How did Forza 5 outscore Gran Turismo 6 again? *UPDATED*

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#351  Edited By lostrib
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@lundy86_4 said:

Who had a meltdown?

lol, take a guess

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@lostrib said:

@lundy86_4 said:

Who had a meltdown?

lol, take a guess

I'mma guess with Matherson...

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#353 John_Matherson
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@lostrib said:

@lundy86_4 said:

Who had a meltdown?

lol, take a guess

rib tips has 20712 posts of trolling and spam and just being useless...

Lundy has @ 38730 posts of asking people if they're butthurt.

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#354 lostrib
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@John_Matherson said:

@lostrib said:

@lundy86_4 said:

Who had a meltdown?

lol, take a guess

rib tips has 20712 posts of trolling and spam and just being useless...

Lundy has @ 38730 posts of asking people if they're butthurt.

That's not true at all. I'm helpful on the PC Gaming Board/PC hardware board.

And I'm sure lundy doesn't just ask people if they're butthurt, at least half of his posts have to be gifs

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#355  Edited By lundy86_4
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@John_Matherson said:

@lostrib said:

@lundy86_4 said:

Who had a meltdown?

lol, take a guess

rib tips has 20712 posts of trolling and spam and just being useless...

Lundy has @ 38730 posts of asking people if they're butthurt.

This sounds like a meltdown, Mr. Joinedin2013. Also, my count is at 39,942.

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#356  Edited By John_Matherson
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@lundy86_4 said:

@John_Matherson said:

@lostrib said:

@lundy86_4 said:

Who had a meltdown?

lol, take a guess

rib tips has 20712 posts of trolling and spam and just being useless...

Lundy has @ 38730 posts of asking people if they're butthurt.

This sounds like a meltdown, Mr. Joinedin2013.

LMAO using how long you've been here to suggest you're entitled to some form of credibility. Epic Fail Step 1

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#357  Edited By lostrib
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@John_Matherson said:

@lundy86_4 said:

@John_Matherson said:

@lostrib said:

@lundy86_4 said:

Who had a meltdown?

lol, take a guess

rib tips has 20712 posts of trolling and spam and just being useless...

Lundy has @ 38730 posts of asking people if they're butthurt.

This sounds like a meltdown, Mr. Joinedin2013.

LMAO using how long you've been here to suggest you're entitled to some form of credibility. Epic Fail Step 1

lundy is much more credible than you on SW...and I assume he's drunk most of the time

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#358  Edited By lundy86_4
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@John_Matherson said:

LMAO using how long you've been here to suggest you're entitled to some form of credibility. Epic Fail Step 1

I didn't use how long i've been here.

@lostrib said:

lundy is much more credible than you on SW...and I assume he's drunk most of the time

It's true. I'm kinda drunk now. Is this my legacy?

@lostrib said:

That's not true at all. I'm helpful on the PC Gaming Board/PC hardware board.

And I'm sure lundy doesn't just ask people if they're butthurt, at least half of his posts have to be gifs.

This is true.

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#359 Couth_
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Bunch of people who don't even play racing games ITT I will murk all of you 1v1

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#360  Edited By lostrib
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@lundy86_4 said:

@John_Matherson said:

LMAO using how long you've been here to suggest you're entitled to some form of credibility. Epic Fail Step 1

I didn't use how long i've been here.

@lostrib said:

lundy is much more credible than you on SW...and I assume he's drunk most of the time

It's true. I'm kinda drunk now. Is this my legacy?

@lostrib said:

That's not true at all. I'm helpful on the PC Gaming Board/PC hardware board.

And I'm sure lundy doesn't just ask people if they're butthurt, at least half of his posts have to be gifs.

This is true.

Lol, I've just noticed how often you mention that you're drunk. And you still make more sense and better posts than the majority of system wars

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#361  Edited By lundy86_4
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@lostrib said:

Lol, I've just noticed how often you mention that you're drunk. And you still make more sense and better posts than the majority of system wars

I'm humbled lol... I only get drunk, like, 3 times a week... Maybe more if i'm out with friends.

SW is always fun to visit when drinking... You know, because some people are fucking idiots.

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#362 John_Matherson
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Take your bromance moment to the PM

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#363  Edited By lostrib
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@John_Matherson said:

Take your bromance moment to the PM

Get out of here with your intolerance

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#364  Edited By lundy86_4
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@John_Matherson said:

Take your bromance moment to the PM

I'm not sure if you could cry more... Poet, and all that.

Furthermore, you didn't answer my reply. Stop being wrong.

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@John_Matherson said:

Take your bromance moment to the PM

You just want your butt to hurt.

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#366  Edited By uninspiredcup
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By being a better game.

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#367 John_Matherson
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By being reviewed by a paid noob.

That's what I've been trying to say!!!

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#368 uninspiredcup
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But it's a better game.

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#369  Edited By Snugenz
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@uninspiredcup said:

But it's a better game.

Reviews would back that up alright, shame the fanboys can't grasp that simple fact.

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#370  Edited By John_Matherson
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@Snugenz said:

@uninspiredcup said:

But it's a better game.

Reviews would back that up alright, shame the fanboys can't grasp that simple fact.

Except that...It's not.

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@John_Matherson said:

Except that...It's not.

You say that, of course, by the time you spent playing both, correct?

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#372 Snugenz
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@John_Matherson said:

@Snugenz said:

@uninspiredcup said:

But it's a better game.

Reviews would back that up alright, shame the fanboys can't grasp that simple fact.

Except that...It's not.

See what i mean folks, they (hint: above) just can't grasp it...

So sad

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#373 Vaasman
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@John_Matherson said:

@Snugenz said:

@uninspiredcup said:

But it's a better game.

Reviews would back that up alright, shame the fanboys can't grasp that simple fact.

Except that...It's not.

That's not what the gamespot reviews said.

9>7

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@R3FURBISHED said:

@John_Matherson said:

Except that...It's not.

You say that, of course, by the time you spent playing both, correct?

Now why would someone spend time playing both games and forming their own opinion when they can just cherry pick the game they like and pretend any positive feedback for the game they don't like is because of a bribe to the reviewer?

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#375 John_Matherson
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@Vaasman said:

@John_Matherson said:

@Snugenz said:

@uninspiredcup said:

But it's a better game.

Reviews would back that up alright, shame the fanboys can't grasp that simple fact.

Except that...It's not.

That's not what the microsoft paycheck said

9>7

fixed

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#376 John_Matherson
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@brucebenzing said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

@John_Matherson said:

Except that...It's not.

You say that, of course, by the time you spent playing both, correct?

Now why would someone spend time playing both games and forming their own opinion when they can just cherry pick the game they like and pretend any positive feedback for the game they don't like is because of a bribe to the reviewer?

Hmmmm Gee because I own a brain and don't need to waste my money when I can already see what's clear in front of me. I can easily play both if I wanted...Not that interested. But that's not going to stop be from pointing out bullshit when I see it.

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#377 Jakandsigz
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I was wondering why this thread has 8 pages until i realized it was john being butthurt about a GS score that actually rated it for the same reason a lot of the other reviewers on MC rated it over GT6. Almost all negatives are only content for forza 5.

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@John_Matherson said:

I own a brain

You had to buy a brain?

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#379  Edited By Opus_Rea-333
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@John_Matherson said:

@brucebenzing said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

@John_Matherson said:

Except that...It's not.

You say that, of course, by the time you spent playing both, correct?

Now why would someone spend time playing both games and forming their own opinion when they can just cherry pick the game they like and pretend any positive feedback for the game they don't like is because of a bribe to the reviewer?

Hmmmm Gee because I own a brain and don't need to waste my money when I can already see what's clear in front of me. I can easily play both if I wanted...Not that interested. But that's not going to stop be from pointing out bullshit when I see it.

so we expect more anti-Xbox One threads from you then. cool.

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@Opus_Rea-333 said:

@John_Matherson said:

@brucebenzing said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

@John_Matherson said:

Except that...It's not.

You say that, of course, by the time you spent playing both, correct?

Now why would someone spend time playing both games and forming their own opinion when they can just cherry pick the game they like and pretend any positive feedback for the game they don't like is because of a bribe to the reviewer?

Hmmmm Gee because I own a brain and don't need to waste my money when I can already see what's clear in front of me. I can easily play both if I wanted...Not that interested. But that's not going to stop be from pointing out bullshit when I see it.

so we expect more anti-Xbox One threads from you then. cool.

Expect more well put together and thought out threads that will contain lemmings bitching and conducting damage control for 8 pages and more because their company got busted paying off reviewers.

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#381  Edited By Opus_Rea-333
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lostrib how to tips: (cortesy of LostRib)

Lesson 1: Turn John Matherson into a crazy clueless meltdown mode Sony shill.

Secret: Use common sense.

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@John_Matherson said:

@Vaasman said:

@John_Matherson said:

@Snugenz said:

@uninspiredcup said:

But it's a better game.

Reviews would back that up alright, shame the fanboys can't grasp that simple fact.

Except that...It's not.

That's not what the microsoft paycheck said

9>7

fixed

Says the guy who takes Sony's paychecks.

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@Vaasman said:

Says the guy who takes Sony's paychecks.

With investments that bad, no wonder Sony is going broke...

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#384  Edited By Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Still waiting on that reply, John.

@Couth_ said:

Bunch of people who don't even play racing games ITT I will murk all of you 1v1

DiRT 3 too?

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@Stevo_the_gamer said:

Still waiting on that reply, John.

@Couth_ said:

Bunch of people who don't even play racing games ITT I will murk all of you 1v1

DiRT 3 too?

I already said I was done running circles with you.

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@Opus_Rea-333 said:

lostrib how to tips: (cortesy of LostRib)

Lesson 1: Turn John Matherson into a crazy clueless meltdown mode Sony shill.

Secret: Use common sense.

LMAO you guys sck lostrib's too much. No wonder the idiot actually thinks he's effective. LMAOO!

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#387  Edited By edwardecl
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Forza 5 looks spectacular during night races, the weather system is also top notch. The variety of tracks are awesome too. Rallying is great too.

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#388  Edited By John_Matherson
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Forza 5 looks spectacular during night races, the weather system is also top notch. The variety of tracks are awesome too. Rallying is great too.

LMAOO Forza 5 has a weather system? Fail. Try again.

The more I try to reason with it the angrier I get. GS is stupid for this bullshit.

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#389  Edited By Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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@John_Matherson said:

I already said I was done running circles with you.

Translation: "I did not have a reasonable retort to your reasonable commentary, and thus I am now admitting defeat."

?

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#390  Edited By John_Matherson
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@Stevo_the_gamer said:

@John_Matherson said:

I already said I was done running circles with you.

Translation: "I did not have a reasonable retort to your reasonable commentary, and thus I am now admitting defeat."

?

Translation I literally just ran loops with you with the past responses since you're going out of your way to make excuses for the stupid game and the idiot reviewer. I've addressed everything you've mentioned and you keep using subjective statement to dismiss facts. You're literally working your butt off to dismiss facts. You keep trying to understand my perspective when even when I list characters and factual details of both games they are facts and fact doesn't require perspective. It;s a fact that you can't breathe in space regardless of whether I say it or whether you say it...It's a fact when I say Forza has 200 cars and 14 tracks...because it has 200 cars and 14 tracks. to All my mentioned arguments are created based on factual properties of both games. I don't care why the reviewer ignored things that are a major aspect of the games...I just care that he did. I don't want you to make excuses for him. If I tell you it's going to rain based on my observation of the clouds and the sudden change from a previously sunny weather, you should address all the supporting components of my prediction like you should address the weather change and the sudden dark clouds. What you shouldn't do is try to bypass the prediction by trying to establish that there's some sort of personal motive behind me saying it's going to rain or that I personally want it to rain. Again, address what I'm saying because all your reasons for why I'm saying them are all going to be subjective guesses. It's running circles because my OP is challenging why the review appears shady and inconsistent and you're challenging why I think they appear shady and inconsistent...Both of our viewpoints are just as subjective as each other's so when you ask why I came up with the theory, I can also ask why you're asking. I'm telling you the sky is blue and you're trying to figure out if there's a psychological reason behind my observation of the color of the sky...You trying to figure out whether there's a reason behind my observation that the review shouldn't be trusted means that you also have a subjective reason for why I shouldn't be trusted. Point is you don't counter a subjective statement with a subjective one. You'll be running circles.

At the end of the day, you're not going to convince me that a reviewer that excludes many vital details about a game and just drools all over the page like an idiot did a good review. His review is stupid. It's fucking stupid. There's no way around it. He ignores so many things just to make the game look good. He looks like he took a paycheck for it. Easy as that. It's bullshit. And any response you can give to this is just as subjective as you think this post is thus we'd be running circles.

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#391 lostrib
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@John_Matherson said:

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

@John_Matherson said:

I already said I was done running circles with you.

Translation: "I did not have a reasonable retort to your reasonable commentary, and thus I am now admitting defeat."

?

Translation I literally just ran loops with you with the past responses since you're going out of your way to make excuses for the stupid game and the idiot reviewer. I've addressed everything you've mentioned and you keep using subjective statement to dismiss facts. You're literally working your butt off to dismiss facts. You keep trying to understand my perspective when even when I list characters and factual details of both games they are facts and fact doesn't require perspective. It;s a fact that you can't breathe in space regardless of whether I say it or whether you say it...It's a fact when I say Forza has 200 cars and 14 tracks...because it has 200 cars and 14 tracks. to All my mentioned arguments are created based on factual properties of both games. I don't care why the reviewer ignored things that are a major aspect of the games...I just care that he did. I don't want you to make excuses for him. If I tell you it's going to rain based on my observation of the clouds and the sudden change from a previously sunny weather, you should address all the supporting components of my prediction like you should address the weather change and the sudden dark clouds. What you shouldn't do is try to bypass the prediction by trying to establish that there's some sort of personal motive behind me saying it's going to rain or that I personally want it to rain. Again, address what I'm saying because all your reasons for why I'm saying them are all going to be subjective guesses. It's running circles because my OP is challenging why the review appears shady and inconsistent and you're challenging why I think they appear shady and inconsistent...Both of our viewpoints are just as subjective as each other's so when you ask why I came up with the theory, I can also ask why you're asking. I'm telling you the sky is blue and you're trying to figure out if there's a psychological reason behind my observation of the color of the sky...You trying to figure out whether there's a reason behind my observation that the review shouldn't be trusted means that you also have a subjective reason for why I shouldn't be trusted. Point is you don't counter a subjective statement with a subjective one. You'll be running circles.

At the end of the day, you're not going to convince me that a reviewer that excludes many vital details about a game and just drools all over the page like an idiot did a good review. His review is stupid. It's fucking stupid. There's no way around it. He ignores so many things just to make the game look good. He looks like he took a paycheck for it. Easy as that. It's bullshit. And any response you can give to this is just as subjective as you think this post is thus we'd be running circles.

tl;dr

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#392  Edited By lostrib
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@John_Matherson said:

@Opus_Rea-333 said:

lostrib how to tips: (cortesy of LostRib)

Lesson 1: Turn John Matherson into a crazy clueless meltdown mode Sony shill.

Secret: Use common sense.

LMAO you guys sck lostrib's too much. No wonder the idiot actually thinks he's effective. LMAOO!

It definitely looks like I'm effective. You're all welcome

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#393  Edited By Snugenz
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@John_Matherson said:

@Opus_Rea-333 said:

lostrib how to tips: (cortesy of LostRib)

Lesson 1: Turn John Matherson into a crazy clueless meltdown mode Sony shill.

Secret: Use common sense.

LMAO you guys sck lostrib's too much. No wonder the idiot actually thinks he's effective. LMAOO!

Whenever i see "LMAO" particularly in caps what i actually imagine is going through the writers mind is this...

Needs some kleenex for that laughter?, mansize too big?

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@Stevo_the_gamer said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

It has everything to do with it. You can't play Forza 5 without a x1 and you can race online without live. Without the console and gold Forza 5 is just a disc in a box. If you want the full quality racing experience you need a wheel and your old 360 wheel won't work with the xbox one. So your basically saying the "quality" of Forza 5 is such that it offsets the cost over a similar experience on the ps3 with GT6.

I call bullshit on that. If you have a valid counterpoint then make it. Did your x1... while you were racing ??

First things first, keep things classy. Knock it off with that inappropriate crap at the end. Secondly, I've never seen anyone add the cost of a console and online adjacent to discussing two racing game reviews. You wouldn't do it in comparison to Halo 4 and Killzone: Shadow Fall, and you wouldn't do it in comparison to Super Mario 3D World and Puppeteer. Thirdly, the racing wheel "experience" is a niche offering for enthusiast racer gamers. Think of it like the enthusiast PC gamers that spend two or more grand on their PCs where the majority of us do not go that grand on our budgets.

Value is a valid discussion to be had where reasonable minds can discuss, but it is not reasonable to throw onto that the cost of XBL, console, and optional third-party hardware. Shall we also include the budget of a television as well? Because that sorely affects how you view the game, and of course, you want the best viewing possible...

I don't know how or why value was not part of the review. You mentioned TV's so lets talk about that for a second. Imagine there is a 50 inch 1080p 240hz plasma 3D smart hdtv with all the features and 4 hdmi ports with 2 usb 3.0 ports and a hd skype cam for 800 bucks. On the other side is a 3200 buck 4k 60HZ LCD hdtv with 2 HDMI ports and no upconversion with basic picture/sound controls and no features and a crappy remote.

If I gave the 4k a 9 and the 1080p a 7 based on a better cabinet would that be a good review??

Yet this is similar to what happened on this very site. One game with a nice presentation on a next gen console got a 9 even thought it had taken major steps BACKWARD from the previous game. To get the nice next gen graphics no mention was made of the cost or even what wheels worked and how they worked. To make matters worse the review clearly states that there was extremely limited time and cars for the multiplayer. The review clearly states the track count is 1/2 of Forza 4 and is repetitive. HUH come again the idiot barely played the game and already the game was repetitive..The review glows about "moments" of next gen glorious graphics and sound.

WTF how did this moron Shaun McIdiot give a 9 to this game and better yet how did the sites editor in chief let that score stand??

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@no-scope-AK47 said:

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

It has everything to do with it. You can't play Forza 5 without a x1 and you can race online without live. Without the console and gold Forza 5 is just a disc in a box. If you want the full quality racing experience you need a wheel and your old 360 wheel won't work with the xbox one. So your basically saying the "quality" of Forza 5 is such that it offsets the cost over a similar experience on the ps3 with GT6.

I call bullshit on that. If you have a valid counterpoint then make it. Did your x1... while you were racing ??

First things first, keep things classy. Knock it off with that inappropriate crap at the end. Secondly, I've never seen anyone add the cost of a console and online adjacent to discussing two racing game reviews. You wouldn't do it in comparison to Halo 4 and Killzone: Shadow Fall, and you wouldn't do it in comparison to Super Mario 3D World and Puppeteer. Thirdly, the racing wheel "experience" is a niche offering for enthusiast racer gamers. Think of it like the enthusiast PC gamers that spend two or more grand on their PCs where the majority of us do not go that grand on our budgets.

Value is a valid discussion to be had where reasonable minds can discuss, but it is not reasonable to throw onto that the cost of XBL, console, and optional third-party hardware. Shall we also include the budget of a television as well? Because that sorely affects how you view the game, and of course, you want the best viewing possible...

I don't know how or why value was not part of the review. You mentioned TV's so lets talk about that for a second. Imagine there is a 50 inch 1080p 240hz plasma 3D smart hdtv with all the features and 4 hdmi ports with 2 usb 3.0 ports and a hd skype cam for 800 bucks. On the other side is a 3200 buck 4k 60HZ LCD hdtv with 2 HDMI ports and no upconversion with basic picture/sound controls and no features and a crappy remote.

If I gave the 4k a 9 and the 1080p a 7 based on a better cabinet would that be a good review??

Yet this is similar to what happened on this very site. One game with a nice presentation on a next gen console got a 9 even thought it had taken major steps BACKWARD from the previous game. To get the nice next gen graphics no mention was made of the cost or even what wheels worked and how they worked. To make matters worse the review clearly states that there was extremely limited time and cars for the multiplayer. The review clearly states the track count is 1/2 of Forza 4 and is repetitive. HUH come again the idiot barely played the game and already the game was repetitive..The review glows about "moments" of next gen glorious graphics and sound.

WTF how did this moron Shaun McIdiot give a 9 to this game and better yet how did the sites editor in chief let that score stand??

So butthurt over a review, sad.

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@no-scope-AK47 said:

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

It has everything to do with it. You can't play Forza 5 without a x1 and you can race online without live. Without the console and gold Forza 5 is just a disc in a box. If you want the full quality racing experience you need a wheel and your old 360 wheel won't work with the xbox one. So your basically saying the "quality" of Forza 5 is such that it offsets the cost over a similar experience on the ps3 with GT6.

I call bullshit on that. If you have a valid counterpoint then make it. Did your x1... while you were racing ??

First things first, keep things classy. Knock it off with that inappropriate crap at the end. Secondly, I've never seen anyone add the cost of a console and online adjacent to discussing two racing game reviews. You wouldn't do it in comparison to Halo 4 and Killzone: Shadow Fall, and you wouldn't do it in comparison to Super Mario 3D World and Puppeteer. Thirdly, the racing wheel "experience" is a niche offering for enthusiast racer gamers. Think of it like the enthusiast PC gamers that spend two or more grand on their PCs where the majority of us do not go that grand on our budgets.

Value is a valid discussion to be had where reasonable minds can discuss, but it is not reasonable to throw onto that the cost of XBL, console, and optional third-party hardware. Shall we also include the budget of a television as well? Because that sorely affects how you view the game, and of course, you want the best viewing possible...

I don't know how or why value was not part of the review. You mentioned TV's so lets talk about that for a second. Imagine there is a 50 inch 1080p 240hz plasma 3D smart hdtv with all the features and 4 hdmi ports with 2 usb 3.0 ports and a hd skype cam for 800 bucks. On the other side is a 3200 buck 4k 60HZ LCD hdtv with 2 HDMI ports and no upconversion with basic picture/sound controls and no features and a crappy remote.

If I gave the 4k a 9 and the 1080p a 7 based on a better cabinet would that be a good review??

Yet this is similar to what happened on this very site. One game with a nice presentation on a next gen console got a 9 even thought it had taken major steps BACKWARD from the previous game. To get the nice next gen graphics no mention was made of the cost or even what wheels worked and how they worked. To make matters worse the review clearly states that there was extremely limited time and cars for the multiplayer. The review clearly states the track count is 1/2 of Forza 4 and is repetitive. HUH come again the idiot barely played the game and already the game was repetitive..The review glows about "moments" of next gen glorious graphics and sound.

WTF how did this moron Shaun McIdiot give a 9 to this game and better yet how did the sites editor in chief let that score stand??

when you get that much cash,

it will stand on its own

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#397  Edited By no-scope-AK47
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@killatwill15 said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

It has everything to do with it. You can't play Forza 5 without a x1 and you can race online without live. Without the console and gold Forza 5 is just a disc in a box. If you want the full quality racing experience you need a wheel and your old 360 wheel won't work with the xbox one. So your basically saying the "quality" of Forza 5 is such that it offsets the cost over a similar experience on the ps3 with GT6.

I call bullshit on that. If you have a valid counterpoint then make it. Did your x1... while you were racing ??

First things first, keep things classy. Knock it off with that inappropriate crap at the end. Secondly, I've never seen anyone add the cost of a console and online adjacent to discussing two racing game reviews. You wouldn't do it in comparison to Halo 4 and Killzone: Shadow Fall, and you wouldn't do it in comparison to Super Mario 3D World and Puppeteer. Thirdly, the racing wheel "experience" is a niche offering for enthusiast racer gamers. Think of it like the enthusiast PC gamers that spend two or more grand on their PCs where the majority of us do not go that grand on our budgets.

Value is a valid discussion to be had where reasonable minds can discuss, but it is not reasonable to throw onto that the cost of XBL, console, and optional third-party hardware. Shall we also include the budget of a television as well? Because that sorely affects how you view the game, and of course, you want the best viewing possible...

I don't know how or why value was not part of the review. You mentioned TV's so lets talk about that for a second. Imagine there is a 50 inch 1080p 240hz plasma 3D smart hdtv with all the features and 4 hdmi ports with 2 usb 3.0 ports and a hd skype cam for 800 bucks. On the other side is a 3200 buck 4k 60HZ LCD hdtv with 2 HDMI ports and no upconversion with basic picture/sound controls and no features and a crappy remote.

If I gave the 4k a 9 and the 1080p a 7 based on a better cabinet would that be a good review??

Yet this is similar to what happened on this very site. One game with a nice presentation on a next gen console got a 9 even thought it had taken major steps BACKWARD from the previous game. To get the nice next gen graphics no mention was made of the cost or even what wheels worked and how they worked. To make matters worse the review clearly states that there was extremely limited time and cars for the multiplayer. The review clearly states the track count is 1/2 of Forza 4 and is repetitive. HUH come again the idiot barely played the game and already the game was repetitive..The review glows about "moments" of next gen glorious graphics and sound.

WTF how did this moron Shaun McIdiot give a 9 to this game and better yet how did the sites editor in chief let that score stand??

when you get that much cash,

it will stand on its own

Makes you wonder don't it. Either this review by a moron slipped by the editor or there is more going on here. The question is why has this happened ??

One can't help but notice the AD's that are many by Microsoft and the money it brings to this site. What impact would a honest review have on said AD's??

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I don't know how or why value was not part of the review. You mentioned TV's so lets talk about that for a second. Imagine there is a 50 inch 1080p 240hz plasma 3D smart hdtv with all the features and 4 hdmi ports with 2 usb 3.0 ports and a hd skype cam for 800 bucks. On the other side is a 3200 buck 4k 60HZ LCD hdtv with 2 HDMI ports and no upconversion with basic picture/sound controls and no features and a crappy remote.

If I gave the 4k a 9 and the 1080p a 7 based on a better cabinet would that be a good review??

Yet this is similar to what happened on this very site. One game with a nice presentation on a next gen console got a 9 even thought it had taken major steps BACKWARD from the previous game. To get the nice next gen graphics no mention was made of the cost or even what wheels worked and how they worked. To make matters worse the review clearly states that there was extremely limited time and cars for the multiplayer. The review clearly states the track count is 1/2 of Forza 4 and is repetitive. HUH come again the idiot barely played the game and already the game was repetitive..The review glows about "moments" of next gen glorious graphics and sound.

WTF how did this moron Shaun McIdiot give a 9 to this game and better yet how did the sites editor in chief let that score stand??

I don't see the similarity in comparing hardware to software and assume the review would follow a similar scale. The Gamespot review on Forza Motorsport 5 did make mention of the lack of tracks and cars in comparison to previous Forza games, but the overall package of the game itself didn't necessarily suffer nor did it inherently affect the "value" there-in because of the high-qualityness of the overall package. For example, was DiRT 3's review incompetent for not making mention of "value" or detracting the game from its inherent lack of cars and tracks in comparison to other racers?

Wait... DiRT 3 was AAA and Forza Motorsport 4 was only AA...But wait again! DiRT 3 beat out Forza Motorsport 4 in Gamespot's 2011 Best Driving game... how is that possible when Forza has 8x the content? I mean, I understand you guys like to gravitate and grasp onto the idea of "content dictates all" but it's time to open the eyes and understand there are many facets to this equation. While I imagine the bitterness has to do with loyalties to inanimate objects, there is no need to take things personally. Reviews are "subjective" and are reflective of one collection of opinions--there are many others out there, just because one review does not coincide with your "belief" does not mean it's out to undermine your favorite piece of plastic.

One can't help but notice the AD's that are many by Microsoft and the money it brings to this site. What impact would a honest review have on said AD's??

Ryse ads were all over the place at the time of release, yet Gamespot reviewed such with a 4. It's time to wake up and stop pandering to fanboy tinfoil hat mantra.

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@no-scope-AK47 said:

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

It has everything to do with it. You can't play Forza 5 without a x1 and you can race online without live. Without the console and gold Forza 5 is just a disc in a box. If you want the full quality racing experience you need a wheel and your old 360 wheel won't work with the xbox one. So your basically saying the "quality" of Forza 5 is such that it offsets the cost over a similar experience on the ps3 with GT6.

I call bullshit on that. If you have a valid counterpoint then make it. Did your x1... while you were racing ??

First things first, keep things classy. Knock it off with that inappropriate crap at the end. Secondly, I've never seen anyone add the cost of a console and online adjacent to discussing two racing game reviews. You wouldn't do it in comparison to Halo 4 and Killzone: Shadow Fall, and you wouldn't do it in comparison to Super Mario 3D World and Puppeteer. Thirdly, the racing wheel "experience" is a niche offering for enthusiast racer gamers. Think of it like the enthusiast PC gamers that spend two or more grand on their PCs where the majority of us do not go that grand on our budgets.

Value is a valid discussion to be had where reasonable minds can discuss, but it is not reasonable to throw onto that the cost of XBL, console, and optional third-party hardware. Shall we also include the budget of a television as well? Because that sorely affects how you view the game, and of course, you want the best viewing possible...

I don't know how or why value was not part of the review. You mentioned TV's so lets talk about that for a second. Imagine there is a 50 inch 1080p 240hz plasma 3D smart hdtv with all the features and 4 hdmi ports with 2 usb 3.0 ports and a hd skype cam for 800 bucks. On the other side is a 3200 buck 4k 60HZ LCD hdtv with 2 HDMI ports and no upconversion with basic picture/sound controls and no features and a crappy remote.

If I gave the 4k a 9 and the 1080p a 7 based on a better cabinet would that be a good review??

Yet this is similar to what happened on this very site. One game with a nice presentation on a next gen console got a 9 even thought it had taken major steps BACKWARD from the previous game. To get the nice next gen graphics no mention was made of the cost or even what wheels worked and how they worked. To make matters worse the review clearly states that there was extremely limited time and cars for the multiplayer. The review clearly states the track count is 1/2 of Forza 4 and is repetitive. HUH come again the idiot barely played the game and already the game was repetitive..The review glows about "moments" of next gen glorious graphics and sound.

WTF how did this moron Shaun McIdiot give a 9 to this game and better yet how did the sites editor in chief let that score stand??

If Games like Heavenly Sword can lose major points for not being long enough then value definitely matters and should be part of a review. The stupid mistake the review made was that attemped to make it seem as if Forza's features and gameplay make up for the major lack of FEATURES AND CONTENT AND VARIETY AND EVENTS AND WEATHER SYSTEM AND DAY/NIGHT AND REPLAY VALUE...But...The reasons he left behind for what makes the game worth it despite the lack of all these features and characteristics are the graphics (Stupid because it's supposed to have good graphics) and the physics (highly subjective and this alone doesn't make up for the lack of all those things.) The stupid game isn't a nine and it's a shady review. Period.

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@John_Matherson said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

It has everything to do with it. You can't play Forza 5 without a x1 and you can race online without live. Without the console and gold Forza 5 is just a disc in a box. If you want the full quality racing experience you need a wheel and your old 360 wheel won't work with the xbox one. So your basically saying the "quality" of Forza 5 is such that it offsets the cost over a similar experience on the ps3 with GT6.

I call bullshit on that. If you have a valid counterpoint then make it. Did your x1... while you were racing ??

First things first, keep things classy. Knock it off with that inappropriate crap at the end. Secondly, I've never seen anyone add the cost of a console and online adjacent to discussing two racing game reviews. You wouldn't do it in comparison to Halo 4 and Killzone: Shadow Fall, and you wouldn't do it in comparison to Super Mario 3D World and Puppeteer. Thirdly, the racing wheel "experience" is a niche offering for enthusiast racer gamers. Think of it like the enthusiast PC gamers that spend two or more grand on their PCs where the majority of us do not go that grand on our budgets.

Value is a valid discussion to be had where reasonable minds can discuss, but it is not reasonable to throw onto that the cost of XBL, console, and optional third-party hardware. Shall we also include the budget of a television as well? Because that sorely affects how you view the game, and of course, you want the best viewing possible...

I don't know how or why value was not part of the review. You mentioned TV's so lets talk about that for a second. Imagine there is a 50 inch 1080p 240hz plasma 3D smart hdtv with all the features and 4 hdmi ports with 2 usb 3.0 ports and a hd skype cam for 800 bucks. On the other side is a 3200 buck 4k 60HZ LCD hdtv with 2 HDMI ports and no upconversion with basic picture/sound controls and no features and a crappy remote.

If I gave the 4k a 9 and the 1080p a 7 based on a better cabinet would that be a good review??

Yet this is similar to what happened on this very site. One game with a nice presentation on a next gen console got a 9 even thought it had taken major steps BACKWARD from the previous game. To get the nice next gen graphics no mention was made of the cost or even what wheels worked and how they worked. To make matters worse the review clearly states that there was extremely limited time and cars for the multiplayer. The review clearly states the track count is 1/2 of Forza 4 and is repetitive. HUH come again the idiot barely played the game and already the game was repetitive..The review glows about "moments" of next gen glorious graphics and sound.

WTF how did this moron Shaun McIdiot give a 9 to this game and better yet how did the sites editor in chief let that score stand??

If Games like Heavenly Sword can lose major points for not being long enough then value definitely matters and should be part of a review. The stupid mistake the review made was that attemped to make it seem as if Forza's features and gameplay make up for the major lack of FEATURES AND CONTENT AND VARIETY AND EVENTS AND WEATHER SYSTEM AND DAY/NIGHT AND REPLAY VALUE...But...The reasons he left behind for what makes the game worth it despite the lack of all these features and characteristics are the graphics (Stupid because it's supposed to have good graphics) and the physics (highly subjective and this alone doesn't make up for the lack of all those things.) The stupid game isn't a nine and it's a shady review. Period.

Dude, let it go. We get it, you're a fanboy and you're upset that Forza 5 beat GT6. Stop throwing a hissy fit about it