EA: Nintendo is too kiddy for us. We don't make kiddy games

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#51 Jakandsigz
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Heh, EA and Activision have never liked Nintendo since day one back in the 80's when I was in just out of college. why would they ever suddenly want to make games for them now. Even the new management hate them just as much as the 5 older ones, and some of the olders ones are still there. In Activisions case Kotick has never liked them and has been with the company also since the 80's if not mistaken. Kiddy games is just icing on the cake. neither really ever want to put games on nintendo systems so this is just more of an excuse than anything really.

EA seems to be getting more blunt though, as the only think they have to say now after this is "Nah we just don't give a shit about them."

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#52 nintendoboy16
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@MFDOOM1983 said:

@nintendoboy16: Yea, because associated costs with developing on a console with historically low software sales has nothing to do with their current support, or lack there of. 3ds and wii games are relatively cheap to make with limited risk. "Became" implies change. Perhaps that change never took place with 3ds and WII, and EA found out the hard way that games that target an older demographic have limited appeal on Wii-U, which is only amplified by the small userbase.

Seems like EA hurt your feelings.

What, and statements from Reggie, Iwata, or Miyamoto didn't piss you off at one point?

Besides that, when you consider Wii and 3DS have similar reception, it does. My stance on EA making hypocritical statements doesn't change and putting it on different systems doesn't change that.

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#53  Edited By Pikminmaniac
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What a childish thing for EA to say...

They should have been honest and said it was because the system isn't selling well.

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#54  Edited By Draign
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EA turned their back on the Dreamcast and we all know what happened after that. Only difference is that EA has healthy competition these days.

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#55 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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lolEA.

Worst company of America releasing broken shit like Battlefield 4, FIFA 14, and SimCity, who the **** cares what they say?

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#56 Lord_Omikron666
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Pfffhahaha, did EA finally go full retard?

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#57 AtariKidX
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WiiU is doomed.

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#58 nintendoboy16
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@charizard1605 said:

lolEA.

Worst company of America releasing broken shit like Battlefield 4, FIFA 14, and SimCity, who the **** cares what they say?

Well, considering they are getting praise for making a statement like this...

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#59  Edited By hiphops_savior
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First off, there is nothing wrong with having a family friendly image. It's part of Nintendo's appeal, and one that they have developed over the years. There's also nothing that's stopping publishers from bringing in M-rated games over to Nintendo consoles either (Mortal Kombat aside, but that was an era where there is no such thing as a ratings system).

Face it, those who own an Xbox or Playstation isn't going to jump ship unless there is a compelling exclusive. And in this day and age, I don't think we will ever see something of the magnitude of FF7, Halo or GTA 3. Being kiddy isn't an insult, it is only if the gameplay itself is dumbed down for what is perceived to be a "kiddie" audience, which does not seem to be apparent at all with Nintendo games.

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#60 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@nintendoboy16 said:

@charizard1605 said:

lolEA.

Worst company of America releasing broken shit like Battlefield 4, FIFA 14, and SimCity, who the **** cares what they say?

Well, considering they are getting praise for making a statement like this...

On System Wars, which is literally the Mos Eisley of the internet. Go to a community with a better standard of discourse, such as Reddit or GAF- see the reactions there.

Judging general reactions or perceptions by using a board as supremely shitty as System Wars is laughable.

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#61  Edited By Gue1
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just give it some time that EA will come up saying that it was a misunderstanding, a lie or something like an employee speaking his mind but that the company does not share the sentiment.

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#62 LJS9502_basic
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@PurpleMan5000 said:

Yeah, EA sucks.

Yes indeed. Maybe they just don't make compelling enough games for Nintendo fans to spend their money on. I know it's rare that I pick up EA games.

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#63 silversix_
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Kidtendo damage control activated.

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#64  Edited By inb4uall
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@g0ddyX said:

EA speak the truth.

They have made some of the best games last gen and will continue to do so next gen.

Suddenly, some people are hating EA now lol.

You're an idiot. EA is the most hated corporation of both 2013 and 2012.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/04/09/ea-voted-worst-company-in-america-again/

Learn how to troll.

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#65  Edited By DocSanchez
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@silversix_: It's okay. None of them ever bought games by EA anyway. It's supremely lucky for them that every time a developer announces they aren't supporting wii u it's someone Nintendo fans aren't interested in. EA, bethesda, rockstar. Every single one of them has no games Nintendo fans are interested in.

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#66  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@draign said:

EA turned their back on the Dreamcast and we all know what happened after that. Only difference is that EA has healthy competition these days.

THIS is why I hate EA. DC....best console ever.

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#67 Suppaman100
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LMFAO, look at that sheep damage control/butthurt.

Come on now, EA said what almost everyone thinks. Nintendo caters to kids.

Why are sheep getting mad at something that is commonly known?

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#68  Edited By Jakandsigz
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@charizard1605 said:

lolEA.

Worst company of America releasing broken shit like Battlefield 4, FIFA 14, and SimCity, who the **** cares what they say?

It would not be so bad if you guys stopped buying their broken shit. lol.

@Gue1 said:

just give it some time that EA will come up saying that it was a misunderstanding, a lie or something like an employee speaking his mind but that the company does not share the sentiment.

Why? in fact, this right here is misleading because it's not even the real reason why they really don't support them. EA never has and it never will.

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#69 FinalFighters
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Ouch, sheep are feeling the sting. dont cry.

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#70 LordQuorthon
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You have to give EA all the credit. They could have said something along the lines of "Sales are just not strong enough to justify making games for the Wii U," but that just didn't cut it. They went and added the "TROLOLO TEH KIDDIEZ NINTENDO 80S CARTOON GAMES FOR THE KIDDES" to really make an impact on the dumber corners of the intrawebs.

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#71  Edited By trugs26
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I don't know if it's the "kiddy" aspect. It might be just because people see the third party games on the Wii U are not as good on other systems.

This is a complex problem, and ultimately stops with Nintendo. They need to resolve the issue - which is seemingly impossible. At the moment, there seems to be a chicken-egg problem of "we want to make games on Nintendo but the demographic is not popular enough VS making more games will increase the demographic". Everyone needs to either get on board or get out. And it seems like everyone is getting out. Personally, this is why I think big third party publishers have more of an obligation (for the sake of the industry) to support the three platforms irrespective of how they're going in sales. There is always rough patches for all companies, but if a big third party publisher doesn't support the platform, then you fall into the chicken/egg problem, and things become even harder. This is why I appreciate Ubisoft's efforts with Nintendo, and this is why I don't appreciate EA's efforts. Again, this is a complex problem, so I obviously don't blame EA for what they're doing. As I said, it ultimately stops with Nintendo.

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#72 Bishop1310
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truth is i think this is one of nintendo's biggest problems. They need to find a happy medium and stop trying to sell consoles to moms and dads.

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#73 BlbecekBobecek
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If by "kiddy games" they mean "games with actual gameplay", their statement is 100% true.

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#74  Edited By Sushiglutton
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It's true. I don't see what's bad about making a console primarily targeting kids though. One of the misstakes Nintendo did leading up to the Wii-U launch was pretending that it would be a multiplat machine that would bring core gamers back. That was silly of them. Nintendo should focus on what they are good at which is kid/family gaming. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

This doesn't mean that their games can't be enjoyed by adults, on the contrary they are some of the most fun games out there. But who does it serve to pretend Nintendo isn't primarily for kids?

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#75 m_machine024
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They made Boom Blox last gen tho. :P

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#76 IgGy621985
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@lundy86_4 said:

@g0ddyX said:

EA speak the truth.

They have made some of the best games last gen and will continue to do so next gen.

Suddenly, some people are hating EA now lol.

Suddenly?

Suddenly?

That's just load of crap. They did some bad moves, but to say they're the worst company in the US, come on...

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#77 Jag85
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Last I heard, the fallout between Nintendo and EA was over Nintendo rejecting EA's offer of using Origin as their online infrastructure. And now EA are claiming the fallout is because Nintendo are "teh kiddies"... Whatever the case, we probably won't know the real reason any time soon.

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#78  Edited By AugustEvans
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Most sheep are actually soccer moms and young children who don't care about non Nintendo games.

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#79  Edited By kingjazziephiz
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I call bs. If the Wii U was selling like the ps4 and Xbox, we would be seeing a shit load of shitty EA games

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#80  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@Jakandsigz said:

@charizard1605 said:

lolEA.

Worst company of America releasing broken shit like Battlefield 4, FIFA 14, and SimCity, who the **** cares what they say?

It would not be so bad if you guys stopped buying their broken shit. lol.

@Gue1 said:

just give it some time that EA will come up saying that it was a misunderstanding, a lie or something like an employee speaking his mind but that the company does not share the sentiment.

Why? in fact, this right here is misleading because it's not even the real reason why they really don't support them. EA never has and it never will.

Didn't buy anything from EA all last year, bro.

Well, except for their EA Humble Bundle.

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#82 DarkLink77
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@super600 said:

The WiiU version of Mass Effect 3 was not a solid effort. EA destroyed Mass effect 3's sale potential on the WiiU when they announced that trilogy complation for the 360,PS3,PC.And the game was kinda expensive.Also NFS Most Wanted U failed to because it was not a solid effort either even though it was the closest to one. EA also has produced kids games in the past couple of years.Also the article is pretty good even though that quote from an EA source was the worst part of the article. I agree with almost everything the article said.Nintendo does have the potential to modernize their company into something that fits the current video game market, but with their own idenitity.

Yo, this.

You can't make shitty ports and expect them to do gangbusters. EA is a dumb company.

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#83 Pffrbt
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Well at least EA never puts out any good games.

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#84  Edited By super600  Moderator
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@speak_low said:

The NPD showed that Just Dance Wii (kid/family) outsold everything on the Wii U except for Super Mario 3D World (kid/family).

In Japan, Pokemon (kid/family), Luigi's Mansion 3DS (kid/family), Animal Crossing New Leaf (kid/family), SM3D World (kid/family) and Wii U Party/Wii U Fit (kid/family) are the only things seen in the top of the chart for Nintendo.

Every Assassins Creed, Batman and COD all flop on the Wii U, just like Watch_Dogs U will too - if it even comes out and isn't cancelled (they'd be smart to save their money now and drop it)

So the Sheep have no good counterargument to what the EA guy said, when the Top Ten charts for Wii U and Wii is always dominated by kid/family (fact), and all mature or even sports games/racers on Wii U flop - anything not kid/family oriented always sell the worse on the Wii U.

EA is smart to stay away from this console. Never put money on a lame horse

The article doesn't just talk about TC's title.The EA quote was randomly thrown in their. ZombiU kinda nullifies what you said since it kinda sold decently for a new IP eventually even though Ubisoft thought it was a failure.EA destroyed the sales potential of any of the games they released.All of the gamse EA released during the WiiU's launch window would have sold better if they were not expensive,weren't missing dlc or were ported well with no missing features.

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@augustevans said:

Most sheep are actually soccer moms and young children who don't care about non Nintendo games.

Whut?

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#86  Edited By Jag85
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@kingjazziephiz said:

I call bs. If the Wii U was selling like the ps4 and Xbox, we would be seeing a shit load of shitty EA games

Actually, the X1 didn't sell any better than the Wii U did in its first few months. The problem with the Wii U was that it got very few new releases after that (largely due to the fallout with EA and other third-parties) and ended up selling really badly after those first few successful months.

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Haha, what a load of shit.

EA doesn't want to make Wii U games because their games won't sell, plain and simple. And the type of game doesn't even matter.

If EA thought for a second that they could sell the hell out of some "kiddy" game they would be cranking them out non-stop.

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I guess thats why they also released games on the 3DS and Wii.

Fucking hypocrites. EA is shit anyways imo.

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#89  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@super600 said:

@augustevans said:

Most sheep are actually soccer moms and young children who don't care about non Nintendo games.

Whut?

It's true.

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#90  Edited By chrisrooR
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The Sims? Simcity?

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#91  Edited By I_can_haz
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@ConanTheStoner said:

Haha, what a load of shit.

EA doesn't want to make Wii U games because their games won't sell, plain and simple. And the type of game doesn't even matter.

If EA thought for a second that they could sell the hell out of some "kiddy" game they would be cranking them out non-stop.

Can you really blame them though? How many Non-Nintendo games sell well on the WiiU.

Even Mario is struggling on the WiiU these days. Of course 3rd party guys like EA will start to get pissed that their games which sell like crack on Sony and M$ platforms are struggling on WiiU. Even COD Ghosts, the highest selling game on the planet was a total flop on WiiU.

Truth hurts Sheep, blame Nintendo for failing you guys with the WiiU not 3rd party devs.

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#92 CrownKingArthur
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@augustevans said:

Most sheep are actually soccer moms and young children who don't care about non Nintendo games.

that's actually really disheartening to learn. i had no idea.

so these young children must get impregnated at a very young age, and bear the child while still young children themselves, thus the burden of soccer-motherhood is forced upon them. terrible news.

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#93 ConanTheStoner
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@I_can_haz said:

@ConanTheStoner said:

Haha, what a load of shit.

EA doesn't want to make Wii U games because their games won't sell, plain and simple. And the type of game doesn't even matter.

If EA thought for a second that they could sell the hell out of some "kiddy" game they would be cranking them out non-stop.

Can you really blame them though? How many Non-Nintendo games sell well on the WiiU.

Even Mario is struggling on the WiiU these days. Of course 3rd party guys like EA will start to get pissed that their games which sell like crack on Sony and M$ platforms are struggling on WiiU. Even COD Ghosts, the highest selling game on the planet was a total flop on WiiU.

Truth hurts Sheep, blame Nintendo for failing you guys with the WiiU not 3rd party devs.

Well yes, thank you for the long winded reiteration of what I just said. That was my point. Nothing is selling on the Wii U and that is precisely why EA has no interest. It's perfectly understandable.

That's why the whole kiddy console excuse is so dumb. The Wii U doesn't even have enough games to be classified as anything yet. And I'll repeat, if EA thought that kiddy games sold amazingly well on the Wii U, they would be making kiddy games non-stop.

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#94  Edited By I_can_haz
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@ConanTheStoner said:

@I_can_haz said:

@ConanTheStoner said:

Haha, what a load of shit.

EA doesn't want to make Wii U games because their games won't sell, plain and simple. And the type of game doesn't even matter.

If EA thought for a second that they could sell the hell out of some "kiddy" game they would be cranking them out non-stop.

Can you really blame them though? How many Non-Nintendo games sell well on the WiiU.

Even Mario is struggling on the WiiU these days. Of course 3rd party guys like EA will start to get pissed that their games which sell like crack on Sony and M$ platforms are struggling on WiiU. Even COD Ghosts, the highest selling game on the planet was a total flop on WiiU.

Truth hurts Sheep, blame Nintendo for failing you guys with the WiiU not 3rd party devs.

Well yes, thank you for the long winded reiteration of what I just said. That was my point. Nothing is selling on the Wii U and that is precisely why EA has no interest. It's perfectly understandable.

That's why the whole kiddy console excuse is so dumb. The Wii U doesn't even have enough games to be classified as anything yet. And I'll repeat, if EA thought that kiddy games sold amazingly well on the Wii U, they would be making kiddy games non-stop.

Oh ok I see what you mean. You have a valid point. I misunderstood your post and thought you were like some of the delusional sheep in this thread damage controlling for Nintendo.

Yea the WiiU is a disaster, I just hope things pick up soon for them. I wouldn't want them to totally expire and leave only Sony and M$ fighting the console war. This is why Nintendo has to get their heads out of their asses and figure out a way to get people interested in the WiiU again.

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#97 turtlethetaffer
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EA is pretty shitty as a company anyways, so there's no point listening to them. They still put out decent games though.

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#98 ConanTheStoner
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@I_can_haz said:

@ConanTheStoner said:

@I_can_haz said:

@ConanTheStoner said:

Haha, what a load of shit.

EA doesn't want to make Wii U games because their games won't sell, plain and simple. And the type of game doesn't even matter.

If EA thought for a second that they could sell the hell out of some "kiddy" game they would be cranking them out non-stop.

Can you really blame them though? How many Non-Nintendo games sell well on the WiiU.

Even Mario is struggling on the WiiU these days. Of course 3rd party guys like EA will start to get pissed that their games which sell like crack on Sony and M$ platforms are struggling on WiiU. Even COD Ghosts, the highest selling game on the planet was a total flop on WiiU.

Truth hurts Sheep, blame Nintendo for failing you guys with the WiiU not 3rd party devs.

Well yes, thank you for the long winded reiteration of what I just said. That was my point. Nothing is selling on the Wii U and that is precisely why EA has no interest. It's perfectly understandable.

That's why the whole kiddy console excuse is so dumb. The Wii U doesn't even have enough games to be classified as anything yet. And I'll repeat, if EA thought that kiddy games sold amazingly well on the Wii U, they would be making kiddy games non-stop.

Oh ok I see what you mean. You have a valid point. I misunderstood your post and thought you were like some of the delusional sheep in this thread damage controlling for Nintendo.

Yea the WiiU is a disaster, I just hope things pick up soon for them. I wouldn't want them to totally expire and leave only Sony and M$ fighting the console war. This is why Nintendo has to get their heads out of their asses and figure out a way to get people interested in the WiiU again.

No worries man.

And I never thought I'd say this I_Can_Haz, but we are in full agreement on this one.

I do hope Nintendo turns their console business around, but I'm also glad that they're going through so much trouble right now. Companies need a kick in the ass from time to time. Sony got theirs early last gen and it really worked wonders for them. Hopefully Nintendo answers the wake up call. They may be great game developers, but they seem to be oblivious when it comes to everything else.

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#99  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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Mass Effect 3 was far from a Major Effort on EA's part.

@Jakandsigz EA was a major supporter of the Gamecube.

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I can only imagine how crappy a "family friendly" game made by EA would be.