After Gamescom, I feel better about the Vita down the road knowing that there will actually be some really good games coming out for it. How do you guys feel about the Vita down the road?
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Well love for the system aside, it doesn't look that good.
A game like BlackOps isn't going to save it.
I just wish Sony would get their act together - market it better, bring down the price of the memory cards and put out more games - any games - geez, I'd even take solitaire at this point.
[QUOTE="Heirren"]It's not looking good, unfortunately.flowersjfDo you mind explaining? I love reading other people's opinions. Sony is simply not putting any money behind its marketing. We know about it because we like games and are on this site, but to the more average consumer, the device is invisible. I really couldn't believe how under the radar the launch was. At least with psp Sony had some hype for the launch. With Vita, the launch reminds me of Sonys attempt to "re-support" the psp with the ads featuring the young teen--and that didn't last long. To me the Vita feels like a device which barely even made it to market. Conceptually it has potential, but I can just picture the higher ups saying, "fine, launch the Vita. Here's $80,000 to cover the marketing."
[QUOTE="flowersjf"][QUOTE="Heirren"]It's not looking good, unfortunately.HeirrenDo you mind explaining? I love reading other people's opinions. Sony is simply not putting any money behind its marketing. We know about it because we like games and are on this site, but to the more average consumer, the device is invisible. I really couldn't believe how under the radar the launch was. At least with psp Sony had some hype for the launch. With Vita, the launch reminds me of Sonys attempt to "re-support" the psp with the ads featuring the young teen--and that didn't last long. To me the Vita feels like a device which barely even made it to market. Conceptually it has potential, but I can just picture the higher ups saying, "fine, launch the Vita. Here's $80,000 to cover the marketing." Those are all excellent points!!! But I personally think the Vita has nowhere to go but up. I wish the marketing for the Vita could have been better but I'm sure it'll be okay in the long run imo.
There are some very exciting titles coming out this Fall, however, I'm certain it's going to end up with the PSP's localization issues.
Tons of Japanese PSP titles never made it to Western shores. It's nice that the system isn't region locked, but that's not much of a substitute for games being translated into English.
what's coming up?
a bunch of console ports or console gimped versions..
the only new ip...is tearaway and that might sell bad because of the small install base...
but yes vita finally has a good amount of games coming....lets see if people think they are worth 300 dollars.
Sony is simply not putting any money behind its marketing. We know about it because we like games and are on this site, but to the more average consumer, the device is invisible. I really couldn't believe how under the radar the launch was. At least with psp Sony had some hype for the launch. With Vita, the launch reminds me of Sonys attempt to "re-support" the psp with the ads featuring the young teen--and that didn't last long. To me the Vita feels like a device which barely even made it to market. Conceptually it has potential, but I can just picture the higher ups saying, "fine, launch the Vita. Here's $80,000 to cover the marketing."Heirren
This is totally right and well very said. No exposure is equaling no sales for the vita. Whoever heads Sony's promotion dept. should be fired.
Of course they will rise. The question is whether they will rise enough to change the system's future, and objectively there is no reason to expect they will.I think when the holiday sales come out the Vita sales will rise.;)
VitaBz
marketing aside, most gamers seem gloomy about vita's future already. maybe many of them are spoiled by modern games and really don't know what they want anymore. i think a lot of it is due to the constantly more noticeable 'grey area' in gaming.
for the past half decade we divided games based on whether they were 'hardcore' or 'casual'. now most games are made very fast anymore and are more mainstream, and they've become social. the game industry isn't fully sure where it's going. neither are consumers. there are possibilities for new ideas, and possibilities for more money-making. eventually the idea that is most popular for the industry will succeed.
I'm optimistic about the Vita, I see its potential and what it could offer me as a gamer. Unfortunately, most people don't, or else they want something else. But it isn't too late for the Vita to find a way to prove its worth to the doubters.
I feel the same way. I think the Vita has potential as well and I'm sure it'll do fine it's just that it needs to be marketed more.marketing aside, most gamers seem gloomy about vita's future already. maybe many of them are spoiled by modern games and really don't know what they want anymore. i think a lot of it is due to the constantly more noticeable 'grey area' in gaming.
for the past half decade we divided games based on whether they were 'hardcore' or 'casual'. now most games are made very fast anymore and are more mainstream, and they've become social. the game industry isn't fully sure where it's going. neither are consumers. there are possibilities for new ideas, and possibilities for more money-making. eventually the idea that is most popular for the industry will succeed.
I'm optimistic about the Vita, I see its potential and what it could offer me as a gamer. Unfortunately, most people don't, or else they want something else. But it isn't too late for the Vita to find a way to prove its worth to the doubters.
Ovirew
As it stands right now, I feel pretty good about it. Already have more games than my PSP's collection that's already out or is coming out.
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At the moment, I don't think the Vita's future looks too good. Sony really needs to focus on giving it must-have games that aren't just console ports or lite versions of console games. In other words, give it exclusive and unique games that no one can get on consoles. I see some glimmers of hope, but for the most part, the future games for the Vita still look like watered down versions of games we've already played on consoles. Only time will tell just how well the Vita's gaming library does.
I really couldn't believe that most of my friends haven't even heard of the Vita when I told them about it. I don't think it appeals to the masses very much and therefore sales are likely going to continue to dwindle. MaddenBowler10Really? That's insane, but there hasn't been any Vita commercials on tv or anything so I guess I shouldn't be so surprised.
We need solid games to launch the system to a more well known place. Right now marketing has been pretty terrible and really there isn't any Triple A titles to boost want for the Vita. In Japan the release of Persona 4 the Golden has increased sales of the system well enough but in other countries we don't have something to the same effect. Assassins Creed will help but there needs to be a new IP that will catch the masses. That aside, while people I've met at work, (I work in retail) will often know of the Vita but they know very little about it. Sony needs to push it-- commericals, media, hell throw it in a movie or two to show people the Vita actually exists. They have this excellent piece of tech but don't flaunt it. Flaunt it Sony, flaunt that thing.
Sony is in for the long term with the PSvita. The economy is not the greatest. Sony has taken a hit because of this.
I personally feel that the PSvita will eventually have a great future. There are good games coming so the PSvita will improve it's lot in the marketplace. Sony seems to be intent on learning how to navigate a tough economy. Since they will have to be doing the same when the Playstation 4 launches. The worldwide economy doesn't seem headed for improvement anytime soon. Sony is learning from the PSvita launch and is intent on surviving the economic strom.
The future of the PSvita will improve it will just take time.
Sony is in for the long term with the PSvita. The economy is not the greatest. Sony has taken a hit because of this.
I personally feel that the PSvita will eventually have a great future. There are good games coming so the PSvita will improve it's lot in the marketplace. Sony seems to be intent on learning how to navigate a tough economy. Since they will have to be doing the same when the Playstation 4 launches. The worldwide economy doesn't seem headed for improvement anytime soon. Sony is learning from the PSvita launch and is intent on surviving the economic strom.
The future of the PSvita will improve it will just take time.
Megavideogamer
Best comment i've seen on the page so far!
Trouble is though that the PS4 is pretty much expected to be announced at E3 2013 and when that happens the third party publishers won't take another look on the Vita. Sony themselves have stated that one of the reasons the PSP "failed" was because they announced the PS3 in the same year they released the PSP, which resulted in third parties to only focus on the PS3. When the PS4 is announced this will happen again, with the Vita.danish-deathI don't really agree with this at all. Do you have any hard data on Sony giving a statement about this? I can't seem to find anything, even when I search for articles from 2005-2007. For one thing, the PSP didn't "fail", and it was actually a worldwide success, despite sales not approaching the DS's. Another point is that, in my opinion, the mobile and console spaces are very different. Certain developers are looking to make portable games, and if they have their eye on the Vita as a potential system, they're not going to just look at PS4 and say, "Oh, never mind. I'm going to make a game for PS4 instead." Not only does this make no sense from a business perspective, considering the huge cost increase developing for next-gen is going to be, but it's also a whole new hardware to familiarize themselves with, further increasing the time and money needed. I think that as PS4 approaches, we're going to see more and more small developers developing cross-buy games for PS3 and Vita, not a sudden influx of developers making PS4 games. Of course, EA, Activision, Ubisoft, and all the other big developers will be focusing their efforts on next-gen, but I think that we're going to be seeing cross-buy titles for years into the PS4's lifecycle.
I'm expecting three more years of support at the least. I feel with that I would get my money's worth (not saying that I'm unhappy with the system now)
With that said, so far so good on the consumer end. It's hard to feel worried about the system and its future when Sony was able to turn the PS3 around from its even worse start.
This is coming from a classic gamer so here goes...
There is "something" going on in the gaming industry where a cast of shadow is looming over it. Something unknown, all Publishers, Developers and Gamers are flustered and feeling absent minded the way things are moving forward into the next-gen.
Beginning with the 8-bit / 16-bit days when every kid had to save up their lunch or allowance money to buy that one game they wanted all year. If you were lucky your grandma or a relative would get you birthday presents that allowed for you to have a few games that year. You took time with them, enjoyed them, played the crap out of them. Even games that you thought were decent were played out until you wore the cartridges out. We appreciated these moments, like opening that box of Sega Genesis on Christmas morning with Streets of Rage 2.
Then we moved onto the 32-bit days when we started to transition ourselves away from Arcade hang-out spots to being around the house with a bunch of friends sitting around the TV playing Resident Evil, Mario Kart, etc etc. The same trend continued but very slowly we started to notice gamers being curious about upcoming games. As video game magazines and marketing became bigger, we all started to desire that next big game.
By the time we reached Dreamcast , Xbox and PS2 we all started to shift into wanting the next big thing before we even got a chance to enjoy what we already have. The industry as a whole started to become real greedy. We didn't appreciate the little things, we just wanted what's next.
When the PSP was released it was mayhem. I don't know if anyone remembers seeing late night News on every channel they were broadcasting long lines being formed in NYC just to get a hold of the first Playstation Portable System. It sold like gang-busters. I specifically remember taking off from work that day to be first on line at 6am, got a hold of the pre-order with Ridge Racer, Darkstalkers, Ape Escape & Wipeout. This moment felt the same as opening that box of Sega Genesis back during Christmas many many years ago.
The transition in which the 360 and ps3 continued forward started to get real chaotic. People wanted to know about games coming out a year later before even appreciating what was being launched with the console. Greedy-ass-Gamers. That's all I have to say. No appreciation what-so-ever.
When the PS-Vita's launch titles were announced majority of the people cried like babies. Lots of complaints about re-hashed titles and ports. I don't know about you but 6-7 years ago Gamers were crying about wanting JUST the very same games on a handheld system. Now that you got it, we've done nothing but complain about it.
So I guess what i'm trying to say is that we're at a stage in the industry that is confused. We seem to want all the new gadgets and at the same time we're so inclined to justify the purchases. Sony as a company is not going to go away anytime soon. The PS-Vita will not be going away anytime soon regardless of the price or regardless of whoever thinks there are a lack of games. Their marketing is not really useful if they don't have games that appeal to the wider-audience, but keep in mind that Sony is not oblivious, they understand who the handheld is being marketed towards. Bottom line is...enjoy what you have now, the future will eventually unfold.
The future that I see for the Vita is its going to go away pretty soon due to it not having any other games besides that silly Uncharted Gold Abnyss game and a portable version of the new Mortal Kombat game and release of 3 Marvel vs Capcom games.
That all the Vita was made for?
Those are all excellent points!!! But I personally think the Vita has nowhere to go but up. I wish the marketing for the Vita could have been better but I'm sure it'll be okay in the long run imo.flowersjf
No where to go but up when you are at the bottom, sure.
That doesnt mean that is a good place to be though. VITA is on life support, it is hanging on by a thread. I doubt portable ports of big-name console games are going to save it either.
It's a fantastic handheld, but it's going to struggle against the tsunami of smartphones and the 3DS to a lesser extent.
Don't forget Ragnarok Oddysey.what's coming up?
a bunch of console ports or console gimped versions..
the only new ip...is tearaway and that might sell bad because of the small install base...
but yes vita finally has a good amount of games coming....lets see if people think they are worth 300 dollars.
KBFloYd
The Vita needs more games, and it needs them to be great. Tearaway and Soul Sacrifice look awesome, but apart from those I can't think of any other upcoming game worth getting that isn't a port or a watered down console game. (Except maybe Dokuro... but to me it looks like a mix between Exit and Limbo, two games that disappointed me greatly)
I really want the Vita to succeed. I really want Sony to announce a bunch of amazing exclusives and for third party devs to jump on board eagerly. The PS3 had a pretty slow start and is now doing really well. The PSP too had an awkward growth period in its early days, but now has tons of great games. I can only expect the Vita to do the same.
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