Gamespot contradictions. The Luigi Mansion review.

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#101 nintendoman562
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I never understood why outliers are always demonized. Isn't it important to get a wide range of perspectives? If Carolyn found the game frustrating to play, then it's likely that there will be other people who feel the same way. Reviews are supposed to be subjective, and it will be inevitable that for most games there will be people who love it and those who hate it. It's important to probably understand their points of view to get a better composite picture of the quality of the game.

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#102 savagetwinkie
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gta4 needed checkpoints so bad it wasnt even funny, fail a mission, hey lets spend 10 minutes driving across the city just to retry the mission again!

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#103 Videodogg
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So, compared to the new Castlevania game, Luigi's Mansion is even worse? Oh god, time to sell my 3DS again...every game i waited for over a year, very patiently i might add, has flopped in the extreme. Now, what else do i have to look forword to this year for 3DS?

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#104 ArisShadows
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The review is quite laughable, but honestly who cares. I can't wait to play it..
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#105 zassimick  Moderator
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So, compared to the new Castlevania game, Luigi's Mansion is even worse? Oh god, time to sell my 3DS again...every game i waited for over a year, very patiently i might add, has flopped in the extreme. Now, what else do i have to look forword to this year for 3DS?

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#106 blackace
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So a 6.5 for lack of checkpoints and spikes in difficulty? Hmmm..... didnt GTA IV score a perfect 10? yeah.....

deathmasterk
I wouldn't take the Gamespot reviews seriously. Metacritic has an overall score of 85. Gamespot has the lowest score on the list of more respectable gaming journalist.
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#107 SolidSnake35
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Isn't it a port of a 90s game? These Luigi and Mario fellas seem familiar. 6.5 is generous.
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#108 Quaker-w00ts
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Someone's got their jimmies rustled :P
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#109 sammyjenkis898
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So much whining in this thread.
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#110 deactivated-59d151f079814
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The number system needs to go.. No one knows or gives a fvck the difference between a 8.5 and 9.0.. There is no basis between the two which would give it one or the other.. We need a system like a 5 star system.. 1 being poor, 2 being average, 3 being good, 4 being great, and 5 being amazing.. There is no "perfect" score, there is no seven shades of crap (most are not going to buy a game that scored across the board 7's and lower, inless it has been heavily patched or changed) and there is no meaningless differences between .5's.. Or even less.
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#111 WitIsWisdom
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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

So it's a 6.5 because of no check points? Although it maybe because of the controls.

locopatho

I don't see how controls are an issue. People HATED Kid Icarus because of it's controls, while I had no problem. She needs to get better at games. I don't know how she rated Dark Souls so high. Surprised she could even get past the first stage. You want checkpoints? You need to EARN them. Hell, a lot of the time, old games didn't save. You had to beat games like Mario Bros 1,2,3, Castlevania 1, etc all in ONE sitting.

Yeah when you gotta go back to 80s game design to defend something, pretty sure she has a legit critiscism. 80s games were like an hour long, so they slaughtered you over and over again and were stingy with checkpoints to lengthen the game. Happily we no longer have to do that, we have tons of content in our games and don't need the artificial lengthening.

I disagree with this on many levels. Sure, that was the case with some games... Games today are way to easy. Kids with their make believe ADD can not sit still long enough to actually beat a genuinely hard segment of a game without check points and save spheres every 5 feet. Some games back in "the 80's" were crap in the fact that they were almost impossible... it would not have mattered if there were save points or not if you could not get to them... lol. However, that was not the case in the majority of the ones that were decent. Also, most of the side scrolling shooters or games that could be beaten within 1 hour were limited to lack of AI making a lot of segments memorization more than being just plain too hard. I can think of a bunch of games that were every bit as long as games we have around today.

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#112 Shinobishyguy
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I never understood why outliers are always demonized. Isn't it important to get a wide range of perspectives? If Carolyn found the game frustrating to play, then it's likely that there will be other people who feel the same way. Reviews are supposed to be subjective, and it will be inevitable that for most games there will be people who love it and those who hate it. It's important to probably understand their points of view to get a better composite picture of the quality of the game.

nintendoman562

thats all fine and good, but when people start looking at the few negative reviews as "the only ones that are honest" is when it starts getting stupid. As if being overly negative on a game give you more credibility

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#113 Gallowhand
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The number system needs to go.. No one knows or gives a fvck the difference between a 8.5 and 9.0.. There is no basis between the two which would give it one or the other.. We need a system like a 5 star system.. 1 being poor, 2 being average, 3 being good, 4 being great, and 5 being amazing.. There is no "perfect" score, there is no seven shades of crap (most are not going to buy a game that scored across the board 7's and lower, inless it has been heavily patched or changed) and there is no meaningless differences between .5's.. Or even less.sSubZerOo

I agree, but I'd actually strip it down to just using the words - poor, average, good, etc.

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#114 Darth-Samus
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Whoa whoa whoa....they gave it a 6.5??!!?!

Gamespot. What a bunch of idiots.

I mean how else would they get noticed if they didn't post the one high profile contradicting score? At least they know who they really are: More concerned with shock value for the sake of notariaty than in reviewing integrity. Can't wait to pick up my 9.3 reviewing Luigi's Mansion 2 tomorrow.

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#115 Wanderer5
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Whatever, it just one damn review, or more like one score. Also it seems quite a few people still don't get that GS doesn't go from 10 and reduce it from there.

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#116 PurpleMan5000
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

[QUOTE="deathmasterk"]

So a 6.5 for lack of checkpoints and spikes in difficulty? Hmmm..... didnt GTA IV score a perfect 10? yeah.....

Valknut4



I can't even begin to understand your point here. Checkpoints? GTA IV? Wat?

 

GtaVI had those same problems, how is this hard to see? Not to even bring up the extreme **** that is the PC port. I mean come on... Bank mission anyone? Ya I loved doing that 10 times over an over starting from the start of the mission, /vomit.

I thought the bank mission in GTA IV was one of the best levels in any video game I have ever played. If the whole game was like that it would be my favorite game of all time. I just got tired of all of the easy "follow a car" or "drive here and shoot some guy, then run from the cops and easily get away" missions that made the majority of the game. I still really liked it, though. I would have scored it a 9.0.
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#117 Rayne718
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I picked up the game at the nintendo world launch event today, been playing for a bit and I honestly don't see this difficulty she's talking about. She's on crack, or she just can't play video games properly. Game isn't hard AT ALL so far. Doubt it will be spiking. Game is amazing by the way. If you're on the fence about this game, dont be. Pick it up. Enjoy it. Love it. 

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#118 lilasianwonder
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Don't care.  Still getting the game.

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#119 Microsoft1234
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lol GTA IV, u know rockstar had to be giving GS some money back then. i think this site has revitalized it's image after Gerstmanngate, but yes some of their reviews are bad (on all plats)
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#120 goblaa
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Isn't it a port of a 90s game? These Luigi and Mario fellas seem familiar. 6.5 is generous.SolidSnake35

How is a sequel a port?

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#121 Shadowchronicle
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I'm sorry but you people are made about one review? Ugh... I seriously can't believe this. Pathetic. Sure whatever it is unjustified but it is one review. I'm sure plenty of you are guilty for the same things. Reviews are opinions.
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#122 youngmurk911
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it got a 6.5? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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#123 Master_ShakeXXX
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I thought it sounded reasonable. If a game is frustrating for stupid reasons then it should be judged for that. A sh*tty checkpoint system is certainly something to knock big points off of a game for. Lord knows I hate having to be forced to play through the same level multiple times.

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#124 lamprey263
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it's at least good to know why they didn't like it, personally I think it might add some extra game time to have to replay large sections, otherwise with checkpoints like right before every encounter could maybe make one blow through a game too quickly... then again I hope it's not so frustrating that I agree with the reviewer, but I don't hate the reviewer for having this view, at least they said why, otherwise it still seems like they liked a lot else and that just reaffirms my commitment to get it tomorrow
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#125 freedomfreak
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Whine. Lots and lots of whine. Just stop and pick it up the damn game when it's released. The obsession over scores in this place is ridiculous.
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#126 skrat_01
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So a 6.5 for lack of checkpoints and spikes in difficulty? Hmmm..... didnt GTA IV score a perfect 10? yeah.....

deathmasterk
One game isn't quite like the other. Time, writers etc. Time to hop off your angry pedastle - and I agree with any sentiment that GTA IV isn't a GS 10/10 game. Also, 10 =/= perfect.
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#127 fernandmondego_
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[QUOTE="deathmasterk"]

gta4 needed checkpoints so bad it wasnt even funny, fail a mission, hey lets spend 10 minutes driving across the city just to retry the mission again!

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#128 themagicbum9720
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lol at wanting checkpoints.
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#129 zassimick  Moderator
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Leaving to pick this game up in a few minutes. Can't wait to hear that bro humming with the music again. :D