Why do democrats support racists?

https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/bidens-history-getting-away-racist-remarks

As a black man, im offended Biden is anywhere near any position of power.

A gentle reminder that the Republican party's current strategy and practice is to literally and explicitly take away voting power from black people.

If the question is "why do black people vote for Democrats even though Biden has said things that could be considered racist," the answer is, "because Republicans oppress black people."

Democrats like to pretend that requiring an I.D to vote "oppresses" black people from voting. It's funny because assuming black people can't obtain an I.D (like 99.9% of normal functioning adults) just because of their skin pigmentation they were born..with is racist in itself.

Never understood the argument, it's like saying someone is too dumb to get an I.D because of the color of their skin. It's so dumb.

@sheevpalpamemes: democrats have fully embraced racial identity politics for votes. Most leftists don't believe a person should be judged on their own merits, they reject individualism for collective groups. If you believe people should be judged on their personal character/actions and not see people for what skin color they were born with. (An ideology I fully support) you will be called bigoted for being "color blind".

They brainwashed themselves in thinking to not be racist, you must see skin color all the time as one of the main factors. It's backwards as shit.

Gerrymandering also takes away their voice, but please cry more over requiring an ID to vote while letting anyone and everyone freely get guns.

@LJS9502_basic: not to play dumb, but how is it known that race is the primary factor for gerrymandering? I keep hearing that gerrymandering is racist, or Republican are seen as racist because of it, but doesn't it make sense that gerrymandering is based off political tendencies not necessarily race?

Not saying it's good or isn't scummy, I just don't see the focus on race.

Lock this stupid thread.

To answer the title question, because the other side is exponentially more racist?

Going by your own standards, a large portion of the GOP should drive you FAR more mad. Including their current POTUS front-runner.

• Black voting rights under threat in GOP supermajority states, lawmakers say - The Washington Post
• How racial gerrymandering deprives black people of political power - The Washington Post
• The Republican Embrace of the ‘Great Replacement’ Theory (usnews.com)

It's a whole lot worse than just verbal gaffs from decades ago.

Heritage Foundation - Media Bias/Fact Check (mediabiasfactcheck.com)

Garbage.

Gerrymandering is done by both parties and race is not the primary factor but political leanings of the area.

Dumb Straw-man.

He's talking about racial gerrymandering, something you have 0 answer for. And that's not all,

Why Do Nonwhite Georgia Voters Have To Wait In Line For Hours? : NPR

The racial burden of voter list maintenance errors: Evidence from Wisconsin’s supplemental movers poll books | Science Advances

Citation Needed.

As opposed to being actually racists? Totally not backwards as shit.

Complaining about racism is more racist than actual racism? I mean your "team" literally contains the KKK and Neo-Nazis, whether you like it or not they are right wing groups. Most anti-minority hate groups are found in conservative counties. Voter suppression against minorities comes from one party. The great replacement theory becoming mainstream among the right rather than just Stormfront or 4Chan is insanity.

This isn't rocket science.

Biden has been in government for damn near 40 years and has a garbage history of saying racist shit in his career.

Random verbal gaffs from decades ago vs.

• Black voting rights under threat in GOP supermajority states, lawmakers say - The Washington Post
• How racial gerrymandering deprives black people of political power - The Washington Post
• The Republican Embrace of the ‘Great Replacement’ Theory (usnews.com)
• Georgia GOP Seeks to End Sunday Voting, Popular Day With Black Voters (businessinsider.com)
• Ku Klux Klan newspaper declares support for Trump | Reuters

• The Secret Files of the Master of Modern Republican Gerrymandering | The New Yorker

This is a wash. And please don't go 40 years back, you're just giving me more fuel:

Exclusive: Lee Atwater’s Infamous 1981 Interview on the Southern Strategy | The Nation

You start out in 1954 by saying, “n*, n*, n*.” By 1968 you can’t say “n*”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N*, n*.”

OOF!

Heck no, I'll bring up their racially based oppression every chance they give me.

Make more of these threads, conservatives. Give me more opportunities to remind everyone that Republicans limit minority voting power as an explicit strategy.

guessing economic factors like income / home values / renter vs. owner are used as proxies for race.

You actually need an ID to buy a gun.

Actually, no. They used straight up racial data.

Or to buy a pack of smokes or a beer.

But it's "racist" to require I.D to vote lol

oof. well, i can totally see how this and "biden says dumb shit" are totally equivalent.

Holy shit they are running with this straw-man. Even though we told them we aren't talking about this.

Sarge why did you skip all my links?

@mattbbpl: looking at your article, while race was listed in the data used to gerrymander it still doesn't prove that the action was racist, just that it benefited Republicans.

What else would need to be added to, "intentionally suppressed the voting power of racial minorities because they overwhelmingly choose to vote for another party," for it to become racist in your view?

I can't speak for everyone but Democrats treat blacks as if they're infants. No Sunday voting, no drivers license? Ohhh no! The straw grasping here is pathetic.

@mattbbpl: The only problem is that there don’t seem to be many conservatives here anymore. Every thread turns into Steve-O deflecting into what he thinks are gotchas, or SargentD and silentchief just quoting Newsmax, OAN, or some TikTok video. 😂

@mattbbpl: I think the reason for the action would need to be racially driven (a detriment to one race and beneficial to another race) in order for it to be racist. To me it just looks like a scummy political strategy (like one side labeling the other as racist using flimsy reasoning).

That's exactly what it is.

Gerrymandering isn't new, Democrats and Republicans do it.

Wait, so suppressing the political power of a race isn't racist? How is that not detrimental to one race and beneficial to another? You know that's how laws and policies get enacted, right?

I challenge you to find one post I've made that's a link to NewsMax, OAN, or Tik Tok.

Just one time, find one single time I've linked to any of the 3.

You live in a fantasy land in your own mind, where all the lies you tell yourself are truths.

@mattbbpl: but the only thing proven is that the gerrymandering is targeting political tendencies, not race. It is hurting Democrats and benefiting Republicans. The fact that a minority group is largely Democratic could be coincidental. I cannot tell if the district lines would be drawn differently if they did not have race in their data.

To a sharp point they are treated as if they are unable to accomplish much, if anything w/o democratic intervention.

To another point though, politicians are schmucks. D or R, it doesn't matter. You are a vote and nothing more than a vote to remain in power.

@OmegaBlueUp: Read the link again. It explicitly targets minorities by racial demographic data.

They suppress minority voting power explicitly because they're minorities.

Because the alternative is to vote for the other party/side.

Almost every political question that begins with 'why do x vote for y' can be answered that way. Since most people already know that, the obvious answer to this question is: 'Your trolling skills are weak'.

This thread is terrible and low effort.

Probably suspended for making crap topics 😋

Yup.

We have a bunch of moderates (sorry but "lefists" and democrats are pretty much moderate by US standards for the most part, and somewhat conservative by international standards)...

...we have one or two conservatives that, as you said, deflect; and just can't admit the people they vote for are pure shit...

...and then we have a good amount of far-right folks that are either insane or just want to own the libs so bad they've lost all common sense.

It's a shame, really; my best friend is a conservative. I can get along with conservatives; we might disagree, but we still want what is best for the country and can be respectful. But these far-right crazies want to just destroy one of the best democracies that has ever existed, and I can't tolerate that.

@zaryia: so you answered with whataboutism and a link saying the site i linked was bias, but doesn’t say I’m wrong?

Please be satire.

your correct.

i watch a conservative friend loss it and...

right before he took his own life.

he posted am a white nationalist now on twitter

then did a death threat so bad that parler banned him.

it also did not help he wrote (at the time i warned him not to trust the site)

for a Russian mis info site. that last 2 years turn in dark stuff so bad tos of this site would not let me even say it.

@OmegaBlueUp: dude, please. The whole point of gerrymandering on the right is to prevent minorities from voting. Just one example.

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/federal-court-rules-south-carolinas-congressional-map-gerrymandered

@tjandmia: Wow, today is the most I looked into gerrymandering. I never looked into it that much. I still can't see how it can be proven to be race driven and not partisanship. The court case you linked ruled that it was race based but didn't explain how.

I'm not saying the ruling was bad, as it did sound like scummy gerrymandering, but when one race is so overwhelmingly Democratic I find it hard to differentiate correlation and causation. Perhaps there are racist politicians that so happens to benefit politically by suppressing the race they are against, but I just find it more likely that the majority of gerrymandering is simply to suppress the political opposition.

Perhaps I'm being naive, it's just I haven't really noticed racist acts in my life so these types of accusations don't make sense to me.

Even though that is an explicit example of Republicans trying to stop black people from voting, Mattbbpl never brought it up. You brought it up because you know that it's one of the ways it's being done, even if you refuse to accept it.

@OmegaBlueUp: It’s racial and partisan. Pennsylvania had a republicans Governor about 15 years ago, Tom Corbett, who is on video complaining that too many minorities in Philadelphia were voting. It is both racial and partisan.

It is Democrat policies that keep minorities from bettering their lives.

That's because you've failed to read a single thing I've posted.

What I've linked to and referenced, several times, is known as The Hofeller Files. The national party level gerrymandering guru died, his daughter inherited his GBs worth of gerrymandering data, and released it.

It had information detailing how they gerrymander, why they gerrymander, and the data they use to suppress vote as.

Race. They used peoples' race to figure out who to suppress because they don't like the way they vote.

Tell us how, Jim

So when democrats gerrymander what race are they attacking?

Identity politics are the worst.

I guess nobody cares about 4 decades of racist behavior and legislation because there is a D next to Biden’s name.

I'm glad you ask! We don't have documentation showing that they use racial data when gerrymandering. No court verdicts, either.

But we have LOTS of both regarding Republicans.

Since gerrymandering is based on an areas political slant, a comparison would be when Democrats try to remove rural areas from certain districts for an advantage.

If I wanted to think like a race hustling democrat. You could say they are trying to disadvantage whites since they make up a large portion of rural areas.

That's the same argument Democrats use for Republicans re drawing lines to cut urban areas out of certain districts.

Neither party is strictly doing it based on race but political leanings of the area.

But that's not going to stop them from arguing racism. Everything is about race to Democrats.

Republicans are. They've said so, we have their own documents proving it.

Not based on party affiliation. Based on race. They're racists who use racist tactics to suppress the voting power of minority races.

@mattbbpl: if the areas being drawn voted republican they wouldn't want them drawn out of the district, same goes for Democrats wanting to draw lines where voters are in their favor. That's the nature of gerrymandering.

The fact that rural whites tend to be on the right and urban minorities tend to be on the left is just part of it. Both sides dont care what race their voters are if they vote for their preferred party.

"We only oppress minorities because they won't do what we tell them to," is a hell of a rationalization.

It's like saying Democrats are oppressing the rural white vote by trying to draw rural areas out of districts for advantage. It's a stupid argument.

The argument only works for people who see everything through a race lense. Unfortunately everything is about race to the modern day democrat/leftist.