Can we finally get off Nintendo's back?

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#1  Edited By bunchanumbers
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NX is coming next year. Pokemon Go is a super smash hit. Nintendo stocks are higher than they've been in years. Nintendo has reconfirmed their status as a cultural phenomenon. Its more apparent now than ever that Iwata's strategy for Nintendo's return is working.

Can we finally get off Nintendo's back for Wii U?

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#2  Edited By nintendoboy16
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Nope, they won't because...

-Anything that isn't SNES sucks (besides GameCube circa 2006)

-Third party support sucks

-They're a gaming version of a People's Republic of Tyranny

-Miyamoto is the George Lucas of the Industry

-They must be a THIRD PARTY...

-*insert any other reason here*

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#3 chikenfriedrice
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No

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#4  Edited By Star67
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For the Wii U? Heck no. It's still a lackluster console compared to the competition and they refuse to lower the price on it.

And I'm glad Nintendo is doing well with Pokemon Go, I don't want any company to go under and people lose their jobs.......BUT

Do we really want more games like Pokemon Go? I mean it's a cute fun game, but it doesn't compare to AAA or Indie games on a home console or PC. I'm already starting to get bored with it and it hasn't been out a week; and the experience has been horrible!!!! The game's servers are constantly being overloaded, there's tons of bugs, and it freezes. If it wasn't Pokemon the game would be a flop. Compared to the Gameboy and DS pokemon games, Go is really shallow without much substance.

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#5 doubutsuteki
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Nope, they're still sucking ass.

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#6 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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We'll get off their back when they stop languishing in mediocrity. Pokemon GO is great, but it's one game, the NX is a total unknown, and how they are handling it doesn't inspire confidence, Zelda looks great, but could turn out to be a disappointment the same as any other game, etc etc

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#7 Wasdie  Moderator
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How has Nintendo "reconfirmed their status as a cultural phenomenon"?

One app launching that gives investors confidence is not the same as what you're saying.

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#8  Edited By Kruiz_Bathory
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They're good but I'm still having a few issues with Go so they suck major balls rn.

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#9 hrt_rulz01
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I'll definitely be reserving judgement until I see what NX is and what it offers... Pokemon GO means nothing to me

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#10  Edited By Blabadon
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They released an incredibly lackluster console and handheld, so no.

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#11 deactivated-5f26ed7cf0697
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Nope.

Stop being so fvcking secretive.

Start advertising they're products clearly, especially with developers.

Create a cohesive relationship with those developers and earn 3rd party support.

Get with the fvcking times!

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#12 bunchanumbers
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@Wasdie said:

How has Nintendo "reconfirmed their status as a cultural phenomenon"?

One app launching that gives investors confidence is not the same as what you're saying.

Look at all the hype surrounding it. It has pretty much taken over everything in the past week. Businesses are seeing more sales because they are a poke stop. It has surpassed tinder and goes toe to toe with twitter for usage. Parents are dragging their kids along on poke hunts. Groups started poke walks so they can hunt together. Nintendo saw their market cap go up by 7 billion dollars in a week and it hasn't even launched in Japan yet. It might be one app, but it has taken the world by storm. If that isn't phenomenal I don't know what is.

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#13 Solaryellow
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Nintendo being a "cultural" phenom is exemplified by its stature in the 1980's and early to mid 1990's. The name was everywhere and on everything and everyone knew what it was. The company has not since come close to being on that level.

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#15 Wasdie  Moderator
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@bunchanumbers: I agree with everything minus the connection you're making with Nintendo.

Pokemon has always been a brand of its own. Nintendo has never truly capitalized on it being one of their exclusive brands in the way they did with Mario and Zelda. I think it being focused on the handhelds has been the reason behind that.

I see Pokemon GO's popularity stemming greatly from a blend of innovation and nostalgia for Pokemon. People are also very excited for the first time they can interact with Pokemon without having to buy a damn Nintendo handheld they wouldn't have any other use for. People my age (25+) at least. I like Pokemon, but not enough to buy a 3DS for the latest. I don't really care about the latest either. This is partly why Pokemon GO's lineup is focused on the original 150 rather than the huge roster of Pokemon there are now.

I disagree with the connection you're making between Pokemon and Nintendo. I think the general population sees Pokemon as its own thing. It was a video game, TV show, movies, trading card game, and toys. I know a lot of people my age who never played the game but watched the show and the movies and loved them all the same.

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#16  Edited By jcrame10
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a large portion of Pokemon go players are casuals who don't even play games. I think all this is proving is nintendo hits home with casuals and the mobile industry.

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#17 Bread_or_Decide
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@jcrame10 said:

a large portion of Pokemon go players are casuals who don't even play games. I think all this is proving is nintendo hits home with casuals and the mobile industry.

Yeah....that's where the money is, bruh.

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#18 smashed_pinata
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Sorry TC but Nintendo has a lot more to prove.

You sound like a Sony Fan jumping to conclusions like that this early!

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#19  Edited By iandizion713
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Pokemon GO changed the world. Nintendo done done it again.

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#20 Douevenlift_bro
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Dude's on a "please leave Microsoft and Nintendo alone!!" parade today...

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#21 2Chalupas
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Pokemon Go does nothing for me, and it's not even made by Nintendo, so no.

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#22 bunchanumbers
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@Wasdie said:

@bunchanumbers: I agree with everything minus the connection you're making with Nintendo.

Pokemon has always been a brand of its own. Nintendo has never truly capitalized on it being one of their exclusive brands in the way they did with Mario and Zelda. I think it being focused on the handhelds has been the reason behind that.

I see Pokemon GO's popularity stemming greatly from a blend of innovation and nostalgia for Pokemon. People are also very excited for the first time they can interact with Pokemon without having to buy a damn Nintendo handheld they wouldn't have any other use for. People my age (25+) at least. I like Pokemon, but not enough to buy a 3DS for the latest. I don't really care about the latest either. This is partly why Pokemon GO's lineup is focused on the original 150 rather than the huge roster of Pokemon there are now.

I disagree with the connection you're making between Pokemon and Nintendo. I think the general population sees Pokemon as its own thing. It was a video game, TV show, movies, trading card game, and toys. I know a lot of people my age who never played the game but watched the show and the movies and loved them all the same.

It comes from Nintendo. Nintendo were the ones who invested in them when they first started. President Iwata even developed the compression technology to fit the first games in gold/silver. Pokemon wouldn't be nearly as huge without Nintendo.

And it shows. The pokemon Company is a perfect example on how to spin off a company. Maybe the population at large doesn't know but investors do. The Nintendo connection is there and has been since pretty much the beginning.

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#23  Edited By Celsius765
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Not yet, I propose we stay wrapped around their leg till we get some NX news

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#24 mmmwksil
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A silly mobile distraction is hardly enough to tide over some of us who want more meaty video games from the company.

The wait for NX continues...

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#25  Edited By AzatiS
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@bunchanumbers: Nintendo is messing up everything related to consoles since N64 era . As long as there are sheep around praising every shit Nintendo did and keep doing while dissing other platforms/consoles that doing way better in the long run there wont be such thing as get off Nintendos back anytime soon.

lets see if finally things can be right or not with NX.

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#26  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@jcrame10 said:

a large portion of Pokemon go players are casuals who don't even play games. I think all this is proving is nintendo hits home with casuals and the mobile industry.

Yeah....that's where the money is, bruh..

The money is also with the CoD, EA Sports, Battlefield, Assassin's Creed crowd.

Besides that, it's funny. Nintendo gets blasted for not going third party/going mobile, yet here they are with the mobile market (which, to be fair, I've always thought Nintendo should have STAYED the HELL AWAY from), and shots are still fired like a John Woo movie.

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@Star67 said:

For the Wii U? Heck no. It's still a lackluster console compared to the competition and they refuse to lower the price on it.

And I'm glad Nintendo is doing well with Pokemon Go, I don't want any company to go under and people lose their jobs.......BUT

Do we really want more games like Pokemon Go? I mean it's a cute fun game, but it doesn't compare to AAA or Indie games on a home console or PC. I'm already starting to get bored with it and it hasn't been out a week; and the experience has been horrible!!!! The game's servers are constantly being overloaded, there's tons of bugs, and it freezes. If it wasn't Pokemon the game would be a flop. Compared to the Gameboy and DS pokemon games, Go is really shallow without much substance.

This is one of the main reasons for me. To be as high priced as it is, is an insult.

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#28 CVStar
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I look forward to nintendo nx. I am really excited to see the first party line up for launch

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#29 Wasdie  Moderator
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@bunchanumbers said:
@Wasdie said:

@bunchanumbers: I agree with everything minus the connection you're making with Nintendo.

Pokemon has always been a brand of its own. Nintendo has never truly capitalized on it being one of their exclusive brands in the way they did with Mario and Zelda. I think it being focused on the handhelds has been the reason behind that.

I see Pokemon GO's popularity stemming greatly from a blend of innovation and nostalgia for Pokemon. People are also very excited for the first time they can interact with Pokemon without having to buy a damn Nintendo handheld they wouldn't have any other use for. People my age (25+) at least. I like Pokemon, but not enough to buy a 3DS for the latest. I don't really care about the latest either. This is partly why Pokemon GO's lineup is focused on the original 150 rather than the huge roster of Pokemon there are now.

I disagree with the connection you're making between Pokemon and Nintendo. I think the general population sees Pokemon as its own thing. It was a video game, TV show, movies, trading card game, and toys. I know a lot of people my age who never played the game but watched the show and the movies and loved them all the same.

It comes from Nintendo. Nintendo were the ones who invested in them when they first started. President Iwata even developed the compression technology to fit the first games in gold/silver. Pokemon wouldn't be nearly as huge without Nintendo.

And it shows. The pokemon Company is a perfect example on how to spin off a company. Maybe the population at large doesn't know but investors do. The Nintendo connection is there and has been since pretty much the beginning.

But you said it yourself, investors connections but the populations do. That doesn't mean Nintendo is the cultural phenomenon. It means Pokemon is and Nintendo is the owner.

I don't disagree with you saying without Nintendo, Pokemon wouldn't be nearly as big. But in 2016 the Pokemon brand stands alone. Nintendo should utilize this new product and surge of interest to revitalize their entire brand. But as of right now, Pokemon GO doesn't have a shred of Nintendo branding on the app. It should open up with a big Nintendo logo to put a positive connection with the Nintendo name.

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**** no. They work so far beneath themselves it's ridiculous. No one gets on their back enough.

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#31  Edited By aigis
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We know next to nothing on NX and Pokemon go only just came out (imo its not that great). Im staying on Nintendo's back

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#32 UItravioIence
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Lol a free mobile game sure has the sheep hyped up.

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@uitravioience: Pokemon is the shat son.

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#34 UItravioIence
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@iandizion713: I'm glad you like it. Personally I found it very boring.

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#35 iandizion713
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@uitravioience: Yeah, its not for everyone.

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#36 GameboyTroy
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No. The Wii U sold like trash. 3rd party support was trash. The marketing was trash. It was underpowered. It had the most niche games for a Nintendo console. Release a proper home console, please.

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#37  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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We should def praise Nintendo for entering the Phone app market.

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#38  Edited By Sushiglutton
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

We should def praise Nintendo for entering the Phone app market.

Haha well said ^^

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@Sushiglutton said:
@ReadingRainbow4 said:

We should def praise Nintendo for entering the Phone app market.

Haha well said ^^

Don't laugh dude, Angry Pidgey's is coming next and that's just going to take the world by storm!

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@cainetao11 said:
@Star67 said:

For the Wii U? Heck no. It's still a lackluster console compared to the competition and they refuse to lower the price on it.

And I'm glad Nintendo is doing well with Pokemon Go, I don't want any company to go under and people lose their jobs.......BUT

Do we really want more games like Pokemon Go? I mean it's a cute fun game, but it doesn't compare to AAA or Indie games on a home console or PC. I'm already starting to get bored with it and it hasn't been out a week; and the experience has been horrible!!!! The game's servers are constantly being overloaded, there's tons of bugs, and it freezes. If it wasn't Pokemon the game would be a flop. Compared to the Gameboy and DS pokemon games, Go is really shallow without much substance.

This is one of the main reasons for me. To be as high priced as it is, is an insult.

Dude, it costs as much as the Xbox One S.

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#41 raugutcon
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@nintendoboy16: games attached to your system instead of being attached to an account.

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#42  Edited By iandizion713
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

We should def praise Nintendo for entering the Phone app market.

I think you mean praise Nintendo for taking over the app market. Got 4 more apps to go. Winter is coming.

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

We should def praise Nintendo for entering the Phone app market.

*stares blankly"

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#45 svaubel
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No, because then cows only have Microsoft and PC left to bitch about

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#46 HalcyonScarlet
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I think we should at least give them the benefit of the doubt until the NX comes out.

I'm happy with them because their games on the Wii U are the best they've been since the N64 imo. I thought the games were just like the Wii's with better graphics, but that isn't the case. A home console with third party and Nintendo's first party would be something serious indeed.

I'm just excited about Nintendo right now.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

Nope, they won't because...

-Anything that isn't SNES sucks (besides GameCube circa 2006)

-Third party support sucks

-They're a gaming version of a People's Republic of Tyranny

-Miyamoto is the George Lucas of the Industry

-They must be a THIRD PARTY...

-*insert any other reason here*

Couldn't have said it better myself, I'm glad we finally see eye to eye for once. ( :

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#48  Edited By deactivated-5cf0a2e13dbde
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@bunchanumbers said:

NX is coming next year. Pokemon Go is a super smash hit. Nintendo stocks are higher than they've been in years. Nintendo has reconfirmed their status as a cultural phenomenon. Its more apparent now than ever that Iwata's strategy for Nintendo's return is working.

Can we finally get off Nintendo's back for Wii U?

that is a lol. They still have to prove they are a viable company in today's market for something longer than a single fiscal quarter. A single hit game is not enough to affirm a phenom status, nor is digging your share holders out of a giant hole you created year after year, without addressing the underlying causes of said stock drops.....

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Nah, they still suck for the most part.

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#50  Edited By emgesp
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@bunchanumbers:

Pokemon Go being a big hit shouldn't have surprised anyone. Its the perfect franchise for AR implementation.

But Pokemon Go being successful doesn't mean the NX will be successful. Two totally different markets.

Also, no we shouldn't just sweep the Wii U's failure under the rug like it never existed. Nintendo continues to put the blame on consumers for why the Wii U failed rather than the product itself and that needs to stop. I'll stop bringing up the Wii U as soon as Nintendo admits that the Wii U failed because of their own poor design choices. The same can be said with Miyamoto and Star Fox: Zero.