Can Wii run it? Part 2. (56k warning)

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#101 goblaa
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Certainly hardware wise. And control wise I'm sure it can. Though I don't know how NG controls.
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#102 punkrocker163
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Finaly all the flaming stoped, the poll is 50/50. wow. lol

Todays can wii run it was a sucess. Part Tri is a go.

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#103 deactivated-586249e1b64ba
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Certainly hardware wise. And control wise I'm sure it can. Though I don't know how NG controls.goblaa

Taken off an FAQ
+--------------------------------- CONTROLS ------------------------ CN.TR --+

+--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| X | Attack |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| Y | Special Attack |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| B | Projectile Weapon |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| A | Jump |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| Y + B | Ninpo |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| X + A | Wind Run |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| L | Guard |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| R | Centre Camera |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| Black | Display Map |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| White | Karma Window On/Off |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| Start | Bring up the menu |
+--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------+
That should give you a basic idea.
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#104 air_wolf_cubed
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Finaly all the flaming stoped, the poll is 50/50. wow. lol

Todays can wii run it was a sucess. Part Tri is a go.

punkrocker163
That just means 50% of the voters are fanboys
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#105 punkrocker163
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[QUOTE="punkrocker163"]

Finaly all the flaming stoped, the poll is 50/50. wow. lol

Todays can wii run it was a sucess. Part Tri is a go.

air_wolf_cubed

That just means 50% of the voters are fanboys

Good thing i was one of the 50 that said it could work. =]

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#106 naruto7777
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no it can't its to weak
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#107 air_wolf_cubed
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no it can't its to weaknaruto7777
see what i mean punkrocker
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#108 punkrocker163
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[QUOTE="naruto7777"]no it can't its to weakair_wolf_cubed
see what i mean punkrocker

I cant tell them what to say. lol. He couldve at least stated reasons instead of just saying that.

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#109 Elviathan
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Yes. I think the Wii is slightly more powerful than the original Xbox.
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#110 mistervengeance
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emulate it?

not a chance in heck.

if they recoded the whole game for the wii?

yes.

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#111 C-Lee
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Who cares? Play the games that are on the system
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#112 Marka1700
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No, The wii dosn't support the advanced DX8 Lighting and shader techniques that the origianl Xbox did.
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#113 nintendog66
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[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

Dude.... wth kind of anime is that in your sig ( is that even legal on here? )?

Fawlcon_Pawnch

LMAO :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Its Galaxy, it has this effect on chicks

^^ Certainly, chicks digg the Wii(yes, I'm serious).

And I see you're liking my sig. :P I don't know from which anime they are(I don't watch any except from Death Note and DBZ), I just found it in some guy's sig in another forum, and no I wasn't browsing for "stuff", I don't like animated porn but this is just too over the top and hilarious. :lol:

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#114 punkrocker163
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No, The wii dosn't support the advanced DX8 Lighting and shader techniques that the origianl Xbox did.Marka1700

holy crap, maybe one of the first people that said an intelligent no. *claps*

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#115 Fawlcon_Pawnch
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No, The wii dosn't support the advanced DX8 Lighting and shader techniques that the origianl Xbox did.Marka1700

Thats completely irrelevant, i'm not an expert but if a console isnt DX based it doesnt mean it cant reproduce or even surpass the graphics of an DX based system. Wii has a diferent API more than capable of doing what the Xbox did in shaders and in lighting.

They have different APIs, thats all

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#116 nintendog66
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"]No, The wii dosn't support the advanced DX8 Lighting and shader techniques that the origianl Xbox did.punkrocker163

holy crap, maybe one of the first people that said an intelligent no. *claps*

Actually, it can. However the Xbox had these pre-programmed, so it was MUCH more easier to implement them in any game.

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#117 Marka1700
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"]No, The wii dosn't support the advanced DX8 Lighting and shader techniques that the origianl Xbox did.Fawlcon_Pawnch

Thats completely irrelevant, i'm not an expert but if a console isnt DX based it doesnt mean it cant reproduce or even surpass the graphics of an DX based system. Wii has a diferent API more than capable of doing what the Xbox did in shaders and in lighting.

They have different APIs, thats all

You said emulate it perfectly. If wii is capapble of dilivering these effects on the same scale it has not even come close to showing it yet. It has used a few things that dilivered a similar effects in Mario galaxy, but that is only in in simple envionments. Heck, it's a mile of matching games like Splinter cell : Chaos theory.

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#118 Fawlcon_Pawnch
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You said emulate it perfectly. If wii is capapble of dilivering these effects on the same scale it has not even come close to showing it yet.Marka1700

I disagree. Dude, its not a case of "if", go read the Wii's specs.

It has used a few things that dilivered a similar effects in Mario galaxy, but that is only in in simple envionments. Heck, it's a mile of matching games like Splinter cell : Chaos theory.

Marka1700

Thats more of an opinion than anything else (an opinion which i completely disagree). And i also have the feeling you dont own a Wii.

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#119 Marka1700
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"]

You said emulate it perfectly. If wii is capapble of dilivering these effects on the same scale it has not even come close to showing it yet.Fawlcon_Pawnch

I disagree. Dude, its not a case of "if", go read the Wii's specs.

It has used a few things that dilivered a similar effects in Mario galaxy, but that is only in in simple envionments. Heck, it's a mile of matching games like Splinter cell : Chaos theory.

Marka1700

Thats more of an opinion than anything else (an opinion which i completely disagree). And i also have the feeling you dont own a Wii.

Launch day purchase, still have it. Along with Super parper mario, Mario Galaxy, Metriod Prime 3, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn Twilight Princess and Brawl.

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#120 Fawlcon_Pawnch
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Launch day purchase, still have it. Along with Super parper mario, Mario Galaxy, Metriod Prime 3, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn and Twilight princess.

Marka1700

Then i cant possibly understand how you believe the Wii is weaker than the Xbox and is'nt capable of running NGB, or that Splinter Cell looks "miles" better than Galaxy and Metroid.

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#121 Marka1700
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"]

Launch day purchase, still have it. Along with Super parper mario, Mario Galaxy, Metriod Prime 3, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn and Twilight princess.

Fawlcon_Pawnch

Then i cant possibly understand how you believe the Wii is weaker than the Xbox and is'nt capable of running NGB, or that Splinter Cell looks "miles" better than Galaxy and Metroid.

From a tecnical point of view the certainly do. Mario and Metriod however have much better art and creative world desing. Medtriod also has incredible attetndion to detail.

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#122 punkrocker163
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This topic seems done, and im tired. Stay tuned for part tri tommorow at around 4 pm eastern time. Its gonna be one hell of a Chaos Theory.

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#123 Shinobishyguy
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This topic seems done, and im tired. Stay tuned for part tri tommorow at around 4 pm eastern time. Its gonna be one hell of a Chaos Theory.

punkrocker163

don't even bother.

These threads are nothing but a waste of time.

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#124 HappyAppe
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[QUOTE="punkrocker163"]

This topic seems done, and im tired. Stay tuned for part tri tommorow at around 4 pm eastern time. Its gonna be one hell of a Chaos Theory.

Shinobishyguy

don't even bother.

These threads are nothing but a waste of time.

Chaos Theory is much better looking than anything on the Wii from a technical, realistic standpoint. Sure Mario galaxy/Metroid might look more appealing as a result of better art design, but Ninja Gaiden requires a system with a bit more tech muscle (as it is extremely fast paced, has huge detailed bosses, etc). So far Wii has done nothing to prove that i can handle games like Chaoes Theory/NG from the original Xbox.

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#125 goblaa
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[QUOTE="goblaa"]Certainly hardware wise. And control wise I'm sure it can. Though I don't know how NG controls.Technoweirdo

Taken off an FAQ
+--------------------------------- CONTROLS ------------------------ CN.TR --+

+--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| X | Attack |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| Y | Special Attack |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| B | Projectile Weapon |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| A | Jump |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| Y + B | Ninpo |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| X + A | Wind Run |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| L | Guard |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| R | Centre Camera |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| Black | Display Map |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| White | Karma Window On/Off |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| Start | Bring up the menu |
+--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------+

That should give you a basic idea.

+--------------------------------- CONTROLS ------------------------ CN.TR --+

+--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| B | Attack |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|

| Thrust down | Special Attack |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| Z | Projectile Weapon |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| A | Jump |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| Down (d-pad) | Ninpo |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| Nunchuck flick | Wind Run |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| Point up | Guard
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| C | Centre Camera |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| + | Display Map |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| - | Karma Window On/Off |
|--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------|
| + | Bring up the menu |
+--------------+-------------------------------------------------------------+
Like I said, I never played NG, but even though it's fast, this control scheme is fine. 
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#126 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="punkrocker163"]

This topic seems done, and im tired. Stay tuned for part tri tommorow at around 4 pm eastern time. Its gonna be one hell of a Chaos Theory.

HappyAppe

don't even bother.

These threads are nothing but a waste of time.

Chaos Theory is much better looking than anything on the Wii from a technical, realistic standpoint. Sure Mario galaxy/Metroid might look more appealing as a result of better art design, but Ninja Gaiden requires a system with a bit more tech muscle (as it is extremely fast paced, has huge detailed bosses, etc). So far Wii has done nothing to prove that i can handle games like Chaoes Theory/NG from the original Xbox.

Brawl looks on par with ninja gaiden black and it's pretty damn fast paced.
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#127 ZimpanX
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It just might be able to considering that Galaxy and MP3 look pretty darn good, Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay though is an other story. Have not seen any proof that the Wii can pull of something like that.
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#128 50shot
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it won't be able to "emulate" since emulation needs 3x better spec of the original system you're emulating.

it's possible for wii to run it if it's PORTED with lower detail, etc...

btw you should trade your wii for 360 if this bothers you that much. it's only $200 new. :)

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#129 HappyAppe
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[QUOTE="HappyAppe"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="punkrocker163"]

This topic seems done, and im tired. Stay tuned for part tri tommorow at around 4 pm eastern time. Its gonna be one hell of a Chaos Theory.

Shinobishyguy

don't even bother.

These threads are nothing but a waste of time.

Chaos Theory is much better looking than anything on the Wii from a technical, realistic standpoint. Sure Mario galaxy/Metroid might look more appealing as a result of better art design, but Ninja Gaiden requires a system with a bit more tech muscle (as it is extremely fast paced, has huge detailed bosses, etc). So far Wii has done nothing to prove that i can handle games like Chaoes Theory/NG from the original Xbox.

Brawl looks on par with ninja gaiden black and it's pretty damn fast paced.

All of Brawl takes place in a fairly confined space.

The argument that the Wii is more powerful than the Xbox just hasn't been proven yet, IMO. Until developers show that it can, I won't believe it. Nintendo is leading the pack with good looking games on the Wii, and most of that is a result of chosen art-style, not really pushing the Wii technically.

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#130 fabz_95
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I'm sure it could run that game and I'm sure they could make the controls even better
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#131 Teuf_
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I'm sure they could make the controls even betterfabz_95


I don't see that at all, there's simply not enough buttons.

For an ultra-fast-paced game like Ninja Gaiden you don't intuitive motions or better aiming, you need to be able trigger an action at exactly the right moment.
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#132 Arnalion
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No the Wii isn't able to emulate the game, period!

It can't software emulate it because it requires much more processing power than the Wii has. It can't hardware emulate it since the Wii and the Xbox don't have the same components.