The list is half good half bad.
The good:
- No mention of super smash bros.
HAZE-Unit
Keeps with your delusions, mirite? ;)
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The list is half good half bad.
The good:
- No mention of super smash bros.
HAZE-Unit
Keeps with your delusions, mirite? ;)
Link
10. Killer Instinct
09. Mortal Kombat
08. Tekken
07. King of Fighters
06. Soul Calibur
05. Capcom Vs.
04. Guilty Gear
03. Samurai Shodown
02. Virtua Fighter
01. Street FighterInteresting list. Thank god that Tekken is at 8, I would of cried if they put it in the top 3. And yay for no Smash Bros.! :D
Aljosa23
Stupid list.. Who they think they are?? Tekken should #1
[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]
The list is half good half bad.
The good:
- No mention of super smash bros.
HAZE-Unit
Keeps with your delusions, mirite? ;)
Im not the one who invented rules to make super smash a fighter :lol: Its good to take of the fanboy goggles once in a while and acknowledge the games that are superior to others. SSB>>>>>>>>Tekken by a long shot, anyone who knows their fighting games would agree with this, and VF is probably the best 3d fighter there is, just because its not a button masher doesnt make it crap.[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]
The list is half good half bad.
The good:
- No mention of super smash bros.
HAZE-Unit
Keeps with your delusions, mirite? ;)
Im not the one who invented rules to make super smash a fighter :lol:Not sure what you mean by that.Don't all competitive fighters have extra rules decided by the community, whether it's the banning of characters/tactics/stages or simply agreeing on a certain format for tournaments? Maybe Smash is just more civilized that way. ;) Or perhaps, there's more choices to consider.
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]
Link
10. Killer Instinct
09. Mortal Kombat
08. Tekken
07. King of Fighters
06. Soul Calibur
05. Capcom Vs.
04. Guilty Gear
03. Samurai Shodown
02. Virtua Fighter
01. Street FighterInteresting list. Thank god that Tekken is at 8, I would of cried if they put it in the top 3. And yay for no Smash Bros.! :D
ice_bey
Stupid list.. Who they think they are?? Tekken should #1
I agree Tekken or Guilty Gear deserved the crown but we can't do anything about it.Im not the one who invented rules to make super smash a fighter :lol: Its good to take of the fanboy goggles once in a while and acknowledge the games that are superior to others. SSB>>>>>>>>Tekken by a long shot, anyone who knows their fighting games would agree with this, and VF is probably the best 3d fighter there is, just because its not a button masher doesnt make it crap. It's not about wither am a fanboy or not, it doesn't take a scientist to know if SSB is a fighter or not, one advice just have fun playing your SSB, what so wrong about that? breaking the limit would cause alot of trouble and wouldn't get SSB fans anywhere, accept SSB as it is.[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]
Keeps with your delusions, mirite? ;)
mexicangordo
[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]
Keeps with your delusions, mirite? ;)
Im not the one who invented rules to make super smash a fighter :lol:Not sure what you mean by that.Don't all competitive fighters have extra rules decided by the community, whether it's the banning of characters/tactics/stages or simply agreeing on a certain format for tournaments? Maybe Smash is just more civilized that way. ;) Or perhaps, there's more choices to consider.
Every competitive multiplayer game has some rules from FPS to racing games, doesn't make them fighters.Its good to take of the fanboy goggles once in a while and acknowledge the games that are superior to others. SSB>>>>>>>>Tekken by a long shot, anyone who knows their fighting games would agree with this, and VF is probably the best 3d fighter there is, just because its not a button masher doesnt make it crap. It's not about wither am a fanboy or not, it doesn't take a scientist to know if SSB is a fighter or not, one advice just have fun playing your SSB, what so wrong about that? breaking the limit would cause alot of trouble and wouldn't get SSB fans anywhere, accept SSB as it is. Huh? I honestly don't understand what your saying....:|[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]
[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"] Im not the one who invented rules to make super smash a fighter :lol:HAZE-Unit
Every competitive multiplayer game has some rules from FPS to racing games, doesn't make them fighters.HAZE-Unit
No, the fact that you have two characters fighting each other in close combat does.
I am sorry but, super smash brothers has nowhere near the depth of any of those fighters(the exception being mortal kombat) on that list.
Samurai Showdown ranks that high because well, if any of you had actually played the game, or knew the impact it had on the history of fighting games, you wouldn't have made such moronic statements.
It's generally accepted(by professional tournament players nonethless, by the creator nonethless) that if anything, super smash brothers, is in a way a hybrid fighting game that falls under the same catagory as games like powerstone. Generally reviewers judge it as a entirely seperate entity and compare it with what the system has to offer. It's funny how much failed logic there is on these forums.
But really, this a game publication...that made a list...which NONE of you wrote. So please, would you kindly? Write a better list that gets published mmmkay?
No you can't? Thought so.
I am sorry but, super smash brothers has nowhere near the depth of any of those fighters(the exception being mortal kombat) on that list.
Samurai Showdown ranks that high because well, if any of you had actually played the game, or knew the impact it had on the history of fighting games, you wouldn't have made such moronic statements.
It's generally accepted(by professional tournament players nonethless, by the creator nonethless) that if anything, super smash brothers, is in a way a hybrid fighting game that falls under the same catagory as games like powerstone. Generally reviewers judge it as a entirely seperate entity and compare it with what the system has to offer. It's funny how much failed logic there is on these forums.
But really, this a game publication...that made a list...which NONE of you wrote. So please, would you kindly? Write a better list that gets published mmmkay?No you can't? Thought so.
Xuix
Since comparisons to Power Stone are being thrown out now, I'll say this: Power Stone is a fighter too. It's just not a competitive fighter because the depth isn't there,unlike withSmash.
If there was more to Power Stone than basic combo, jump attack, and items, than it would benefit from its freer movement and surpass more restricted fighters in depth. Like Smash.
Im not the one who invented rules to make super smash a fighter :lol: Its good to take of the fanboy goggles once in a while and acknowledge the games that are superior to others. SSB>>>>>>>>Tekken by a long shot, anyone who knows their fighting games would agree with this, and VF is probably the best 3d fighter there is, just because its not a button masher doesnt make it crap.[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]
Keeps with your delusions, mirite? ;)
mexicangordo
Now I love Melee, but it is not better than Tekken: Dark Ressurection. Hell, I can't even say DR is better than Smash because they simply ar'nt comprable.
Tekken is a superb, 1 on 1, technical 3D fighter.
Smash is a super fun party brawler.
Let them be in their own genres people.
Edit: And no way in hell is Tekken a button masher.
And if you listen to the beginning of the atrocious list, they are only listing 1 on 1 fighting games.TheGrat1It is interesting that GameTrailers is listing "1 on 1fighting games" while games on the list, such as "Capcom VS." allow players to use backup characters to fight with the main fighters, albeit briefly.
call me a noob but whats Samurai Shodown?
Rza_rectah
SNK fighting game. Was good for its time back in the mid-to-late 90's, but they really haven't done anything to it, although I believe they are coming out with a 3D version in Japan.
It is interesting that GameTrailers is listing "1 on 1fighting games" while games on the list, such as "Capcom VS." allow players to use backup characters to fight with the main fighters, albeit briefly. Yeah I noticed that too. But then I realised they would need to bend the rules slightly so that they could list things like Soul Calibur IV (bleh). But this is Gametrailers. Consistency and integrity have never been their most notable qualities.[QUOTE="TheGrat1"] And if you listen to the beginning of the atrocious list, they are only listing 1 on 1 fighting games.ezikiell
I am sorry but, super smash brothers has nowhere near the depth of any of those fighters(the exception being mortal kombat) on that list.
Samurai Showdown ranks that high because well, if any of you had actually played the game, or knew the impact it had on the history of fighting games, you wouldn't have made such moronic statements.
It's generally accepted(by professional tournament players nonethless, by the creator nonethless) that if anything, super smash brothers, is in a way a hybrid fighting game that falls under the same catagory as games like powerstone. Generally reviewers judge it as a entirely seperate entity and compare it with what the system has to offer. It's funny how much failed logic there is on these forums.
But really, this a game publication...that made a list...which NONE of you wrote. So please, would you kindly? Write a better list that gets published mmmkay?No you can't? Thought so.
Xuix
Oh look another list with SSB at the #3 spot!
http://www.screwattack.com/Top10/FightingGames
Now I love Melee, but it is not better than Tekken: Dark Ressurection. Hell, I can't even say DR is better than Smash because they simply ar'nt comprable.
Tekken is a superb, 1 on 1, technical 3D fighter.
Smash is a super fun party brawler.
TheGrat1
It can be. Or it can be a superb, 1 on 1, technical 2D fighter.
Link or it didn't happen.(lol pun)
Not sure what you mean by that.Don't all competitive fighters have extra rules decided by the community, whether it's the banning of characters/tactics/stages or simply agreeing on a certain format for tournaments? Maybe Smash is just more civilized that way. ;) Or perhaps, there's more choices to consider.
Tsug_Ze_Wind
Short Answer: No.
Longer Answer: No, except Akuma (Gouki) in ST. He was not accessible by normal means and is stupidly broken. One of the big differences between communities like srk/dustloop/etc. and the smash community is that srk/dustloop/etc. do not need to make arbitrary rules for their game(s). Games are played as is. Tourny formats are arranged entirely outside of the game menus in most fighters (ie, it's not like Smash). You can run a teams tourny for other fighters, but that just changes how you handle brackets, not changing anything in game. This discrepancy is part of the reason you won't see Smash at Evo this year.
Go over to shoryuken.com forums and ask them what they think of character and tactic banning.
[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]
call me a noob but whats Samurai Shodown?
SNK fighting game. Was good for its time back in the mid-to-late 90's, but they really haven't done anything to it, although I believe they are coming out with a 3D version in Japan.
OMG this game is mad tight imma see if i can find a copy of it i can see after that vid why its 3rd.[QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="ASK_Story"]Without Street Fighter 2, there'd be none of the other titles.ASK_StoryI find that hard to believe. Um...you do know that Street Fighter 2 started the whole fighting game craze, right? along with the mortal kombat series dont count those games out.
[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]
Not sure what you mean by that.Don't all competitive fighters have extra rules decided by the community, whether it's the banning of characters/tactics/stages or simply agreeing on a certain format for tournaments? Maybe Smash is just more civilized that way. ;) Or perhaps, there's more choices to consider.
juno84
Short Answer: No.
Longer Answer: No, except Akuma (Gouki) in ST. He was not accessible by normal means and is stupidly broken. One of the big differences between communities like srk/dustloop/etc. and the smash community is that srk/dustloop/etc. do not need to make arbitrary rules for their game(s). Games are played as is. Tourny formats are arranged entirely outside of the game menus in most fighters (ie, it's not like Smash). You can run a teams tourny for other fighters, but that just changes how you handle brackets, not changing anything in game. This discrepancy is part of the reason you won't see Smash at Evo this year.
Go over to shoryuken.com forums and ask them what they think of character and tactic banning.
Smash isn't at Evo this year?
I guess that's not that surprising, but if that's true, it's because Evo completely failed atunderstanding how to run aSmash tourneylast year.I was hoping they would learn from their mistakes and try again, but I guess not. :?
The point still stands that all fighter communitieswilladd rules if it's for the good of the game, such as the Akuma example.
[QUOTE="ASK_Story"][QUOTE="TheGrat1"] I find that hard to believe.Rza_rectahUm...you do know that Street Fighter 2 started the whole fighting game craze, right? along with the mortal kombat series dont count those games out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Fighter_II "Street Fighter II is credited for starting the fighting game boom during the 1990s." There'd be no Mortal Kombat without Street Fighter II's success. SFII came out in 1991. MK came out in 1992. Ask any fighting expert. They'll say SFII started it all.
The lack of Super Smash Bros. automatically made that list a failure in my eyes.IronBassYes, but SSB plays entirely different from those games. It's like saying a top ten FPS list fails for not having Metroid Prime, or that a Top Ten RPG game list fails for not having Puzzle Quest.
I agree with the second and third parts of your statement, SSB is definitely different, but I strongly disagree with your first statement. SSB has plenty of depth. Just because it has a shallow movepool doesn't mean it doesn't have any depth. If done well (which it is), it simply means that it's not needlessly complex.I am sorry but, super smash brothers has nowhere near the depth of any of those fighters(the exception being mortal kombat) on that list.
Samurai Showdown ranks that high because well, if any of you had actually played the game, or knew the impact it had on the history of fighting games, you wouldn't have made such moronic statements.
It's generally accepted(by professional tournament players nonethless, by the creator nonethless) that if anything, super smash brothers, is in a way a hybrid fighting game that falls under the same catagory as games like powerstone. Generally reviewers judge it as a entirely seperate entity and compare it with what the system has to offer. It's funny how much failed logic there is on these forums.
But really, this a game publication...that made a list...which NONE of you wrote. So please, would you kindly? Write a better list that gets published mmmkay?No you can't? Thought so.
Xuix
[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="ASK_Story"] Um...you do know that Street Fighter 2 started the whole fighting game craze, right? ASK_Storyalong with the mortal kombat series dont count those games out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Fighter_II "Street Fighter II is credited for starting the fighting game boom during the 1990s." There'd be no Mortal Kombat without Street Fighter II's success. SFII came out in 1991. MK came out in 1992. Ask any fighting expert. They'll say SFII started it all. not really mortal was revolutionary in its own right and both games where started around the same time. And wikpedia = atuomatic fail.
[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]
Fans of other fighting games are scared of Smash. They cheer whenever it doesn't get its deserved recognition as the best fighting game series of all time. :lol:
Face it you Tekken purists, you Soul Calibur fanboys and you Street Fighter elitists. Smash has more depth and content than every game in your precious series. :twisted:
*no flame shield needed*
juno84
A game with out even high/low blocking probably does not have as much depth as you think.
Umm, have you ever heard of shield stabbing? A well placed move can get through a shield, unless of course you tilt your shield to cover one direction more.[QUOTE="ASK_Story"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] along with the mortal kombat series dont count those games out.Rza_rectahhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Fighter_II "Street Fighter II is credited for starting the fighting game boom during the 1990s." There'd be no Mortal Kombat without Street Fighter II's success. SFII came out in 1991. MK came out in 1992. Ask any fighting expert. They'll say SFII started it all. not really mortal was revolutionary in its own right and both games where started around the same time. And wikpedia = atuomatic fail.
Ask any fighting game expert and tournament players...MK revolutionized nothing. It was just the gore and violence that made it popular. But as for fighting mechanics or the way we play fighting games now, it was shallow, sloppy, and not that great. SFII still holds up well even today.
not really mortal was revolutionary in its own right and both games where started around the same time. And wikpedia = atuomatic fail.[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="ASK_Story"] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Fighter_II "Street Fighter II is credited for starting the fighting game boom during the 1990s." There'd be no Mortal Kombat without Street Fighter II's success. SFII came out in 1991. MK came out in 1992. Ask any fighting expert. They'll say SFII started it all.ASK_Story
Ask any fighting game expert and tournament players...MK revolutionized nothing. It was just the gore and violence that made it popular. But as for fighting mechanics or the way we play fighting games now, it was shallow, sloppy, and not that great. SFII still holds up well even today.
i dunno i guess i just appreciate both i grew up with mortal but as i got older i liked the sf series more. I still play sf2hd turbo mk 2, mk 3 on a regular basis.[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Just because you fail at somehting doesn't mean its not good... I dont like it but it should probably be up there. I mean KI is a top ten franchise? Mostly because of one game? no hes right. the original was mediocre, melee was perfection, and brawl was a noobified casualize version of melee.I fail to see what's so good about Super Smash Bros...
The only good one was Melee.
f50p90
Dude. :|Smash isn't at Evo this year?
I guess that's not that surprising, but if that's true, it's because Evo completely failed atunderstanding how to run aSmash tourneylast year.I was hoping they would learn from their mistakes and try again, but I guess not. :?
The point still stands that all fighter communitieswilladd rules if it's for the good of the game, such as the Akuma example.
Tsug_Ze_Wind
Smash Bros. is NOT a fighter. There is no way to spin this. You NEED to change the core gameplay for it to be a casual fighter, and a horrible one at that.
Melee MIGHT be considered a fighter, but Brawl was stupid casual trash that they messed up.
Dude. :|[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]
Smash isn't at Evo this year?
I guess that's not that surprising, but if that's true, it's because Evo completely failed atunderstanding how to run aSmash tourneylast year.I was hoping they would learn from their mistakes and try again, but I guess not. :?
The point still stands that all fighter communitieswilladd rules if it's for the good of the game, such as the Akuma example.
Aljosa23
Smash Bros. is NOT a fighter. There is no way to spin this. You NEED to change the core gameplay for it to be a casual fighter, and a horrible one at that.
Melee MIGHT be considered a fighter, but Brawl was stupid casual trash that they messed up.
um... smash bros. IS a fighter, just not a traditional one... learn the difference
look at every listing you see for smash, it always say 'fighter' or 'fighting' genre
the fact that it was in EVO should already prove this.... only the diluted and misinformed think otherwise
I fail to see what's so good about Super Smash Bros...
The only good one was Melee.
brawl was also pretty good too. Not as good as melee but still awesome.Please Log In to post.
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