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List of the "best" QBs available from free agency.

Good Lord, that is a bad list.

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It isn't so bad. T Jack, Campbell and Moore could all be decent options to groom a young QB behind.
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#102 No_Hablo_Ingles
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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"]Eagles hire their new defensive C. ... The Browns linebacker coach.

At least it wasn't another O-Line coach.

Funny thing is after we fired that O-Line coach our defense really fell apart...
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

List of the "best" QBs available from free agency.

Good Lord, that is a bad list.

monkeytoes61

It isn't so bad. T Jack, Campbell and Moore could all be decent options to groom a young QB behind.

I was sorely disappointed with how Campbell performed when we needed him this season.  It really seems to me that what matters more with backups is the team they're on.  Some teams, like Houston and Green Bay, just know how to keep backups primed for whatever reason.  Maybe they give them more reps in practice or have them work on one squad while the starter works on another (as opposed to "studying" the starter), but they can just bring people off the bench while other teams can't.  I know Martz never let the backup take reps and Tice basically picked up a lot of what he knows about running an offense from Martz, so maybe they just did a piss-poor job of keeping Campbell fresh and ready to step in.

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Or it's because those teams are built well enough or have a system that the player can handle. Mike McCarthy isn't suddenly gonna become a sh1tty playcaller because Flynn is in, and it's not like that tea wasn't loaded. Plus the backups in Houston weren't playing well, but the defense/run game was good enough to keep winning in spite of them. In Jason Campbell's case he faced the same issue Cutler did in that the line is pretty mediocre, and really Brandon Marshall is the only top receiver on that team. The other guys are "good" with the right guy throwing them the ball.
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Not to mention Campell started against the Texans and 49ers, as both teams just shat on the Bears O-line.

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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Usually when you have too much of a good thing, you're lacking in other areas. Like running gamesherman-tank1

We have a running game. We just don't use it.

How about an o-line? Or maybe some linebackers?

AJ Hawk and Clay Matthews aren't good enough? I honestly believe the problem with the defense is the DC.
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#107 Bobbles
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AJ Hawk is a mediocre POS.
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#108 deactivated-5fc147aeeb0aa
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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"] We have a running game. We just don't use it.The-Apostle

How about an o-line? Or maybe some linebackers?

AJ Hawk and Clay Matthews aren't good enough? I honestly believe the problem with the defense is the DC.

I'm talking depth.

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#109 DaJuicyMan
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Jason Campbell was awful this year.. Like Trent Edwards bad.

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#110 CJL13
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Giants cut Ahmad Bradshaw. The move wasn't entirely unexpected but it's still shocking. He made have had plenty of injury issues but the guy was a warrior on the field, hope another team gives him a shot.

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Pssst, Packers...

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Or it's because those teams are built well enough or have a system that the player can handle. Mike McCarthy isn't suddenly gonna become a sh1tty playcaller because Flynn is in, and it's not like that tea wasn't loaded. Plus the backups in Houston weren't playing well, but the defense/run game was good enough to keep winning in spite of them. In Jason Campbell's case he faced the same issue Cutler did in that the line is pretty mediocre, and really Brandon Marshall is the only top receiver on that team. The other guys are "good" with the right guy throwing them the ball.jg4xchamp

Quite true, but they paid Campbell good money for a backup specifically so that we at least had a chance of winning games with him behind center, watching his games I never thought we had a chance.  Funny thing is I think Marshall's numbers actually dropped when Campbell was playing, pretty sure Bennet's numbers went up.  I could be wrong, I just remember he seemed to be spreading the ball around more than Cutler.  No argument with the playcalling, though, Tice is worse than Garrett.

Not to mention Campell started against the Texans and 49ers, as both teams just shat on the Bears O-line.

sherman-tank1

Yeah, but I mean he really didn't do anything.  When Hanie played the Packers in the playoffs, for example, he put together some decent drives and made us feel like we had a chance of winning, Campbell had maybe one drive in each of those games.  THat's fine, but we paid Campbell more than Hanie and he was supposed to be an upgrade.

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It's too bad for Campbell, he's the prototypical QB. Size, arm strength, decent mobility. It looked like he finally started to put it together in Oakland before his injury. But now he's old and no longer starting material.
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[QUOTE="NightStalkerBX"]

Giants cut Ahmad Bradshaw. The move wasn't entirely unexpected but it's still shocking. He made have had plenty of injury issues but the guy was a warrior on the field, hope another team gives him a shot.

CJL13

Pssst, Packers...

*Watches in horror as the Packers sign Bradshaw only for him to get a season-ending injury in week 1-3*
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#114 CJL13
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[QUOTE="CJL13"]

[QUOTE="NightStalkerBX"]

Giants cut Ahmad Bradshaw. The move wasn't entirely unexpected but it's still shocking. He made have had plenty of injury issues but the guy was a warrior on the field, hope another team gives him a shot.

The-Apostle

Pssst, Packers...

*Watches in horror as the Packers sign Bradshaw only for him to get a season-ending injury in week 1-3*

Starting Packers RB gets injured early? That's never happened before...

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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="CJL13"]

Pssst, Packers...

CJL13

*Watches in horror as the Packers sign Bradshaw only for him to get a season-ending injury in week 1-3*

Starting Packers RB gets injured early? That's never happened before...

That's happened to them the last 3-4 seasons. It's why the Packers running game always takes so long to develop.
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[QUOTE="CJL13"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"] *Watches in horror as the Packers sign Bradshaw only for him to get a season-ending injury in week 1-3*The-Apostle

Starting Packers RB gets injured early? That's never happened before...

That's happened to them the last 3-4 seasons. It's why the Packers running game always takes so long to develop.

sarcasm
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="CJL13"]

Starting Packers RB gets injured early? That's never happened before...

jg4xchamp

That's happened to them the last 3-4 seasons. It's why the Packers running game always takes so long to develop.

sarcasm

Right... It's not like Benson didn't get hurt this past season, or James Starks, or their starters the last couple years before them or anything... >_> Packers average two-three new starters per year and have for the last 3-4 years. And I guess the Packers didn't bring their current starting RB off the street? I believe he was selling used cars when the season started until a couple RBs went down with injury.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="The-Apostle"] That's happened to them the last 3-4 seasons. It's why the Packers running game always takes so long to develop.The-Apostle

sarcasm

Right... It's not like Benson didn't get hurt this past season, or James Starks, or their starters the last couple years before them or anything... >_> Packers average two-three new starters per year and have for the last 3-4 years. And I guess the Packers didn't bring their current starting RB off the street? I believe he was selling used cars when the season started until a couple RBs went down with injury.

It could also be because.

1. Packers o-line is terrible

2. Packers RBs are mediocore at best

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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] sarcasmsherman-tank1

Right... It's not like Benson didn't get hurt this past season, or James Starks, or their starters the last couple years before them or anything... >_> Packers average two-three new starters per year and have for the last 3-4 years. And I guess the Packers didn't bring their current starting RB off the street? I believe he was selling used cars when the season started until a couple RBs went down with injury.

It could also be because.

1. Packers o-line is terrible

2. Packers RBs are mediocore at best

While I agree that the O-Line needs work, I think everyone needs to give our RBs a chance. They can produce 100+-yard games if they don't get hurt.

That is to say, I understand we can't pull out Adrian Peterson or Arian Foster-style games but we're decent.

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#122 The-Apostle
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And in other news, this is Bobbles.

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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] sarcasmBobbles

Right... It's not like Benson didn't get hurt this past season, or James Starks, or their starters the last couple years before them or anything... >_> Packers average two-three new starters per year and have for the last 3-4 years. And I guess the Packers didn't bring their current starting RB off the street? I believe he was selling used cars when the season started until a couple RBs went down with injury.

What I think of you.



Hell naw :lol:

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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"] Right... It's not like Benson didn't get hurt this past season, or James Starks, or their starters the last couple years before them or anything... >_> Packers average two-three new starters per year and have for the last 3-4 years. And I guess the Packers didn't bring their current starting RB off the street? I believe he was selling used cars when the season started until a couple RBs went down with injury.

The-Apostle

It could also be because.

1. Packers o-line is terrible

2. Packers RBs are mediocore at best

While I agree that the O-Line needs work, I think everyone needs to give our RBs a chance. They can produce 100+-yard games if they don't get hurt.

That is to say, I understand we can't pull out Adrian Peterson or Arian Foster-style games but we're decent.

Well, you can compete with the Lions for not the worst running game in the division.

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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"] Right... It's not like Benson didn't get hurt this past season, or James Starks, or their starters the last couple years before them or anything... >_> Packers average two-three new starters per year and have for the last 3-4 years. And I guess the Packers didn't bring their current starting RB off the street? I believe he was selling used cars when the season started until a couple RBs went down with injury.

The-Apostle

It could also be because.

1. Packers o-line is terrible

2. Packers RBs are mediocore at best

While I agree that the O-Line needs work, I think everyone needs to give our RBs a chance. They can produce 100+-yard games if they don't get hurt.

That is to say, I understand we can't pull out Adrian Peterson or Arian Foster-style games but we're decent.

We need to get better conditioners, no team has this many injuries this often unless something is wrong with how they train.

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Goodfellas is the sh*t.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

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Goodfellas is the sh*t.

Don't talk to chutef**k about good movies. He will bring up the expendables. 

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][ sarcasmThe-Apostle

Right... It's not like Benson didn't get hurt this past season, or James Starks, or their starters the last couple years before them or anything... >_> Packers average two-three new starters per year and have for the last 3-4 years. And I guess the Packers didn't bring their current starting RB off the street? I believe he was selling used cars when the season started until a couple RBs went down with injury.

No you stupid f*ck, I mean he was being saracastic. How the f*ck are you that dense.

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So. R. Ryan is the Saint's new DC. I hope this is good.
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][ sarcasmjg4xchamp

Right... It's not like Benson didn't get hurt this past season, or James Starks, or their starters the last couple years before them or anything... >_> Packers average two-three new starters per year and have for the last 3-4 years. And I guess the Packers didn't bring their current starting RB off the street? I believe he was selling used cars when the season started until a couple RBs went down with injury.

No you stupid f*ck, I mean he was being saracastic. How the f*ck are you that dense.

lmaooo

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[QUOTE="36Ounces"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

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Goodfellas is the sh*t.

Don't talk to chutef**k about good movies. He will bring up the expendables. 

Hey. Go **** yourself!

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Collector and Collection are good movies. Anyway.... *breaks the clock and speeds it to August 2013* ready for some football.
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][ sarcasmjg4xchamp

Right... It's not like Benson didn't get hurt this past season, or James Starks, or their starters the last couple years before them or anything... >_> Packers average two-three new starters per year and have for the last 3-4 years. And I guess the Packers didn't bring their current starting RB off the street? I believe he was selling used cars when the season started until a couple RBs went down with injury.

No you stupid f*ck, I mean he was being saracastic. How the f*ck are you that dense.

Probably because it's hard to read sarcasm on the Internet?
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][ sarcasmjg4xchamp

Right... It's not like Benson didn't get hurt this past season, or James Starks, or their starters the last couple years before them or anything... >_> Packers average two-three new starters per year and have for the last 3-4 years. And I guess the Packers didn't bring their current starting RB off the street? I believe he was selling used cars when the season started until a couple RBs went down with injury.

No you stupid f*ck, I mean he was being saracastic. How the f*ck are you that dense.

:lol:
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#136 Bobbles
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"] Right... It's not like Benson didn't get hurt this past season, or James Starks, or their starters the last couple years before them or anything... >_> Packers average two-three new starters per year and have for the last 3-4 years. And I guess the Packers didn't bring their current starting RB off the street? I believe he was selling used cars when the season started until a couple RBs went down with injury.

The-Apostle

No you stupid f*ck, I mean he was being saracastic. How the f*ck are you that dense.

Probably because it's hard to read sarcasm on the Internet?

It seems hard for you to read in general, dumb ass.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"] Right... It's not like Benson didn't get hurt this past season, or James Starks, or their starters the last couple years before them or anything... >_> Packers average two-three new starters per year and have for the last 3-4 years. And I guess the Packers didn't bring their current starting RB off the street? I believe he was selling used cars when the season started until a couple RBs went down with injury.

The-Apostle

No you stupid f*ck, I mean he was being saracastic. How the f*ck are you that dense.

Probably because it's hard to read sarcasm on the Internet?

Don't bother arguing with them. The more serious you take them to be, the more they will get a kick out of it.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"] Right... It's not like Benson didn't get hurt this past season, or James Starks, or their starters the last couple years before them or anything... >_> Packers average two-three new starters per year and have for the last 3-4 years. And I guess the Packers didn't bring their current starting RB off the street? I believe he was selling used cars when the season started until a couple RBs went down with injury.

The-Apostle

No you stupid f*ck, I mean he was being saracastic. How the f*ck are you that dense.

Probably because it's hard to read sarcasm on the Internet?

He told you "sarcasm" lol. No biggie...
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] No you stupid f*ck, I mean he was being saracastic. How the f*ck are you that dense.

sherman-tank1

Probably because it's hard to read sarcasm on the Internet?

Don't bother arguing with them. The more serious you take them to be, the more they will get a kick out of it.

Pretty much... At least I don't take Bubbles seriously. Unless he actually IS a jackass IRL. Then I pity him. >_>
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#140 The-Apostle
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Anquan Boldin set to retire if released:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8931984/anquan-boldin-says-retire-released-baltimore-ravens

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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"] Probably because it's hard to read sarcasm on the Internet?The-Apostle

Don't bother arguing with them. The more serious you take them to be, the more they will get a kick out of it.

Pretty much... At least I don't take Bubbles seriously. Unless he actually IS a jackass IRL. Then I pity him. >_>

I automatically pity him because he is a Cowboys fan.

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#142 The-Apostle
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]Don't bother arguing with them. The more serious you take them to be, the more they will get a kick out of it.

sherman-tank1

Pretty much... At least I don't take Bubbles seriously. Unless he actually IS a jackass IRL. Then I pity him. >_>

I automatically pity him because he is a Cowboys fan.

That too... :lol:
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Cary Williams will avoid discipline for pushing a ref in the Super Bowl.  What a ****ing waste Goodell and the rest of the goons in the NFL offices all are.

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Cary Williams will avoid discipline for pushing a ref in the Super Bowl.  What a ****ing waste Goodell and the rest of the goons in the NFL offices all are.

Boston_Boyy

Wow, what a **** joke. I've only seen a player push a ref like that once before. Such a joke.

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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"] Probably because it's hard to read sarcasm on the Internet?The-Apostle

Don't bother arguing with them. The more serious you take them to be, the more they will get a kick out of it.

Pretty much... At least I don't take Bubbles seriously. Unless he actually IS a jackass IRL. Then I pity him. >_>

I'm an assh*le in the real, I love it.
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#146 Bobbles
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]Don't bother arguing with them. The more serious you take them to be, the more they will get a kick out of it.

sherman-tank1

Pretty much... At least I don't take Bubbles seriously. Unless he actually IS a jackass IRL. Then I pity him. >_>

I automatically pity him because he is a Cowboys fan.

:lol: You stink dude. Brady=biggest choke artist, f*ck you.
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]Don't bother arguing with them. The more serious you take them to be, the more they will get a kick out of it.Bobbles
Pretty much... At least I don't take Bubbles seriously. Unless he actually IS a jackass IRL. Then I pity him. >_>

I'm an assh*le in the real, I love it.

Oh please, I bet your **** ass is a softy irl.

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#148 Bobbles
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] No you stupid f*ck, I mean he was being saracastic. How the f*ck are you that dense.

sherman-tank1

Probably because it's hard to read sarcasm on the Internet?

Don't bother arguing with them. The more serious you take them to be, the more they will get a kick out of it.

What argument dude? There isn't a debate regarding how moronic TheApostle is, it's pretty f*ckin obvious.

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#149 Bobbles
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[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="The-Apostle"] Pretty much... At least I don't take Bubbles seriously. Unless he actually IS a jackass IRL. Then I pity him. >_>Chutebox

I'm an assh*le in the real, I love it.

Oh please, I bet your **** ass is a softy irl.

I bet you lick wein in the real you f*ck.
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[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="The-Apostle"] Pretty much... At least I don't take Bubbles seriously. Unless he actually IS a jackass IRL. Then I pity him. >_>Chutebox

I'm an assh*le in the real, I love it.

Oh please, I bet your **** ass is a softy irl.

Nah dude he is an as***** in the real. I don't wanna let him near my family. He is a hateful f*** and I love it!Â