4d graphics???

If someone made 4d graphics we wouldn't be able to see it. At least not past the 3rd d. You see we live in 3d and see everything with length, heigth and width. We don't use enough of our brains to even comprhend much less notice anything in 4d. Newton maby us no.meetroid8

I laughed so hard at this, serously. No the misconception is that for some strange reason people (like you) think we use like 10% of our brain or something, which is absolutely not true. Take a psychology class, learn how the brain works and you'll regret ever making such statements.

4d can exist. its time.

ex: you play an rpg , and your character grows older. metal from cars rust in a racing game. trees and flowers grow and die.

MasterKillo

i knew it was time but never thought of it in games, great call!

Only the Sony Playstation 3 can do 4d graphics...http://www.psu.com/4D-Graphics--A-Reality-Only-For-PlayStation-3--a0001063-p0.php

comstrikeiscool

I don't think it has even been proven that time is the fourth dimension. If time is constant, which so far it certainly appears to be, then that would apparently make time the 0 dimension, and the 4thdimension unknown.

And something else: Length, width, and height are spatial dimensions. Is time spatial?

What most of you guys who say some games are calling 4d is NOT 4d. It's the passage of time, not time itself.

Osafune24

General and Special relativity are pretty well understood and supported. There have been experiments that show that at high speeds, time appears to slow down for that object from our frame of reference. (2 synchronized clocks, one in the lab reference frame the other at high speeds return to find that they are no longer in synch.. this is time dillation). Spacetime continuum model generally treats time as a fourth dimension, though it can also break time up into more dimensions.

In our everday life, time is constant and seperate from mechanical motions.. or so it appears.. due to the small mass/densities and velocities we deal in. This is the classical limit. The theories of relativity still hold true, its just that the speeds we move at are negligible compared to the speed of light, which makes the relativistic correction negligible.. reducing these equations to the classical ones.

EDIT: time as a "spatial" coordinate: from what i understand, it is not. However, there is an interesting explanation involving black holes(particularly the effects beyond the event horizon) which basically states that the extreme gravity of the singularity(black hole) warps the spacetime such that time basically points inwards towards the singularity. This means that you will inevitably hit the singularity, as time only points towards it.

Maybe 4D graphics can be used as an allusion to the 4th wall in cinema. Other than that, I'm drawing a blank.

What exactly is 4d? How is it different from 3d? Is it just having a very realistic, super HD graphic? How is it going to help gaming?

Nikko_25

DDJ: I'm familiar with 3D textures. But what are 4D textures?

SD: 4D here stands for 3D + Time. 4D textures means evolving textures, evolving environments and games. On our web site we showcase a demo around that idea, where a bathroom goes from a clean state to a dirty state in real-time.

Procedural textures, because they are driven by parameters, can be driven by time. And by letting time go by, the aspect of the textures can be changed, going for example from a clean state to a deprecated one.

Now imagine that applied to a game, where the whole environment and characters are changing, evolving, according to time but also to your actions within that environment. Actual PCs and consoles can handle this, and I must say I can't wait to see games using this as a feature.

http://www.ddj.com/hpc-high-performance-computing/201800372

4D can never Exist. Our Brains couldnt even begin to process it. black_awpN1

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]4D can never Exist. Our Brains couldnt even begin to process it. codymchargue

Why would you create an account just to necro a 2007 thread? Really, why?

What exactly is 4d? How is it different from 3d? Is it just having a very realistic, super HD graphic? How is it going to help gaming?

Nikko_25

4d was nothing but the usual bs cow food hype by sony to make the ps3 seem like it is the god of all creation with its mighty cell and rsx 300 peta flop bs

Lots of the dimensions don't actually have a visible element. You can't see things like time, and probability, but you can see the outcomes of them.

Like, you'd never say a game like Zelda: OoT was in 4D because Link grew 7 years older at one point in the game. That's not how it works.

3D is the best you'll get in terms of what we can see with, as I said, visible outcomes of the other dimensions also possible. Grass growing, seasons changing, and whatever else.

[QUOTE="Nikko_25"]

What exactly is 4d? How is it different from 3d? Is it just having a very realistic, super HD graphic? How is it going to help gaming?

King_of_Sorrow

It's not 4d graphics what people on here think. It was about the 4th dimension bringing a more immerse environment. Sony never said it could do 4d graphics.

4D can never Exist. Our Brains couldnt even begin to process it. black_awpN1

The real fourth dimension is Time. And while some people seem less able to process it accurately than others, it certainly won't cause your brain to explode :P

The "Sony-fied" 4d gaming experience was to create a mor immersive gaming experience. It's purely an advertising slogan, like "Live in your world. Play in ours."

What exactly is 4d? How is it different from 3d? Is it just having a very realistic, super HD graphic? How is it going to help gaming?

Nikko_25

4D can never Exist. Our Brains couldnt even begin to process it. black_awpN1

Lots of the dimensions don't actually have a visible element. You can't see things like time, and probability, but you can see the outcomes of them.

Like, you'd never say a game like Zelda: OoT was in 4D because Link grew 7 years older at one point in the game. That's not how it works.

3D is the best you'll get in terms of what we can see with, as I said, visible outcomes of the other dimensions also possible. Grass growing, seasons changing, and whatever else.

I once read a book about the big bang which said that at the exact moment that the universe was created, everything existed in 13 dimensions! This then stabilised to the 3 we see today plus time. How they worked that out is anyones guess.Valine_Dell

It was a claim supposed to resonate the jump from 2D to 3D. It doesn't actually mean anything, Sony just used it as PR crap.

To the people saying time, there is no agreement in the scientific community as to what the 4th dimension means, nor would having variable time in a game be new.

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]If someone made 4d graphics we wouldn't be able to see it. At least not past the 3rd d. You see we live in 3d and see everything with length, heigth and width. We don't use enough of our brains to even comprhend much less notice anything in 4d. Newton maby us no.lightningbugx

If you can multitask, you can comprehend 5 dimensions. You have a 4 dimension perception of each item you are working on. And as long as you can recall history and predict future, you are perceiving in at least 4 dimensions.

You can consider the 4th dimension in graphics as the frame rate of a 3-d object moving. In such, every console is capable of 4D graphics.

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]4D can never Exist. Our Brains couldnt even begin to process it. codymchargue

Holograms?

Ummm it has something to do with making textures that age and change over time with changes in the environment. Maybe the dude's shirt getting wet and then getting dry is an example for Uncharted.JiveT