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#51 Pray_to_me
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Xbone getting duked again. If you like multi platform games, Xbone ain't the system for you.

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#52 Animal-Mother
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@blackace said:
@MonsieurX said:

Oh look,another thread from commander trying to prove superiority on the X1

XB1 version actually has a better Metacritic score. lol!! More like PS4 = XB1 in this case. PC version is easily superior to both console versions.

HEY BLACKLACE

IT'S EASIER TO GET A BETTER METACRITIC SCORE WHEN YOU HAVE 32 REVIEWS OVER 55
YES IM TALKING TO YOU :P

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#54 rollermint
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@funkmaster1233: MATCH THE PC?

Hahahahahahah...u guys cant even run stock vanilla F4 @30 fps and u think u will get gfx mods to match pc?

Holy crap u consolites say the darndest things LOL

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#55  Edited By GhoX
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@rollermint said:

@funkmaster1233: MATCH THE PC?

Hahahahahahah...u guys cant even run stock vanilla F4 @30 fps and u think u will get gfx mods to match pc?

Holy crap u consolites say the darndest things LOL

Don't you know? Graphics runs on MAGIC.

Computer hardware has been running on the same thing for the last two decades, GPU manufacturers simply mod more MAGIC into your hardware. That's why I downloaded a new GPU last week.

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#56  Edited By Strutten
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@Animal-Mother: Dude, get a grip? Way to avoid that the problem is also on ps4? AS for you being a cow or not? You act like one, and thats more than enough for me.. Which is the actual problem this gen, the fanboys cows mostly, but thats not the topic.. But If you actually read and stayed on what you first said - you wouldnt look like an as*, you dont need an external hdd, it could/might help you in certain place, such loading, no stuttering and so on.. And if its needed still, doesnt thay neglect what you are spewing, And again the same problems is on ps4 also.. Now what huh?

As for me im running on stock 500gb and zero "0 fps" here, and again xboxdvr.com and i will upload clips for ya? Then lets see whois the silly one?

The game is riddled with bug on all platforms.. This isnt an xbox one only problem dude, but who am i kiddin' right ?

Hints; Candyland, Nxgamer, and GAF.

All shows either slowdowns or stops.. Some might have it and some might not.. I can certainly say i dont.. Same as for many others in this thread.. But you do like jumping the gun and go "i cant hear you lala" ..

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#57  Edited By sukraj
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@Szminsky said:

Pc>Ps4>X1 as usual... Who plays Fallout for graphics anyways?

yes so true

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#58  Edited By Strutten
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@Pray_to_me: i suggest to do some research first :) ps4 also got these problems and is also filled with bugs, which is on all platforms - atleast on this game, also it seems like people are forgetting what gaming is about? Do you really only care about some p's and what not ? Xb1 is more than good enough for games also multiplats, better than ps4 no some but very rare cases it is, does that make it obesolete heck no? Also is ps4 better than pc no? Guess that is neglecting what you are tryin to say..

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#59 Litchie
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People play Fallout on console? Lol, ouch.

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@funkmaster1233 said:
@RyviusARC said:
@babyjoker1221 said:

PC>XB1>PS4 as usual.

More like PC >>>PS4>XB1

And when mods arrive PC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PS4>XB1

You do realise that you can mod on the Xbox version, right? We will get graphic mods to match PC.

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Some good LOL here, this thread delivers. :D

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#62 tormentos
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The only thing this game proves is that Bethesda still can't optimize a game,and that every time that MS make has deal with a developer to get content or something like that some how the xbox one power level increase to 1.9 Teraflops and is able to beat the PS4 performance wise even at 1080p...lol

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#63  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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@sts106mat said:
@RyviusARC said:
@babyjoker1221 said:

PC>XB1>PS4 as usual.

More like PC >>>PS4>XB1

And when mods arrive PC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PS4>XB1

Lol Pc master race

more like PC master bates

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/fallout-4-release-caused-dip-in-pornhub-traffic/0159127

Pornhub are wondering when you will be visiting again

:-P

Didn't study prove that PC gamers are best in bed? :-P

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@tormentos said:

The only thing this game proves is that Bethesda still can't optimize a game,and that every time that MS make has deal with a developer to get content or something like that some how the xbox one power level increase to 1.9 Teraflops and is able to beat the PS4 performance wise even at 1080p...lol

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#65  Edited By Animal-Mother
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@Animal-Mother: Dude, get a grip? Way to avoid that the problem is also on ps4? AS for you being a cow or not? You act like one, and thats more than enough for me.. Which is the actual problem this gen, the fanboys cows mostly, but thats not the topic.. But If you actually read and stayed on what you first said - you wouldnt look like an as*, you dont need an external hdd, it could/might help you in certain place, such loading, no stuttering and so on.. And if its needed still, doesnt thay neglect what you are spewing, And again the same problems is on ps4 also.. Now what huh?

As for me im running on stock 500gb and zero "0 fps" here, and again xboxdvr.com and i will upload clips for ya? Then lets see whois the silly one?

The game is riddled with bug on all platforms.. This isnt an xbox one only problem dude, but who am i kiddin' right ?

Hints; Candyland, Nxgamer, and GAF.

All shows either slowdowns or stops.. Some might have it and some might not.. I can certainly say i dont.. Same as for many others in this thread.. But you do like jumping the gun and go "i cant hear you lala" ..

Get a grip on what? If youre sitting around throwing the term cow and fanboys around I can't take you seriously to begin with because it means you can't have a legitimate discussion with opinions and facts.

I can act however the hell I want, assigning me to some social circle of lunatics is absolutely asinine I play video games not stupid internet games. Here you can see for yourself

Also 1 person does not equal the rest of the population, it doesn't work that way you are in the simplest terms generalizing the issue and using yourself as the base for it. BF4 worked perfectly for me at launch, just because it did doesn't mean it worked for everyone else as well.

And yes the 0 FPS is an issue solely on the xbox one that I can find, there are big framerate drops on PS4 but nothing that I could find of the game hitting 0 FPS

Also if you've read my statements I never deny it doesn't have issues everywhere. I know the game has issues. Just more so on XB1 as stated by reviewers and multiple websites. Also I dont go to neogaf. So good job making an assumption there buddy.

Also not jumping the gun if it's a problem that's been reported.

I can google and show you facts all you want. But if you wanna disregard facts and look like an idiot be my guest.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=0+FPS+fallout+4

"But that's not the whole story. On top of this, Xbox One is unique in its suffering of a stuttering issue, halting the game experience for up to a second during play. It's a glaring hitch downward, and matching runs to the gates of Diamond City shows Xbox One dropping to a record 0fps (zero) while PS4 turns the same corner at 28fps. Each has their blips, but having tested two separate Xbox One and PS4 consoles, the results are always the same across the world at large; we get sizeable stutters on Microsoft's console that aren't present on PS4." I mean do you need me to fuckin spell it out for you anymore? Because in actuality youre the one sticking your fingers in your ears going lalalalalalal

Also seriously what the **** is candyland and NX gamer?

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#66  Edited By Animal-Mother
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Hey Moron

You shouldn't throw stones when you live in a glass house idiot. It's a fucking analysis of course it holds weight, what you think it's gonna change THAT much. Jesus H Christ. I've never met so many butthurt people in a thread before.

"But that's not the whole story. On top of this, Xbox One is unique in its suffering of a stuttering issue, halting the game experience for up to a second during play. It's a glaring hitch downward, and matching runs to the gates of Diamond City shows Xbox One dropping to a record 0fps (zero) while PS4 turns the same corner at 28fps. Each has their blips, but having tested two separate Xbox One and PS4 consoles, the results are always the same across the world at large; we get sizeable stutters on Microsoft's console that aren't present on PS4

It's out there, it happens. The games got framerate issues on both platforms. More so unfortunately on xbox one.

Also I would try to constructively talk to someone rather than call them an idiot out of the gate.

@T-razor1 said:

Hey idiot why are you giving us links that are pointing to DF's initial analysis. You're even stupid enough to link the performance analysis which was obviously done before the final analysis which says nothing about zero FPS. So what now the performance analysis holds more weight than their FINAL analysis you genius?? What a dumba**. This is the textbook definition of trying way too hard.

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#67  Edited By commander
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@Animal-Mother said:
@Strutten said:

Get a grip on what? If youre sitting around throwing the term cow and fanboys around I can't take you seriously to begin with because it means you can't have a legitimate discussion with opinions and facts.

I can act however the hell I want, assigning me to some social circle of lunatics is absolutely asinine I play video games not stupid internet games. Here you can see for yourself

Also 1 person does not equal the rest of the population, it doesn't work that way you are in the simplest terms generalizing the issue and using yourself as the base for it. BF4 worked perfectly for me at launch, just because it did doesn't mean it worked for everyone else as well.

And yes the 0 FPS is an issue solely on the xbox one that I can find, there are big framerate drops on PS4 but nothing that I could find of the game hitting 0 FPS

Also if you've read my statements I never deny it doesn't have issues everywhere. I know the game has issues. Just more so on XB1 as stated by reviewers and multiple websites. Also I dont go to neogaf. So good job making an assumption there buddy.

Also not jumping the gun if it's a problem that's been reported.

I can google and show you facts all you want. But if you wanna disregard facts and look like an idiot be my guest.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=0+FPS+fallout+4

"But that's not the whole story. On top of this, Xbox One is unique in its suffering of a stuttering issue, halting the game experience for up to a second during play. It's a glaring hitch downward, and matching runs to the gates of Diamond City shows Xbox One dropping to a record 0fps (zero) while PS4 turns the same corner at 28fps. Each has their blips, but having tested two separate Xbox One and PS4 consoles, the results are always the same across the world at large; we get sizeable stutters on Microsoft's console that aren't present on PS4." I mean do you need me to fuckin spell it out for you anymore? Because in actuality youre the one sticking your fingers in your ears going lalalalalalal

Also seriously what the **** is candyland and NX gamer?

That analysis doesn't matter anymore, they could have had a bad copy or made a mistake with their measuring units.

It's quite obvious when you look at the final verdict , here they don't say which console is best while in their early analysis they clearly said that the ps4 was the better platform. Hard to say that the ps4 is best as well when you look at the ps4 problems.

It's even more obvious when you look at reports all over the internet, everybody with an xboxone apparently doesn't have those mysterious stutters. That's a lot more than just one person, buddy. Yes sometimes when loading a new game the first seconds it stutters because it's still loading assets but this happens in pretty much every game. Not to mention these mysterious stutters happen on the ps4 as well, to a lesser degree.

Other reviewers don't talk about these stutters and say xboxone is the better version (like nxgamer and candlyland). I'm not saying the xboxone is the better version but I didn't have any stutters nor any other problem whatsoever. The only thing I noticed is that the pc graphics look way better.

Also what's up with you and that google search, it's already been pointed out by @T-razor1 and myself that all these sites use digital foundry as a source. So if they're wrong with their initial analysis, all those sites are wrong as well and that's exactly what happened otherwise df would have said in their final verdict that the ps4 was the best version and they didn't. That's why it's called a final verdict, is it that hard to understand?

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#68  Edited By Strutten
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@Animal-Mother: Dude no need to go there with moron.. Im not the only one saying this, also your little google search, is still from df.. Also just that you dont know what candyland or nxgamer is just yea - and yet you still try to hammer me down with df.

Anyway candyland and nxgamer they do the exact same things as df - i still refer to gaf, candyland and nxgamer.. Even df actually.. But im the idiot here lol?, This isnt and is still not xbox one only, well other platforms have to a lesser degree maybe, but still there..

And as for i cant have a discussion without an opinion or facts ? I can dude, you just ignored it and actually everyone else in this thread saying otherwise. And in the same time, went bananas - But go read a few fallout 4 threads on gaf and whatnot.. You will see that the problem is pretty much everwhere.. Its the game itself not the machines, sure they got dips and so on, wheres ps4 might come out top okay? But for the 0 fps issue, some have it and some not (goes for pretty much all platforms) (and no cant link via my phone).. No need to get semi furious - its a bethesda game its pretty much expected and im sure it will be ironed out quite soon..

Ohh yea also, didnt you call someone silly to begin with - also moron? But you cant take others seriously? Eerr what? I said you act like one? So yea i took you as a cow, comprehend dude comprehend .. Why is it you refuse to accept / see the ps4 or even pc is also riddled with these problems ? But im/we are the silly ones or even idiots? Why? Let me guess its xbox/ms right? Again thats what s wrong this gen. Get a grip.

Edit;

Even with your little "sour" parade :p, those with these problems, could just install on external hdd and play without stutter until patch.. Then its actually performing same or better than ps4 ? But im sure you just go "lol next gen, and needed to buy external" umm yes, 500/1tb fills quite fast and ext hdd also helps with performance and loading time..win win, i guess that goes for ps4 also by swapping out the hdd - Also what exactly is the/your problem?

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#69  Edited By Animal-Mother
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@commander said:

That analysis doesn't matter anymore, they could have had a bad copy or made a mistake with their measuring units.

It's quite obvious when you look at the final verdict , here they don't say which console is best while in their early analysis they clearly said that the ps4 was the better platform. Hard to say that the ps4 is best as well when you look at the ps4 problems.

It's even more obvious when you look at reports all over the internet, everybody with an xboxone apparently doesn't have those mysterious stutters. That's a lot more than just one person, buddy. Yes sometimes when loading a new game the first seconds it stutters because it's still loading assets but this happens in pretty much every game. Not to mention these mysterious stutters happen on the ps4 as well, to a lesser degree.

Other reviewers don't talk about these stutters and say xboxone is the better version (like nxgamer and candlyland). I'm not saying the xboxone is the better version but I didn't have any stutters nor any other problem whatsoever. The only thing I noticed is that the pc graphics look way better.

Also what's up with you and that google search, it's already been pointed out by @T-razor1 and myself that all these sites use digital foundry as a source. So if they're wrong with their initial analysis, all those sites are wrong as well and that's exactly what happened otherwise df would have said in their final verdict that the ps4 was the best version and they didn't. That's why it's called a final verdict, is it that hard to understand?

Ohh really than show me the proof where it doesn't matter. Also going by your post history, i'm done responding to you. Sorry don't waste my time anymore :D

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@Strutten said:

@Animal-Mother: Dude no need to go there with moron.. Im not the only one saying this, also your little google search, is still from df.. Also just that you dont know what candyland or nxgamer is just yea - and yet you still try to hammer me down with df.

Anyway candyland and nxgamer they do the exact same things as df - i still refer to gaf, candyland and nxgamer.. Even df actually.. But im the idiot here lol?, This isnt and is still not xbox one only, well other platforms have to a lesser degree maybe, but still there..

And as for i cant have a discussion without an opinion or facts ? I can dude, you just ignored it and actually everyone else in this thread saying otherwise. And in the same time, went bananas - But go read a few fallout 4 threads on gaf and whatnot.. You will see that the problem is pretty much everwhere.. Its the game itself not the machines, sure they got dips and so on, wheres ps4 might come out top okay? But for the 0 fps issue, some have it and some not (goes for pretty much all platforms) (and no cant link via my phone).. No need to get semi furious - its a bethesda game its pretty much expected and im sure it will be ironed out quite soon..

Ohh yea also, didnt you call someone silly to begin with - also moron? But you cant take others seriously? Eerr what? I said you act like one? So yea i took you as a cow, comprehend dude comprehend .. Why is it you refuse to accept / see the ps4 or even pc is also riddled with these problems ? But im/we are the silly ones or even idiots? Why? Let me guess its xbox/ms right? Again thats what s wrong this gen. Get a grip.

Edit;

Even with your little "sour" parade :p, those with these problems, could just install on external hdd and play without stutter until patch.. Then its actually performing same or better than ps4 ? But im sure you just go "lol next gen, and needed to buy external" umm yes, 500/1tb fills quite fast and ext hdd also helps with performance and loading time..win win, i guess that goes for ps4 also by swapping out the hdd - Also what exactly is the/your problem?


You assumed I did know what candyland and NXgamer were and assumed I was using it. Again Assumptions assumptions and you know what they say about those.

And no i've posted proof from a legitimate source while you're continuing to not provide any.

Also when someone goes on the attack and starts denying proof LEGITIMATE TESTABLE PROOF. it's a problem. Dude came out swinging. I'm gonna swing back. You wanna call me an idiot? Well make sure you're not an idiot too. It's a test, patches can fix the issue but if it's a problem that's been tested then I don't know what to say.

Also it's 2015 I respect the fact we can hook up external drives to these systems or at least the xb1 but we shouldnt have to for a game to work.

Also there's no sour parade. I enjoy games there's nothing else too it. Sorry I'm stating something that's coming from a legit source but again you can generalize all you want. I'm not saying it hits 0 FPS for everyone but the fact that it can on the xbox one is laughable. Very Very Laughable.

I'm out! I wouldn't bother wasting your time again :D

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#71 commander
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@Animal-Mother said:
@commander said:

That analysis doesn't matter anymore, they could have had a bad copy or made a mistake with their measuring units.

It's quite obvious when you look at the final verdict , here they don't say which console is best while in their early analysis they clearly said that the ps4 was the better platform. Hard to say that the ps4 is best as well when you look at the ps4 problems.

It's even more obvious when you look at reports all over the internet, everybody with an xboxone apparently doesn't have those mysterious stutters. That's a lot more than just one person, buddy. Yes sometimes when loading a new game the first seconds it stutters because it's still loading assets but this happens in pretty much every game. Not to mention these mysterious stutters happen on the ps4 as well, to a lesser degree.

Other reviewers don't talk about these stutters and say xboxone is the better version (like nxgamer and candlyland). I'm not saying the xboxone is the better version but I didn't have any stutters nor any other problem whatsoever. The only thing I noticed is that the pc graphics look way better.

Also what's up with you and that google search, it's already been pointed out by @T-razor1 and myself that all these sites use digital foundry as a source. So if they're wrong with their initial analysis, all those sites are wrong as well and that's exactly what happened otherwise df would have said in their final verdict that the ps4 was the best version and they didn't. That's why it's called a final verdict, is it that hard to understand?

Ohh really than show me the proof where it doesn't matter. Also going by your post history, i'm done responding to you. Sorry don't waste my time anymore :D

Is it really that hard to understand, they do research and come to certain conclusions, only to find later on that some of those conclusions were wrong.

That's why it's called a final verdict lol

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@Animal-Mother said:
@Strutten said:

@Animal-Mother: Dude no need to go there with moron.. Im not the only one saying this, also your little google search, is still from df.. Also just that you dont know what candyland or nxgamer is just yea - and yet you still try to hammer me down with df.

Anyway candyland and nxgamer they do the exact same things as df - i still refer to gaf, candyland and nxgamer.. Even df actually.. But im the idiot here lol?, This isnt and is still not xbox one only, well other platforms have to a lesser degree maybe, but still there..

And as for i cant have a discussion without an opinion or facts ? I can dude, you just ignored it and actually everyone else in this thread saying otherwise. And in the same time, went bananas - But go read a few fallout 4 threads on gaf and whatnot.. You will see that the problem is pretty much everwhere.. Its the game itself not the machines, sure they got dips and so on, wheres ps4 might come out top okay? But for the 0 fps issue, some have it and some not (goes for pretty much all platforms) (and no cant link via my phone).. No need to get semi furious - its a bethesda game its pretty much expected and im sure it will be ironed out quite soon..

Ohh yea also, didnt you call someone silly to begin with - also moron? But you cant take others seriously? Eerr what? I said you act like one? So yea i took you as a cow, comprehend dude comprehend .. Why is it you refuse to accept / see the ps4 or even pc is also riddled with these problems ? But im/we are the silly ones or even idiots? Why? Let me guess its xbox/ms right? Again thats what s wrong this gen. Get a grip.

Edit;

Even with your little "sour" parade :p, those with these problems, could just install on external hdd and play without stutter until patch.. Then its actually performing same or better than ps4 ? But im sure you just go "lol next gen, and needed to buy external" umm yes, 500/1tb fills quite fast and ext hdd also helps with performance and loading time..win win, i guess that goes for ps4 also by swapping out the hdd - Also what exactly is the/your problem?

You assumed I did know what candyland and NXgamer were and assumed I was using it. Again Assumptions assumptions and you know what they say about those.

And no i've posted proof from a legitimate source while you're continuing to not provide any.

Also when someone goes on the attack and starts denying proof LEGITIMATE TESTABLE PROOF. it's a problem. Dude came out swinging. I'm gonna swing back. You wanna call me an idiot? Well make sure you're not an idiot too. It's a test, patches can fix the issue but if it's a problem that's been tested then I don't know what to say.

Also it's 2015 I respect the fact we can hook up external drives to these systems or at least the xb1 but we shouldnt have to for a game to work.

Also there's no sour parade. I enjoy games there's nothing else too it. Sorry I'm stating something that's coming from a legit source but again you can generalize all you want. I'm not saying it hits 0 FPS for everyone but the fact that it can on the xbox one is laughable. Very Very Laughable.

I'm out! I wouldn't bother wasting your time again :D

You mean the same way it was laughable when it was discovered that the ps3 version of Skyrim fell to 0 FPS.

"These prolonged bouts of stuttering render the game almost completely unplayable, even during non-intensive walks down pathways, with some freezes lasting long enough to drag the frame-rate down to zero in places - the first time we've seen this in years of performance analysis here at Digital Foundry."-- Digital Foundry on the ps3 version of Skyrim

"It's the first time our performance analysis tools have ever recorded a 0FPS reading."-- Digital Foundry on the ps3 version of Skyrim

So you see Sony was the first to release a console having a game perform at zero frames per second.

Uumm I don't think it's a coincidence that we have zero frames per second recorded on games in back-to-back gens from the same developer/engine. See this is why I get heated with most of you Sony pu****s. Instead of coming to the more logical conclusion that it has something to do with the developer's engine you try to use this as some measuring stick to use as an example to keep spreading lies about how superior the ps4 is over the X1. Nothing could be farther from the truth and the fact that you and some other ponies try to use this game and company to further your "cause" and lies well then yes I stand by what I originally said to you... "YOU'RE A FU***** IDIOT".