AMD say PC ports of next gen games are likely to struggle on Intel tech

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#51 dxmcat
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Quit making sub-par CPUs that can be mistaken for space heaters. Then AMD can talk.

I am by no means wanting Intel to have a monopoly, but AMD is just lazy and tooting their horn of bullshit. AMD has always been 2nd rate to Intel.

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#52 DarthRamms
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Integrated graphic card lol its not ideal to game on those but anyways Intel makes great CPU that's about it
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#53 AdrianWerner
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Well..Intel has made huge progress with integrated GPUs, but they obviously still have ways to go. It's irrelevant though.On both laptops and desktops Intel + Nvidia combo will likely beat AMD parts.

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#54 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

:lol:What a joke title, well played TC.

LordSadic

What, why? It's the official statement given by the Manager of Gaming Engineering at AMD.

I think this could only be an issue if a huge leap between both architectures is present.

Because it won't happen on powerful Intel cpus.

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#55 jun_aka_pekto
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People still game on IGPs?faizan_faizan

I've seen plenty of laptop owners (in campus) try to during lunchtime and breaks. Some games seem to run okay. Not my cup of tea though.

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#56 Bebi_vegeta
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Hyperthreading.

topgunmv

Which is used by intel...

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#57 Bebi_vegeta
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Nvidia Done.

Enjoy your $1000+ Titan card that has less GDDR5 than PS4.

EvanTheGamer

Bravo for not understanding why...

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#58 cfisher2833
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Nvidia Done.

Enjoy your $1000+ Titan card that has less GDDR5 than PS4.

EvanTheGamer

 

 :roll: Yeah, too bad that Titan with its 6Gb of GDDR5 doesn't perform any bit better than a 780 and its 3Gb of VRAM. You would think people on this forum would get by now that VRAM is not the be all end all that determines a GPU's capabilities. 

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#59 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]People still game on IGPs?jun_aka_pekto

I've seen plenty of laptop owners (in campus) try to during lunchtime and breaks. Some games seem to run okay. Not my cup of tea though.

It's becoming more and more viable. Plenty of games have low hardware requirements and haswell is powerful enough to run the rest of them on lowered settings

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#60 Mr_BillGates
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Even PC hardware makers are only expecting console ports instead of exclusives. :lol:

#beg4consoleports

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#61 Bebi_vegeta
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Even PC hardware makers are only expecting console ports instead of exclusives. :lol:

#beg4consoleports

Mr_BillGates

DRM begger, hello ?

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#62 AdrianWerner
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Even PC hardware makers are only expecting console ports instead of exclusives. :lol:

#beg4consoleports

Mr_BillGates

So salty almost every console game will be on PC next gen :lol:

#noexclusives4consoles

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#63 NoodleFighter
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[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

Nvidia Done.

Enjoy your $1000+ Titan card that has less GDDR5 than PS4.

cfisher2833

 

 :roll: Yeah, too bad that Titan with its 6Gb of GDDR5 doesn't perform any bit better than a 780 and its 3Gb of VRAM. You would think people on this forum would get by now that VRAM is not the be all end all that determines a GPU's capabilities. 

Cut them some slack they just found out about GDDR and VRAM :lol:

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#64 clyde46
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[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

Nvidia Done.

Enjoy your $1000+ Titan card that has less GDDR5 than PS4.

cfisher2833

 

 :roll: Yeah, too bad that Titan with its 6Gb of GDDR5 doesn't perform any bit better than a 780 and its 3Gb of VRAM. You would think people on this forum would get by now that VRAM is not the be all end all that determines a GPU's capabilities. 

Pretty sure the Titan will perform better at bigger resolutions.
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#65 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

:lol:What a joke title, well played TC.

LordSadic

What, why? It's the official statement given by the Manager of Gaming Engineering at AMD.

I think this could only be an issue if a huge leap between both architectures is present.

Btw, AMD plans to sell Kaveri APU in Q4 2013.
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#66 R4gn4r0k
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Pc ports. "Ports" being a keyword. Fact of the matter is most games will be created around consoles.Heirren

Where do you read that ?

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#67 ronvalencia
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Well..Intel has made huge progress with integrated GPUs, but they obviously still have ways to go. It's irrelevant though.On both laptops and desktops Intel + Nvidia combo will likely beat AMD parts.

AdrianWerner

On both laptops and desktops, Intel + AMD combo is competitive to Intel + NVIDIA combo parts.

In the past, NVIDIA has offered X86 CPU http://www.nvidia.com/page/uli_m6117c.html NVIDIA is reduced to copy-and-paste CPU designs from ARM.

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#68 Cranler
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This won't affect performance of Intel CPUs when paired with a discrete GPU though will it?BPoole96
Doesnt sound like it. This article only mentions Intel integrated gpu setups. Those with i3, i5 and i7's with discrete gpu's will be fine.
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#69 GarGx1
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I guess this is only relevant to people who want to build an HTPC or small form factor rig, without the need for a dedicated graphics card. i.e. a console buster.

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#70 HaloinventedFPS
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If they are really unoptimized yeah, wouldn't be surprised seeing i5/i7's getting bottlenecked because devs are lazy

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#71 HaloinventedFPS
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This maybe good though, it may force Intel to step up their game & get some cheap 6-8 core CPU's out in the market instead of milking the quad core i series dry

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#72 04dcarraher
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If they are really unoptimized yeah, wouldn't be surprised seeing i5/i7's getting bottlenecked because devs are lazy This maybe good though, it may force Intel to step up their game & get some cheap 6-8 core CPU's out in the market instead of milking the quad core i series dry

HaloinventedFPS

The only thing this coming up generation we have to worry about is control schemes. There will be no straight up bad ports anymore since they are using pc hardware based on x86 and current API's and AMD based gpu's. No need for intel to step up to 6-8 core standard yet, since their cpu's perform much better clock per clock then AMD's. An desktop intel i5(quad core) is multiple times faster then the 8 core jag's from consoles. Heck even AMD's 4 year old 3 ghz+ Phenom 2 X4's can out process these upcoming console cpu's. Not to mention that its rumored that the X1's 8 core will only have 6 cores usable for game use.

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#73 NFJSupreme
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who games on an integrated chip?
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#74 Idontremember
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If they are really unoptimized yeah, wouldn't be surprised seeing i5/i7's getting bottlenecked because devs are lazy

HaloinventedFPS

First game that came to mind is Skyrim...
Horrible CPU optimisation of the engine, so with so few cores being used, why not put the shadow on there to save some GPU power on those damn console...
When a 4 GHz I5/7 is falling below 60FPS because of one core at 100% while the other 3 are almost idle, you know the devs screwed up.

Well now next-gens have 8 cores, but shitty cores, so they can't do something similar anymore. 

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#75 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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lol at integrated gpu's.

They're a joke right now.

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#76 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

If they are really unoptimized yeah, wouldn't be surprised seeing i5/i7's getting bottlenecked because devs are lazy

Idontremember

First game that came to mind is Skyrim...
Horrible CPU optimisation of the engine, so with so few cores being used, why not put the shadow on there to save some GPU power on those damn console...
When a 4 GHz I5/7 is falling below 60FPS because of one core at 100% while the other 3 are almost idle, you know the devs screwed up.

Well now next-gens have 8 cores, but shitty cores, so they can't do something similar anymore. 

There was a patch shortly after the game released that addressed multicore usage. But also need to realize too that console versions of the game ran at 30 fps or less, long load times even before the patch you had better performance.
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#77 ShepardCommandr
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lol at integrated gpu's.

They're a joke right now.

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#78 EvanTheGamer
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]Pc ports. "Ports" being a keyword. Fact of the matter is most games will be created around consoles.R4gn4r0k

Where do you read that ?

Its pretty muc the norm, has been for the last 10 years.

PC games don't sell, Console games do.

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#79 Cyberdot
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Turns out that the article is talking about integrated graphics.

I'm laughing right now. Who the hell plays games with that stuff?

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#80 redskins26rocs
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[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]Pc ports. "Ports" being a keyword. Fact of the matter is most games will be created around consoles.EvanTheGamer

Where do you read that ?

Its pretty muc the norm, has been for the last 10 years.

PC games don't sell, Console games do.

Look at all these poor sales http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PC_games
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#81 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Hyperthreading.

Bebi_vegeta

Which is used by intel...

Which is why I mentioned it...

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#82 kipsta77
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AMD? ahahahha!

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#83 com2006
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So a low budget solution is going to struggle, where is the news?

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#84 HalcyonScarlet
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Even if Intel sponsors the game?

I like how they target the iGP factor when really only super budget gamers would be bothered buy this

 

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/06/07/amd-say-pc-ports-of-next-generation-console-titles-are-likely-to-struggle-on-intel-tech/?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=emp

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I think you're taking this personally as if he's making a statement against PC gaming. He's specifically talking about the new Intel IGP that is designed for gaming.