Matt Ryan and Flacco aren't elite though. Brees is stil elite for an example, even though his team is 5-7. Rodgers is still elite, as is Big Ben. Let me name 10 QBs I would take before Cam. Brady, Eli, Peyton, Ryan, Big Ben, RG3, Dalton, Brees, Stafford, and Cutler. Ryan, Dalton(who lose RoY to Cam), Jay Cutler(have you seen the bears play recently?), and Stafford before Cam? What is you basis for these guys. Everyone else has either won a title or is RGIII, those other guys aren't better then Cam though.Ryan is pretty good otherwise his team wouldn't be 11-2. He doesn't have much of a run game at all. Dalton, unlike Cam, has improved greatly from his rookie year to his sophomore. He is going to be a very good QB in a few seasons. Cutler isn't great but he plays pretty damn well with a trash o-line and trash recievers outside of Brandon Marshall. Have you seen the Bears record without him the last few seasons? Stafford isn't really good but neither is Cam. Right now I would take Stafford. However, if Cam continues to put numbers like that he did last week I will have no problem putting him over Cutler and Stafford.[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]
[QUOTE="Yusuke420"] Stafford has the opprotunity to be that, winning is a team thing. QB's get all the spot light but no one is going to say they wouldn't want Cam or MAtt on their teams unless they have a super QB like Brady or Manning. Are you going to say Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco are vastly superior to these two just because their teams happen to be winning? Carolina has blown 6 fourth quarter leads this season. That's not on Cam, it's no that swiss cheese defense that plays not to lose instead of to win in the fourth and ends up getting beat.
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