4d graphics???

What exactly is 4d? How is it different from 3d? Is it just having a very realistic, super HD graphic? How is it going to help gaming?

What exactly is 4d? How is it different from 3d? Is it just having a very realistic, super HD graphic? How is it going to help gaming?

Nikko_25

It's not 4d graphics what people on here think. It was about the 4th dimension bringing a more immerse environment. Sony never said it could do 4d graphics.

4d can exist. its time.

ex: you play an rpg , and your character grows older. metal from cars rust in a racing game. trees and flowers grow and die.

Ummm it has something to do with making textures that age and change over time with changes in the environment. Maybe the dude's shirt getting wet and then getting dry is an example for Uncharted.JiveT

You wouldwant to give an example of man with a wet t-shirt...

4d can exist. its time.

ex: you play an rpg , and your character grows older. metal from cars rust in a racing game. trees and flowers grow and die.

MasterKillo

except for the car thats fable all over.

It was a claim supposed to resonate the jump from 2D to 3D. It doesn't actually mean anything, Sony just used it as PR crap.

To the people saying time, there is no agreement in the scientific community as to what the 4th dimension means, nor would having variable time in a game be new.

Humans can't see in 4d.
Hell, no animal on this planet can.

We live in a 3d world. Uh... Dunno how to explain this to you.
o_x If I brought up 5d you'd probably implode.

To the people saying time, there is no agreement in the scientific community as to what the 4th dimension means

Danm_999

Just because it's not agreed upon, does not mean people don't believe it to be so.

4d can exist. its time.

ex: you play an rpg , and your character grows older. metal from cars rust in a racing game. trees and flowers grow and die.

MasterKillo

So you saw that story on Sony Defense Force? I got a good laugh out of that.

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What exactly is 4d? How is it different from 3d? Is it just having a very realistic, super HD graphic? How is it going to help gaming?

King_of_Sorrow

It's not 4d graphics what people on here think. It was about the 4th dimension bringing a more immerse environment. Sony never said it could do 4d graphics.

Ok then what is in youre words "the fourth dimension"?

Why cant you cows just admit that this was just a stupid comment on sonys part?

I think if you say a persons name backwards, tehy go to the fourth deminson. Oh wait, thats a guy from Superman, never mind.

The 4th demention is USUALLY reffered to as time. Its not a hard set definition though.

dots -> 2d -> 3d -> 3d space with a time element applied onto the space. (actually IN the space, not just occuring WITh the space).

It's not impossible, I mean it's implemented in some games like Onimusha 3, Metal Gear Solid 3, Prince of Persia series, and it's not just about the graphics.SOedipus

Please elaborate on exactly what 4d is.

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I dunno but Killzone 2 will have it.DaysAirlines

That's a load of ****.

You and I both know that Killzone 2 renders in native 5D. :|

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To the people saying time, there is no agreement in the scientific community as to what the 4th dimension means

AnFangs_Endes

Just because it's not agreed upon, does not mean people don't believe it to be so.

True, but it's a realm of scientific contention, so the people who say it's time are assuming an awful lot.

4d can exist. its time.

ex: you play an rpg , and your character grows older. metal from cars rust in a racing game. trees and flowers grow and die.

MasterKillo

There is no such thing as 4D graphics. But when Sony said the PS3 can do 4D, that is what they meant. But even the PS1 could do that.

[QUOTE="SOedipus"]It's not impossible, I mean it's implemented in some games like Onimusha 3, Metal Gear Solid 3, Prince of Persia series, and it's not just about the graphics.grimhope

Please elaborate on exactly what 4d is.

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It deals with time added with the basic dimensions.

Cows know full well that Sony did not mean 'time' when they said the Ps3 offered a 4d gaming experiance.

It's a marketing ploy that is so insanely stupid I'm amazed that Cows even try to back it up.

Only the Sony Playstation 3 can do 4d graphics...http://www.psu.com/4D-Graphics--A-Reality-Only-For-PlayStation-3--a0001063-p0.php

First through the fifth dimension.

What exactly is 4d? How is it different from 3d? Is it just having a very realistic, super HD graphic? How is it going to help gaming?

Nikko_25

4d is real

its the inclusion of the passage of time. for example, in a virtual rainstorm, any wooden objects would actually begin to decay (however noticeably slow)

4d refers to 4 dimensions. The first 3 dimensions are length, width, and height. The 4th dimension is time. If you want to consider the existance of a 5th dimension, that is choice.

I do know one 4d game, Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask.

As far as what dimensions humans can perceive, humans can perceive 5 dimensions. We interact with objects of 3 dimensions understanding the concept of time (4) through memory and prediction, and we can make choices by first thinking out possibilities (5th dimension).

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Curse you for making this topic. Now I am thinking too much again. (insert foul language)

It can be argued that 4D graphics do exist. Consider 3D as drawing an object with height, width, and depth. Now consider drawing the same object as it exists the next 1/60th of a second later, another 1/60th second later, another .016666... second later, and so on. Because you are drawing the next frame in time, you are providing a 4th dimension. Thus 4D is 3D in motion. Much like 5D as drawing the time frame of 1 hour later if I continue to think about this subject and drawing the time frame of 1 hour later if I do the right thing and stop thinking about it. Will there be a difference? In the first, I might be blogging my thoughts still, and the second is me in bed sleeping.

Four dimension(and beyond) spatial coordinate systems are discussed in mathematics and science.

However, when someone refers to a fourth dimension its generally understood that this is time unless otherwise specified. See spacetime, a mathematical model using both spatial and the time coordinates. Analysis using the fourth dimension, as time, becomes important in the relativistic limit(speeds close to the speed of light).. but not in the classical, that is in most things we'd experience everday.. where we treat time as constant, seperate from mechanics.

To my understanding, The fourth dimension isn't the 3 spatial coordinates and time, that falls into the category of a four dimensional coordinate system. The actual fourth dimension in this case would be time; just as the first three are x, y and z directions.

It was a stupid PR claim by Sony, don't think about it. It was only there to cause stupid people to get exited about the PS3Krisgebis

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yeah man i made the 4D when i was on the umm 2580 i am from THE FUTURE!the-obiwan

lol dude u rulz

If someone made 4d graphics we wouldn't be able to see it. At least not past the 3rd d. You see we live in 3d and see everything with length, heigth and width. We don't use enough of our brains to even comprhend much less notice anything in 4d. Newton maby us no.meetroid8

If you can multitask, you can comprehend 5 dimensions. You have a 4 dimension perception of each item you are working on. And as long as you can recall history and predict future, you are perceiving in at least 4 dimensions.

You can consider the 4th dimension in graphics as the frame rate of a 3-d object moving. In such, every console is capable of 4D graphics.

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]If someone made 4d graphics we wouldn't be able to see it. At least not past the 3rd d. You see we live in 3d and see everything with length, heigth and width. We don't use enough of our brains to even comprhend much less notice anything in 4d. Newton maby us no.lightningbugx

If you can multitask, you can comprehend 5 dimensions. You have a 4 dimension perception of each item you are working on. And as long as you can recall history and predict future, you are perceiving in at least 4 dimensions.

You can consider the 4th dimension in graphics as the frame rate of a 3-d object moving. In such, every console is capable of 4D graphics.

I don't think it has even been proven that time is the fourth dimension. If time is constant, which so far it certainly appears to be, then that would apparently make time the 0 dimension, and the 4thdimension unknown.

And something else: Length, width, and height are spatial dimensions. Is time spatial?

What most of you guys who say some games are calling 4d is NOT 4d. It's the passage of time, not time itself.

4D can never Exist. Our Brains couldnt even begin to process it. black_awpN1

Google the word "Hypercube".