Do consolites really think that PC gaming lacks diversity?

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#501 Posted by ZombieKiller7 (6234 posts) -

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

As a whole, PC gaming is growing. There's plenty of proof in this thread already posted.

lundy86_4

Baloney. Show proof.

Refer to my reply to you above. I've shown you two links regarding growth in the PC gaming market.

You said goodbye, so piss off troll.

#502 Posted by Rocker6 (13358 posts) -

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

As a whole, PC gaming is growing. There's plenty of proof in this thread already posted.

ZombieKiller7

Baloney. Show proof.

I just said we have no way to know the exact number of DD copies sold, which is entirely true. Also, on consoles, cuts are much larger than %30.

Does PC have large publishing fees you have to pay to Sony and MS?

Do Sony or MS take a cut from every PC game sale, like they do with PS3 and 360 sale?

No, on the PC, there is only the Steam, or the retailer, so in the end, pubs get more revenue, and are also able to discount their games on the PC more quickly...

And what are you saying, indie developers have minimal chance for their products to become succesful on consoles, due to all the restrictions from console vendors. Their chances are much better on the PC, due to the open nature of the platform, which is the reason why the PC has the largest indie scene in the industry...

Rocker6

All of the above is actually proving the OPPOSITE.

That console development commands a premium price.

And still devs trip all over themselves to go console, because they knew where the sales is at.

This is the gen of the multiplats, due to high development costs, most devs do their best to expand themselves to as much platforms as possible, to widen the install base...

That has nothing to do with the decline of PC gaming, also don't forget, PC has no first-party, no one pays the PC orriented developers to keep their games exclusive on the PC...

#503 Posted by lundy86_4 (42805 posts) -

Facebook and WoW

You talk alot and say nothing.

ZombieKiller7

WoW has actually been declining in terms of total users.

Your points don't provide any proof.

Your typical points provide no evidence, just like this one, and when you do, it's typically irrelevant to the topic at hand :lol: Idiot.

#504 Posted by lundy86_4 (42805 posts) -

You said goodbye, so piss off troll.

ZombieKiller7

:lol:

Nah, I think everybody would prefer you to p*ss off first.

Does it hurt when I prove you wrong? Does it make you want to just sit down and cry?

#505 Posted by ZombieKiller7 (6234 posts) -

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Nanomage"] He always does that,avoiding the facts and cherry picking small bits when the whole picture tells adiferent story,everyone but him here can see how flamboyantly he dodges almost every single argumeny where he gets owned,but I love when even after getting owned left and right he still claims victory,it´s hilarious! :lol:Rocker6

Yes Iowe stops getting responses and then as if by magic zombiekiller turns up in the thread with a similar MO, never seen that in a PC thread before! :P

Nah, no way they're the same person...

Lowe only hunts down the "elitists", he never actually bashes the PC as a platform, or comes up with "PC gaming is dead/on life support" crap...

I'll stop crapping on your threads when you stop pulling false statements out of your ass as fact.

Not lying = you hate PC gaming

Right

#506 Posted by Rocker6 (13358 posts) -

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Yes Iowe stops getting responses and then as if by magic zombiekiller turns up in the thread with a similar MO, never seen that in a PC thread before! :PZombieKiller7

Nah, no way they're the same person...

Lowe only hunts down the "elitists", he never actually bashes the PC as a platform, or comes up with "PC gaming is dead/on life support" crap...

I'll stop crapping on your threads when you stop pulling false statements out of your ass as fact.

Not lying = you hate PC gaming

Right

Crap on as much threads as you want, not my problem...

And who's lying?

You've been given enough proof, yet you just dance around it...

But it's getting late, and I'm starting to lose my patience. Bye!

#507 Posted by EvanTheGamer (1121 posts) -

[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

In the last month alone has amassed almost double the AAE+ exclusives than both the 360 and PS3 COMBINED so far this year and had a AAAE which neither the 360 nor PS3 has managed in 2012.

Of these games theres been:

1 RPG (AAE) Torchlight 2

1 Simulation (AAE) FTL

1 MMORPG (AAAE!) Guild Wars 2

So when 1 month of PC = more than 3 times your favourite console's offerings of the entire year so far, each in a different genre, how can you argue the PC is dying, that it offers no diversity and that console gaming offers a better experience?

lundy86_4

Never seen these genres on PC, nope not once, it makes gamers care a whole lot.

Ooooooh, you know you have no argument when that is what you resort to :lol:

topic is about diversity and PC Gaming

PC Gaming has no diversity

lol PChildren

#508 Posted by lundy86_4 (42805 posts) -

topic is about diversity and PC Gaming

PC Gaming has no diversity

lol PChildren

EvanTheGamer

That's the definition of diversity. Diversity does not imply a set number in variety. Nice try :lol:

#509 Posted by ZombieKiller7 (6234 posts) -

This is the gen of the multiplats, due to high development costs, most devs do their best to expand themselves to as much platforms as possible, to widen the install base...

That has nothing to do with the decline of PC gaming, also don't forget, PC has no first-party, no one pays the PC orriented developers to keep their games exclusive on the PC...

Rocker6

Decline of PC gaming is threefold.

1. Cheap common appliances that require no assembly or maintenance to play almost any game worth playing

2. The proliferation of cheap HDTV's

3. The advancement of electronics to the point where you can get staggering performance in small packages

The trend toward ever smaller devices will continue.

#510 Posted by ZombieKiller7 (6234 posts) -

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

You said goodbye, so piss off troll.

lundy86_4

:lol:

Nah, I think everybody would prefer you to p*ss off first.

Does it hurt when I prove you wrong? Does it make you want to just sit down and cry?

Beg more

Show proof.

You give me articles about "Zynga made XYZ billions" I'm not interested in how many people are playing Farmville you chode.

#511 Posted by lundy86_4 (42805 posts) -

Beg more

Show proof.

You give me articles about "Zynga made XYZ billions" I'm not interested in how many people are playing Farmville you chode.

ZombieKiller7

No, the article I gave you strictly outlines the entire PC market growth and denotes reasoning as to what areas are helping in the growth. Don't like it? Shut the f*ck up you dimwitted buffoon because we literally took a dump all over your argument :lol:

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Zombie floundering in an argument, I love it so much :lol:

#512 Posted by Jankarcop (8893 posts) -

Well I guess the thread title has been answered. Sadly Yes, even though it goes against the facts and pc has more diversity than all 3 consoles according to this very site.

#513 Posted by CaseyWegner (70104 posts) -

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

Beg more

Show proof.

You give me articles about "Zynga made XYZ billions" I'm not interested in how many people are playing Farmville you chode.

lundy86_4

No, the article I gave you strictly outlines the entire PC market growth and denotes reasoning as to what areas are helping in the growth. Don't like it? Shut the f*ck up you dimwitted buffoon because we literally took a dump all over your argument :lol:

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Zombie floundering in an argument, I love it so much :lol:

everybody can see it. you should just walk away with your head held high instead of repeatedly trying to convince somebody that will never give in.

#514 Posted by lundy86_4 (42805 posts) -

everybody can see it. you should just walk away with your head held high instead of repeatedly trying to convince somebody that will never give in.

CaseyWegner

It's just more fun this way. They think the trolling gets to you, but it's literally that they're just way too funny to leave alone. It's like reverse trolling.

#515 Posted by AmazingGaming (350 posts) -
PC has massive genre diversity, however it tends to lack Japanese games/developers which can be a really big change of pace from Western games. In that way, consoles can seem to have more diversity.
#516 Posted by CaseyWegner (70104 posts) -

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

everybody can see it. you should just walk away with your head held high instead of repeatedly trying to convince somebody that will never give in.

lundy86_4

It's just more fun this way. They think the trolling gets to you, but it's literally that they're just way too funny to leave alone. It's like reverse trolling.

i can certainly identify with that but i tend to lose interest after a while.

#517 Posted by ZombieKiller7 (6234 posts) -

No, the article I gave you strictly outlines the entire PC market growth and denotes reasoning as to what areas are helping in the growth. Don't like it? Shut the f*ck up you dimwitted buffoon because we literally took a dump all over your argument :lol:

lundy86_4

Facebook, WoW, F2P = "the growth of PC gaming" lol

You are a "we" now? Or just taking shelter in the herd.

#518 Posted by lundy86_4 (42805 posts) -

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

everybody can see it. you should just walk away with your head held high instead of repeatedly trying to convince somebody that will never give in.

CaseyWegner

It's just more fun this way. They think the trolling gets to you, but it's literally that they're just way too funny to leave alone. It's like reverse trolling.

i can certainly identify with that but i tend to lose interest after a while.

It will no doubt come :P

Especially because i'm watching Homeland.

#519 Posted by EvanTheGamer (1121 posts) -

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

No, the article I gave you strictly outlines the entire PC market growth and denotes reasoning as to what areas are helping in the growth. Don't like it? Shut the f*ck up you dimwitted buffoon because we literally took a dump all over your argument :lol:

ZombieKiller7

Facebook, WoW, F2P = "the growth of PC gaming" lol

You are a "we" now? Or just taking shelter in the herd.

Hey now League of Legends and Dota 2 are fun F2P games.

But yea PC Gaming is dead.

Blizzard and Valve, any new games guys? Nope

Dead.

#520 Posted by lundy86_4 (42805 posts) -

Facebook, WoW, F2P = "the growth of PC gaming" lol

You are a "we" now? Or just taking shelter in the herd.

ZombieKiller7

Not the only growth, just the growth noted within the article.

"We", as in more than just me. Numerous others have provided evidence to refute your claims. Are you acting dumb on purpose, or to attempt to give you leverage in a debate?

#521 Posted by GamerwillzPS (8530 posts) -

You guys keep feeding the troll? Just ignore ZombieKiller7. He's a confirmed troll.

#522 Posted by clyde46 (43957 posts) -

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

No, the article I gave you strictly outlines the entire PC market growth and denotes reasoning as to what areas are helping in the growth. Don't like it? Shut the f*ck up you dimwitted buffoon because we literally took a dump all over your argument :lol:

EvanTheGamer

Facebook, WoW, F2P = "the growth of PC gaming" lol

You are a "we" now? Or just taking shelter in the herd.

Hey now League of Legends and Dota 2 are fun F2P games.

But yea PC Gaming is dead.

Blizzard and Valve, any new games guys? Nope

Dead.

Oh wow
#523 Posted by EvanTheGamer (1121 posts) -

Is it picture time or something?^

Get that kid out of here.

#524 Posted by lundy86_4 (42805 posts) -

Is it picture time or something?^

Get that kid out of here.

EvanTheGamer

It's accurate.

#525 Posted by clyde46 (43957 posts) -

Is it picture time or something?^

Get that kid out of here.

EvanTheGamer
You've yet to bring compelling evidence to back up your claims, plus your claims are old and have been debunked many times over.
#526 Posted by Monkey_N1nga (594 posts) -
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Monkey_N1nga"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] You're why this thread was made :lol:

what did I say? Didnt you make it to make yourself feel better? Im not sure why else you would make it

Because morons on SW say stuff like "go play your WoW"

how does me saying "go play your WoW" have anything to do with lack diversity. It is simply a joke and everyone should know now that that statement is extremely stereotypical
#527 Posted by Bebi_vegeta (13558 posts) -

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

Never seen these genres on PC, nope not once, it makes gamers care a whole lot.

EvanTheGamer

Ooooooh, you know you have no argument when that is what you resort to :lol:

topic is about diversity and PC Gaming

PC Gaming has no diversity

lol PChildren

Really ? You must know anything about PC gaming.

#528 Posted by ZombieKiller7 (6234 posts) -

Not the only growth, just the growth noted within the article.

"We", as in more than just me. Numerous others have provided evidence to refute your claims. Are you acting dumb on purpose, or to attempt to give you leverage in a debate?

lundy86_4

Cite growth other than Browser, MMO, F2P.

#529 Posted by TrooperManaic (3726 posts) -

[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Ooooooh, you know you have no argument when that is what you resort to :lol:

Bebi_vegeta

topic is about diversity and PC Gaming

PC Gaming has no diversity

lol PChildren

Really ? You must know anything about PC gaming.

Dun worry, its probably coming from a child itself. I been around gaming since 1990 and I gotta say, realizing what is out there PC has ALLOT more diversity. PC actually has hundereds of thousands more exclusives then all the consoles together, its just that people tend to ignore them "even know they are extremly fun games" for the AAA titles.

#530 Posted by ZombieKiller7 (6234 posts) -

You guys keep feeding the troll? Just ignore ZombieKiller7. He's a confirmed troll.

GamerwillzPS

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#531 Posted by lundy86_4 (42805 posts) -

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Not the only growth, just the growth noted within the article.

"We", as in more than just me. Numerous others have provided evidence to refute your claims. Are you acting dumb on purpose, or to attempt to give you leverage in a debate?

ZombieKiller7

Cite growth other than Browser, MMO, F2P.

Sorry, all I heard was:

"Let me add the asinine arbitrary stipulations, so that I might possibly win." :lol:

Not gonna happen, bro. You lost the argument. Take a walk. There are no re-do's.

#532 Posted by clyde46 (43957 posts) -
Sooo, in this weeks PC Gamer you can get early access to the Beta of Mechwarrior Online :D
#533 Posted by ZombieKiller7 (6234 posts) -

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Not the only growth, just the growth noted within the article.

"We", as in more than just me. Numerous others have provided evidence to refute your claims. Are you acting dumb on purpose, or to attempt to give you leverage in a debate?

lundy86_4

Cite growth other than Browser, MMO, F2P.

Sorry, all I heard was:

"Let me add the asinine arbitrary stipulations, so that I might possibly win." :lol:

Not gonna happen, bro. You lost the argument. Take a walk. There are no re-do's.

See bold

#534 Posted by lawlessx (46410 posts) -
Sooo, in this weeks PC Gamer you can get early access to the Beta of Mechwarrior Online :Dclyde46
you sure? looking at my issue right now..don't see anything that says beta access.
#535 Posted by clyde46 (43957 posts) -
[QUOTE="clyde46"]Sooo, in this weeks PC Gamer you can get early access to the Beta of Mechwarrior Online :Dlawlessx
you sure? looking at my issue right now..don't see anything that says beta access.

Does it have MW:O on the cover?
#536 Posted by lundy86_4 (42805 posts) -

See bold

ZombieKiller7

Noted, and here's me giving a sh*t:











Look carefully, did you see anything?

The article also notes big-budget releases.

#537 Posted by wis3boi (31004 posts) -

Is it picture time or something?^

Get that kid out of here.

EvanTheGamer

when the text in a jpg is the same thing any of us would write in a post, it works and it's more fun.

#538 Posted by Masenkoe (4888 posts) -

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Not the only growth, just the growth noted within the article.

"We", as in more than just me. Numerous others have provided evidence to refute your claims. Are you acting dumb on purpose, or to attempt to give you leverage in a debate?

ZombieKiller7

Cite growth other than Browser, MMO, F2P.

Steam sales increase 100 percent for the seventh straight year

#539 Posted by DrTrafalgarLaw (4440 posts) -

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

PC gaming doesn't lack diversity, it lacks the community for games like fighters. If people would stop playing shooters...enjoy better games...

Jankarcop

PC has the biggest gaming community , and the most diverse for different genres :| (RTS/MMO/SHOOTER/MOBA) all have HUGE communities, each bigger than an entire console's community :|

Boot up SSF4:ae on PC...if I am lucky, I'll find someone in australia or something, while connecting from europe. Take it easy, fighting games will always have a bigger community on consoles, there is no denying that.
#540 Posted by Jankarcop (8893 posts) -

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

PC gaming doesn't lack diversity, it lacks the community for games like fighters. If people would stop playing shooters...enjoy better games...

DrTrafalgarLaw

PC has the biggest gaming community , and the most diverse for different genres :| (RTS/MMO/SHOOTER/MOBA) all have HUGE communities, each bigger than an entire console's community :|

Boot up SSF4:ae on PC...if I am lucky, I'll find someone in australia or something, while connecting from europe. Take it easy, fighting games will always have a bigger community on consoles, there is no denying that.

You said "if people would stop playing shooters", but PC has many other big communities for several genres. :|

It has a bigger overall community and diversity is my point.