi-national corporation that only cares about money,as it is with any bussiness.

ok but why you so mad?

I'm just amused by your mindset,that is all :)

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#23 PinnacleGamingP
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

A true gamer would never pledge his unquestionable loyalty to a faceless multi-national corporation that only cares about money,as it is with any bussiness.

ok but why you so mad?

I'm just amused by your mindset,that is all :)

what you think this is bro an amusement park?
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#24 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"] ok but why you so mad?PinnacleGamingP

I'm just amused by your mindset,that is all :)

what you think this is bro an amusement park?

More like a zoo,one where cows have the most laughable acts ;)

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3rd party....
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Ken went crazy

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Poor Lems they will try everything to make it look like the 360 actually has games worth to play

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Poor cows they will try everything to make it look like last place loserville is cool
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599, and a shoddy launch. The Wii, and the Xbox 360 also proved to be fierce competitors. Economy in the sh*t too might have affected it.
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#29 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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[QUOTE="Second_Hokage"]PS1, 100+ millions. PS2, 100+ millions. PS3... Third place. How did this happen?

The original Xbox happened.
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#30 tastetheacidmil
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Poor Lems they will try everything to make it look like the 360 actually has games worth to play

spiderluck
Poor cows they will try everything to make it look like last place loserville is cool

or make it look like these exclusives they talk about which they don't even buy are actually all good
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They never lost it. More exclusives, more award winning exclusives, more gotys.

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[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Poor Lems they will try everything to make it look like the 360 actually has games worth to play

tastetheacidmil
Poor cows they will try everything to make it look like last place loserville is cool

or make it look like these exclusives they talk about which they don't even buy are actually all good

But sales don't reflect how much a game will be enjoyed. I like resistance as much as halo.
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$599 PS3

unsecured PSN

$249 Vita + expensive memory cards

Bigboi500

Unsecured PSN had nothing to do with Sony being in 3rd place. Only thing that did was the $600 price point and launching 1 year later then the Xbox 360. They would've been firmly in 2nd had they not done those 2 things. Nothing was going to stop the Wii from getting first though.

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They never lost it. More exclusives, more award winning exclusives, more gotys.ispeakfact
Sorry, but nothing you can say can dispute the fact that Sony isn't the dominant force they once were. Oddly enough, the ps3 is doing the same thing the original Xbox was back in its time. ***lol@retail king pic.
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[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="Second_Hokage"]PS1, 100+ millions. PS2, 100+ millions. PS3... Third place. How did this happen?

The original Xbox happened.

You mean 360 since orignal xbox didn't put a dent in ps2's victory.
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[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]They never lost it. More exclusives, more award winning exclusives, more gotys.Heirren
Sorry, but nothing you can say can dispute the fact that Sony isn't the dominant force they once were. Oddly enough, the ps3 is doing the same thing the original Xbox was back in its time.

Everything i say proves this, my son.
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#37 PinnacleGamingP
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[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]They never lost it. More exclusives, more award winning exclusives, more gotys.Heirren
Sorry, but nothing you can say can dispute the fact that Sony isn't the dominant force they once were. Oddly enough, the ps3 is doing the same thing the original Xbox was back in its time.

thats funny, cuz gamespot just said sony is 1st place in revenue, thats a pretty dominating brand right there, and ill take that article over a charizard thread
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They never lost it. More exclusives, more award winning exclusives, more gotys.ispeakfact
So ...when the wondrous sonymobile goes from 200 miles an hour to 30 miles an hour it's not slowing down, it's gaining inertia....right???
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How did SONY loose the gaming crown?Second_Hokage
Maybe it was in a catapult and loosed that way. Some sort of mechanism that propels it through the air must have been used I suppose.

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[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]They never lost it. More exclusives, more award winning exclusives, more gotys.spiderluck
So ...when the wondrous sonymobile goes from 200 miles an hour to 30 miles an hour it's not slowing down, it's gaining inertia....right???

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[QUOTE="p4s2p0"][QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="Second_Hokage"]PS1, 100+ millions. PS2, 100+ millions. PS3... Third place. How did this happen?

The original Xbox happened.

You mean 360 since orignal xbox didn't put a dent in ps2's victory.

No, I mean the original. The Xbox brand only got bigger and bigger as time went by that gen, at least in the US. The 360, while more competitive in sales, is actually doing the opposite--diminishing the Xbox brand.
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[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="ispeakfact"]They never lost it. More exclusives, more award winning exclusives, more gotys.PinnacleGamingP
Sorry, but nothing you can say can dispute the fact that Sony isn't the dominant force they once were. Oddly enough, the ps3 is doing the same thing the original Xbox was back in its time.

thats funny, cuz gamespot just said sony is 1st place in revenue, thats a pretty dominating brand right there, and ill take that article over a charizard thread

First place in revenue...last in profits.....how exactly does that work....oh well....i'm sure your accounting wizardry will see them thru this
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$600 launch and no Playstation mascot leading the way

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[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="p4s2p0"][QUOTE="Heirren"] The original Xbox happened.

You mean 360 since orignal xbox didn't put a dent in ps2's victory.

No, I mean the original. The Xbox brand only got bigger and bigger as time went by that gen, at least in the US. The 360, while more competitive in sales, is actually doing the opposite--diminishing the Xbox brand.

Please....it all made sense til your last statement.....how can the 360 be diminishing the xbox brand while at the same time outselling both the wii and ps3....it is in FACT still getting bigger and bigger as time goes by.....you do realise that the more Kleenex you sell , the more likely you are to have people who hate Kleenex....It's the price to pay for dominance
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its basically a tie for sony&ms so

ricky-bobby-if-you-aint-first.jpeg

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i don't think there is any one reason why or when it happened but a few different ones like when the 360 launched first american gamers rushed to get it to see hd graphics, then when the ps3 launched at its insane price most gamers in america at least didn't care because they ether already had a hd system or they were happy with the ps2 still, and sony still supporting the ps2 also the apparent difficulty it is for developers to make games on blue ray were making some 3rd party games look or play better on the 360 over the ps3 for the first few years of the ps3's life.
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[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="p4s2p0"] You mean 360 since orignal xbox didn't put a dent in ps2's victory.

No, I mean the original. The Xbox brand only got bigger and bigger as time went by that gen, at least in the US. The 360, while more competitive in sales, is actually doing the opposite--diminishing the Xbox brand.

Please....it all made sense til your last statement.....how can the 360 be diminishing the xbox brand while at the same time outselling both the wii and ps3....it is in FACT still getting bigger and bigger as time goes by.....you do realise that the more Kleenex you sell , the more likely you are to have people who hate Kleenex....It's the price to pay for dominance

Because it is growing in an unproven market--the casual one. Nintendo understands this. Even though the wii was a massive success, regaining the core gaming market with wiiu will be a difficult task. The same market that bought the wii will likely not all return to wiiu.
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#48 spiderluck
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its basically a tie for sony&ms so

ricky-bobby-if-you-aint-first.jpeg

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yup...i'm sure 100 % of athletes at the Olympics would prefer getting gold over silver or bronze, as i'm also sure that same 100 % would prefer getting silver over bronze,,, it's called relativity
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"] sounds like you need a new ps3 gamePinnacleGamingP

Nah. Between a new puppy and The Witcher 2 for 360... I'm good.

a true gamer would never turn down a new game

true gamers don't live in a basement and own only a ps3.
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#50 tonitorsi
Member since 2006 • 8692 Posts

They can still get it back.