Never much enjoyed these games. Much more into Burnout. Would love a new Burnout but for now I’m happy with the Paradise remaster.
Never much enjoyed these games. Much more into Burnout. Would love a new Burnout but for now I’m happy with the Paradise remaster.
lol gotta love the "user base" narrative lemmings and even some PC guys pull out ONLY when a PS4 EXCLUSIVE sells in the millions.
It's funny because we know ALL Xbox games are now shared between the user base of xbox one (30 mil) and PC (200 mil) since 2015 but we NEVER see either group claim games on PC or xbox are flops for not selling based on the "user base" metrics.
Like, what is the formula we're supposed to actually be using here lems?
This argument is literally ONLY ever used when PS4 is the topic of the conversation. Quantum Break was PC&xbox day 1...it Released April 5 2016, it literally had the entire month and 3 years of hype behind it...
https://venturebeat.com/2016/05/12/april-2016-npd-dark-souls-iii-ratchet-clank-lead-as-gaming-industry-drops-15/
So...what happened to "da user base" narrative lems/herms? Why didn't this sell 100million?
Ratchet N Clank and MLB The Show aren't even a major Sony releases and Quantum Break had been hyped since the beginning of the generation all the way back to 2013.
Then QB fell off the map after that low charting it's first month, so much for that "user base" argument lems.
Exactly. Like Xbox owners even buy exclusives. MS has to use Game Pass to pump up numbers now. "WE'RE ANNOUNCING TWO MILLION PLAYERS!" Yeah, of course a lot of people are going to play your new first party game for $10 bucks, or on a trial.
I think it's because you guys make such a big deal about how many PS4 have been sold and how important exclusives are. They you see that a premium title like GT only manages to convert 5 million sales out of 70 million + users. It doesn't look that great.
Yup that's what most of us (who are sane) are trying to say.
But most Cows have been preaching and boasting about how "exclusives mattarz!!!!" this entire generation and how they are the end all be all and how it pushes PS4 sales.
Yet all along Rational people (the ones not riding on colorful Sony Dildos) are saying: Exclusives don't matter because of the overwhelming amount of casual gamers don't care about them, especially on the PS4, where the platform is driven overwhelmingly by casuals.....the ones who don't exactly follow heavily on gaming trends, the ones that don't care about Bloodborne or Uncharted 4. But they do care about Madden, NHL18, COD, etc. That's why PS4 sales have been steadily growing each year. Those 3 million sold Sony exclusives are bought by......guess who?......the minority Core Gamers who actually follow gaming trends and who know better.
PS consoles have always thrived on casuals and their taste in casual popular games, always have, always will be.
Same can be applied with Casual XBOX1 users. Gears 4, Forza 7, Halos, even QB are NOT exactly at the top of their playlist.
That completely mutes what most Cows have been saying.
I'm referring to the quality of the games. Not sales.
But I forgot that to Quack, a flop only means a game didn't sell well. So if a game gets 100% on Metacritic but doesn't sell a bazillion copies, it's a flop.
GT Sport has better physics and driving than Flopza 7 not mention an actual pit crew lol.
Nope, you don't even win the quality argument either.
Lmao... yeah, all the review scores are wrong. Forget to take your pills this morning? Lol.
They both scored the same on this website, cry harder lem.
GT Sport is the better sim no matter how much you get butthurt over it.
GT SPort is the better Sim if you're trying to Duplicate Bumper Car Physics but if you're trying to duplicate actual Cars than Forza is better.
? Is that why Flopza wasn't even nominated in the Best Hnadling category and GT Sport outright won that category?
The physics in Flopza is ass and the AI rams you because they are stupid as hell. Flopza 7 is the true bumper car simulator now.
@VERTIGO47: Ok, lets say they don't matter?
Why aren't sales of the PS4 and Bone the same?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ-To7WJyWs
@VERTIGO47: Ok, lets say they don't matter?
Why aren't sales of the PS4 and Bone the same?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ-To7WJyWs
Ok, but what about the casual? Both PS4 and Bone are at 100 million, yet the last COD sold only 30 million? What are the rest playing?
I'm not counting PC, cause that puts the gaming world at some billions.
These are low numbers. This game was heavily discounted like a month in and it can't even get higher sales than Mario Kart on the Switch.
Forza 7 took best Racing game at the game awards. Take the L Cows.
Like that counts for shit in the real world. It can take all the awards, no one is still buying it.
It didn't even chart the month it came out which means even lems are starting to get tired of it.
Only one racing game is recognized in the car indusrty as a juggernaut and that's GT. People playing GT on a high level actually become professional race car drivers in real life and win championships.
GT is the only racing game out there partnered with FIA and gives GT players the opportunity to acquire FIA licenses while playing the game. Meanwhile in Flopza you get jackshit and eggs for being good at it.
And probably most of them from Europe where GT still reigns king despite it being feature-lite compared to Forza.
Loving it so far, the only problem I have is the character of the opponent, which mirrors real life, it's a hell of a multiplayer game. I just wish the punishments were just. It's a shame I can be attacked for little if no punishments.
Contact MUST be an intelligently decided ruling, attacker or receiver must be held accountable. That and only that is my one criticism.
Forza 7 took best Racing game at the game awards. Take the L Cows.
Like that counts for shit in the real world. It can take all the awards, no one is still buying it.
It didn't even chart the month it came out which means even lems are starting to get tired of it.
Only one racing game is recognized in the car indusrty as a juggernaut and that's GT. People playing GT on a high level actually become professional race car drivers in real life and win championships.
GT is the only racing game out there partnered with FIA and gives GT players the opportunity to acquire FIA licenses while playing the game. Meanwhile in Flopza you get jackshit and eggs for being good at it.
"In the real world" ... so what are the supposed rules now? best simulator? or best game?
Ah right, whatever the opposite of the truth is with Cows... suddently best simualtor is more imporant than being the best game.
I should of known, since cows like movies more than gameplay.
Forza 7 took best Racing game at the game awards. Take the L Cows.
Like that counts for shit in the real world. It can take all the awards, no one is still buying it.
It didn't even chart the month it came out which means even lems are starting to get tired of it.
Only one racing game is recognized in the car indusrty as a juggernaut and that's GT. People playing GT on a high level actually become professional race car drivers in real life and win championships.
GT is the only racing game out there partnered with FIA and gives GT players the opportunity to acquire FIA licenses while playing the game. Meanwhile in Flopza you get jackshit and eggs for being good at it.
"In the real world" ... so what are the supposed rules now? best simulator? or best game?
Ah right, whatever the opposite of the truth is with Cows... suddently best simualtor is more imporant than being the best game.
I should of known, since cows like movies more than gameplay.
It's a better sim than Flopza 7 and the fans have spoken, and by the "real world" I mean the world outside SW which you've probably lost touch with NyaDC.
There's more to life than damage controlling for MS on message boards.
Forza 7 took best Racing game at the game awards. Take the L Cows.
Like that counts for shit in the real world. It can take all the awards, no one is still buying it.
It didn't even chart the month it came out which means even lems are starting to get tired of it.
Only one racing game is recognized in the car indusrty as a juggernaut and that's GT. People playing GT on a high level actually become professional race car drivers in real life and win championships.
GT is the only racing game out there partnered with FIA and gives GT players the opportunity to acquire FIA licenses while playing the game. Meanwhile in Flopza you get jackshit and eggs for being good at it.
"In the real world" ... so what are the supposed rules now? best simulator? or best game?
Ah right, whatever the opposite of the truth is with Cows... suddently best simualtor is more imporant than being the best game.
I should of known, since cows like movies more than gameplay.
It's a better sim than Flopza 7 and the fans have spoken, and by the "real world" I mean the world outside SW which you've probably lost touch with NyaDC.
There's more to life than damage controlling for MS on message boards.
The critics have spoken and the better GAME is Forza apperently, I mean I can quantify that, you can't quantify your claim.
Not NyaDC, I'm Mbirdy88 come now Quacknight I know you want me to be that other guy that doesn't own a PS4 Pro, but I simply can't fill that narrative for you to win.
Couldn't care less about MS, just like putting cows in thier place which is 2nd to PC (and debatable Switch depending on which way you swing... do you like movies or gameplay?).
Says I'm out of touch, is spinning a wonderful tale seperate from reality to pat himself on the back.
Priceless.
Forza 7 took best Racing game at the game awards. Take the L Cows.
Like that counts for shit in the real world. It can take all the awards, no one is still buying it.
It didn't even chart the month it came out which means even lems are starting to get tired of it.
Only one racing game is recognized in the car indusrty as a juggernaut and that's GT. People playing GT on a high level actually become professional race car drivers in real life and win championships.
GT is the only racing game out there partnered with FIA and gives GT players the opportunity to acquire FIA licenses while playing the game. Meanwhile in Flopza you get jackshit and eggs for being good at it.
"In the real world" ... so what are the supposed rules now? best simulator? or best game?
Ah right, whatever the opposite of the truth is with Cows... suddently best simualtor is more imporant than being the best game.
I should of known, since cows like movies more than gameplay.
It's a better sim than Flopza 7 and the fans have spoken, and by the "real world" I mean the world outside SW which you've probably lost touch with NyaDC.
There's more to life than damage controlling for MS on message boards.
The critics have spoken and the better GAME is Forza apperently, I mean I can quantify that, you can't quantify your claim.
Not NyaDC, I'm Mbirdy88 come now Quacknight I know you want me to be that other guy that doesn't own a PS4 Pro, but I simply can't fill that narrative for you to win.
Couldn't care less about MS, just like putting cows in thier place which is 2nd to PC (and debatable Switch depending on which way you swing... do you like movies or gameplay?).
Says I'm out of touch, is spinning a wonderful tale seperate from reality to pat himself on the back.
Priceless.
Well the gamers have spoken and picked GT Sport and last time I checked gamers > useless game critics and their opinions.
Despite all the rave reviews Flopza got it couldn't even break a million and you can't say it's because it's a new unknown franchise, gamers just didn't give a shit about it.
"In the real world" ... so what are the supposed rules now? best simulator? or best game?
Ah right, whatever the opposite of the truth is with Cows... suddently best simualtor is more imporant than being the best game.
I should of known, since cows like movies more than gameplay.
It's a better sim than Flopza 7 and the fans have spoken, and by the "real world" I mean the world outside SW which you've probably lost touch with NyaDC.
There's more to life than damage controlling for MS on message boards.
The critics have spoken and the better GAME is Forza apperently, I mean I can quantify that, you can't quantify your claim.
Not NyaDC, I'm Mbirdy88 come now Quacknight I know you want me to be that other guy that doesn't own a PS4 Pro, but I simply can't fill that narrative for you to win.
Couldn't care less about MS, just like putting cows in thier place which is 2nd to PC (and debatable Switch depending on which way you swing... do you like movies or gameplay?).
Says I'm out of touch, is spinning a wonderful tale seperate from reality to pat himself on the back.
Priceless.
Well the gamers have spoken and picked GT Sport and last time I checked gamers > useless game critics and their opinions.
Despite all the rave reviews Flopza got it couldn't even break a million and you can't say it's because it's a new unknown franchise, gamers just didn't give a shit about it.
Ah the gamers.
Will Sony make an Exclusive that the Gamers choose more than Wii Fit or Wii Sports Resort?
Why bother with God of War when Tetris is the best selling game of all time.
The gamers have spoken!
Mario Kart is by far the best racer on the planet.
"In the real world" ... so what are the supposed rules now? best simulator? or best game?
Ah right, whatever the opposite of the truth is with Cows... suddently best simualtor is more imporant than being the best game.
I should of known, since cows like movies more than gameplay.
It's a better sim than Flopza 7 and the fans have spoken, and by the "real world" I mean the world outside SW which you've probably lost touch with NyaDC.
There's more to life than damage controlling for MS on message boards.
The critics have spoken and the better GAME is Forza apperently, I mean I can quantify that, you can't quantify your claim.
Not NyaDC, I'm Mbirdy88 come now Quacknight I know you want me to be that other guy that doesn't own a PS4 Pro, but I simply can't fill that narrative for you to win.
Couldn't care less about MS, just like putting cows in thier place which is 2nd to PC (and debatable Switch depending on which way you swing... do you like movies or gameplay?).
Says I'm out of touch, is spinning a wonderful tale seperate from reality to pat himself on the back.
Priceless.
Well the gamers have spoken and picked GT Sport and last time I checked gamers > useless game critics and their opinions.
Despite all the rave reviews Flopza got it couldn't even break a million and you can't say it's because it's a new unknown franchise, gamers just didn't give a shit about it.
Ah the gamers.
Will Sony make an Exclusive that the Gamers choose more than Wii Fit or Wii Sports Resort?
Why bother with God of War when Tetris is the best selling game of all time.
The gamers have spoken!
Mario Kart is by far the best racer on the planet.
It very well could be but in the realm of console sim racers GT Sport is King and Flopza is a jester. The gamers have spoken.
That's not bad at all. Let's not forget this is a sims racing game and sims racing isn't for everyone, but nevertheless, this chart shows it's doing well. Best on PS4 console by a mile.
It's like people want this to fail and be left with MTX, Forza, and Project Cars/Asseto Corsa who can't control anything on a controller, but for GT Sport, best car handling with a controller by far. Excellent gameplay. Amazing lightning. Outstanding multiplayer. GT Sport needs to do well if we're getting a fully feature 200 tracks 1000 cars GT7 in the next five years by the time whenever PS5 arrives.
@kali-b1rd: Lol, yeah ok.
You honestly don't know who that is? This has been said many times already and we all know who that is and if you haven't been following this, then I feel sorry for you.
I'm still being called NyaDC by some of these crazy people.
It's like avoiding the truth is second nature to them
@kali-b1rd: Lol, yeah ok.
You honestly don't know who that is? This has been said many times already and we all know who that is and if you haven't been following this, then I feel sorry for you.
I'm still being called NyaDC by some of these crazy people.
It's like avoiding the truth is second nature to them
Heh, I already know who NyaDC new account is, I'm more surprise everyone here assumes you are and few of us who has been following you already know you are true legit here and who you was before.
@davillain-: Who is it then? Please feel sorry for me because I haven't been following and don't know who's alt/new account it is.
MBirdy88. He ask for his old account to be deleted by the mods so he can make a fresh one, which is legal here btw.
@_Matt_: why? It's 221 cars, 57 tracks, career mode, licence school, ground breaking livery system, a ground breaking online system. Extreme levels of polish and to top it off, incredible physics.
Why is it not worth the sales.
@TorqueHappens08: GT lost its edge a long time ago, but I would be willing to wager it sells a large portion just because of the brand it is. If GT Sport was the same game of a different ip it would have barely passed 1 million sales.
This is coming from someone who used to be a die hard GT fan.
@_Matt_: yeah Gran Turismo is an iconic name like.
Grand Theft Auto
Or Need For Speed.
But i don't think it's lost it's edge, i beileve they just wanted to take a big risk and go a different direction, which they pretty much suceeded in doing.
@TorqueHappens08: sure, and don't get me wrong: new direction is great and I applaud that. But GT5 and GT6 were archaic dinosaurs of racing games.
GT Sport tried to freshen up, the physics are top notch, the online is well thought out, the cars are breathtakingly beautiful. But somehow, somehow - the game still feels sterile and dated. The single player was an afterthought that was very shallow compared to the glory days of GT4, missing so much that kept me hooked to the older games. I love that they still support GT Sport and are always adding more, but it's too late, for me personally. The sales numbers are to me mind boggling - I don't understand how the above game could earn all those sales.
@TorqueHappens08: sure, and don't get me wrong: new direction is great and I applaud that. But GT5 and GT6 were archaic dinosaurs of racing games.
GT Sport tried to freshen up, the physics are top notch, the online is well thought out, the cars are breathtakingly beautiful. But somehow, somehow - the game still feels sterile and dated. The single player was an afterthought that was very shallow compared to the glory days of GT4, missing so much that kept me hooked to the older games. I love that they still support GT Sport and are always adding more, but it's too late, for me personally. The sales numbers are to me mind boggling - I don't understand how the above game could earn all those sales.
It's simple really, people love the polish of what's already there in the game. The driving and physics are top notch for a console sim. It's probably the best handling driving game on consoles, feels great with both a controller and a steering wheel. Sport mode is actually fun to race because there are rules and people don't drive like idiots online. The AI in the game is also top-notch stuff so when you play solo you don't feel like you're getting rammed out of the track by dumbshit AI. When you add the attention to detail in the cars (best out there), track detail, nice graphics, and on top of that a VR mode it's easy to see why people enjoy the game. It might not have as many features as some other racers out there but what it does have is extremely polished.
@GioVela2010: i agree as far as open world racers go before the crew 2.
I own horizon 3 and enjoy it just as much as i enjoy gran turismo and it's my goto open world racer. When i want to chill and relax... eventhough 90% of players hang out at the airfield doing drag in V12 darts or drift in that parking lot in surfers paradise.
Will probably change one the crew 2 comes out.
Horizon 3 is the best racing game this gen
Easily... up there for racing GOAT too.
Forza 7 took best Racing game at the game awards. Take the L Cows.
Like that counts for shit in the real world. It can take all the awards, no one is still buying it.
It didn't even chart the month it came out which means even lems are starting to get tired of it.
Only one racing game is recognized in the car indusrty as a juggernaut and that's GT. People playing GT on a high level actually become professional race car drivers in real life and win championships.
GT is the only racing game out there partnered with FIA and gives GT players the opportunity to acquire FIA licenses while playing the game. Meanwhile in Flopza you get jackshit and eggs for being good at it.
"In the real world" ... so what are the supposed rules now? best simulator? or best game?
Ah right, whatever the opposite of the truth is with Cows... suddently best simualtor is more imporant than being the best game.
I should of known, since cows like movies more than gameplay.
It's a better sim than Flopza 7 and the fans have spoken, and by the "real world" I mean the world outside SW which you've probably lost touch with NyaDC.
There's more to life than damage controlling for MS on message boards.
@kali-b1rd: Lol, yeah ok.
You honestly don't know who that is? This has been said many times already and we all know who that is and if you haven't been following this, then I feel sorry for you.
I'm still being called NyaDC by some of these crazy people.
It's like avoiding the truth is second nature to them
Heh, I already know who NyaDC new account is, I'm more surprise everyone here assumes you are and few of us who has been following you already know you are true legit here and who you was before.
You'd be wrong, I'm glad that even after months I'm still living in your heads rent free.
You guys sound like paranoid schizophrenics and think every new user is me, it's hilarious the toll I took on you.
Hello NyaDC. Another account today, you don't get bored of this do you.
Enjoy getting banned again.
Hello NyaDC. Another account today, you don't get bored of this do you.
Enjoy getting banned again.
I pop in from time to time, I don't even know why they bother to ban me as it doesn't serve any kind of purpose. I'm on another forum anyway so this place just functions as an auxiliary when I want to read some shit posting. I simply wanted to clear the air for these other users, they're not me.
You're biggest mistake is, you already told us who you are now! You can't even simply just NOT say you're own previous name. Next time when you make an new account, don't let us know who you are.
This thread is so fundamentally stupid, cows are calling the Forza series a failure and only count the sales of individual games and REFUSE to understand that sales numbers on Forza is scattered while with GT sales are concentrated.
Yes if you only compare GT Sport with Forza 7 then GT appears to be the winning series, but if we are talking real world data, have the cows considered for a second that there are multiple Forza games on the X1? 5 games in fact? no of course not, because if they compared total sales that would shattered their fragile (but big) ego and this (quite frankly pathetic) thread would get shut down.
Ask yourself, in this gen of consoles, if someone bought Forza 5 what would the likelihood be that they would buy Forza 7? and if you own a PS4 what alternatives to GT Sport would you have? (strictly speaking of exclusives)
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