Does Wii U need Super Mario Galaxy 3 badly?

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#51 locopatho
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@93BlackHawk93 said:

@locopatho: At Mario "meowing" at you.

Read my edited post.

Imitating animal noises is something children do. I didn't need my game character doing it every few minutes, direct to the screen. I don't understand how that is "taking it too seriously". Annoying things are annoying.

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#52  Edited By 93BlackHawk93
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@locopatho said:

@93BlackHawk93 said:

@locopatho: At Mario "meowing" at you.

Read my edited post.

Imitating animal noises is something children do. I didn't need my game character doing it every few minutes, direct to the screen. I don't understand how that is "taking it too seriously". Annoying things are annoying.

Almost anything Mario says/yells is something a child would.

Having an argument about silliness in a Mario game is ridiculous in itself, but whatevs.

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#53 Litchie
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I would totally welcome a new Mario game. 3D World was indeed a bit lame. Can't really remember any stage from the game, and it wasn't very long ago I played it.

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#54 nintendoboy16
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@93BlackHawk93 said:

Almost anything Mario says/yells is something a child would.

Having an argument about silliness in a Mario game is ridiculous in itself, but whatevs.

Honestly, it's like criticizing Calvin and Hobbes just because the former character acts like a kid.

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#55 locopatho
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@nintendoboy16 said:

@93BlackHawk93 said:

Almost anything Mario says/yells is something a child would.

Having an argument about silliness in a Mario game is ridiculous in itself, but whatevs.

Honestly, it's like criticizing Calvin and Hobbes just because the former character acts like a kid.

Nah. That's nonsense. Calvin is known for being precocious and intelligent, despite being a young child.

Mario meowing at me a hundred and fifty times was just pointless. Glad you enjoyed it though.

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#56 nintendoboy16
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@locopatho said:
@nintendoboy16 said:
@93BlackHawk93 said:

Almost anything Mario says/yells is something a child would.

Having an argument about silliness in a Mario game is ridiculous in itself, but whatevs.

Honestly, it's like criticizing Calvin and Hobbes just because the former character acts like a kid.

Nah. That's nonsense. Calvin is known for being precocious and intelligent, despite being a young child.

At the same time, he still has the traits of a child. Like pulling pranks on other kids (namely Susie) and refusing to take baths.

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#57 locopatho
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@nintendoboy16 said:

@locopatho said:
@nintendoboy16 said:
@93BlackHawk93 said:

Almost anything Mario says/yells is something a child would.

Having an argument about silliness in a Mario game is ridiculous in itself, but whatevs.

Honestly, it's like criticizing Calvin and Hobbes just because the former character acts like a kid.

Nah. That's nonsense. Calvin is known for being precocious and intelligent, despite being a young child.

At the same time, he still has the traits of a child. Like pulling pranks on other kids (namely Susie) and refusing to take baths.

Awesome.

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#58 nintendoboy16
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@locopatho said:

Awesome.

Btw (since you posted before I could edit), I never played 3D World yet. But when I was watching gameplay vids and hearing him say "meow", I just shrugged it off.

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#59 locopatho
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@nintendoboy16 said:

@locopatho said:

Awesome.

Btw (since you posted before I could edit), I never played 3D World yet. But when I was watching gameplay vids and hearing him say "meow", I just shrugged it off.

You may feel differently after hearing it 150 times :P

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#60  Edited By bunchanumbers
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@locopatho said:

@nintendoboy16 said:

@locopatho said:

Awesome.

Btw (since you posted before I could edit), I never played 3D World yet. But when I was watching gameplay vids and hearing him say "meow", I just shrugged it off.

You may feel differently after hearing it 150 times :P

Then don't use the power up. I liked to go True OG without the powerups.

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#61  Edited By locopatho
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@bunchanumbers said:

@locopatho said:

@nintendoboy16 said:

@locopatho said:

Awesome.

Btw (since you posted before I could edit), I never played 3D World yet. But when I was watching gameplay vids and hearing him say "meow", I just shrugged it off.

You may feel differently after hearing it 150 times :P

Then don't use the power up. I liked to go True OG without the powerups.

Yeah but many collectables require the cat suit. I wasn't missing them either :P

Honestly, it wasn't that big a deal at all. Just a minor annoyance. I'mma shut the hell up about it now!

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Not at all. I found the first to be boring after 20 stars and I didnt even bother with 2nd game.

Yeah I understand why it was boring for you, it wasn't on the PS 3

Wouldn't of played it there either just like I never played Ni No Kunmi despite the score.

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#63 Pikminmaniac
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No, it already has 5 games that are Mario Galaxy+ quality including 3D World.

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#64 SolidGame_basic  Online
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@Heil68 said:

@babycakin said:

@Heil68 said:

Not at all. I found the first to be boring after 20 stars and I didnt even bother with 2nd game.

Yeah I understand why it was boring for you, it wasn't on the PS 3

Wouldn't of played it there either just like I never played Ni No Kunmi despite the score.

ni no kuni is great, it would touch your soul

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#65  Edited By jun_aka_pekto
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I'm still waiting for that high-tech Zelda. That would be the breakthrough game for me.

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#66 Pikminmaniac
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@SolidGame_basic said:

@Heil68 said:

@babycakin said:

@Heil68 said:

Not at all. I found the first to be boring after 20 stars and I didnt even bother with 2nd game.

Yeah I understand why it was boring for you, it wasn't on the PS 3

Wouldn't of played it there either just like I never played Ni No Kunmi despite the score.

ni no kuni is great, it would touch your soul

I couldn't get into it because of that sloppy battle system myself. Everything else was great, but the combat killed it for me even before they gave me dumb AI partners to deal with.

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#67 Heil68
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@SolidGame_basic said:

@Heil68 said:

@babycakin said:

@Heil68 said:

Not at all. I found the first to be boring after 20 stars and I didnt even bother with 2nd game.

Yeah I understand why it was boring for you, it wasn't on the PS 3

Wouldn't of played it there either just like I never played Ni No Kunmi despite the score.

ni no kuni is great, it would touch your soul

Maybe..I tried the demo and it didnt stick with me. I didnt like the battle system.

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I would prefer a new Mario Sunshine and a New Luigi's Mansion

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3D World was outstanding. It wasn't exactly SMG2, but what game really is?

And I'll never get the beef with the cat suit, it was an awesome power up.

The game uses and abuses it. It's almost like it's the only power up in the game, and it's not. There should have been more clone shit or some of the other stuff. Like Galaxy 2 didn't abuse yoshi, the spring, the drill, the cloud, the bees. It kept it fresh and going. 3D World the Cat Suit felt like it was the way to go the vast majority of the time, and it gets boring. Like all it's there for is reach high point to find green star. There is no like mastery to getting that star, it's just satisfying your inner aspie to look around and pointless shit.

Good game, but that overuse on the catsuit, the not so tight controls, the iffy camera put it a good notch or 2 behind Galaxy 2. **** I would argue it wasn't even the best platformer of 2013, much less up to snuff with Galaxy 2.

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#71 dotWithShoes
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Haven't ever played the WiiU's Super Mario, but I don't think the Galaxy series is any sort of savior. Neither game sold exceptionally compared to the top selling Wii Games. Not that I think it's a mistake to release new (and preferably fresh) Mario games as they still sell well over time. I just don't think there is much clamor for a Galaxy 3. Certainly not enough to declare it a "need".

12.2 million isn't well? it was in the top 10 sellers for the Wii.

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#72  Edited By Shinobishyguy
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Are we still stuck in this "3d world isn't a true 3d mario game" bullshit line of thinking?

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#73 nintendoboy16
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@santoron said:

Haven't ever played the WiiU's Super Mario, but I don't think the Galaxy series is any sort of savior. Neither game sold exceptionally compared to the top selling Wii Games. Not that I think it's a mistake to release new (and preferably fresh) Mario games as they still sell well over time. I just don't think there is much clamor for a Galaxy 3. Certainly not enough to declare it a "need".

12.2 million isn't well? it was in the top 10 sellers for the Wii.

Galaxy 2 did NOT sell that high. NSMB Wii did.

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@nintendoboy16: Galaxy 1 sold that high. Galaxy 2 sold 7 million. NSMBWii sold around 30 million and **** it, nothing is ever reaching those numbers again.

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#75 sonic_spark
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Not necessarily Galaxy 3, but a proper 3D Mario platformer it does need.

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#76  Edited By funsohng
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@sonic_spark said:

Not necessarily Galaxy 3, but a proper 3D Mario platformer it does need.

3D World was not?

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@funsohng said:

@sonic_spark said:

Not necessarily Galaxy 3, but a proper 3D Mario platformer it does need.

3D World was not?

No. It's not in the same vain as Mario 64, Sunshine and Galaxy1/2.

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#78 funsohng
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@sonic_spark: no, they weren't similar, but I still liked the direction they took.

In fact, I appreciate that they went ahead and changed the formula.

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@SolidGame_basic: When will the PS4 get any games?

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@Heil68 said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

@Heil68 said:

@babycakin said:

@Heil68 said:

Not at all. I found the first to be boring after 20 stars and I didnt even bother with 2nd game.

Yeah I understand why it was boring for you, it wasn't on the PS 3

Wouldn't of played it there either just like I never played Ni No Kunmi despite the score.

ni no kuni is great, it would touch your soul

Maybe..I tried the demo and it didnt stick with me. I didnt like the battle system.

I've always wanted to try that game but now that ya'll are criticizing the battle system, might have to just pass.

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#81 Demonjoe93
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Let Galaxy die. I'd rather Nintendo do something different with the 3D Mario games, or make something different since we aleady have a 2D and 3D Mario game on the Wii-U.

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@funsohng said:

@sonic_spark said:

Not necessarily Galaxy 3, but a proper 3D Mario platformer it does need.

3D World was not?

It's more like an awkward hermaphrodite of 2d and 3d. Different from the status quo, so automatically not uninspired dog shit that is the new super mario bros games, but it's got some awkward elements to it also. Good game though, way the **** better than Super Mario Easy Land.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

@dotWithShoes said:
@santoron said:

Haven't ever played the WiiU's Super Mario, but I don't think the Galaxy series is any sort of savior. Neither game sold exceptionally compared to the top selling Wii Games. Not that I think it's a mistake to release new (and preferably fresh) Mario games as they still sell well over time. I just don't think there is much clamor for a Galaxy 3. Certainly not enough to declare it a "need".

12.2 million isn't well? it was in the top 10 sellers for the Wii.

Galaxy 2 did NOT sell that high. NSMB Wii did.

I never said Galaxy 2 did, it sold around 6 million. Galaxy 1 however, did sell over 12 million. And since you mentioned NSMB Wii, that was over 28 million. Don't cite numbers if you don't know them.

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@dotWithShoes said:

I never said Galaxy 2 did, it sold around 6 million. Galaxy 1 however, did sell over 12 million. And since you mentioned NSMB Wii, that was over 28 million. Don't cite numbers if you don't know them.

Okay, I was way off on NSMB's sales, but still, just because Mario Galaxy 1 sold that high doesn't mean the sequel did.

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The WiiU needs a hardware upgrade "badly"..

The WiiU is finished in these streets. There's no "saving it".. They literally lost their foothold within a 6 months of the other platforms launching. No 3rd party support and No competent online gaming.. Stick a fork in it.

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I don't understand how the catsuit is overpowered when most of the later levels have flat floating platforms that you can't climb up. If anything the tanooki suit is overpowered

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#88  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@OhSnapitz said:

The WiiU needs a hardware upgrade "badly"..

The WiiU is finished in these streets. There's no "saving it".. They literally lost their foothold within a 6 months of the other platforms launching. No 3rd party support and No competent online gaming.. Stick a fork in it.

What, do you actually LIKE the idea of Nintendo alienating their audiences even more?

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Best served alone. Said as someone without friends TC.

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@scottpsfan14 said:

@jg4xchamp said:

@funsohng said:

@sonic_spark said:

Not necessarily Galaxy 3, but a proper 3D Mario platformer it does need.

3D World was not?

It's more like an awkward hermaphrodite of 2d and 3d. Different from the status quo, so automatically not uninspired dog shit that is the new super mario bros games, but it's got some awkward elements to it also. Good game though, way the **** better than Super Mario Easy Land.

Yes exactly. It also lacks a concept like the Galaxy games. It lacks exploration which became one of 3D Marios strong points. It's as you say, an arkward 2D/3D hybrid.

I do think the WiiU needs a full scale 3D Mario game continuing the 64, Sunshine and Galaxy line. 3D World branches off slightly imo. Almost 2.5D.

I liked it specifically because it was like 2D games; it was no longer exploration-platformer, but a pure platfomer in 3D.

Considering how most 3D platformers had to sacrifice that feel of a pure platformer because of the perspective, I like the fact 3D Land (and World) went ahead and proposed a new direction.

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#92 Catalli  Moderator
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With the lineup the Wii U has coming, no, it doesn't need a Galaxy 3. I would absolutely love to see it though, or Sunshine 2

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#93 CitizenCold23
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No, I don't think it's necessary. I wouldn't mind a sequel, as I loved Galaxy 1 and 2, but I would rather see something new or a sequel to Sunshine.

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#94  Edited By Shinobishyguy
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@scottpsfan14: bullshit

Take away the gravity and the galaxy games are just as linear as 3d world. Only difference is one has a flagpole at the end if a stage and one has a star

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@inb4uall said:

Best served alone. Said as someone without friends TC.

aren't you best friends with lostrib?

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@farrell2k said:

3D world was the best Mario game I have played in years. I have not yet played the galaxy games, so I can't comment on them, but to answer your question, yes, Nintendo needs all the games it can put out.

I think 3D World will help be a system seller for Nintendo this holiday.

If you ever decide to play them, i highly recommend you start with the first one, and treat them both as one giant interconnected game. Rosalina's debut in Super Mario Galaxy is breath taking and should never be missed, the entire game is actually quite cinematic in its presentation, more so than people could probably imagine unless they completed it. Probably the best story designed and told in a Mario platformer.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

@inb4uall said:

Best served alone. Said as someone without friends TC.

aren't you best friends with lostrib?

Proudly. Inb4 you say something nasty about him. He's a far better person than you will ever be.

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@nintendoboy16: If it means Nintendo going bankrupt so Mario ends up being on PS4, I guess so. /s

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@inb4uall: good. I wish you two the best in your NC quest