BioShock Vita never started development, executives put it "on hold"

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#1 Posted by EvanTheGamer (1168 posts) -

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/12/07/bioshock-vita-could-still-happen

He only had an idea for the game but never actually started development on it. He also said the game is out of his hands right now and it's really the business people(executives) who will make the decision if they make the game. Straight from the creator of the franchise:

"That is in the hands of business people right now. Its something Im still interested in, and people ask me that all the time. Right now Im just sort of waiting to see what the business people come up with, and thats sort of out of my hands at this point. Thats something that I think has a lot of potential. The game idea we have has a lot of potential. Its just a question of [if] their stars all align."

Wow and I almost bought a Vita for this : (

#2 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (26763 posts) -

Wow, all of that Vita support.

Suddenly....gone.

#3 Posted by NoirLamia777 (2332 posts) -

That's sad, oh well. If they decide to go with it I would want them to put all their focus and effort in and not have something come out that was rushed liked COD.

#4 Posted by jimmypsn (4425 posts) -

Bioshock isn't coming to Vita. This is a spoiler that will break the hearts of the 4 people who own a PS Vita.

#5 Posted by musicalmac (23817 posts) -
It's all terrible news, the Vita is so cool, but the support has been so non-existent. It's a shame.
#6 Posted by GreySeal9 (25991 posts) -

Bioshock isn't coming to Vita. This is a spoiler that will break the hearts of the 4 people who own a PS Vita.

jimmypsn

Actually, it's just one person. finalstar bought 4 of them.

#7 Posted by jimmypsn (4425 posts) -

You can tell from that article that Kevin Levine is trying to cover his butt and blame investors. LOL. He doesn't want to come out and say it that the Vita is a failure.

#8 Posted by SaltyMeatballs (25159 posts) -
All those promises... gone! Shame on your Sony.
#9 Posted by ultraking (6904 posts) -
People didn't want watered down console games on vita to begin with amirite?
#10 Posted by 1080pOnly (2032 posts) -

No loss, Bioshock was a terrible spiritual successor to System Shock 2 and made by different people. Bioshock had so much promise but a lack of any challenge or scare factor ruined it for me.

#11 Posted by jimmypsn (4425 posts) -

This is just a small snippet of the myriad number of companies to jump ship. If you have a Vita, no better chance to bail out then now while its still worth something. Just helping out my fellow gamers.

#12 Posted by Nengo_Flow (10644 posts) -

Bioshock isn't coming to Vita. This is a spoiler that will break the hearts of the 4 people who own a PS Vita.

jimmypsn
OMG This troll is back! FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU....
#13 Posted by jimmypsn (4425 posts) -

No loss, Bioshock was a terrible spiritual successor to System Shock 2 and made by different people. Bioshock had so much promise but a lack of any challenge or scare factor ruined it for me.

1080pOnly
You're calling Bioshock a terrible game just because it isn't coming to Vita? Sounds like sour grapes to me.
#14 Posted by Fizzman (9886 posts) -

To simplify their statement, "When we saw how bad the Vita was bombing we decided to save our money."

#15 Posted by MFDOOM1983 (8461 posts) -

To simplify their statement, "When we saw how bad the Vita was bombing we decided to save our money."

Fizzman
Pretty much this. No publisher is going to invest in a dying platform.
#16 Posted by CanYouDiglt (7643 posts) -
Why would top third party developers put effort into it when even Sony will not. All of the big name 1st party titles are made by lesser developers and not the developers that made those games good.
#17 Posted by IPWNDU2 (2535 posts) -

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

To simplify their statement, "When we saw how bad the Vita was bombing we decided to save our money."

MFDOOM1983

Pretty much this. No publisher is going to invest in a dying platform.

We have a winner

#18 Posted by King_Dodongo (3399 posts) -
This reminds me of resident evil PSP.
#19 Posted by jimmypsn (4425 posts) -

The premise of the Vita was flawed from the start. How much does it cost to develop a high profiled AAA console game 10-20 million. Even more for higher profiled games. Who's gonna put that money behind the Vita for games when the install base in nonexistance. "Console quality on the go" has been a failure for Sony from the start.

#20 Posted by FireEmblem_Man (9982 posts) -

I hope those resources will go on to the Wii U port instead

#21 Posted by FlamesOfGrey (7511 posts) -
Why would top third party developers put effort into it when even Sony will not. All of the big name 1st party titles are made by lesser developers and not the developers that made those games good. CanYouDiglt
1st Party: Hot Shots Golf Killzone (Unreleased) Tearaway (Unreleased) Unit 13 Wipeout 2048 Outsourced: Little Big Planet Resistance Uncharted Sony are supporting the PS Vita with their 1st Party more then they have outsourced development on the Vita.
#22 Posted by LittleMac19 (1638 posts) -
Lol Vita
#23 Posted by SaltyMeatballs (25159 posts) -
[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Why would top third party developers put effort into it when even Sony will not. All of the big name 1st party titles are made by lesser developers and not the developers that made those games good. FlamesOfGrey
1st Party: Hot Shots Golf Killzone (Unreleased) Tearaway (Unreleased) Unit 13 Wipeout 2048 Outsourced: Little Big Planet Resistance Uncharted Sony are supporting the PS Vita with their 1st Party more then they have outsourced development on the Vita.

The ones that got outsourced seem like the ones which should have been developed in house.
#24 Posted by jimmypsn (4425 posts) -

If Vita doesn't have the games then it can still sell if Sony drops the price to 100 bucks. But this would put Sony in the tank. But they need the install base to pull third parties in. Its a no win situation for Sony.

#25 Posted by The_Game21x (26342 posts) -

To simplify their statement, "When we saw how bad the Vita was bombing we decided to save our money."

Fizzman

Quoted for truth.

#26 Posted by FlamesOfGrey (7511 posts) -
[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Why would top third party developers put effort into it when even Sony will not. All of the big name 1st party titles are made by lesser developers and not the developers that made those games good. SaltyMeatballs
1st Party: Hot Shots Golf Killzone (Unreleased) Tearaway (Unreleased) Unit 13 Wipeout 2048 Outsourced: Little Big Planet Resistance Uncharted Sony are supporting the PS Vita with their 1st Party more then they have outsourced development on the Vita.

The ones that got outsourced seem like the ones which should have been developed in house.

I agree but Sony isn't going to pull ND off of consoles to work on handheld Uncharted and Insomniac aren't 1st Party (They also said after R3 that they were done with the franchise.). Little Big Planet turned out well and is a AAE game for the Vita so, outsourcing isn't always bad.
#27 Posted by Wiimotefan (4145 posts) -

[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

Bioshock isn't coming to Vita. This is a spoiler that will break the hearts of the 4 people who own a PS Vita.

GreySeal9

Actually, it's just one person. finalstar bought 4 of them.

lulz

#28 Posted by CanYouDiglt (7643 posts) -

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Why would top third party developers put effort into it when even Sony will not. All of the big name 1st party titles are made by lesser developers and not the developers that made those games good. FlamesOfGrey
1st Party: Hot Shots Golf Killzone (Unreleased) Tearaway (Unreleased) Unit 13 Wipeout 2048 Outsourced: Little Big Planet Resistance Uncharted Sony are supporting the PS Vita with their 1st Party more then they have outsourced development on the Vita.

The only big one is Killzone and is GG doing that? The outsourced ones you mention are big name titles as far as their library goes.

#29 Posted by FlamesOfGrey (7511 posts) -
[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Why would top third party developers put effort into it when even Sony will not. All of the big name 1st party titles are made by lesser developers and not the developers that made those games good. CanYouDiglt
1st Party: Hot Shots Golf Killzone (Unreleased) Tearaway (Unreleased) Unit 13 Wipeout 2048 Outsourced: Little Big Planet Resistance Uncharted Sony are supporting the PS Vita with their 1st Party more then they have outsourced development on the Vita.

The only big one is Killzone and is GG doing that?

Yes, they're co-developing it with Sony Cambridge.
#30 Posted by CanYouDiglt (7643 posts) -
[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] 1st Party: Hot Shots Golf Killzone (Unreleased) Tearaway (Unreleased) Unit 13 Wipeout 2048 Outsourced: Little Big Planet Resistance Uncharted Sony are supporting the PS Vita with their 1st Party more then they have outsourced development on the Vita.

The only big one is Killzone and is GG doing that?

Yes, they're co-developing it with Sony Cambridge.

Well that is good news for that game then.
#31 Posted by Comduter (2274 posts) -

People didn't want watered down console games on vita to begin with amirite?ultraking
Of course, but that's not what they're getting. So it's not even an issue worth mentioning.

#32 Posted by PCgameruk (1512 posts) -

This is very old news. They said ages ago they are not going to start a vita bioshock until bioshock infinite is finished.

Just another Vita hate thread:roll:

#33 Posted by FlamesOfGrey (7511 posts) -

This is very old news. They said ages ago they are not going to start a vita bioshock until bioshock infinite is finished.

Just another Vita hate thread:roll:

PCgameruk
Indeed however, this does show that Sony aren't on the ball with making sure these games are coming out (This game would more some systems with core gamers for sure). Even though development wouldn't start until Bioshock Infinite is out, Sony should have made sure this game was a lock to be developed and not have a question mark over it.
#34 Posted by ShadowDeathX (10944 posts) -
I wasn't expecting to play it anyways. Unless I see a trailer of the game (with gameplay), I consider the game non-existent.
#36 Posted by p4s2p0 (4167 posts) -

The premise of the Vita was flawed from the start. How much does it cost to develop a high profiled AAA console game 10-20 million. Even more for higher profiled games. Who's gonna put that money behind the Vita for games when the install base in nonexistance. "Console quality on the go" has been a failure for Sony from the start.

jimmypsn
Psp was successful with that same ideology ."console quality on the go". So I wouldn't say it was a failure from the start.
#37 Posted by ShuichiChamp24 (5014 posts) -

Not surprised, to assume I was would be, not the brightest of thoughts

#38 Posted by bonesawisready5 (4962 posts) -
I called it! I totally called it! First the Resident Evil logo for PSP, then the "COD is coming to Vita" talk for months with no game to show and then we find out Nihilistic took 5 months to develop it and look at how bad it came out. I was telling people that simply showing a logo for a theoretical game back at E3 wasn't a good idea. That could end up being like Resident Evil PSP. Honestly with no sign of a long term boost in Vita hardware/software sales why even make it if it isn't a port? The budget would have to be very, very small to turn a profit.
#39 Posted by bonesawisready5 (4962 posts) -
[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

The premise of the Vita was flawed from the start. How much does it cost to develop a high profiled AAA console game 10-20 million. Even more for higher profiled games. Who's gonna put that money behind the Vita for games when the install base in nonexistance. "Console quality on the go" has been a failure for Sony from the start.

p4s2p0
Psp was successful with that same ideology ."console quality on the go". So I wouldn't say it was a failure from the start.

But consumer interest in America and Europe (anywhere outside of Japan) in a handheld that can produce 'console quality on the go' was on a huge decline since 2008. After 2008 and every year after PSP sales in America fell 50% nearly each year. I'd argue that coming up with a 'console quality on the go' handheld a second time with the Vita after the general non-Japanese consumer wasn't interested in that on the PSP for 3-4 years straight was starting off badly. Don't get me wrong, the Vita is a great console with a good library and it has a solid future. But it would have had a better future had it not be as expensive, powerful, and focused more on having unique handheld versions of games that can't be found anywhere else instead of getting PS3 downports like the PSP received so many PS2 ports. Just IMO.
#40 Posted by p4s2p0 (4167 posts) -
I called it! I totally called it! First the Resident Evil logo for PSP, then the "COD is coming to Vita" talk for months with no game to show and then we find out Nihilistic took 5 months to develop it and look at how bad it came out.bonesawisready5
How did cod turn out bad? Most of the people I've talked to like it as I do. Missing zombies is the only real complaint I've heard.
#41 Posted by GreySeal9 (25991 posts) -

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]I called it! I totally called it! First the Resident Evil logo for PSP, then the "COD is coming to Vita" talk for months with no game to show and then we find out Nihilistic took 5 months to develop it and look at how bad it came out.p4s2p0
How did cod turn out bad? Most of the people I've talked to like it as I do. Missing zombies is the only real complaint I've heard.

The multitude of negative reviewers explain why the game is bad in a pretty comprehensive way.

Also, the user score is 5.8. It seems that you're not talking to enough people.

#42 Posted by Ghost120x (4356 posts) -
Sony lost all 3rd party with this device. They are going to have to do what Nintendo did with the GameCube and support the system themselves with a bunch of 1st party development.
#43 Posted by p4s2p0 (4167 posts) -
[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"] Don't get me wrong, the Vita is a great console with a good library and it has a solid future. But it would have had a better future had it not be as expensive, powerful, and focused more on having unique handheld versions of games that can't be found anywhere else instead of getting PS3 downports like the PSP received so many PS2 ports. Just IMO.

Sony has more unique games this gen and look where its getting them, so far anyway. Out of my first 5 games on psp 4 were ports while on vita its only 2/5. So while people are saying that is what it needs, the market must not agree.
#44 Posted by PatchMaster (6013 posts) -

This reminds me of resident evil PSP. King_Dodongo

That's exactly what I compared it to when it was first "announced" ...and here we are.

#45 Posted by Newhopes (4699 posts) -

And this is why sales matter.

#46 Posted by p4s2p0 (4167 posts) -

[QUOTE="p4s2p0"][QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]I called it! I totally called it! First the Resident Evil logo for PSP, then the "COD is coming to Vita" talk for months with no game to show and then we find out Nihilistic took 5 months to develop it and look at how bad it came out.GreySeal9

How did cod turn out bad? Most of the people I've talked to like it as I do. Missing zombies is the only real complaint I've heard.

The multitude of negative reviewers explain why the game is bad in a pretty comprehensive way.

Also, the user score is 5.8. It seems that you're not talking to enough people.

I asked to see if anyone had their own opinion on the matter. The 5.8 user score is only out of 72 people. Can anyone vote on that or do they have to own the game like on psn? Which rated it 4/5 out of 951 people.
#47 Posted by GamerwillzPS (8531 posts) -

There's the problem. A PC & console game on a handheld...

Vita should stop being a wannabe of other systems and find its own identity.

#48 Posted by Wiimotefan (4145 posts) -

There's the problem. A PC & console game on a handheld...

Vita should stop being a wannabe of other systems and find its own identity.

GamerwillzPS

GoEnglish_com_ThePotCallingTheKettleBlac

#49 Posted by GamerwillzPS (8531 posts) -

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

There's the problem. A PC & console game on a handheld...

Vita should stop being a wannabe of other systems and find its own identity.

Wiimotefan

GoEnglish_com_ThePotCallingTheKettleBlac

Well, I'm not a fanboy like you.

#50 Posted by Wiimotefan (4145 posts) -

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

There's the problem. A PC & console game on a handheld...

Vita should stop being a wannabe of other systems and find its own identity.

GamerwillzPS

GoEnglish_com_ThePotCallingTheKettleBlac

Well, I'm not a fanboy like you.

Mmm hmm. I like my PC, PS3, Wii and to a lesser extent, my 360. Such a fanboy.

Anyways, nice dodge lol.