Can we agree Naughty Dog is the best 1st party developer?

In these times? I mean, Uncharted and Last of Us are mega franchises that are extremely popular with critics and gamers. Their sequels are some of most highly anticipated sequels of this generation. To have two IPs that are that popular within the same generation is quite a feat. Can any other 1st party developer really compare? I ask you SW as you rock.

No.

Nintendo EAD.

No because Uncharted 3 exists.

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FromSoft are the best.

TLoU was and still is insanely good. I wouldn't be against giving ND that title at all.

Kinda tied with nintendo, but i am fine with either.

nintendo has done it longer and has produced many all time greatest games.

this isn't greatest of all time, this is current.

Yes

! top 5 GOATS last gen alone in completely different NEW IPS.

New IPS

Top 5 GOATS

Amazing.

I'd still give the title to Nintendo.

To all the people who are screaming Nintendo. When was the last time Gamespot gave Nintendo GoTY? Probably in forever, lol.

Nope

Still EAD.

2013, The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds.

In Naughty GODS we trust.

I don't think there's a best first party developer, they're all good at different things.

Nah, not lately.

In the last five years, EAD has made:

Super Mario Galaxy 2, Super Mario 3D World, Super Mario 3D Land, The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, Mario Kart 7, Mario Kart 8, Pikmin 3, Splatoon, New Super Mario Bros. U, Animal Crossing: New Leaf, New Super Mario Bros. 2, Nintendo Land, among many, many more.

It's not even comparable.

When was the last time Nintendo released a new IP that gathered GOTY awards like Uncharted and TLOU? I'm waiting.

Last year ND made TLoU which garnered over 200 GoTY awards.

Lol no. I like Naughty Dog but they aren't even the best Sony ever had which was Team Ico. They are promising and I'd like to see how they evolve their games over the years because there is genuine talent there. Probably capable of more than they are even currently doing. But objectively, EAD take it because of Marios and Yoshi's Island. And to be honest Retro studios >> Naughty Dog for their body of work with Metroid Prime alone. Intelligent Systems have 2D Metroid under their belt. Shit, I'll just end this post and say Nintendo >>>>>>>> Naughty Dog.

TLOU was 2013. The year that Nintendo beat Naughty Dog at Gamespot.

And ND made Uncharted 3 which was terrible.

And Naughty Dog beat Nintendo on 200 different sites. What's your point?

My point is they may have one very good game, but that does not beat all of Nintendo's output as a whole, and arguing otherwise is asinine.

This board can be pretty asinine.

And I'd say only Super Mario Galaxy 2 is better than TLOU out of those. You Nintendo fanboys give way too much credit to the filler shit Ninty put out. As if you believe all of their work is automatically up to snuff with their best or at least better than anyone elses efforts.

Nope. Its Nintendo.

it wasn't terrible, it was good, just not exceptional, and before that it made uncharted 2 which also destroyed anything in awards and scores, so the fact that lems keep using u3 as sort of "proof" is quite funny.

Dude Zelda on 3DS won the last GOTY...hang your head in shame.

AAAE 9.0 Editors Choice Award winning game as according to GS.

Are you going to pretend the oceans of mediocre to terrible games they put out each and every year don't exist now?

ND is definitely one of the best developers of all time, Nintendo would be up there to.

The best developer in the world shouldnt be one that plays it safe more or less ...There are way too many of them latetly. Should be one with such creativity ( ND ) that can win countless awards from both gaming community AND industry ( aka rivals too ) as well by NEW IPs.

Thats the only reason why i would give ND an edge over EAD at this very moment. NEW Ips >> The same formula even if that formula works and its AAA by default. NEW ips. When EAD will try that as well , provide 2 new IPs or more in the same generation and get the awards and the praise ND got with UC/TLOU series.. then we can talk again who is better. For now ND has the edge no doubt ( you saw UC4 E3 2015 demo ?? Thats way and beyond )

Now i dont know if ND is the best but they heading there ... IF their next NEW IP get the awards and the praise from gamers and industry once again like UC series and TLOU did ... well yes , we have to do with the best developer around for the time being ... And when you see what they did with UC4 , oh boy , you cant do nothing more than praise them ( i do )

Maybe pre gen 7.

I don't have the nostalgic love many have for Nintendo. I started on Pong, went to Mattel electronics, and then went with Sega. But even I know Ninty's first party is hard to beat.

Why not just make it greatest dev that starts with "N" and ends with "Dog" then? You'll get agreements and no debate/conversation.

And Uncharted 3 sucked. Not to mention ALBW > TLOU.

We can play this game all night.

Nintendo destroy them, moar like, not very good dog.

Because they aren't very good.

So what? I played all four ND games back to back to back to back.

• UC1: a terrible game
• UC2: Outstanding but not perfect
• UC3: garbage
• TLOU: a great game

ND are the most inconsistent 1st party dev.

Besides ALBW beat TLOU for GOTY.

@cainetao11:

Nintendo has the greatest legacy in gaming. But that doesn't entitle them to being the best dev in our time. They're far from it, one need only to look at the ocean of terrible games they put out each year to count them out.

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Nah I'd give it to a Link between worlds also. The gameplay elements in that game are awesome. I never played SMG2 but the first was incredible.

Nintendo is a publisher with multiple first party developers working under them, Naughty Dog is a single developer Apples to Oranges isn't a fair comparison.

Nope, makers of 2 top 5 NEW IP GOATS as shown by an independent site.

I just happen to like them as well since I can form my own opinions too, just like you are.

All hail Naughty Gods!!!

Which is why he said Nintendo EAD and not Nintendo.