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#1  Edited By Dasein808
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In 1995, I built my first PC.

Back then, Ziff Davis handled most benchmarking software under their Winmarks system. It's now 2015 and 3dmarks are standard of the day.

I upgraded my PC of 4 years this past past week, and upon completion, I decided to look for some benchmarking software to see how things have changed in the past 20 years.

The advances of the internet have completely redefined traditional benchmarking in a way that now allows for the results of individual users to be archived, linked, and compared.

After viewing my results and noticing that they included an external link for sharing them, I realized that this may just be SW's answer to, "Your papers, please?" when a poster makes claim to hermitdom.

With that explanation aside, I encourage my fellow hermits to download and run the free 3dmark demo through steam:

3DMark

Share your results with the rest of us for praise/ridicule/questions as well as proof of hermit pedigree.

My results:

CLOUD GATE 1.1

Sky Diver 1.0

Fire Strike 1.1

Ice Storm

Commence the consolite rabbling.

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#2 freedomfreak
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You need , like, a $3000 PC to even get that running properly.

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#3  Edited By Dasein808
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@freedomfreak: 3DMark?

No.

The PC I just built cost < $2k.

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#4 freedomfreak
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@Dasein808: You can get a Ps4 for only $400. Less if you can find a good deal.

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#5 Dasein808
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@freedomfreak said:

@Dasein808: You can get a Ps4 for only $400. Less if you can find a good deal.

Yeah, but that's a console incapable of playing games at framerates and resolutions that have been the standard on PC for nearly a decade now...

It also has: no games, pay for online, etc.

I'm not seeing the allure.

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#6  Edited By freedomfreak
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@Dasein808 said:

Yeah, but that's a console incapable of playing games at framerates and resolutions that have been the standard on PC for nearly a decade now...

It also has: no games, pay for online, etc.

I'm not seeing the allure.

But it has games. And the paid online comes with free games every month. No charge. That's the brilliant part. You gotta see the allure in that.

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#7 Dasein808
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@freedomfreak said:

But it has games. And the paid online comes with free games every month. No charge. That's the brilliant part. You gotta see the allure in that.

Free games are still games which stop being "free" when you cease paying for online.

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#8 freedomfreak
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@Dasein808 said:

Free games are still games which stop being "free" when you cease paying for online.

Yeah, but why would you do that? There's games every month.

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#9 Salt_The_Fries
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@freedomfreak: TBH I don't care about 99% of those games. I rarely play Games with Gold.

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#10 freedomfreak
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@Salt_The_Fries: The GwG ones are shit though. I don't blame you for not checking 'em out.

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#11  Edited By Dasein808
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@freedomfreak said:

Yeah, but why would you do that? There's games every month.

Maybe it's just me, but because it's overpriced and I don't like playing in a corporately controlled playground subject to their demands.

I dunno man, I have not heard much praise from cows for brilliant PC games like Don't Starve.

I mean. it's not a movie game, but it is, imo, one of the best games of recent years, but all I read from consolites were complaints about the difficulty and it not being "next-gen" enough for them; in spite of all of its innovative themes and gameplay options.

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#12 freedomfreak
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@Dasein808 said:

Maybe it's just me, but because it's overpriced and I don't like playing in a corporately controlled playground subject to their demands.

I dunno man, I have not heard much praise from cows for brilliant PC games like Don't Starve.

I mean it's not a movie game, but it is, imo, one of the best games of recent years and all I read from consolites were complaints about the difficulty and it not being next-gen enough for them in spite of all of its innovative themes and gameplay options.

Yeah, Don't Starve is lovely. Same fellas got a new game out, you know? Invisible Inc.

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@Dasein808 said:

After viewing my results and noticing that they included an external link for sharing those results, I realized that this may just be SW's answer to, "Your papers, please?" when a poster makes claim to hermitdom.

Except PC gaming isn't about power, if you're trying to imply that. Graphics are just the icing on top. The hermits know this.

PC gaming is about choice, balance, mods and a shit ton of games first and foremost. For SWs purposes, sure, we argue the shit about everything.

I have an i5 and an overclocked GTX 750Ti which is more competent than you might think and I'm happy PC gaming. We shouldn't perpetuate this idea that people need a super powerful rig to enjoy themselves on the PC, when it's not really true anymore either. Gamers can get a lot out of something moderately powerful.

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#14 Dasein808
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@freedomfreak said:
@Dasein808 said:

Maybe it's just me, but because it's overpriced and I don't like playing in a corporately controlled playground subject to their demands.

I dunno man, I have not heard much praise from cows for brilliant PC games like Don't Starve.

I mean it's not a movie game, but it is, imo, one of the best games of recent years and all I read from consolites were complaints about the difficulty and it not being next-gen enough for them in spite of all of its innovative themes and gameplay options.

Yeah, Don't Starve is lovely. Same fellas got a new game out, you know? Invisible Inc.

Yep, I bought it the minute it hit early access.

KLEI rule.

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#15 lostrib
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Fanboy wars?

I believe the PC forum actually has a thread ranking submitted benchmark scores from GS PC gamers

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#16 Dasein808
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@Dasein808 said:

After viewing my results and noticing that they included an external link for sharing those results, I realized that this may just be SW's answer to, "Your papers, please?" when a poster makes claim to hermitdom.

Except PC gaming isn't about power, if you're trying to imply that. Graphics are just the icing on top. The hermits know this.

PC gaming is about choice, balance, mods and a shit ton of games first and foremost. For SWs purposes, sure, we argue the shit about everything.

I have an i5 and an overclocked GTX 750Ti which is more competent than you might think and I'm happy PC gaming. We shouldn't perpetuate this idea that people need a super powerful rig to enjoy themselves on the PC, when it's not really true anymore either. Gamers can get a lot out of something moderately powerful.

Yeah, I agree.

This is more of a means of resolving a seeming ongoing issue here at SW, that of the fakeboy.

3DMark provides the closest thing to "proof" of hermitdom given fakeboy accusations.

There's 0 shame in PC gaming on other hardware.

What matters is that people are PC gaming over console gaming regardless of the specs of their rigs.

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#17  Edited By NyaDC
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Firestrike 1.1: 16,059

The other tests are worthless when testing modern hardware configurations.

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#18 Dasein808
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@nyadc said:

Firestrike 1.1: 16,059

The other tests are worthless when testing modern hardware configurations.

Nice one.

Yeah, I just ran the suite of them, but I could definitely tell that Firestrike was the most intensive.

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#20 ShepardCommandr
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Too lazy to reinstall it

My gfx score on firestrike is ~22.000 on a single card.(take a guess which......)

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#21 clyde46
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@nyadcDat 2600K:

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#22 NyaDC
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@ShepardCommandr said:

Too lazy to reinstall it

My gfx score on firestrike is ~22.000 on a single card.(take a guess which......)

295X or a Titan Z, I'm going with the 295X as the Titan Z is a ridiculous amount of money.

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@nyadcDat 2600K:

Going to go out on a limb and says it's still one of the best CPU's ever made, the fact that it's now 2015, four years after it released and still only about 15-18% slower in gaming applications than the 4790k has made it a joy to own. I want to upgrade my CPU, I really do, but nothing has really justified it yet.

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#23  Edited By deactivated-583e460ca986b
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Lets go Hermits. Wake up!

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#24 eNT1TY
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My primary rig. And yeah 2600k is a fantastic cpu.

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#25 lostrib
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@eNT1TY said:

My primary rig. And yeah 2600k is a fantastic cpu.

...you took a picture of your screen

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#26 eNT1TY
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@lostrib said:
@eNT1TY said:

My primary rig. And yeah 2600k is a fantastic cpu.

...you took a picture of your screen

More personal and i got to use my phone camera for the 1st time in weeks...

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#27  Edited By Epak_
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@eNT1TY: Print screen lol.

Edit: My score is going to suck...

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#28 clyde46
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Fine fine, I'll download it now.

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#29  Edited By clyde46
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I reckon I could get a better score by overclocking both my GPU and CPU.

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#30 granddogg
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i will put mine up later today.....when im free........*resevered*

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#31  Edited By Epak_
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Gamespot eating posts again... Did the primary tests and got 5918. On Fire Strike that is.

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#33 Bruin1986
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@ConanTheStoner said:

The 980x was the best CPU on the market back when I built my rig in 2010. I got the i7 930 for $200 at Microcenter so I was happy. The 980x was over $1000 if I remember.

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#34 ConanTheStoner
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@Bruin1986:

Yep, built my machine in 2010 as well. And yep, I paid just over $1,000 for it, but god damn it was great for the time lol. It was overkill for gaming, but it was a god send for the 3d work I was doing.

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@GoldenElementXL said:

Lets go Hermits. Wake up!

Holy mother of god - you have twoTitan Blacks :-O

Out of curiosity, how much did you spend on your rig?

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#36 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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@IgGy621985: Around $4K without the monitor.

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#37 remiks00
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I feel like an idiot. How in the hell do I run the Firestrike test? Do I have to download anything?

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#38 ConanTheStoner
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@remiks00 said:

I feel like an idiot. How in the hell do I run the Firestrike test? Do I have to download anything?

Just download the demo from the Steam page, run it, and then run Firestrike 1.1

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#39 wolverine4262
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Idk. Maybe later. I really dont care about benchmarks though. Actual games are what matters.

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Dumb thread

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@GioVela2010 said:

Dumb thread

Sorry your consoles can't run 3DMark.

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@nyadc: There is no benchmark that can measure how much better games look on Giovela's Plasma T.V.

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@GoldenElementXL said:

@nyadc: There is no benchmark that can measure how much better games look on Giovela's Plasma T.V.

Haha.

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#45 Shewgenja
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This thread is dumb. Why not choose a free benchmark, instead?

Like this one

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@Shewgenja said:

This thread is dumb. Why not choose a free benchmark, instead?

Like this one

This is a free benchmark...

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@ConanTheStoner said:
@remiks00 said:

I feel like an idiot. How in the hell do I run the Firestrike test? Do I have to download anything?

Just download the demo from the Steam page, run it, and then run Firestrike 1.1

ah, okay. Thanks for that. I'll do it after I get home from work in the morning.

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#48 Shewgenja
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@nyadc said:
@Shewgenja said:

This thread is dumb. Why not choose a free benchmark, instead?

Like this one

This is a free benchmark...

Oh snap. I just saw the link to buy. Oops lol Downloading now.

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#49 eNT1TY
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My secondary rig (relegated to living room pc), a micro atx system with gigabyte mini itx 970s. Down clocked and down volted slightly to lower temps to below 70c on full load.

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#50 Postosuchus
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@nyadc said:

Going to go out on a limb and says it's still one of the best CPU's ever made, the fact that it's now 2015, four years after it released and still only about 15-18% slower in gaming applications than the 4790k has made it a joy to own. I want to upgrade my CPU, I really do, but nothing has really justified it yet.

OT, but isn't that more a testament to Intel's complacency due to a lack of competition? If AMD hadn't bet on bulldozer or gotten their act together after that disastrous architecture, I bet we'd be seeing a hell of a lot more than a 15% speed increase over 4 years.