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Poll Character design: Western Vs. Japanese (111 votes)

Western , Rough and Realistic 56%
Japanese , Cute and Sexy 44%

I myself prefer western designs , It’s not because I hate Japanese’s video games, they all have a great gameplay and great designs especially when it comes to action/horror and hack-n-slash and as always no one denies the art of anime but it seems Japanese devs are losing touch with reality and chose to live in a world of fantasy, plus you can hardly see a new concept or new characters design from Japanese video game designers , in most cases it’s always been a 16 year old teenybopper with tits bigger than her head, dressed-up in bikini-clads or a lonely emo boy carrying a sword, the size of light post and when you mix these with a story full of melodrama bullshit what you get is a weeboo trash

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#51 Mr_Huggles_dog
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All I know is the one game that turned me off to Japanese games in general was Final Fantasy X.

Everyone in that game was just weird.

Taking just the part of character design....there was one dude with a spiked up front hair.....that looked like when Cameron Diaz ran splooge through her hair in Something About Mary.

It was fucking ridiculous.

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#52 Jereb31
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

All I know is the one game that turned me off to Japanese games in general was Final Fantasy X.

Everyone in that game was just weird.

Taking just the part of character design....there was one dude with a spiked up front hair.....that looked like when Cameron Diaz ran splooge through her hair in Something About Mary.

It was fucking ridiculous.

That is why most *** characters weird me out too. They seem to make the main characters stand out by adding ridiculous clothing and styles.

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#53 JangoWuzHere
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@Bigboi500 said:
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@93BlackHawk93 said:
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Say what you want about the game but the Other M design is the best Samus.
Say what you want about the game but the Other M design is the best Samus.

They gave Samus heels.

So?

I don't understand why I need to explain the absurdity of a combat mercenary running around in high heels.

It's conceptually and visually stupid.

What about her rolling up in to a basket ball and dropping bombs? Absurdity is what games are all about. Ever seen Kingdom Hearts or Fable characters' feet? Video game fantasy and reality never meet.

Yes, Samus can morph into a ball, it's sci-fi, so I'm willing to buy that. However, that doesn't mean I'm willing to accept that woman can run around comfortably in high heels in combat, that's a leap of creative logic to me. The world of Metroid is absurd, but it's not "that" absurd. A game like bayonetta is so crazy and insane that I'm perfectly willing to accept that the main character will run and fight using high heels. Metroid actually takes itself somewhat seriously, so design quirks like that make the game look dumb.

Not to mention, putting athletic fantasy female characters in high heels has been terribly cliche for decades now.

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#54 so_hai
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The Japanese character design tradition is very rich and varied. The Western style is just a mirror of what Hollywood's produced.

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#55 happyduds77
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Japanese cause Bloodborne but then it has a huge western influence so I don't know.

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#56 GhoX
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Japanese designs of Japanese characters > most Western designs of Western characters (same old white male with giant biceps) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Japanese designs of Western characters (cringe).

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#57 superbuuman
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prefer Japanese..in this case. :P

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#58 X_CAPCOM_X
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Almost all of the ignorance in this thread casts all Japanese character design as chibi anime androgynous boys/girls. It's interesting.

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#59 Legend002
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Japanese designs styles are more diverse. You get the same shit with American driven art.

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#61 the_master_race
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@playharderfool said:

The generalization about Japanese games is so ignorant it's painful.


I don't know but there isn't really even question to what the answer is to this lol but some people need to feel better about something I guess. but LOL at western being "realistic" and Japanese only being cute and sexy. That stereo typical type of thinking might work out well in your heads but not in reality if you try to typecast Japanese design in 2015.

Summarizing Japanese design as "cute and sexy" shows the ignorance of someone who knows absolutely nothing about it.

Since I’m ignorant and don’t know shit about Japanese games, could you please answer one question for me and tell me why “Quiet”, the main character from MGSV who’s a deadly markswoman wearing a torn fishnet and a thong g-string as a military outfit in Yoji Shinkawa’s artwork … I’m sure there’s reasonable explanation for that

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#62 Suppaman100
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@skelly34 said:

I'm not a pedophile so western.

LMFAO,

you win the thread.

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#63  Edited By drinkerofjuice
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Japanese characters tend to have more unique designs for better or worse. But I honestly don't prefer one or the other.

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#64  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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Western. I used to think otherwise, but that emo, metro-sexual shit is really starting to get on my nerves.

Also I wonder if the Japanese are ashamed of their own skin colour, everyone comes off white. If they were Chinese I would think, okay the Chinese are much lighter, in skin colour anyways.

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#65 KungfuKitten
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@JangoWuzHere said:
@93BlackHawk93 said:
Say what you want about the game but the Other M design is the best Samus.
Say what you want about the game but the Other M design is the best Samus.

They gave Samus heels.

So instantly wrong

Spaceheels.

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#66 Epak_
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Both have some good design, but if I had to choose one I'd say western.

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#67  Edited By R10nu
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Valkyria Chronicles has some of my most favorite designs in videogames. And that's japanese, so.

Also this.

@the_master_race said:

Since I’m ignorant and don’t know shit about Japanese games, could you please answer one question for me and tell me why “Quiet”, the main character from MGSV who’s a deadly markswoman wearing a torn fishnet and a thong g-string as a military outfit in Yoji Shinkawa’s artwork … I’m sure there’s reasonable explanation for that

Her backstory's supposed to explain that and we know nothing about it since the game's not out yet.

If i'm to guess, her reasons are similar to GITS' Major Kusanagi's naked antics.

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#68 DarthaPerkinjan
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Valkyria Chronicles has some of my most favorite designs in videogames. And that's japanese, so.

Also this.

Um....half those Japanese faces look like they belong to a 12 year old.

Also all the Japanese faces are interchangeable - the only difference is hair

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#69 TigerSuperman
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This thread has a broad title but within it's only about female characters. It also implies that the options in the poll are the only artstyles, instantly giviingthe win to the west because I'm not attracted to underage 10 year old girls.

May need to remake thread.

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#70 R10nu
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@TigerSuperman said:

I'm not attracted to underage 10 year old girls.

Yep, it's only healthy to be attracted to mature 10 year olds. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )

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#71 Zidaneski
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As far as video games go I would go with Japanese character designs because there is far more diversity among the guys, girls, and creatures. That's why its easier for me to be impress with Japanese games because their worlds can get pretty crazy.

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#72 cainetao11
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@Jag85 said:

Japanese female character designs focus on the boobs.

Western female character designs focus on the butt.

It's basically tits vs. arse.

Take your pick.

always been a hips and butt guy

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#73 headninjadog
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Japan is definitely more innovative by far and Capcom takes the cake although some slick looking stuff is coming from Platinum games and no matter how idealized DOA girls look Team Ninja makes them look very pretty. Looking at RE, DMC and Bloodborne, Japanese developers even capture Victorian era design and atmosphere better than anything I've ever seen come out from us westerners. Now I'm not bashing on western character designers because their characters look great too!

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#74  Edited By Jag85
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@HalcyonScarlet said:

Western. I used to think otherwise, but that emo, metro-sexual shit is really starting to get on my nerves.

Also I wonder if the Japanese are ashamed of their own skin colour, everyone comes off white. If they were Chinese I would think, okay the Chinese are much lighter, in skin colour anyways.

This makes no sense whatsoever. A lot of Japanese folks are just as pale-skinned as white and Chinese people.

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#75 superbuuman
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@HalcyonScarlet said:

Western. I used to think otherwise, but that emo, metro-sexual shit is really starting to get on my nerves.

Also I wonder if the Japanese are ashamed of their own skin colour, everyone comes off white. If they were Chinese I would think, okay the Chinese are much lighter, in skin colour anyways.

You really need to see more people before making a call like that..there are fair skin Japanese people & dark skin Japanese people.

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#76 PsychoLemons
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Neither.

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@93BlackHawk93 said:
@JangoWuzHere said:
@93BlackHawk93 said:
@JangoWuzHere said:
@93BlackHawk93 said:

They gave Samus heels.

So?

I don't understand why I need to explain the absurdity of a combat mercenary running around in high heels.

It's conceptually and visually stupid.

Samus looks way, WAAAAY better in Metroid Prime 1. There she actually didn't look like an ugly ass Barbie.

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#78  Edited By Jag85
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@DarthaPerkinjan said:
@R10nu said:

Valkyria Chronicles has some of my most favorite designs in videogames. And that's japanese, so.

Also this.

Um....half those Japanese faces look like they belong to a 12 year old.

Also all the Japanese faces are interchangeable - the only difference is hair

On the one hand, you say half of them look like 12 year-olds, and then on the other hand, you say they're all interchangeable... You just contradicted yourself, defeating your own argument.

Either way, the Japanese-designed faces in that picture demonstrate a far wider variety of different features and art styles than the Western-designed faces. The Japanese-designed faces cover everything from ultra-realistic to ultra-cartoony, and everything in between. The Western-designed faces, on the other hand, range from just semi-realistic to ultra-realistic, and very little else.

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#79  Edited By the_master_race
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@Jag85 said:
@DarthaPerkinjan said:
@R10nu said:

Valkyria Chronicles has some of my most favorite designs in videogames. And that's japanese, so.

Also this.

Um....half those Japanese faces look like they belong to a 12 year old.

Also all the Japanese faces are interchangeable - the only difference is hair

On the one hand, you say half of them look like 12 year-olds, and then on the other hand, you say they're all interchangeable... You just contradicted yourself, defeating your own argument.

Either way, the Japanese-designed faces in that picture demonstrate a far wider variety of different features and art styles than the Western-designed faces. The Japanese-designed faces cover everything from ultra-realistic to ultra-cartoony, and everything in between. The Western-designed faces, on the other hand, range from just semi-realistic to ultra-realistic, and very little else.

Yep, from an artistic point of view they’re more diverse and far better than western designs but lack of realism make these designs to seem a bit immature which could be great when you’re target audience are children /young adults

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#80  Edited By uriweru
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It's tough to say because it really depends on the game and the artist.

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#81  Edited By Jag85
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@the_master_race said:

Yep, from an artistic point of view they’re more diverse and far better than western designs but lack of realism make these designs to seem a bit immature which could be great when you’re target audience are children /young adults

The faces shown for MGS, Resident Evil, FFXV, and Yakuza, for example, are realistic. And at the same time, the faces shown for Dragon Quest, Catherine, Xenoblade, and Street Fighter, for example, are cartoony. That's the kind of range I'm referring to.

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#82 -God-
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@R10nu said:

Valkyria Chronicles has some of my most favorite designs in videogames. And that's japanese, so.

Also this.

lol the western ones at least somewhat resemble living humans.

the japanese ones are some weirdo weaboo girly anime shit...

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#83 freedomfreak
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The West makes dudes with breasts, while Japan makes actual good looking women. Fact.

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#84 R10nu
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@-God- said:

lol the western ones at least somewhat resemble living humans.

Is it a universally good thing?

Because i would argue that it's not.

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#85  Edited By Jag85
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@-God- said:

lol the western ones at least somewhat resemble living humans.

the japanese ones are some weirdo weaboo girly anime shit...

Are you seriously complaining about female characters looking girly? So you'd rather prefer they look masculine? Okay.

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#86 -God-
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@Jag85 said:
@-God- said:

lol the western ones at least somewhat resemble living humans.

the japanese ones are some weirdo weaboo girly anime shit...

Are you seriously complaining about female characters looking girly? So you'd rather prefer they look masculine? Okay.

I'm complaining that they don't look remotely human. Like some sort of weird alien race.

lol anime/japanese art.

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@R10nu said:
@-God- said:

lol the western ones at least somewhat resemble living humans.

Is it a universally good thing?

Because i would argue that it's not.

Video game visuals are no where near that level.

Even a game like LA Noire still looks like a fantasy world despite the advanced facial animation.

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#88 -God-
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@JangoWuzHere said:
@R10nu said:
@-God- said:

lol the western ones at least somewhat resemble living humans.

Is it a universally good thing?

Because i would argue that it's not.

Video game visuals are no where near that level.

Even a game like LA Noire still looks like a fantasy world despite the advanced facial animation.

Sure beats this,

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#89  Edited By R10nu
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@-God- said:

Sure beats this,

Anything and everything beats LoL. Your point?

Also LoL is not Japanese.

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#90 Jag85
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@-God- said:

I'm complaining that they don't look remotely human. Like some sort of weird alien race.

lol anime/japanese art.

Let me guess...

You prefer the one on the left, right?

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#91  Edited By -God-
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@Jag85 said:
@-God- said:

I'm complaining that they don't look remotely human. Like some sort of weird alien race.

lol anime/japanese art.

Let me guess...

You prefer the one on the left, right?

So you like the 12 year old with boob implants on the right?

Anime girls are puke worthy,

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#92  Edited By Jag85
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@-God-:

You seriously think a 12 year old can have a curvy figure like that?

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#93 -God-
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@Jag85 said:

@-God-:

You seriously think a 12 year old can have a curvy figure like that?

You seriously think there is any human on this planet that looks like anime girls?

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#94  Edited By Jag85
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@-God-: Then how can they look like 12 year olds if they barely even look human? You're just contradicting yourself.

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The Japanese take the cake on this one. Their female characters are gorgeous (3D CG not anime). There are also very beautiful anime characters that don't look like 10 year olds like Air Gear. It really depends on the artist. I just think the West does realistic female characters better outside of the fantasy genre.

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#96  Edited By Lionheart08
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This thread went to shit really fast.

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#97  Edited By DarthaPerkinjan
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@freedomfreak said:

The West makes dudes with breasts, while Japan makes actual good looking women. Fact.

What in the HELL is that thing on the left?!

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#98 freedomfreak
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@DarthaPerkinjan: That's Serah from Dragon Age: Inquisition.

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@-God-: Then how can they look like 12 year olds if they barely even look human? You're just contradicting yourself.

non human creatures also have 12 year olds, genius.

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#100  Edited By Jag85
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@-God-: 12 is old for most animal creatures... If a cat or dog reached that age, for example, it would be either old or middle-aged (depending on the breed).