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#1  Edited By Shewgenja
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Sony Working on Improving Multithreading and Parallel Processing for PS4 and PS3

by on April 18, 2014 4:26 PM 325@abriael

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Microsoft’s introduction of DirectX 12 has impressed many especially due to the ability to massively improve the multithreading efficiency of the CPU, which will apply to both PCs and Xbox One, but apparently Sony isn’t staying idle, and is working to improve pretty much the same areas on its consoles, as shown by a career opportunity ad seeking a Senior Software Systems Engineer.

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SCEA is currently looking for a highly-talented Systems Engineer to act as an industry expert and leader in systems level development on PlayStation® platforms. This individual should be able to handle various low-level multithreading and SIMD issues and be able to use that knowledge to collaborate with industry-leading developers. If you are driven to do hands-on low-level research on cutting-edge hardware, are well-versed in engine design and architecture and are looking to use your knowledge to drive the industry and make an impact on multiple game titles, then we want to talk to you.

Qualifications

Required Educations / Experience:

  • A minimum of 3 years programming experience in C/C++
  • Experience working on the low-level platform specific layer of a game engine
  • Experience using CPU profiling tools to measure game performance, identify bottlenecks and resolve them
  • Understanding of various game engine optimization algorithms/techniques
  • Understanding of multi-core processors such as SPUs
  • Strong understanding of 3D math
  • Bachelor’s degree in Computer Science or equivalent
  • Keeps current on the latest trends in multithreading and multi-core programming techniques

Experience with the following a plus:

  • Shipped at least 1 game on current generation platforms
  • Experience implementing real-time algorithms and techniques using hardware features to perform parallel computation
  • Assembly level programming experience on current generation platforms
  • Experience in tool development (asset pipeline, exporters, etc.)
  • Experience working in a support environment
  • Knowledge of SPU coding and optimization
  • Understanding of GPGPU programming and Shaders
  • Low-level understanding of DMA
  • Experience with low level audio systems
  • Experience with asynchronous file systems

_________________________

The competences listed are definitely interesting, as they describe a candidate able to have a very solid impact on the performance of games at a very low level, working directly on the engine or even deeper. The goal of improving multithreading (the ability to use all the cores of the CPU efficiently) and SIMD (parallel computation of the same operation on multiple data points) is very similar to the effect that will be achieved by DirectX 12.

What’s interesting is that while the ad definitely indicates application on PS4 due to the mention of GPGPU (General-purpose computing on graphics processing units) and cutting-edge hardware, it seems that the candidate will also work on PS3, which is the only console using SPUs (Synergistic Processing Unit). Looks like Sony’s veteran console hasn’t yet given all it could.

It’ll be interesting to see what kind of effect this kind of optimization will bring to PlayStation platforms, even if most probably we won’t even notice. The games will be faster and better, but we won’t know that the improvement will be due to the work of people like the one that will get this job. Engineers are definitely the unsung heroes of the video game industry.

Where is your god, now?

The bad news doesn't seem to end for the XBox. Thankfully, no one has been absurd enough to make 2x power claims yet, but what is clear is that the gap between PS4 and XBone isn't going to be closed with DX12. Better luck next-gen.

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Congrats you owned them Xbox fanboys by sounding like an utter Ps fanboy........

System wars at it's finest here!

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@naz99 said:

Congrats you owned them Xbox fanboys by sounding like an utter Ps fanboy........

System wars at it's finest here!

Why so serious? You have to admit, after seeing the myriad of threads about discreet gpus and DX12, this is icing on the cake. It's not System Wars if you're not having fun with this stuff man.

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lol so sony hasn't even started development of a dx12 alternative and somehow Microsoft have been owned?

they haven't even got a team together to start the process! lol

all this article shows is that sony cant innovate, has shit itself on what dx12 can do and now has to copy everything Microsoft does.

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#5  Edited By lundy86_4
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Good job... I guess.

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#6  Edited By freedomfreak
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@lundy86_4 said:

Good job... I guess.

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#7  Edited By Shewgenja
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@Evo_nine said:

lol so sony hasn't even started development of a dx12 alternative and somehow Microsoft have been owned?

they haven't even got a team together to start the process! lol

all this article shows is that sony cant innovate, has shit itself on what dx12 can do and now has to copy everything Microsoft does.

Still salty after losing Corinne Yu, huh?

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@Evo_nine said:

lol so sony hasn't even started development of a dx12 alternative and somehow Microsoft have been owned?

they haven't even got a team together to start the process! lol

all this article shows is that sony cant innovate, has shit itself on what dx12 can do and now has to copy everything Microsoft does.

Agreed, what a joke! haha

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And STILL sony is following in MSs footsteps LOL

When will they innovate?

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Wut

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A job posting???? Head explode.

Drop a Titan on it.

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#13  Edited By Evo_nine
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@Shewgenja said:

@Evo_nine said:

lol so sony hasn't even started development of a dx12 alternative and somehow Microsoft have been owned?

they haven't even got a team together to start the process! lol

all this article shows is that sony cant innovate, has shit itself on what dx12 can do and now has to copy everything Microsoft does.

Still salty after losing Corinne Yu, huh?

maybe...if I knew what that was.

is that some sort of Korean automobile? If so, yes please return my Corinne yu.

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#14  Edited By lglz1337
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the power of

better believe lems

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This has to be one of the most idiotic thread titles I've read in a long time. Literally made no fucking sense.

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#16  Edited By Evo_nine
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@lglz1337 said:

the power of

better believe lems

cool....so naughty dog have picked up a wandering lady boy from Thailand?

good work, should help office morale.

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@Evo_nine: wandering lady boy... wtf do you even know who she is ?

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@lglz1337 said:

@Evo_nine: wandering lady boy... wtf do you even know who she is ?

errr.....ummmm......are you sure its a she?

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@Evo_nine said:

lol so sony hasn't even started development of a dx12 alternative and somehow Microsoft have been owned?

they haven't even got a team together to start the process! lol

all this article shows is that sony cant innovate, has shit itself on what dx12 can do and now has to copy everything Microsoft does.

That's a good point. MS are well into this and have been working on it for some time and it still won't come until next year. Sony who aren't good at writing software traditionally as it is, hasn't even begun this long process.

All I'm saying is, don't get too excited, it's still a long way off.

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SDC?

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Damn what an extrapolation. The story is basically, Sony is trying to hire another guy. That's all there is to it. It doesn't deserve a thread, companies hire all the time.

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@Shewgenja: Unfortunately the CPU in XB1 was specifically customized to work with DX12. the CPU in the PS4 isn't the same and won't work the same. It'll be interesting to see what Sony can do with it.

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#23  Edited By I_can_haz
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@Evo_nine said:

lol so sony hasn't even started development of a dx12 alternative and somehow Microsoft have been owned?

they haven't even got a team together to start the process! lol

all this article shows is that sony cant innovate, has shit itself on what dx12 can do and now has to copy everything Microsoft does.

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no worries, M$ always gives Hope...

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@blackace said:

@Shewgenja: Unfortunately the CPU in XB1 was specifically customized to work with DX12. the CPU in the PS4 isn't the same and won't work the same. It'll be interesting to see what Sony can do with it.

Is that why it doesn't support hUMA?

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@Shewgenja:

Microsoft has given demonstrations of cloud processing and DX12 improvements. PS4 fans damage control and calls BS and denies what they see. Yet a random article of sony TALKING about POSSIBILITY improving there weak imitation of DX12 and its 100% fact lol. Stupid cows.

No developers will waste there time with that weak knockoff imitation. They already know DirectX coding. Sony is so far behind when it comes to software technology its embarrassing for them. Xbox One with DirectX 12 doubling its performance and cloud processing is going to drill Sony. Fact.

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@RR360DD said:

And STILL sony is following in MSs footsteps LOL

When will they innovate?

I thought DirectX12 wasn't going to help the Xbox One according to the PS4 fans. But now that Sony is playing catch up, it's important now, wow that's why some PS4 fans are the worse.

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@GravityX: DX12 isn't going to do shit

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@Shewgenja said:

@blackace said:

@Shewgenja: Unfortunately the CPU in XB1 was specifically customized to work with DX12. the CPU in the PS4 isn't the same and won't work the same. It'll be interesting to see what Sony can do with it.

Is that why it doesn't support hUMA?

It doesn't need it. AMD worked with M$ on their CPU. It's designed to work efficiently with DX12 and M$ other tools and drivers.

DX12 > hUMA.

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@Shewgenja: this isn't bad news for xbox as you said....its called competition, I hope xbox gets their act together as far as graphics go because that will only make Sony work that much harder to out-do them. How old are you? You sound very childish. But thanks for the news.

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@ps4hasnogames said:

@Shewgenja: this isn't bad news for xbox as you said....its called competition, I hope xbox gets their act together as far as graphics go because that will only make Sony work that much harder to out-do them. How old are you? You sound very childish. But thanks for the news.

Ah, I'm just being playfully sarcastic. I figured I'd get attacked by the Lems for making this thread after the recent bout of bad news, but you must admit that it's really funny that the one and only PS4 secret sauce thread becomes a lightning rod after almost a full year of cloud hype, discreet gpu sith magic and DX12 Secret Sauce being perpetually puked onto this forum like the acidic bile of an insect swarm hoping that something will stick.

The Jimmies Have Been Rustled. TJHBR.

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@Shewgenja said:

Sony Working on Improving Multithreading and Parallel Processing for PS4 and PS3

by Giuseppe Nelva on April 18, 2014 4:26 PM 325@abriael

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Microsoft’s introduction of DirectX 12 has impressed many especially due to the ability to massively improve the multithreading efficiency of the CPU, which will apply to both PCs and Xbox One, but apparently Sony isn’t staying idle, and is working to improve pretty much the same areas on its consoles, as shown by a career opportunity ad seeking a Senior Software Systems Engineer.

__________________________

SCEA is currently looking for a highly-talented Systems Engineer to act as an industry expert and leader in systems level development on PlayStation® platforms. This individual should be able to handle various low-level multithreading and SIMD issues and be able to use that knowledge to collaborate with industry-leading developers. If you are driven to do hands-on low-level research on cutting-edge hardware, are well-versed in engine design and architecture and are looking to use your knowledge to drive the industry and make an impact on multiple game titles, then we want to talk to you.

Qualifications

Required Educations / Experience:

  • A minimum of 3 years programming experience in C/C++
  • Experience working on the low-level platform specific layer of a game engine
  • Experience using CPU profiling tools to measure game performance, identify bottlenecks and resolve them
  • Understanding of various game engine optimization algorithms/techniques
  • Understanding of multi-core processors such as SPUs
  • Strong understanding of 3D math
  • Bachelor’s degree in Computer Science or equivalent
  • Keeps current on the latest trends in multithreading and multi-core programming techniques

Experience with the following a plus:

  • Shipped at least 1 game on current generation platforms
  • Experience implementing real-time algorithms and techniques using hardware features to perform parallel computation
  • Assembly level programming experience on current generation platforms
  • Experience in tool development (asset pipeline, exporters, etc.)
  • Experience working in a support environment
  • Knowledge of SPU coding and optimization
  • Understanding of GPGPU programming and Shaders
  • Low-level understanding of DMA
  • Experience with low level audio systems
  • Experience with asynchronous file systems

_________________________

The competences listed are definitely interesting, as they describe a candidate able to have a very solid impact on the performance of games at a very low level, working directly on the engine or even deeper. The goal of improving multithreading (the ability to use all the cores of the CPU efficiently) and SIMD (parallel computation of the same operation on multiple data points) is very similar to the effect that will be achieved by DirectX 12.

What’s interesting is that while the ad definitely indicates application on PS4 due to the mention of GPGPU (General-purpose computing on graphics processing units) and cutting-edge hardware, it seems that the candidate will also work on PS3, which is the only console using SPUs (Synergistic Processing Unit). Looks like Sony’s veteran console hasn’t yet given all it could.

It’ll be interesting to see what kind of effect this kind of optimization will bring to PlayStation platforms, even if most probably we won’t even notice. The games will be faster and better, but we won’t know that the improvement will be due to the work of people like the one that will get this job. Engineers are definitely the unsung heroes of the video game industry.

Where is your god, now?

The bad news doesn't seem to end for the XBox. Thankfully, no one has been absurd enough to make 2x power claims yet, but what is clear is that the gap between PS4 and XBone isn't going to be closed with DX12. Better luck next-gen.

seriously?... gamespot needs to start giving IQ tests before they let people post.. this guys a joke.

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@Bishop1310 said:

@Shewgenja said:

Where is your god, now?

The bad news doesn't seem to end for the XBox. Thankfully, no one has been absurd enough to make 2x power claims yet, but what is clear is that the gap between PS4 and XBone isn't going to be closed with DX12. Better luck next-gen.

seriously?... gamespot needs to start giving IQ tests before they let people post.. this guys a joke.

Idle platitudes aside, have anything you want to add?

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@Shewgenja said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

@Shewgenja: this isn't bad news for xbox as you said....its called competition, I hope xbox gets their act together as far as graphics go because that will only make Sony work that much harder to out-do them. How old are you? You sound very childish. But thanks for the news.

Ah, I'm just being playfully sarcastic. I figured I'd get attacked by the Lems for making this thread after the recent bout of bad news, but you must admit that it's really funny that the one and only PS4 secret sauce thread becomes a lightning rod after almost a full year of cloud hype, discreet gpu sith magic and DX12 Secret Sauce being perpetually puked onto this forum like the acidic bile of an insect swarm hoping that something will stick.

The Jimmies Have Been Rustled. TJHBR.

A lightning rod? Its just sony saying they might try to do it. However Microsoft showed off demonstrations of DX12 and the mass improvements and cloud processing. PS4 fans are scared.

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anything outside of the DX monopoly is far far more advanced.

it is sad to watch PC GPU's with some much power be locked up in chains due to MS not allowing developers do what they want.

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#37 Shewgenja
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@mrxboxone said:

@Shewgenja said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

@Shewgenja: this isn't bad news for xbox as you said....its called competition, I hope xbox gets their act together as far as graphics go because that will only make Sony work that much harder to out-do them. How old are you? You sound very childish. But thanks for the news.

Ah, I'm just being playfully sarcastic. I figured I'd get attacked by the Lems for making this thread after the recent bout of bad news, but you must admit that it's really funny that the one and only PS4 secret sauce thread becomes a lightning rod after almost a full year of cloud hype, discreet gpu sith magic and DX12 Secret Sauce being perpetually puked onto this forum like the acidic bile of an insect swarm hoping that something will stick.

The Jimmies Have Been Rustled. TJHBR.

A lightning rod? Its just sony saying they might try to do it. However Microsoft showed off demonstrations of DX12 and the mass improvements and cloud processing. PS4 fans are scared.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they have shown exactly jack squat running on the XBone, yes?

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@Shewgenja said:

@mrxboxone said:

@Shewgenja said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

@Shewgenja: this isn't bad news for xbox as you said....its called competition, I hope xbox gets their act together as far as graphics go because that will only make Sony work that much harder to out-do them. How old are you? You sound very childish. But thanks for the news.

Ah, I'm just being playfully sarcastic. I figured I'd get attacked by the Lems for making this thread after the recent bout of bad news, but you must admit that it's really funny that the one and only PS4 secret sauce thread becomes a lightning rod after almost a full year of cloud hype, discreet gpu sith magic and DX12 Secret Sauce being perpetually puked onto this forum like the acidic bile of an insect swarm hoping that something will stick.

The Jimmies Have Been Rustled. TJHBR.

A lightning rod? Its just sony saying they might try to do it. However Microsoft showed off demonstrations of DX12 and the mass improvements and cloud processing. PS4 fans are scared.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they have shown exactly jack squat running on the XBone, yes?

correct me If I'm wrong but they've shown exactly jack squat running on the ps4 yet the job listing for a SINGLE engineer via a Sony bias site mean's that the ps4 factually will now have low level down to the metal hardware coding for games?

lol shew you are such a rampant moron, but I do like the professional victim cowardice you are trying to claim bubububububbububububbubububu they have been saying this and when I say this they get all on my case they are jimmy rustle.

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and this is why PC gaming has sucked so much, because of greedy monopoly companies like Microsoft who lock the potential of our monstrous gpu's.

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#40 Shewgenja
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@WilliamRLBaker said:

@Shewgenja said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they have shown exactly jack squat running on the XBone, yes?

correct me If I'm wrong but they've shown exactly jack squat running on the ps4 yet the job listing for a SINGLE engineer via a Sony bias site mean's that the ps4 factually will now have low level down to the metal hardware coding for games?

lol shew you are such a rampant moron, but I do like the professional victim cowardice you are trying to claim bubububububbububububbubububu they have been saying this and when I say this they get all on my case they are jimmy rustle.

Just making sure I was right. Thank you for the verification.

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Fanboys are stupid....

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#42 Shewgenja
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@navyguy21 said:

Fanboys are stupid....

Very much so.

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@naz99 said:

Congrats you owned them Xbox fanboys by sounding like an utter Ps fanboy........

System wars at it's finest here!

LOL....how ironic.

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#44  Edited By Shewgenja
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@LJS9502_basic said:

@naz99 said:

Congrats you owned them Xbox fanboys by sounding like an utter Ps fanboy........

System wars at it's finest here!

LOL....how ironic.

Shhh, they haven't caught on, yet. You'll ruin the joke.

Remember, to be a pantheon of unbiased gaming purity, you must defend to the death the unlockable potential of the XBone while calling anyone who shows actual proof of concept that PS4 is in the same boat a windowlicking fanboy. Cuz, that's how it's done. You don't want to be labeled a Sony fanboy do you?

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@Evo_nine said:

lol so sony hasn't even started development of a dx12 alternative and somehow Microsoft have been owned?

they haven't even got a team together to start the process! lol

all this article shows is that sony cant innovate, has shit itself on what dx12 can do and now has to copy everything Microsoft does.

What.?

LibGNM is like mantle what MS is basically aiming for,the PS4 have tools which are lower level that your average DX,which is what MS is chasing now with DX12,but wait those tools were also on PS3 for years,while MS DX version on 360 was lower than PC but not quite as low as the PS3..

Sony is copying sh** from MS,and the article is a little misleading.

@blackace said:

@Shewgenja: Unfortunately the CPU in XB1 was specifically customized to work with DX12. the CPU in the PS4 isn't the same and won't work the same. It'll be interesting to see what Sony can do with it.

Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.........Total and utter bullsh**...lol

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@RR360DD said:

And STILL sony is following in MSs footsteps LOL

When will they innovate?

I thought DirectX12 wasn't going to help the Xbox One according to the PS4 fans. But now that Sony is playing catch up, it's important now, wow that's why some PS4 fans are the worse.

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....

My god you people are silly is a job listing and probably isn't for the sdk it could be for a game..

@WilliamRLBaker said:

correct me If I'm wrong but they've shown exactly jack squat running on the ps4 yet the job listing for a SINGLE engineer via a Sony bias site mean's that the ps4 factually will now have low level down to the metal hardware coding for games?

lol shew you are such a rampant moron, but I do like the professional victim cowardice you are trying to claim bubububububbububububbubububu they have been saying this and when I say this they get all on my case they are jimmy rustle.

The PS4 already has a low level APi which work like mantle what the hell man is call LibGNM..Is much lower than DX.

My god you really know nothing...

By the way we miss you on the NPD thread..haaha

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A job application really?

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@Shewgenja said:

Sony Working on Improving Multithreading and Parallel Processing for PS4 and PS3

by Giuseppe Nelva on April 18, 2014 4:26 PM 325@abriael

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Microsoft’s introduction of DirectX 12 has impressed many especially due to the ability to massively improve the multithreading efficiency of the CPU, which will apply to both PCs and Xbox One, but apparently Sony isn’t staying idle, and is working to improve pretty much the same areas on its consoles, as shown by a career opportunity ad seeking a Senior Software Systems Engineer.

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SCEA is currently looking for a highly-talented Systems Engineer to act as an industry expert and leader in systems level development on PlayStation® platforms. This individual should be able to handle various low-level multithreading and SIMD issues and be able to use that knowledge to collaborate with industry-leading developers. If you are driven to do hands-on low-level research on cutting-edge hardware, are well-versed in engine design and architecture and are looking to use your knowledge to drive the industry and make an impact on multiple game titles, then we want to talk to you.

Qualifications

Required Educations / Experience:

  • A minimum of 3 years programming experience in C/C++
  • Experience working on the low-level platform specific layer of a game engine
  • Experience using CPU profiling tools to measure game performance, identify bottlenecks and resolve them
  • Understanding of various game engine optimization algorithms/techniques
  • Understanding of multi-core processors such as SPUs
  • Strong understanding of 3D math
  • Bachelor’s degree in Computer Science or equivalent
  • Keeps current on the latest trends in multithreading and multi-core programming techniques

Experience with the following a plus:

  • Shipped at least 1 game on current generation platforms
  • Experience implementing real-time algorithms and techniques using hardware features to perform parallel computation
  • Assembly level programming experience on current generation platforms
  • Experience in tool development (asset pipeline, exporters, etc.)
  • Experience working in a support environment
  • Knowledge of SPU coding and optimization
  • Understanding of GPGPU programming and Shaders
  • Low-level understanding of DMA
  • Experience with low level audio systems
  • Experience with asynchronous file systems

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The competences listed are definitely interesting, as they describe a candidate able to have a very solid impact on the performance of games at a very low level, working directly on the engine or even deeper. The goal of improving multithreading (the ability to use all the cores of the CPU efficiently) and SIMD (parallel computation of the same operation on multiple data points) is very similar to the effect that will be achieved by DirectX 12.

What’s interesting is that while the ad definitely indicates application on PS4 due to the mention of GPGPU (General-purpose computing on graphics processing units) and cutting-edge hardware, it seems that the candidate will also work on PS3, which is the only console using SPUs (Synergistic Processing Unit). Looks like Sony’s veteran console hasn’t yet given all it could.

It’ll be interesting to see what kind of effect this kind of optimization will bring to PlayStation platforms, even if most probably we won’t even notice. The games will be faster and better, but we won’t know that the improvement will be due to the work of people like the one that will get this job. Engineers are definitely the unsung heroes of the video game industry.

Where is your god, now?

The bad news doesn't seem to end for the XBox. Thankfully, no one has been absurd enough to make 2x power claims yet, but what is clear is that the gap between PS4 and XBone isn't going to be closed with DX12. Better luck next-gen.

So lems got owned because Sony had to go hire smarter developers to match the ones that M$, AMD, and Nvidia already have that are already doing this.

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@Shewgenja said:

If you are driven to do hands-on low-level research on cutting-edge hardware,

They must be talking about the Playstation 5 then...

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@tormentos said:

@Evo_nine said:

lol so sony hasn't even started development of a dx12 alternative and somehow Microsoft have been owned?

they haven't even got a team together to start the process! lol

all this article shows is that sony cant innovate, has shit itself on what dx12 can do and now has to copy everything Microsoft does.

What.?

LibGNM is like mantle what MS is basically aiming for,the PS4 have tools which are lower level that your average DX,which is what MS is chasing now with DX12,but wait those tools were also on PS3 for years,while MS DX version on 360 was lower than PC but not quite as low as the PS3..

Sony is copying sh** from MS,and the article is a little misleading.

@blackace said:

@Shewgenja: Unfortunately the CPU in XB1 was specifically customized to work with DX12. the CPU in the PS4 isn't the same and won't work the same. It'll be interesting to see what Sony can do with it.

Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.........Total and utter bullsh**...lol

@GravityX said:

@RR360DD said:

And STILL sony is following in MSs footsteps LOL

When will they innovate?

I thought DirectX12 wasn't going to help the Xbox One according to the PS4 fans. But now that Sony is playing catch up, it's important now, wow that's why some PS4 fans are the worse.

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....

My god you people are silly is a job listing and probably isn't for the sdk it could be for a game..

@WilliamRLBaker said:

correct me If I'm wrong but they've shown exactly jack squat running on the ps4 yet the job listing for a SINGLE engineer via a Sony bias site mean's that the ps4 factually will now have low level down to the metal hardware coding for games?

lol shew you are such a rampant moron, but I do like the professional victim cowardice you are trying to claim bubububububbububububbubububu they have been saying this and when I say this they get all on my case they are jimmy rustle.

The PS4 already has a low level APi which work like mantle what the hell man is call LibGNM..Is much lower than DX.

My god you really know nothing...

By the way we miss you on the NPD thread..haaha

lol wiliamlrbaker ignoring the NPD thead

hhahahahahah

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lol seems like they are still trying to figure out the ingredients OP backfire.