Games with Gold comes to Xbone in June.

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#51  Edited By misterpmedia
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@Salt_The_Fries said:

Would you be able to queue games for Xbox one with active gold membership even if you don't have the machine yet?

tweet the spence. Never thought about that.

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#52  Edited By shellcase86
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This is hilarious. Looking forward to the next 180.

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#53 ghostwarrior786
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@Salt_The_Fries said:

Would you be able to queue games for Xbox one with active gold membership even if you don't have the machine yet?

should do. the games will be under the game for gold section on their website just log in and get them

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#54  Edited By RR360DD
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@misterpmedia said:

@cainetao11 said:

@misterpmedia said:

Fair enough. I was here for about the entire last gen. And it got to a point with the Paying for multiplayer threads, where people were asking mods to just lock em. It was out of control, and it was done on this moral high ground. But then Sony leased them some games, and announce pay for MP and not one moral high ground peep. And MS is called greedy? Every game I got from GWG on 360 is still there when I don't pay anymore. Starting in June? No.

Not sure I followed the bold. But for the rest I get what you're saying. One thing though, I think you'd be surprised on how many people sign up for plus for the 'free games' rather than the ability to play online. That's why it was kinda a both devious and well placed move by Sony.

Wouldn't be surprising in the slightest. PSN subs tripled as soon as gamers were forced to pay to play online with the PS4.

Sony only made $140 million from PSPlus subs in 2012 (XBL made $1.25 billion). So the majority are signing up because sony have forced their hand.

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#55  Edited By misterpmedia
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@RR360DD said:

@misterpmedia said:

@cainetao11 said:

@misterpmedia said:

Fair enough. I was here for about the entire last gen. And it got to a point with the Paying for multiplayer threads, where people were asking mods to just lock em. It was out of control, and it was done on this moral high ground. But then Sony leased them some games, and announce pay for MP and not one moral high ground peep. And MS is called greedy? Every game I got from GWG on 360 is still there when I don't pay anymore. Starting in June? No.

Not sure I followed the bold. But for the rest I get what you're saying. One thing though, I think you'd be surprised on how many people sign up for plus for the 'free games' rather than the ability to play online. That's why it was kinda a both devious and well placed move by Sony.

Wouldn't be surprising in the slightest. PSN subs tripled as soon as gamers were forced to pay to play online with the PS4.

Sony only made $140 million from PSPlus subs in 2012 (XBL made $1.25 billion). So the majority are signing up because sony have forced their hand.

Must have been all those 360 users.that jumped ship ;). What are your thoughts on your new lovely PS+ type Xbone subscription service? :P

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#56  Edited By LadyBlue
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These don't affect the 360 structure?
Two free games that you actually get to keep.

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#57 LadyBlue
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@lostrib said:

Considering how it's gone on 360, wtf are they going to give away?

They gave away sleep dogs.

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#58  Edited By cainetao11
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@misterpmedia said:

@cainetao11 said:

Plus, which I have been a member since its first year, was one of the greatest, sly business moves. Japanese always best americans at that. Started at Pearl, LOL.

'And MS is called greedy' was referring to posters who were calling them out for pay for MP, but once they were leased some games, they weren't all high and moral. Sounds like greed when your principles can be bought with 2 "free" games a month. But MS is called greedy, was my point there.

lol damn you quoted before I edited, meant Plus not gold*. Also lol'd at Pearl reference.

Glad you got the laugh out of it. I try to be more optimist than pessimist in life. I am glad they are trying to change their face. I know for some hardcore fanboys NOTHING either does will be good. These poor souls are just lacking realistic perspective on life.

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#59 cainetao11
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@RR360DD said:

@misterpmedia said:

@cainetao11 said:

@misterpmedia said:

Fair enough. I was here for about the entire last gen. And it got to a point with the Paying for multiplayer threads, where people were asking mods to just lock em. It was out of control, and it was done on this moral high ground. But then Sony leased them some games, and announce pay for MP and not one moral high ground peep. And MS is called greedy? Every game I got from GWG on 360 is still there when I don't pay anymore. Starting in June? No.

Not sure I followed the bold. But for the rest I get what you're saying. One thing though, I think you'd be surprised on how many people sign up for plus for the 'free games' rather than the ability to play online. That's why it was kinda a both devious and well placed move by Sony.

Wouldn't be surprising in the slightest. PSN subs tripled as soon as gamers were forced to pay to play online with the PS4.

Sony only made $140 million from PSPlus subs in 2012 (XBL made $1.25 billion). So the majority are signing up because sony have forced their hand.

Yeah well I said that in many threads last gen. MP is the most compelling reason to join. And it was absolute genius business by MS. It forced Sony to copy as evidenced by less money from Plus on PS3. But Sony has made genius moves as well, and MS has been forced to follow. Guess what folks? This has happened in every industry in human existence!!

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@ladyblue said:

@lostrib said:

Considering how it's gone on 360, wtf are they going to give away?

They gave away sleep dogs.

I meant what are they going to give away on X1

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#61 Cubs360
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@ninjapirate2000: Because Microsoft is bringing the bombs to E3.

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#62 EducatingU_PCMR
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So it'll be like PS+ but worse because you only get to rent 2 games, lol

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#63 HalcyonScarlet
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Now xbox owners will love renting and games going away as soon as the subscription is over.. here we go again even the fanbase backtracks lmao

hmmm like how PS owners suddenly enjoy paying for online, since last gen 'half a game was being held at ransom' I believe they said.

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I don't like this new system, I preferred the old way, at least the games were yours outright. I usually buy the games I want on day 1, I don't care much for sales or this constant mania with rebates an all that stuff that people rave about on PSN+, but I definitely pick up games on sales and such, it is just not my main preoccupation.....what I like about Xbox Live, and why I don't mind paying 5$ per month, is because it offers a great online gaming experience, minimal lag, regular updates, clear voice chat quality, dedicated cloud servers on some games, etc.

Hopefully they will keep the XBL service their priority with all the revenue they get from XBL, I just don't want their focus to be about rebates, discounts, free games, etc. I want them to focus more on the quality of their service.

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#65 TwistedShade
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Love this and I'm glad Microsoft is starting to get into their zone here. Haven't bought many digital game on my Xbox One so I'll definitely play these two.

Competition is definitely good for this industry and anybody who wants one of these companies to "Die" is delusional. You can bet none of this stuff would have ever happened if Sony wasn't around to keep Microsoft in their place, and you can bet the PS3 and Sony as a whole would have been a different Company if Microsoft never entered with the Xbox 360.

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#66 xhawk27
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More Value right Cows.

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#67 misterpmedia
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@xhawk27 said:

More Value right Cows.

not for you lems, you guys hate renting.

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#68  Edited By xhawk27
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@misterpmedia said:

@xhawk27 said:

More Value right Cows.

not for you lems, you guys hate renting.

Renting, I am paying for the Online gaming but the games are a little bonus. :D

This is only for the Xbox One on the 360 you still get to keep your games.

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#69  Edited By CrownKingArthur
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so they've changed the way they do things? "a game with gold" is maintained through regular payments of the live fee.

that stinks.

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#70 xhawk27
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@CrownKingArthur said:

so they've changed the way they do things? "a game with gold" is maintained through regular payments of the live fee.

that stinks.

It works for Sony you don't have people complaining do you?

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#71 LadyBlue
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@CrownKingArthur said:

so they've changed the way they do things? "a game with gold" is maintained through regular payments of the live fee.

that stinks.

A step back for sure. Though now they will be offering newer games.

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#72 CrownKingArthur
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@xhawk27 said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

so they've changed the way they do things? "a game with gold" is maintained through regular payments of the live fee.

that stinks.

It works for Sony you don't have people complaining do you?

i've never supported that either. i haven't exactly supported either of them, mostly because it's a lucky dip.

and yeah i've seen people complain about PS+.

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#73 CrownKingArthur
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@xhawk27 said:

This is only for the Xbox One on the 360 you still get to keep your games.

oh i did not know that. that's interesting.

ok.

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If you have to keep paying solely for the X1, then this makes sense. They're drastically newer games.

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@CrownKingArthur said:
@xhawk27 said:

This is only for the Xbox One on the 360 you still get to keep your games.

oh i did not know that. that's interesting.

ok.

I think that is what they are going to do. If not than the 360 should start getting newer games like on PSN+.

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#76  Edited By misterpmedia
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@xhawk27 said:

but you rent them on Xbone.

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@misterpmedia said:

@xhawk27 said:

but you rent them on Xbone.

So you rent all games on Playstation systems. On the Xbox 360 you get to keep them.

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@xhawk27 said:

@misterpmedia said:

@xhawk27 said:

but you rent them on Xbone.

So you rent all games on Playstation systems. On the Xbox 360 you get to keep them.

that's the point... lol. You can keep them on your 360 but not on your Xbone. Which are you planning on using more for the next 10 years? Lems hate renting, they've made that excruciatingly clear.

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#79  Edited By xhawk27
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@misterpmedia said:

@xhawk27 said:

@misterpmedia said:

@xhawk27 said:

but you rent them on Xbone.

So you rent all games on Playstation systems. On the Xbox 360 you get to keep them.

that's the point... lol. You can keep them on your 360 but not on your Xbone. Which are you planning on using more for the next 10 years? Lems hate renting, they've made that excruciatingly clear.

Do you really think any company is going to let you keep a game that is less than a year old? Do not go into business. lol

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#80  Edited By misterpmedia
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@xhawk27 said:

Do you really think any company is going to let you keep a game that is less than a year old? Do not go into business. lol

I don't think you're getting the point I'm making lol. Your Xbone subscription free game service is now a glorified rental service, just like PS+. One you have probably bashed for being as such. I'm just surprised that lems like you are looking forward to it. Don't you think MS should have kept the same model of ownership for your brand spanking new Xbone?

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#81  Edited By melonfarmerz
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PS4's still a much better choice but IMO, MS is making some decent strides.

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#82  Edited By xhawk27
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@misterpmedia said:

@xhawk27 said:

Do you really think any company is going to let you keep a game that is less than a year old? Do not go into business. lol

I don't think you're getting the point I'm making lol. Your Xbone subscription free game service is now a glorified rental service, just like PS+. One you have probably bashed being as such. I'm just surprised that lems like you are looking forward to it. Don't you think MS should have kept the same model of ownership for your brand spanking new Xbone?

First I know what you are saying but you must remember that PSN+ started life on the PS3 where it was a renting service since Online gaming was free. That is not the case with the PS4 since you have to pay for Online gaming unless you are only going to play FTP and MMO games online. XBL gold you always had to pay to play online so this is only a bonus.

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@xhawk27 said:

First I know what you are saying but you must remember that PSN+ started life on the PS3 where it was a renting service since Online gaming was free. That is not the case with the PS4 since you have to pay for Online gaming unless you are only going to play FTP and MMO games online.

I'm aware of how PS+ started out, and it's still a renting service on the PS4 especially for people who don't care to play multiplayer, but this isn't what we're talking about though as Sony pumps Plus full of value that it seems nonsensical not to. Therefore most PS+ users don't mind it being a glorified rental service and I doubt many have complained about subscription tied content, who do mind ad have always laughed and bashed it are lems, and MS have just implemented that same PS+ standard to the Xbone. I expect a full on backlash from lems.

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#84 starwolf474
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Dammit, I'm not happy about this. It is important to me that I own my games, so if Games with Gold is just a rental service like PS+ now then it has no value to me anymore.

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#85 GravityX
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If you are going to use Xbone, Can you at least capitalize the XBOne. jeez

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#86 gago-gago
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I game share with my bro. I'm guessing even when I go Silver, I can still access these games because of Xbox One's game sharing feature. His account is on my One, meaning whatever he buys with his account on his Xbox One, I could access it on my console. Looking forward for June and check out Max which got positive reviews, its a pretty new game too.

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#87  Edited By santoron
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@ninjapirate2000 said:

Why didn't they save these announcements for e3?

e3 is great for getting software and hardware in front of journalists that can then give impressions to the public. We do't need impressions on price cuts, or free games. We like 'em.

Let e3 be about Games.

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#88  Edited By NathanDrakeSwag
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M$ can copy everything from the PS4 except 1080p LOL

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

M$ can copy everything from the PS4 except 1080p LOL

Lets not forget the PS4 is a beefed up 360.

So saying M$ copied sony doesn't make sense.

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@RR360DD said:

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

M$ can copy everything from the PS4 except 1080p LOL

Lets not forget the PS4 is a beefed up 360.

So saying M$ copied sony doesn't make sense.

Not really. PS3 was more powerful than 360 and had bluray. PS4 is a continuation of everything Sony got right from 2009 onward and Xbone is a continuation of everything M$ got wrong since 2010.

They can pull all the 180s they want but the hardware still sucks and they won't be able to change it until they release another console.

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#91 RR360DD
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

@RR360DD said:

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

M$ can copy everything from the PS4 except 1080p LOL

Lets not forget the PS4 is a beefed up 360.

So saying M$ copied sony doesn't make sense.

Not really. PS3 was more powerful than 360 and had bluray. PS4 is a continuation of everything Sony got right from 2009 onward and Xbone is a continuation of everything M$ got wrong since 2010.

They can pull all the 180s they want but the hardware still sucks and they won't be able to change it until they release another console.

Nope, the PS4 is a continuation of everything MS got right with the 360.

Launching games with gold is not a 180 LOL do cows even know what a 180 is?

Can't wait to see this killer PS4 lineup of games that is supposedly on the way.

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#92 starwolf474
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It's amusing me to watch cows trying to criticize Microsoft for "copying" the PS4 and yet refusing to recognize all of the ways that Sony copied the Xbox 360.

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#93 misterpmedia
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@GravityX said:

If you are going to use Xbone, Can you at least capitalize the XBOne. jeez

no