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#1 deactivated-57d307c5efcda
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So your not gettinga a PS4 because they are giving you options... which you will more than likely be able to turn off in the options/settings menu. You could literally just unplug the thing and not worry about it at all lol

Your mad because they will be offering a cloud service to extend PS1,PS2 and PS3 games on. You DON'T have to subscribe, but for some of us, buying a years subscription will be cheaper than trying to go buy games like Tales of Destiny off Ebay (assuming they have pretty much all old titles on the service). And it's not backwards compatible because of the completely different CPU architecture. Why can't you people realize this. And if they shove a Cell CPU and a NVIDIA gpu in the PS4 it will only crank up the price, and then you will complain that it's too expensive. Kinda like how they did the PS3, it litteraly had the PS2 CPU and GPU in it to make it backwards compatable. 

Also no games, wow lol, really? You have got to be joking, Is Ni No Kuni a shooter? Is tales of Xillia/Graces F shooters? is Infamous a shooter? Uncharted went where tomb raider hadn't and now has tomb raider following in it's footsteps? God of War is a shooter? The only freaking shooters sony owns is resistance and killzone. Everything else is RPG, Action/Adventure, Hack n' Slash. The closest to a shooter is Uncharted, but at most it would be considered a third person shooter, but is more action/adventure style. and as for too difficult... maybe play on easy mode? And don't ever try Dark Souls or even Put Dragon Age Origins on Nightmare difficulty. It will probobly resault in a very broken controller and possibly a broken TV or wall. 

I think I smell a troll... or... an xbot :P

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#2 arcangelgold
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I am very unimpressed with Playstation 4 and I have decided to not to purchase it unless all of the following are changed, and they likely will not be changed but here is why I will not buy it and don't think most people should buy it: 1) The cloud service is just another scheme to drain money from players who already bought games once before. This is sheer money grubbing! The cloud is likely to cost money, probably a subscription, Even after millions of gamers said they wouldn't buy it if it wasn't backwards compatible, they still ignored the gamers. Plus with the exception of people with the fastets internet connections customers will probably not have enough bandwidth or speed to run the cloud without interruption. 2) Almost all of the games on PS3 were no good, too difficult, not fun, no games for kids, and they ruined franchise after franchise with their first person shooter OBSESSION. 3) Constant updates, many of which should have been optional, many of which made the Playstation 3's system worse, updates, upon updates, upon update and most of them forced onto us. Along with those updates came bad faith EULA's that give Sony ALL of the rights and the players NONE. So even if Sony commits a tort against you they claim you waive those rights to play your games on their netwrok. Sorry but no. These are all one-sided bad faith contracts that you are forced to ok under duress. 4) Too much spying on MY personal business. Limits on how many active Playstations I can have?!!! They have no right to even know how many I have let alone tell me how many I can have! I have four kids and three Playstations and when I pay for a game and dlc I expect my entire family to be able to use it for no additional cost and how dare they use viruses to spy on my property!!! It's not ok and gamers who grew up in the 80's understand the value of PRIVACY. They are trying to steal your privacy and get you used to them spying on you and it's NOT ok! They want you to give up your property rights and privacy in case some hacker steals from them but that won't even stop the hackers will it? Nope. 5) Games may start self downloading on what it thinks my preferences are? Um.. excuse me but no it's just another way to spam me! I don't want my hard drive bogged down with games I didn't ask for and it's none of the CLOUD's business what games I play. I guarantee it will select games I do not want. No thanks! 6) Facebook. If some people want a total life link to facebook then by all means go for it, however if it's going to be forced onto us (which is unconfirmed at this time) then NO WAYYYYYY! I'm not giving out my real name and my kids' real names to ANYONE on PSN. 7) Sign up is too complicated and involved! I want all my kids to be able to play games and watch my netflix and I should get to decide if they are old enough not Sony and not game companies and not the government!!!! I have to make fake birth dates so my kids can play with their Uncle, or friends and that's flat out ridiculous!!!! There is no reason why we cannot have sub accounts where the kids can have their own separate trophies and game files that do not require any age specification!!!! My four yo has to log into my oldest son's account to watch netflix, since I use mine in the other room!!! DUH they need to grow up and get over themselves already and get out of my business!! It shouldn't even require an email address to sing up to the network. I am also warning people that the next move is to require cell phone numbers which I REFUSE to give to anyone or any company on the net. They WILL sell your info and will send you texts and anyone without a phone will not be able to sign up! I am sick of the sign up process being like a CIA interrogation. Plus using cell numbers as verification is a serious security risk. If anyone knows your number they can easily hack your account in minutes and reset all your passwords and then steal your games and access your credit card! Please people don't give companies your numbers! So there are the reasons I refuse to buy Playstation 4.
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#3 MethodManFTW
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I see you have used your blog before, so you obviously know what it is for..
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#4 MarcRecon
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Sorry dude, I tried to read that MASSIVE blog of yours but I got a ADD.:|

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#5 Vari3ty
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Fine, then don't get one.

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#6 Encognito_Mr_BC
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Fine, then don't get one.

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couldn't have said it better myself
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#7 BlackDiamond81
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Do you do much gaming other than on PS3??? What you said seems to loosely apply to multiple consoles and platforms not just PS3. First person shooter obsession??? Really as opposed to X-Box being the king of FPS?? You must have a limited knowledge on things is what I am taking from this rant.
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#8 virtualfighter1
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Wow look like it turn out to be a bad concpet for now.

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#9 nightshade869
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I see you have used your blog before, so you obviously know what it is for..MethodManFTW
Agreed, plus his post is ridiculous and sounds like a crying baby. It's as if he/she doesn't realize options in settings exist to turn stuff off that he/she doesn't want. It is also very apparent there is complete ignorance on the part of system architecture differences b/n 3 &4. And to say there were no good games....face palm.
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#10 wazzap76
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I stopped reading after you said their games were too difficult if you honestly think that maybe you shouldn't be playing video games.

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#11 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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Didn't read. Baww somewhere else.
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Didn't read. Baww somewhere else.darkspineslayer
this...wow for a second there i thought i was in sw based on all the thread responses lol
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#14 Lucky_Krystal
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There's an unecessary amount of crying, hyperbole, and ASSumptions in your post TC...

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#15 JustPlainLucas
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Ok... get a Wii U then, because the next Xbox won't be any better.
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#16 GTR12
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Can I talk to the 4 year old? he seems more mature.

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#17 Serial_Killa
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 :lol:

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#18 yourmate
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I stopped reading after you said their games were too difficult if you honestly think that maybe you shouldn't be playing video games.

wazzap76

 

lol exact same point I stopped

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#19 dalger21
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The fact that you don't know the correct number after 5 basically makes this thread stained. Ok, not really but given the fact that you proclaim that the games on the PS3 were "too difficult" basically ruined whatever little credibility you had. Simply put, either buy it or don't. Won't matter much either way.
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#20 sagejonathan
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I don't think your points were valid. Rather, they were minor in my opinion and shouldn't be deciding factors in getting the PS4. And the point about video games being too difficult and having no kids games.... I'm not sure you even know what your talking about anymore. No offense.
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#21 shads20
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i gave up reading after number 2

personally had more fun watching that video from the other guy

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#22 CursedChamp
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If you do not want a PS4 do not get one, I am going to get the PS4 first and it may be the only console that I buy from the next gen. On a side note this thread would of made a better blog.
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#23 slaves
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TC after reading your wall of text I decided to go to your blog page and read your blogs, I'm a glutton for punishment. I'm I wrong or did you write that Alice: Maddness Returns is to hard and you also compare it to FPS games????? WTF did you really play the game? Do you even really play games?

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#24 Rattlesnake_8
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If you hated EVERY game on the PS3 then obviously you won't be getting a PS4.. in fact you should probably quit gaming altogether.
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#25 CommanderShiro
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You lost me at #2

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#26 Dogswithguns
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Okay... Me, I can't wait, I want my PS4 now.
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[QUOTE="arcangelgold"]I am very unimpressed with Playstation 4 and I have decided to not to purchase it unless all of the following are changed, and they likely will not be changed but here is why I will not buy it and don't think most people should buy it: 1) The cloud service is just another scheme to drain money from players who already bought games once before. This is sheer money grubbing! The cloud is likely to cost money, probably a subscription, Even after millions of gamers said they wouldn't buy it if it wasn't backwards compatible, they still ignored the gamers. Plus with the exception of people with the fastets internet connections customers will probably not have enough bandwidth or speed to run the cloud without interruption. 2) Almost all of the games on PS3 were no good, too difficult, not fun, no games for kids, and they ruined franchise after franchise with their first person shooter OBSESSION. 3) Constant updates, many of which should have been optional, many of which made the Playstation 3's system worse, updates, upon updates, upon update and most of them forced onto us. Along with those updates came bad faith EULA's that give Sony ALL of the rights and the players NONE. So even if Sony commits a tort against you they claim you waive those rights to play your games on their netwrok. Sorry but no. These are all one-sided bad faith contracts that you are forced to ok under duress. 4) Too much spying on MY personal business. Limits on how many active Playstations I can have?!!! They have no right to even know how many I have let alone tell me how many I can have! I have four kids and three Playstations and when I pay for a game and dlc I expect my entire family to be able to use it for no additional cost and how dare they use viruses to spy on my property!!! It's not ok and gamers who grew up in the 80's understand the value of PRIVACY. They are trying to steal your privacy and get you used to them spying on you and it's NOT ok! They want you to give up your property rights and privacy in case some hacker steals from them but that won't even stop the hackers will it? Nope. 5) Games may start self downloading on what it thinks my preferences are? Um.. excuse me but no it's just another way to spam me! I don't want my hard drive bogged down with games I didn't ask for and it's none of the CLOUD's business what games I play. I guarantee it will select games I do not want. No thanks! 6) Facebook. If some people want a total life link to facebook then by all means go for it, however if it's going to be forced onto us (which is unconfirmed at this time) then NO WAYYYYYY! I'm not giving out my real name and my kids' real names to ANYONE on PSN. 7) Sign up is too complicated and involved! I want all my kids to be able to play games and watch my netflix and I should get to decide if they are old enough not Sony and not game companies and not the government!!!! I have to make fake birth dates so my kids can play with their Uncle, or friends and that's flat out ridiculous!!!! There is no reason why we cannot have sub accounts where the kids can have their own separate trophies and game files that do not require any age specification!!!! My four yo has to log into my oldest son's account to watch netflix, since I use mine in the other room!!! DUH they need to grow up and get over themselves already and get out of my business!! It shouldn't even require an email address to sing up to the network. I am also warning people that the next move is to require cell phone numbers which I REFUSE to give to anyone or any company on the net. They WILL sell your info and will send you texts and anyone without a phone will not be able to sign up! I am sick of the sign up process being like a CIA interrogation. Plus using cell numbers as verification is a serious security risk. If anyone knows your number they can easily hack your account in minutes and reset all your passwords and then steal your games and access your credit card! Please people don't give companies your numbers! So there are the reasons I refuse to buy Playstation 4.

 Sir, I understand you're upset, but what was it really necessary to subject your cat to your lunacy as well?
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#28 Nengo_Flow
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You lost me at #2

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#29 XereoWarrior
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A lot of the PS4 features you've mentioned already exist on the PS3.
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#30 SoNin360
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1. You don't have to use it then. Keep your Playstation 3 and play Playstation 3 games on your Playstation 3. 2. You're saying there's NO good games on the PS3? You must really hate games then. The PS3 has arguably the best exclusives overall, and there's much more than shooters out there, if you actually bother to look. 3. I see nothing wrong with their updates, I'm not sure what you're going on about here. 4. Wha? 5. This will probably be optional, everything you mentioned here. 6. Lol, there's no 6. 7. I didn't feel like reading all that, but it seems like incoherent nonsense that's not really an actual issue. Have nice day! :D
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#31 Kravyn81
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6. Lol, there's no 6.SoNin360
Yeah, there is. It's clumped together with #5. I actually read all that lunatic ranting which is why I replied the way I did.
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#32 haze_blaze
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Who cares about your soapbox? Buying mine on day one!
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#33 naju890_963
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This thread is plain stupid.

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#34 whiskeystrike
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Games are too difficult? If anything they're a bit too easy

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#35 arcangelgold
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I see you have used your blog before, so you obviously know what it is for..MethodManFTW
Whether I use my blog is none of your business.
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#36 arcangelgold
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Fine, then don't get one.

Vari3ty
That's what I just said and I wanted people to have the opportunity to know why. It's good to have alternative views on forums so others can make their own decision and not just based off of one popular idea.
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#37 arcangelgold
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Do you do much gaming other than on PS3??? What you said seems to loosely apply to multiple consoles and platforms not just PS3. First person shooter obsession??? Really as opposed to X-Box being the king of FPS?? You must have a limited knowledge on things is what I am taking from this rant.BlackDiamond81
No I have very wide knowledge of the conspiracy between all game consoles to spy on their customers, and use viruses to violate and convert the consumers consoles and digital property. I know the FPSs are rampant on all systems except perhaps Wii, however my post is not about those consoles it's about the PS4.
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#38 arcangelgold
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[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"]I see you have used your blog before, so you obviously know what it is for..nightshade869
Agreed, plus his post is ridiculous and sounds like a crying baby. It's as if he/she doesn't realize options in settings exist to turn stuff off that he/she doesn't want. It is also very apparent there is complete ignorance on the part of system architecture differences b/n 3 &4. And to say there were no good games....face palm.

The only one who sounds ridiculous is you. First off I am not a he I am a girl. Second just because you don't like other people voicing concerns over serious privacy risks, security risks, and property rights violations doesn't mean that other people don't care. This is a forum for everyone not just YOU. As far as crying LOL, oh please I am currently in progress of pushing for legislation in congress both in my state and all 50 to reign in these media developers. Yes and really there weren't hardly any good games on the PS4 most of them sucked and bombed in the ratings.
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#39 arcangelgold
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I stopped reading after you said their games were too difficult if you honestly think that maybe you shouldn't be playing video games.

wazzap76
Frankly I think millions of other gamers are sick and tired of reading and hearing all the uber hackers and cheaters claim all the games are way too easy. Games being too difficult for kids to play and even adults to enjoy have been plaguing the system since it came and there have been ooodles of complaints on this issue. Sorry but honest players who don't hack to get everything find it pretty hard to defeat many of the games.
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#40 arcangelgold
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So your not gettinga a PS4 because they are giving you options... which you will more than likely be able to turn off in the options/settings menu. You could literally just unplug the thing and not worry about it at all lol

Your mad because they will be offering a cloud service to extend PS1,PS2 and PS3 games on. You DON'T have to subscribe, but for some of us, buying a years subscription will be cheaper than trying to go buy games like Tales of Destiny off Ebay (assuming they have pretty much all old titles on the service). And it's not backwards compatible because of the completely different CPU architecture. Why can't you people realize this. And if they shove a Cell CPU and a NVIDIA gpu in the PS4 it will only crank up the price, and then you will complain that it's too expensive. Kinda like how they did the PS3, it litteraly had the PS2 CPU and GPU in it to make it backwards compatable. 

Also no games, wow lol, really? You have got to be joking, Is Ni No Kuni a shooter? Is tales of Xillia/Graces F shooters? is Infamous a shooter? Uncharted went where tomb raider hadn't and now has tomb raider following in it's footsteps? God of War is a shooter? The only freaking shooters sony owns is resistance and killzone. Everything else is RPG, Action/Adventure, Hack n' Slash. The closest to a shooter is Uncharted, but at most it would be considered a third person shooter, but is more action/adventure style. and as for too difficult... maybe play on easy mode? And don't ever try Dark Souls or even Put Dragon Age Origins on Nightmare difficulty. It will probobly resault in a very broken controller and possibly a broken TV or wall. 

I think I smell a troll... or... an xbot :P

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No most of these will NOT be optional, and I am yes mad they purposely make the cloud to make consumer re-buy games they already paid for. Yes most of the games sucked, they were boring, badly made, cheap graphics, stupid story-line, all most all of them were copycats of each other. FPS, FPS, FPS, FPS. Ack! Enough already. Most of them were just big CGI movies too, and barely any game play. I hated almost all of the sequels that came out on PS4.
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#41 lilnazar
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Idk, i have to agree that PS4 didn't show any good games atm yet. And im probably not getting a PS4, unless a new sequel from a franchise i love comes to PS4, then i may buy it.  But so far, PS4 isn't that impressive for me.

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#42 arcangelgold
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Didn't read. Baww somewhere else.darkspineslayer
Sorry but you're so ridiculous. You say you didn't read it and then just write a comment about how you didn't read just for attention. It's obvious these corporations have trained young boys to buy into their anti-private property anti-privacy scams.
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#43 arcangelgold
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There's an unecessary amount of crying, hyperbole, and ASSumptions in your post TC...

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Grow up child. Please don't come into adult forums posts if you can't be adult enough to participate or write anything constructive. I'm sorry but it's really pathetic to see forums turned into trolling lots for bored kids with nothing better to do that be rude and insult everyone they encounter online. It's very ugly and sad to see.
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#44 arcangelgold
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Ok... get a Wii U then, because the next Xbox won't be any better.JustPlainLucas
I will get whatever console I want and not based on you "suggesting" rudely that I do.
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#45 arcangelgold
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Sorry dude, I tried to read that MASSIVE blog of yours but I got a ADD.:|

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Not surprising since kids now-a days can't read.
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#46 arcangelgold
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Can I talk to the 4 year old? he seems more mature.

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No you may not, and frankly I am very disgusted at how sick and disrespectful your generation is. I'd have had my ass kicked for ever talking to anyone online or in person with this kind of disrespect and frankly most of you guys shouldn't even be allowed to be online.
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#47 arcangelgold
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[QUOTE="wazzap76"]

I stopped reading after you said their games were too difficult if you honestly think that maybe you shouldn't be playing video games.

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lol exact same point I stopped

So what? Who cares? If you guys want to grow up with no rights or privacy then don't be mad when they make it illegal for you to play your games without giving them your fingerprint in the future. I promise you won't be laughing then.
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#48 slaves
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TC can i ask what kind of games do you like? I've looked at your trophy card and read your blogs. I think you're just buying the wrong games.

Can I suggest Little Big Planet 1 & 2, Start the Party 1 & 2 and Skylanders 1 & 2 for your kids and Telltales The Walking Dead, Mass Effect, Journey and the Unfinished Swan for you.

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#49 arcangelgold
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I don't think your points were valid. Rather, they were minor in my opinion and shouldn't be deciding factors in getting the PS4. And the point about video games being too difficult and having no kids games.... I'm not sure you even know what your talking about anymore. No offense. sagejonathan
Acually I do, there are almost no games appropriate for kids. Even the ones made for kids are too complicated for the kids to play. Second privacy rights violations, property rights violations, and being spied on are NOT minor issues. I don't expect your generation to understand since they are teaching you you have no privacy, no property an that spying is ok.
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#50 arcangelgold
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i gave up reading after number 2

personally had more fun watching that video from the other guy

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This post is not supposed to be fun, grow up already. It's supposed to show an alternate point of view.