Applying the logic that the PS3 won 2009 to the entire gen. (PS3 didn't win)

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#1 Silverbond
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Hello, System Wars. *sigh*

As you can see, I'm not particularly happy. Believe me, by the end of this thread, I will make believers out of all of you. You will join me in my palace of wisdom or you can stand outside to be a "rebel." In this thread, I will use only facts. Only facts. I will present to you irrefutable proof that will sway you to my side. The side that isn't necessarily a fanboy, but a side that is enlightened. There is no room for fanboys in my palace of wisdom. Let's get started shall we?

Lately, as I've scoured across the wasteland that is System Wars, I've noticed someting. I pray this thread won't be locked, because this thread isn't responding to anything. This thread is absolutely necessary. Anyway, I've noticed that the vast majority of posters are saying the PS3 won 2009. That just isn't true. SAYING THE PS3 WON 2009 IS LIKE SAYING THE PLAYSTATION 3 IS WINNING THE WHOLE GENERATION. That just isn't true.

The PS3 has a couple of more AAAE than the PC this year. But, the PS3 is getting the hell beaten out of it in AAEs and AEs. But, the PS3 still won 2009. Why do people say this? Why are they the vast majority? Why is the truth not coming out? Why am I apparently the only one who sees this? The PS3 received a very thourough ass kicking this year. I'm sorry if you don't agree, but what I'm saying is true.

"Well, to me-------"
Stop. Just stop. If that's what you're bringing to this thread then just don't contribute. Your opinion=/= to fact.

"You're using opinion noob!"
No, I'm not. This all comes from the spreadsheet. All official.

Now, let's move on.

If you think the PS3 is won 2009 then you must think the PS3 won the gen. The situations are exactly the same. The PS3 has AAAAE. One AAAAE. But, the PC doesn't have any AAAAE at all. None. Zip. Zero. But, just like in 2009, The PC kicks the PS3 5 ways to Sunday in EVERY OTHER CATEGORY. But, the PS3 still has that one AAAAE, right? :|

No. If you honestly think a couple of games is better than tons (and the Silverbond means TONS) of excellent ones then this thread probably isn't for you. I'm trying to save those that can be enlightened. It is possible to realize the PS3 lost this year.

There is no way the PS3 is winning this gen. None at all. It ain't happening. The PC is just to awesome. Now let's look at 2009 and we see the same thing. Except, instead of one AAAAE we see three AAAE more than the PC. The PC still has a AAAE along with numerous AAEs and AEs and yet the PS3 won 2009. :|

I cannot understand why people are so unenlightened. I'm an honest System Warrior. I've been called a cow, lem, sheep, and you all will crucify me as a hermit. With this thread, I will wrongfully be known as a hermit. The naysayers without facts will insult me. Flame me. They cannot be saved. But, I believe the majority of you PS3 supporters will agree with most of the things I've said. Perhaps I'm too optimistic. I don't know. If you have fatcs against me, then by all means show me where I'm wrong. Show me. I hope you all are suing facts. I don't want to hear what you think. I want to hear why I'm wrong and want to hear it with facts as to why I'm wrong.

Please read OP before voting.
It seems my only mentioning AEs (notice the E?) still gets people to think that they can bring up total library. I will ignore you. This thread is OBVIOUSLY about exclusvies.

For the lazy:
If the PS3 won 2009 then you are also saying it won the gen. Hopefully, not many people think this.

Spreadsheet for the gen
Spreadsheet for 2009

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#2 Phoenix534
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You know, at first, I thought this was going to be some bash on the PS3. But now that I read it, I kinda see where you're coming from.

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#3 Yankees718
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You know, at first, I thought this was going to be some bash on the PS3. But now that I read it, I kinda see where you're coming from.

Phoenix534

Guess I'll play devils advocate:

No, cows will look from September on and say the ps3 won...WOW 3 months

I tried my best

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#4 Silverbond
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You know, at first, I thought this was going to be some bash on the PS3. But now that I read it, I kinda see where you're coming from.

Phoenix534

I'm glad you at least read the thread before posting. I'm also glad you at least recognized my point.

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#5 deactivated-5fc147aeeb0aa
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PC always wins, it should me a competition for 2nd place.

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#6 tehsystemwarior
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Well it Kind of makes sense, but you could use some more facts on where the PC is beating the PS3.
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#7 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

You know, at first, I thought this was going to be some bash on the PS3. But now that I read it, I kinda see where you're coming from.

Silverbond

I'm glad you at least read the thread before posting. I'm also glad you at least recognized my point.

This is probably the first time I've ever agreed with you :P Also, I'd vote, but my cmoputer is being stupid and won't let me. I don't know, but I'll vote when/if I can.

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#8 Silverbond
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I see votes saying I'm wrong and yet... no one is here to say why. To prove why.

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#9 Phoenix534
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I see votes saying I'm wrong and yet... no one is here to say why. To prove why.

Silverbond

Well, it is System Wars. Most people here seem to believe "You're wrong" to be a valid arguement.

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Ok, remember those other years where ppl said 360 or wii won 200x because of exclusive game X. This is the same idea, yet it's the ps3. Give it a rest, ppl are overreacting since this is the first time that a ps3 game has a big chance to win GOTY. I really didn't see many ppl making threads like this during the years when the 360 or wii had a great year.

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#11 deactivated-5fc147aeeb0aa
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I see votes saying I'm wrong and yet... no one is here to say why. To prove why.

Silverbond

PC bashers. Yet they are using a computer right now.

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#12 bphan
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I will continue to buy games for my 360. And the numbers will speak for themselves.

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#13 Nonstop-Madness
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The gen doesn't end until it ends ....... the PS3 has just had a big comeback this year with AAAE's, high sales, PS3 Slim ...... the future looks bright.
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#14 Phoenix534
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Give it a rest, ppl are overreacting since this is the first time that a ps3 game has a big chance to win GOTY.

silentkill62696

Umm...Remember a little game called Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots?

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#15 Silverbond
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Ok, remember those other years where ppl said 360 or wii won 200x because of exclusive game X. This is the same idea, yet it's the ps3. Give it a rest, ppl are overreacting since this is the first time that a ps3 game has a big chance to win GOTY. I really didn't see many ppl making threads like this during the years when the 360 or wii had a great year.

silentkill62696

PS3 won GoTY in 2008.

And the PS3 did have a great year. It didn't win this year, but this year was great. SW needs to learn this.

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#16 ksko
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yes the ps3 won:)

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#17 deactivated-5fc147aeeb0aa
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I will continue to buy games for my 360. And the numbers will speak for themselves.

bphan

How is this related to the subject?

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#18 Drakes_Fortune
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Here comes the PC fanboys, they are the worst of all.
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#19 deactivated-5fc147aeeb0aa
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[QUOTE="silentkill62696"]

Give it a rest, ppl are overreacting since this is the first time that a ps3 game has a big chance to win GOTY.

Phoenix534

Umm...Remember a little game called Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots?

Or LBP?

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#20 asyrian758
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http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27105216&page=0


I'm no hermit. I don't even game on my PC..

Silverbond

You claim PC wins yet in this thread you explain you never game on your pc? Makes sense...........:roll:

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#21 dragonfly110
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nice topic, liked the arguments, was going to take the poll seriously. But then I saw the last option and had no choice but to pick it.

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#22 tehsystemwarior
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Ok, remember those other years where ppl said 360 or wii won 200x because of exclusive game X. This is the same idea, yet it's the ps3. Give it a rest, ppl are overreacting since this is the first time that a ps3 game has a big chance to win GOTY. I really didn't see many ppl making threads like this during the years when the 360 or wii had a great year.

silentkill62696

What?

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#23 alextherussian
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Kind of sad but the general trend seems to be to compare the PS3 to only the 360. This is then followed by calling on the PC to make L4D or other such games be irrelevant in arguments. I wouldn't say people are unenlightened (fancy wording), rather that, like in any debate, they will completely avoid arguing points that do not help them. The PC just does not help a "PS3 won" argument.....
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#24 Yankees718
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[QUOTE="silentkill62696"]

Ok, remember those other years where ppl said 360 or wii won 200x because of exclusive game X. This is the same idea, yet it's the ps3. Give it a rest, ppl are overreacting since this is the first time that a ps3 game has a big chance to win GOTY. I really didn't see many ppl making threads like this during the years when the 360 or wii had a great year.

tehsystemwarior

What?

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#25 Silverbond
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yes the ps3 won:)

ksko

Why? Facts? Proof? No?

Then go find some. If you're right then I'll admit I was wrong.

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[QUOTE="ksko"]

yes the ps3 won:)

Silverbond

Why? Facts? Proof? No?

Then go find some. If you're right then I'll admit.

what are some good PC exclusives again?
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#27 Silverbond
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http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27105216&page=0

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]
I'm no hermit. I don't even game on my PC..

asyrian758

You claim PC wins yet in this thread you explain you never game on your pc?:

Like I said, I'm an honest poster. I know when my system is getting the hell beaten out of it.

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#28 silentkill62696
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[QUOTE="silentkill62696"]

Give it a rest, ppl are overreacting since this is the first time that a ps3 game has a big chance to win GOTY.

Phoenix534

Umm...Remember a little game called Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots?

Lol, i actually forgot that MGS4 won GOTY for 2008 in GS. I thought it was fallout 3 since it won on G4, totally forgot.
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#29 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="ksko"]

yes the ps3 won:)

Drakes_Fortune

Why? Facts? Proof? No?

Then go find some. If you're right then I'll admit.

what are some good PC exclusives again?

All of them are in the spreadsheet. :)

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I completely agree :)
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So, you're entire logic is based on 'I have lots of AAE, therefore I win'. Okay, that's wonderful for you, sadly your argument is just as bad if not worse than the PS3 club. Hell, this kind of logic allows Wii to win with shovel ware, I mean surely having tons of shovel ware wins over a few better games, right. I'm a PC fan myself, and spend the grand bulk of my gaming time on PC, but even I see that PC had a weak year and a bunch of AAs don't change that (hell, looking at GR, PS3 wins counting the AAs too). Get over it (and no, you can point to GS all you like, I don't give a *bleep*, one site is way more prone to point errors than an amalgam site).
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#32 thens1563
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Do you have a spreadsheet for just this year?

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#33 silentkill62696
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[QUOTE="tehsystemwarior"]

[QUOTE="silentkill62696"]

Ok, remember those other years where ppl said 360 or wii won 200x because of exclusive game X. This is the same idea, yet it's the ps3. Give it a rest, ppl are overreacting since this is the first time that a ps3 game has a big chance to win GOTY. I really didn't see many ppl making threads like this during the years when the 360 or wii had a great year.

Yankees718

What?

i get the idea, i totally forgot that MGS4 won 2008 on GS, thought it was fallout3, since it won on g4, mixed it up.
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#34 bphan
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When can Lemmings claim they've beaten the PS3. I want a certain date.

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#35 Silverbond
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Do you have a spreadsheet for just this year?

thens1563

I'll find it. There is one, but it might take a while to find it.

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#36 DarkLink77
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I have to say, TC, I agree. But then, I knew I would, simply because, from a numbers perspective, PC always wins. Always.


It is nice to see someone argue with numbers for once.

Can I come into the palace now? It looks fancy.... ;)

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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="silentkill62696"]

Give it a rest, ppl are overreacting since this is the first time that a ps3 game has a big chance to win GOTY.

silentkill62696

Umm...Remember a little game called Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots?

Lol, i actually forgot that MGS4 won GOTY for 2008 in GS. I thought it was fallout 3 since it won on G4, totally forgot.

I didn't get to try MGSIV until this year so I never really knew why it received the award. I still don't really know. I enjoyed Fallout 3 much more.
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#38 dragonfly110
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When can Lemmings claim they've beaten the PS3. I want a certain date.

bphan

yes because TC's post had everythign to do with lemmings and nothing to do with the PC.

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[QUOTE="thens1563"]

Do you have a spreadsheet for just this year?

Silverbond

I'll find it. There is one, but it might take a while to find it.

I think stevo_the_gamer has one in his sig, we need him in this thread.

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#40 DonPerian
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A system winning something in and of itself is illogical so your whole argument is rendered null and void.
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#41 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="thens1563"]

Do you have a spreadsheet for just this year?

thens1563

I'll find it. There is one, but it might take a while to find it.

I think stevo_the_gamer has one in his sig, we need him in this thread.

I found it. Here it is.

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#42 asyrian758
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Lets see, in of 2009,

Ps3 has:

13 AAA

19 AA

PC has:

6 AAA

24 AA

Now, which would you go with?

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#43 Silverbond
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Lets see, in of 2009,

Ps3 has:

13 AAA

19 AA

PC has:

6 AAA

24 AA

Now, which would you go with?

asyrian758

It's fairly obvious I'm talking exclusives.

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#44 TintedEyes
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The PS3 won 2009.
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#45 thens1563
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[QUOTE="thens1563"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

I'll find it. There is one, but it might take a while to find it.

Silverbond

I think stevo_the_gamer has one in his sig, we need him in this thread.

I found it. Here it is.

Ah thanks.

In terms of exclusives, you're absolutely right.

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#46 djsifer01
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Sony is leaps and bounds ahead fo the competition in what i expect from a gaming platform, except there network. So, yes, Sony has won already by catering best to my gaming tastes.
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[QUOTE="silentkill62696"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Umm...Remember a little game called Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots?

shawn7324

Lol, i actually forgot that MGS4 won GOTY for 2008 in GS. I thought it was fallout 3 since it won on G4, totally forgot.

I didn't get to try MGSIV until this year so I never really knew why it received the award. I still don't really know. I enjoyed Fallout 3 much more.

yea, MGS4 is really made for the fans of the series. I love the series too, but i actually didn't like MGS4 as much as MGS3. It's really just opinions in the end. However, this also means that TC is also wrong. TC can't deny the fact that him saying or using the numbers of reviewers to determine which platform won the year is an opinion. He is at the same time condemning the majority that are saying the ps3 won this year. Now, who would be more right in this argument, the majority or the reviewers? Seriously, it all boils down to opinions and is pointless in the end.

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#48 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="ksko"]

yes the ps3 won:)

Drakes_Fortune

Why? Facts? Proof? No?

Then go find some. If you're right then I'll admit.

what are some good PC exclusives again?

  • Shattered Horizon
  • Torchlight
  • Sims 3
  • Empire: Total War(sorta)
  • Tropico 3
  • Machinarium
  • King's Bounty: Armored Princess

Just to name a few.

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#50 Silverbond
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The PS3 won 2009.TintedEyes

No it didn't.

See how easy that was? Bring some facts, bro. Bring some proof.