Come on consoles, try to keep up. Too slow!

You care about frames AND resolution as the latter is in you sig, that's how everyone sees it lol.

I'd be impressed if they could just make the console OS lag-free.

Baby steps.

LOL, so true. Maybe they could use the power of the cloud! LOL

Somehow Nintendo is the only one to figure out that the home screen should just be a list of games.

PS4 and X1 both clutter their UI with ads and other things that have to be loaded from servers and with spinning rust HDDs the experience is just god-awful.

I would too prefer console games to run at 60fps.

Come on consoles bow to your father PC.

@pyro1245: Guess you havent played a ps4, it doesn't have ads in the UI 99% of the time, and when one rarely pops up you can easily delete it.

That might be true, but unlike Ghost he is 100% accurate and truthful

I want to say that has something to do with the crappy hard drive within the systems. Windows 10 is the same way if you're booting from a HDD, so this is my guess. Hopefully they fix it next gen, because they are, indeed, ungodly slow.

Once harddrive is no longer a issue on speeds, connection is. I got a 3500/3200 ssd and frankly the only wait time i experience is stuff connecting and even on a 1gb network with a 100/100 up and down its still slow.

I guess you can't recognize an ad. Blah blah blah.

The point is data is being loaded from PSN and it slows down the experience. I'd prefer they remove the clutter or make their network more responsive.

The only reason PC gamers have these high frame rates is because the console hardware is now very old so there's a lot of head room as PC is way above the base line console spec.

But what are PC gamers going to do when the next generation consoles release and all of a sudden they can't play multiplat games at 60fps+ because the console base line has increased massively and their hardware no longer has the head room?

Will you boycott PC until they have a suitable enough performance gap to give you over 60fps?

780 GTX release date = May 2013

Xbox One release date = November 22, 2013

PS4 release date = November 15, 2013

That is not going to happen. Any PC gamer that really cares about quality is always going to have substantially better hardware than the consoles. If it is not already better at the time of the console launch, they can upgrade.

Simply put, I'll just upgrade the GPU and call it a day. With Consoles, you gotta upgrade the whole machine, PC is flexible to upgrade whenever the player is ready to.

@davillain-: but you'll also need to eventually upgrade the graphics card in addition to the cpu, and upgrade the ram, and probably need a better motherboard down the road.

PC is better but is always more expensive than just buying a new box once a gen.

You get what you pay for. A console usually costs $500 or less. You can't expect much when you are spending that amount.

@mrbojangles25: That's not true, baseman tells me I can't play a game properly at 30fps, so he is factually 100% untruthful & inaccurate.

Herms gotta lie for other herms I see :(

As usual....

@BassMan: No, you can't handle reality lol.

I can handle reality just fine. Virtual reality at low frame rates is what I can't handle. :P

@BassMan: Then stop playing on the PSVR lol

I don't have PSVR.

@DragonfireXZ95:

For real you are a comparing a gtx 780 with the Xbox one and ps4? 7770 and 7850 how they perform today?

Daily, I know BassMan and he never bother to purchase PSVR. I however now own a PSVR, love it and no regrets :)

The 780 gtx was released before the consoles, and it almost keeps up with the Xbox One X, and can still run games at 60 fps. My point was that a video card released before the consoles can easily span the total life of the console, whereas that dumbass up there thinks that a video card will be obsolete when the new consoles come out.

@scatteh316: Sorry, but that's completely inaccurate.

If current gen consoles launched in 2013, pc gamers would have had access to core i7's for the previous 5 years.

Even the lowly i7 920 crushes the potato CPU in the consoles of this gen. A processor from 2008.

My i7 970 is from 2010 and can still put out a steady 30 fps at 4K, or 60+ at 1440p and below.

@Pedro: That also happen to cost less 1/4 of the rigs people compare them with ^^

With FarCry 5, Gigabyte RX 570 beats "NV GTX 780 Ti". Your "GTX 780" is a lesser GPU when compared to "GTX 780 Ti".

From https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3446-nvidia-gtx-780-ti-revisit-in-2019-benchmarks

GTX 780 Ti is a POS. It's a good thing I bought MSI Gaming X R9-290X instead!

FYI, AMD's Jaguar's 128 bit SSE FADD and 128 bit SSE FMUL units count is like Intel's Core 2, but Jaguar has better dot 3D product capability.

Athlon 5350 is quad core Jaguar at 2.05 Ghz based CPU.

A6-5200 is quad core Jaguar at 2.0 Ghz based CPU.

On IPC, Jaguar beats Bulldozer (a.g. A8, A10) on 3D dot movement! Jaguar CPU design is tuned for cheap 3D dot movement CPU.

Decision making AI logic needs good general integer and branch hardware, and Jaguar is inferior when compared to Intel Gulftown (e.g. Core i7 970).

@pyro1245: you are definitely right about the ps4 UI. I hate waiting for all those crappy apps to load in the UI when I just want to play a game I own. Half the time I forget what I was doing and end up watching Netflix. I like the Switch UI where it loads immediately and doesn’t need internet to load any of it. Boom! Games! Immediately! Ps4 feels more like an Amazon Firestick to me in both speed and clutter.